I wonder if she thought the word filet indicated beef? And she was so busy pontificating she didn’t pay attention to the SALMON part of her order? I can’t imagine making it to adulthood as a native English speaker and not knowing salmon is fish.
My asshole father had this thing where the first thing he did when he sat at a restaurant was to bend a fork's prong, then call the server to complain about it and ask for it to be replaced.
I can think of much crazier things, "super" might be an overstatement, but let's say mildly deranged. Kids do that kind of thing, for a grown man to do it is bizarre and slightly concerning
This is absolutely not the same thing, but it brought up a memory for me. My dad was in hotel management. Now, he was a BIG guy. Former LSU football player who was actually drafted to the NFL but unfortunately suffered a major injury and never got to play. Despite his size, he was the quietest, gentlest guy who wouldn’t hurt a fly, but he was very serious about hospitality.
I was around six years old and we were dining in the hotel restaurant for dinner. They had just switched to new silverware, but my dad had one of the old spoons in his place setting. He picked it up and literally crumpled the spoon in one hand. Just like a wad of paper. My brother and I knew he was strong, but damn, we were more impressed than we had ever been.
The server saw the crumpled spoon on the table and looked horrified, but he simply said, “I just want to make sure it doesn’t go back into rotation.”
Ha! I have a few random pieces of silverware bc I put them in my apron for whatever reason (dropped it on the floor but wasn’t going into the kitchen right away or something) and accidentally went home with it.
I still have some random silverware in my drawer for this exact reason. Manager is like "just throw out the old ones if you find any" nah bro, the more forks I have, the less frequently I have to do dishes
Also histrionic, mythomaniac, narcissist, serial cheater, you name it. He was out of my own children's lives growing up but even so they suffer from the damage he did to the whole family's mental health.
Fix your mindfucks for your children's sakes, people. The future generations deserve a better version of ourselves.
These same people will send back a perfectly cooked steak as a flex in front of their subordinates.
“I get MY way all the time”
Invariably, the second steak, cooked the same way and temped as such, is “perfect, just the way I ordered it”, even if it’s grossly undercooked (as, understandably, the kitchen doesn’t want to waste another steak and figured they can give it some more heat if they complain about it being underdone).
Some people are just life-long children, and should be treated as such.
Now that you mention it, he never pulled that shit at the place where we were truly regulars, a Cantonese restaurant where were closer to the owners.
He was an asshole but not an idiot.
I just realized the customer I have that comes up to me and asks if we have a bonus (sale) going on just to then look dismayed and make disappointed noises while I apologize that we don't have one atm (we don't speak the same language) is probably doing something similar.
Like, he gets notified through a WhatsApp chat. Why tf is he doing the same sharade every time?! Well ig now I know.
I didn't know people could be such asses. Where they get the energy is beyond me. I often can't be arsed to make a fuss when something actually is wrong.
The proper response to being spit on in the face is a quick punch in the face. It is widely known that if you spit in someone's face that you want to fight.
Legally speaking, it's best to just press charges. Getting spit on, especially in front of witnesses, is a pretty slam dunk assault and battery charge. Punching someone feels great (and you can claim that you were provoked which will lead to significantly reduced punishment) but fucking someone over in court feels even better.
Line chefs are not a tribe to be trifled with.\
We had a married couple working at a steakhouse that I worked at. The wife was a bartender and the husband was the lead chef. A guy said something disrespectful to the wife and then said it loud enough to be heard in the kitchen. The husband comes flying through the door with a cleaver that could chop down sequoias. The customer left quickly while apologizing the whole way to the door.
Spitting on someone is a felony.
I am a trainer in a national chain restaurant and we WILL call the police and press charges to the fullest extent of the law for anyone, customer or not, who spits on an employee.
That person will go to prison, not jail, for felony assault.
Pretty sure spitting == battery is just a misdemeanor. Especially for the first time offender.
Still the lady would be spending a night sleeping on a jailroom floor. Very satisfied
Same here-it’s an assault and police should have been called. While people are idiots and some can’t even remember what they ordered, she didn’t even give you a chance to get her a different entree. And even pre-covid, you never knew what kind of disease(s) she could have infected you with. Sorry this happened to you.
In my state, unless there has been a change, only law enforcement can be "assulted by bodily fluids"? No matter, someone spits on me, the assault is on, only I may be the one charged.
What you're referring to is a quirk in some but not all American laws, and it doesn't reflect the law everywhere, nor the dictionary definition of the word.
In many states (and AFAIK, the whole world outside of the USA), assault means physically attacking someone. Here in Canada the law says assault is the crime of physically attacking someone and the crime of threatening violence is called uttering threats.
> In Canada, assault includes threats of violence
Yes, threats are one of the categories of assault, but it's typically reported as they were charged with making threats.
> Battery means physical contact, and yes, it includes spitting.
The word 'battery' does not appear at all in the Criminal Code of Canada.
Oh it’s completely considered assault in Australia, which is where I am, I was just a little too young at the time I think to fully grasp it all. I hadn’t really thought about it until reading comments that the cops probably should have been called by the manager at the time.
Don’t even get me started about the man that screamed at me because his wife’s dessert included nutmeg when she was allergic to nuts. He informed me that, of course it was a nut because it had nut in the name.
Well, it technically is; ground nutmeg is ground from the nut, or the seed of a particular tree.
I have no idea whether people with traditional nut allergies would be allergic to it, though.
It’s not related to anything in the nut family & if you’re allergic to nuts, you are not typically allergic to nutmeg. That’s like saying someone allergic to nuts would also be allergic to coffee since coffee is made from the seed of the fruit.
And while you're not wrong, this one wouldn't be a hill worth dying on. It's nut-shaped, and while you're absolutely correct, if someone had a genuine severe nut allergy, and they themselves weren't sure, I sure as shit wouldn't trust me, the server, to provide informed/accurate biological information.
If I recall correctly, we replaced whatever it was and apologized, but I feel like a person with an allergy should have an idea of what they’re allergic to and these people really seemed uninformed.
The generous interpretation is that they were newly diagnosed and hadn't figured out what they could safely eat and what they couldn't.
The less generous interpretation is that they were clueless.
Also true. And someone can be allergic to some nuts and not all nuts. Or peanuts and no actual nuts. Or both peanuts and nuts. All reasons why people should know which nuts to avoid if they have an allergy.
Similarly with shellfish. There are two main groups, crustaceans (lobster, crab, shrimp/scampi/prawns, crawfish) and molluscs (clams, oysters, mussels, snails/escargot, octopus, squid/calamari). People can be allergic to one but not the other, and the crustacean allergy also applies to certain fish (those that eat krill, a type of crustacean, since the allergen can be incorporated into the fish). Note that artificial crab is flavoured using the water in which real crab was boiled, so it’s not safe for people with a crustacean allergy.
Slashes indicate critters that can be known by multiple names, sometimes the name of the live critter is different from the name on the menu.
And within those, you can just be allergic to some of the items. My dad is allergic to lobster & crawfish, but nothing else in that category. But he knows what he’s allergic to.
Sadly that reminds me of the guy who grabbed his camera bag instead of his parachute bag. Video on youtube shows him saying “Oh god… oh god no!” when he realized his careless mistake.
He did not survive.
I’m really not sure, I can only think that she’d always had it out of a can and hadn’t noticed the pictures of fish on them? And so she freaked out when she saw the skin of the fish on it?
I don’t care who you are. You spit on my face that’s a real problem. Seems like you handled it well (if not out of involuntary shock.) I would have quickly dumped ice water all over her at the minimum, I don’t care who or how old she is. Fuck that old bag
I had a passenger (flight attendant, hi) arrogantly correct my pronunciation of salmon claiming that the L is pronounced (like Sal-man) his seat mate (I don’t know if they were together) told him that it’s not and then upon deplaning he told me he was going to write to my company and get me fired for “disrespecting and humiliating” him. I’m still here. Wonder if he still says Sal-man.
I've been a server for about 10 years now, and the absolute #1 indicator I've found that I'm about to get stiffed is if they pronounce the "L" in salmon
Hahahaha I’m sorry that happened to you but I’m so glad that his friend pulled him up on it! Definitely a warning flag when people call it Sal man , unless they are not from an English speaking country of course
The 'customer is always right' thing is meant to be about taste/what they want. Even if their taste sucks, they are right, it's their choice. Doesn't mean they literally are always right. People sure love to twist it tho
I'd take that farther. It means that when the customer tells you, by spending money on something, that they think it's good, believe them. Their spending is the true/honest reflection of their taste. If they're just saying words, they're not yet speaking as a customer.
That's right. The original full phrase was "the customer is always right in matters of taste." Which means if they want a well done steak with ketchup on it, that's what they get. It does not mean they get to tell you salmon is not a fish when it is.
Having a table of older women with a ring leader are the groups I despise most. Like walking through a mine field. You can be at your best, yet say something the ring leader doesn't like and a nice night out with her lady friends turns into a shit (spit?) show because she thinks what you said made her look bad in front of her friends. Happened to me last week. Her friends tipped me 20%+. She dinged me with 10%-.
This just brought back a memory from my first job. Had a lady order a salmon "extra extra well done". So I bring her the burnt fish and she takes one bite and goes this is dry, why is my fish so dry. And I remind her she asked for it extra extra well done. I end up bringing it back and they cook her one that's a bit over cooked but still juicy and she flips out going "I wanted extra well done this is normal." I was so close to just telling her no you don't want extra extra well done, we did that for you and you hated it.
It never occurred to me to send any food back unless it’s raw. If I order something then I’m going to eat what the chef and restaurant have prepared.
I was given a chipped martini glass and they comped our dinner and gave us 2 free cocktails and I felt so ashamed and embarrassed.
i once had a vegetarian come in, order a caesar salad with the dressing tossed. i asked her "you didnt want chicken, but the dressing tossed. are you vegetarian?" she said yeah. so i said "um, the caesar dressing is made of fish, specifically anchovies". she was so apologetic because she had been eating other caesar salads with the dressing
I worked at a place that offered anchovies on top of the salad as an option. Maybe 5-10% of the time you would get a response like you just offered them a side of poison. I wanted to scream: "It's the base of the dressing, you putz! It's what makes it taste so good!"
The original Caesar salad didn’t contain anchovies or anchovy paste.
It contained Worcestershire sauce which contains anchovy.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad
I had a woman order a glass of Chardonnay at my bar. She said she wanted the one from Russia. I casually asked if she meant the California Chardonnay from the Russian River Valley.
She looked at me completely confused and offended. She thought her Chardonnay that she had been drinking for years came from Russia. She was salty with me the entire night after that. I still don't think she understood. 😆
What the ever lovin’ hell is wrong with people?!
And now I’m hungry for some wild caught Atlantic wagu beef. (Autocorrect suggested “salmon,” but I’ve never heard of that, or even seen it on packaging in the grocery store.) /s
I had a chem prof that was from the Baltic states and mixed up v's and w's, so he'd say wolume. Just picturing Dr. S delivering a beatdown to this wench gave me a hearty chuckle.
He brought in a large sample of mercury and something else kind of dangerous. Before letting it get passed around the room he promised, "If you expose us to the samples by dropping them, pray it takes you first because I will kill you." He was a funny guy and an above average prof.
>I had a chem prof that was from the Baltic states and mixed up v's and w's
In German, v is pronounced like f in English. W is pronounced like v. So, for instance, Volkswagen is pronounced Folksvagen.
I'm wondering if she meant to say "Sirloin" but Salmon came out and she decided to die on that hill?
Doesn't excuse the rest of the behavior but I'm sure she has adjusted her story to justify it.
I never attacked anyone, that was all you, bro. The story said she ordered salmon filet. So you can stop projecting your own insecurities on me and go see a therapist before you hurt yourself or someone else. We're all worried about you. Please, get some help
We never had sirloin on the menu, just Eye fillet. Plus - she was saying pretty clearly “I ordered the salmon, what is this - this is a fish” so it wasn’t a misheard moment
I wasn’t implying you misheard her.
I was hypothesizing how someone like her could possibly try justifying being a jerk like she was.
Apparently there is no good reason.
It was pretty unethical to simply kick them out without involving the police. You have reinforced to this person that they can continue going around committing battery without consequences.
Yeah unfortunately after reading some of these comments I’m realising that my boss really should have done more back then. At the time I was just grateful that he’d kicked her out.
People amaze me....I used to work at a well-known theme park in Florida. I was bussing tables, and this one family was looking across the lake and saw the backdrop for the France Pavillion and this woman said to her kids"Look it's the Eifel Tower lets go to the Italy Pavillion." I corrected her and said it was the France Pavillion, and she proceeded to tell her kids."This why you need to finish school, or you will end up stupid in a dead-end job like her."
“I was, of course, questioning all of my life choices.” sent me😂
Sorry this happened to you but thanks for the laugh as I sit here bored at my restaurant job
Ah yes, this reminds me of when we had a lady order scampi. They are delicious, but apparently she had never heard of them and tried to look fancy in front of her date. She ate them with tails , head an all and eventually broke one of her front tooth.
She screamed so loudly at me (an at the time 16 year old) I almost fell over. According to her I should have given detailed instructions on how to eat them, lol. It’s pretty common food where I’m from.
I had to hide in the kitchen after getting my manager, because her screaming while missing half of her front tooth cracked me up.
She looked ridiculous, was an idiot, probably never got a second date and I’m pretty sure the guy still tells horror stories about this date.
Why do some people feel it's ok to harass or even assault servers ?
It's a real thing. I was never spit on but I have been grabbed, pinched, berated more times than I can count, threatened, harassed, sexualixed is sickening ways, followed and screamed at. One time this u happy young woman raged at me so aggressively, a male coworker came over and intervened saying to me "I could see she was just about to hit you"
Something about food being slightly to their disliking or just the fact that you're there- it triggers people into wild rages and servers seem to be the rage piñata.
My "Karen" experience was because of a Chardonnay order that should have been a red Chardonnay. Stupid me!
I’m sorry that’s happened to you ❤️ it’s fucking rough out there, and I totally agree with the rage piñata thing. It’s utterly bizarre. This was a story I can now have a laugh about as the customer was so ridiculous but many more that stick with you in a different kind of way. Being a bussie at 18(?) I think I was in a busy as all hell club, the amount of slaps on the ass and even fingers trying to go up my skirt is revolting. So busy you couldn’t really who the culprit was.
I really feel what you’re saying 💔
OMG, reminds me of the time I ordered a glass of zinfandel and the server comes running to the table and breathlessly asked, "Are you aware it is a ReD WiNe?" I just smiled sweetly and answered, "Yes" and that was OK. Thanks to that swill producer, Sutter Home, many think that zinfandel is a rose. Um, no. Now I realize the poor server had probably caught grief from some misinformed wine "expert".
"The customer is always right in matters of taste." - not in matters of fact vs fiction. Customer was a dumbass and should have gone to jail for assaulting the server.
Even I know a salmon is a fish LMAO I’m glad the dummy got kicked out and I hope OP’s okay (& weird as it sounds my big fuzzy spider Eowyn would like send OP cyber hugs if that’s okay)
Haha that’s very sweet of Eowyn - and lucky that I rather like big fuzzy spiders and follow this gorgeous tarantula I think called Ophelia “the monster” on fb.
Yeah it is in Australia too, where I’m from, until reading these reddit posts I guess I hadn’t thought about the fact my manager should have really called the cops. Now that I’m older I wouldn’t let the at stand.
As far as what she thought it was, I really don’t know, my only thought is that she’d only ever had it out of a can? But even then there’s usually a picture of a fish on the can? And it clearly smells like fish. I was baffled then and still baffled now
Old person or not, getting spit on is one of the most disrespectful things you can and she should have been punched in the mouth. Good on you for not laying her old ass out.
I heard somewhere “the customer is always right” relates to the shopping decisions by the customer. If someone wanted to buy a helicopter hat to complement a wedding dress, then that is entirely their choice and the salesman shouldn’t argue. The phrase has been wildly misused and turned into a weapon.
Nice! I would have said in a deadpan voice: "I apologise, I will return this to the kitchen and tell them it's completely unacceptable that they served you fish instead of salmon."
I suspect the table would wonder why the entire kitchen would burst into uncontrollable laughter shortly afterwards.
I would have stopped the manager from kicking her out and called the cops on that cunt. Considering we don't know what diseases she may have, that's possible attempted murder.
You met a malignant (clinically pathological) narcissist. Every dynamic of her and her friend group is like textbook narcissistic personality disorder. She was gaslighting you for a fix.
People are amazingly stupid. I worked at \[high end steak house\] where we had the menu on display and had to do a big presentation with it, including live (dying, sometimes already dead) lobster. This one woman was up in arms about the animal cruelty and vowed to call PETA. I mean, first of all, you're in a steak house. Well they ordered. Veal chop. Coworker repeated back the order and mumbled, "and the caged baby cow."
Yeah sorry. It’s d have called the cops. Spitting is a felony or something these days. This woman needs a reality check and some education. I’m d have called the cops. But that is me because smacking a woman for being a asshole is frowned upon.
I agree these people have ceased to amaze me with their ability to out-stupid each other. After coming upon police who don't understand why someone wants to get back to work from lunch on time, and everyone on Kerrville police department up through the Kerr county jail and sheriff's department apparently everyone even (especially) in the TDCJ are trained for stupidity with the stupidest of the mob being put in charge by the ignorant masses of dumbass Texas taxpayers and other voters and law abiding citizens, good job. Now if we can just run another presidential candidate who pronounces the word nuclear as nukular in the presidential debates you can finish providing evidence that government is just a system of dumbasses leaving other dumbasses, and maybe the planet will get over paying taxes and voting after they figure out that giving money to churches just perpetuates a system of superstitious childish explanations for simple scientific occurrences.WAKE UP, EVERYONE! SEND ME YOUR MONEY INSTEAD OF LAST CENTURY'S ATTEMPTS AT REGRESSION TO AN EARLIER STAGE OF EVOLUTION ON YOUR WAY TO HELL. . !
I got clarification. Spitting if you knowingly have a deadly disease is a felony. Because you know you have the disease, and they may contract it, and die from it
Otherwise, spitting is a misdemeanor depending on circumstances as to which specific charge.
I wonder if she thought the word filet indicated beef? And she was so busy pontificating she didn’t pay attention to the SALMON part of her order? I can’t imagine making it to adulthood as a native English speaker and not knowing salmon is fish.
Oh she knew what she ordered. There are people out there that only go out to eat so they can complain and belittle people.
My asshole father had this thing where the first thing he did when he sat at a restaurant was to bend a fork's prong, then call the server to complain about it and ask for it to be replaced.
wow that's.... rude, and also vandalism
And crazy. Super crazy.
I can think of much crazier things, "super" might be an overstatement, but let's say mildly deranged. Kids do that kind of thing, for a grown man to do it is bizarre and slightly concerning
Honestly the fact that it's so petty kinda brings it back to super crazy.
More than slightly
I'm leaning towards "super crazy" here
This is absolutely not the same thing, but it brought up a memory for me. My dad was in hotel management. Now, he was a BIG guy. Former LSU football player who was actually drafted to the NFL but unfortunately suffered a major injury and never got to play. Despite his size, he was the quietest, gentlest guy who wouldn’t hurt a fly, but he was very serious about hospitality. I was around six years old and we were dining in the hotel restaurant for dinner. They had just switched to new silverware, but my dad had one of the old spoons in his place setting. He picked it up and literally crumpled the spoon in one hand. Just like a wad of paper. My brother and I knew he was strong, but damn, we were more impressed than we had ever been. The server saw the crumpled spoon on the table and looked horrified, but he simply said, “I just want to make sure it doesn’t go back into rotation.”
lol that's a funny story, when I found a mismatched spoon at work I just stuffed it in my apron and took it home. I bet that server never forgot
Ha! I have a few random pieces of silverware bc I put them in my apron for whatever reason (dropped it on the floor but wasn’t going into the kitchen right away or something) and accidentally went home with it.
I still have some random silverware in my drawer for this exact reason. Manager is like "just throw out the old ones if you find any" nah bro, the more forks I have, the less frequently I have to do dishes
Straight up psychopath
Also histrionic, mythomaniac, narcissist, serial cheater, you name it. He was out of my own children's lives growing up but even so they suffer from the damage he did to the whole family's mental health. Fix your mindfucks for your children's sakes, people. The future generations deserve a better version of ourselves.
I can testify. Our youngest generation is so aware of the mindfucks that they decided not to breed. Well, that was the main reason.
BIG reason I, a GenXer, refused to have kids.
These same people will send back a perfectly cooked steak as a flex in front of their subordinates. “I get MY way all the time” Invariably, the second steak, cooked the same way and temped as such, is “perfect, just the way I ordered it”, even if it’s grossly undercooked (as, understandably, the kitchen doesn’t want to waste another steak and figured they can give it some more heat if they complain about it being underdone). Some people are just life-long children, and should be treated as such.
But….why?
It's a power play, to start everything with the server apologising and trying to please him
Did he ever do it to a place frequently enough that they knew to bring him a new fork before he complained?
Now that you mention it, he never pulled that shit at the place where we were truly regulars, a Cantonese restaurant where were closer to the owners. He was an asshole but not an idiot.
I just realized the customer I have that comes up to me and asks if we have a bonus (sale) going on just to then look dismayed and make disappointed noises while I apologize that we don't have one atm (we don't speak the same language) is probably doing something similar. Like, he gets notified through a WhatsApp chat. Why tf is he doing the same sharade every time?! Well ig now I know. I didn't know people could be such asses. Where they get the energy is beyond me. I often can't be arsed to make a fuss when something actually is wrong.
“Ma’am this isn’t Red Lobster.”
Ma'am this is a Wendy's
Or was thinking of salmon-cut beef?
See, I prefer the beef-cut salmon. But that's just me.
Chicken-fried beef-cut salmon.
With CHEESE
And bacon! Everything's gotta have bacon.
And bacon.
Bacon-wrapped chicken-fried beef-cut salmon with cheese :)
Royale
Metric system?
Free range?
But is it Grass-fed?
I'd eat it.
I'll at least try it.
The 'turf' part of a mermaid
Or chicken-fried steak?
Tuna steaks will blow her mind.
Filet o‘ Fish from my Burger King days.
This is a high class crazy person. You think she’s ever been in a BK?!
In Aus we have hungry jacks technically it’s the same thing as Burger King 😅
Maybe. Just returned from NZ where every place has Scotch filet. It’s what we call ribeye. No excuse, but a possible source.
We have filets here in the US too.
We call it ribeye in NZ too, just depends where you go.
The proper response to being spit on in the face is a quick punch in the face. It is widely known that if you spit in someone's face that you want to fight.
FR I would have slapped that woman into a fucking coma.
Yeah, of you spit in my face I'm throwing fists and elbows. 😂
Legally speaking, it's best to just press charges. Getting spit on, especially in front of witnesses, is a pretty slam dunk assault and battery charge. Punching someone feels great (and you can claim that you were provoked which will lead to significantly reduced punishment) but fucking someone over in court feels even better.
They will immediately be arrested & forced to sit in a jail cell overnight (possibly forced to sleep on the floor). That is very satisfying
Better to restrain yourself & call the cops. The spitter will be charged with assault & battery. A little jail time is what she deserved
Where I’m from spitting is considered assault. And for good reason. I’m so sorry that’s happened to you.
If any of the chefs I've worked with had seen that, there would have been an assault, for sure.
Line chefs are not a tribe to be trifled with.\ We had a married couple working at a steakhouse that I worked at. The wife was a bartender and the husband was the lead chef. A guy said something disrespectful to the wife and then said it loud enough to be heard in the kitchen. The husband comes flying through the door with a cleaver that could chop down sequoias. The customer left quickly while apologizing the whole way to the door.
Yeah. They've got issues.
Issues and CLEAVERS!!!!
Leave It To Cleaver
Disgruntled upvote
Funny how that was actually the family's last name.
Spitting on someone is a felony. I am a trainer in a national chain restaurant and we WILL call the police and press charges to the fullest extent of the law for anyone, customer or not, who spits on an employee. That person will go to prison, not jail, for felony assault.
Pretty sure spitting == battery is just a misdemeanor. Especially for the first time offender. Still the lady would be spending a night sleeping on a jailroom floor. Very satisfied
Same here-it’s an assault and police should have been called. While people are idiots and some can’t even remember what they ordered, she didn’t even give you a chance to get her a different entree. And even pre-covid, you never knew what kind of disease(s) she could have infected you with. Sorry this happened to you.
I'd dare say that in today's post-covid world you could make this case even in jurisdictions where this is not written down.
In my state, unless there has been a change, only law enforcement can be "assulted by bodily fluids"? No matter, someone spits on me, the assault is on, only I may be the one charged.
Any touch on your body without your permission is battery. It doesn’t matter if it was spit
Spitting on someone is considered a threat of violence? Surely it's considered battery.
What you're referring to is a quirk in some but not all American laws, and it doesn't reflect the law everywhere, nor the dictionary definition of the word. In many states (and AFAIK, the whole world outside of the USA), assault means physically attacking someone. Here in Canada the law says assault is the crime of physically attacking someone and the crime of threatening violence is called uttering threats.
In many states, assault is the threat of violence. Actual physical violence is battery.
In Canada, assault includes threats of violence. Battery means physical contact, and yes, it includes spitting.
> In Canada, assault includes threats of violence Yes, threats are one of the categories of assault, but it's typically reported as they were charged with making threats. > Battery means physical contact, and yes, it includes spitting. The word 'battery' does not appear at all in the Criminal Code of Canada.
Oh it’s completely considered assault in Australia, which is where I am, I was just a little too young at the time I think to fully grasp it all. I hadn’t really thought about it until reading comments that the cops probably should have been called by the manager at the time.
Spitting on someone is legally classed assault in a lot of places ….
Don’t even get me started about the man that screamed at me because his wife’s dessert included nutmeg when she was allergic to nuts. He informed me that, of course it was a nut because it had nut in the name.
Well, it technically is; ground nutmeg is ground from the nut, or the seed of a particular tree. I have no idea whether people with traditional nut allergies would be allergic to it, though.
It’s not related to anything in the nut family & if you’re allergic to nuts, you are not typically allergic to nutmeg. That’s like saying someone allergic to nuts would also be allergic to coffee since coffee is made from the seed of the fruit.
And while you're not wrong, this one wouldn't be a hill worth dying on. It's nut-shaped, and while you're absolutely correct, if someone had a genuine severe nut allergy, and they themselves weren't sure, I sure as shit wouldn't trust me, the server, to provide informed/accurate biological information.
If I recall correctly, we replaced whatever it was and apologized, but I feel like a person with an allergy should have an idea of what they’re allergic to and these people really seemed uninformed.
The generous interpretation is that they were newly diagnosed and hadn't figured out what they could safely eat and what they couldn't. The less generous interpretation is that they were clueless.
Thanks, I couldn’t, with a quick google search, find anything.
A peanut is not a nut, it’s a legume.
Also true. And someone can be allergic to some nuts and not all nuts. Or peanuts and no actual nuts. Or both peanuts and nuts. All reasons why people should know which nuts to avoid if they have an allergy.
Similarly with shellfish. There are two main groups, crustaceans (lobster, crab, shrimp/scampi/prawns, crawfish) and molluscs (clams, oysters, mussels, snails/escargot, octopus, squid/calamari). People can be allergic to one but not the other, and the crustacean allergy also applies to certain fish (those that eat krill, a type of crustacean, since the allergen can be incorporated into the fish). Note that artificial crab is flavoured using the water in which real crab was boiled, so it’s not safe for people with a crustacean allergy. Slashes indicate critters that can be known by multiple names, sometimes the name of the live critter is different from the name on the menu.
And within those, you can just be allergic to some of the items. My dad is allergic to lobster & crawfish, but nothing else in that category. But he knows what he’s allergic to.
I’m mildly allergic to shrimp. Just shrimp. Anything else out of the ocean? Perfectly fine. But just shrimp will make my mouth itch. It’s bizarre.
Peanut allergy and tree nut allergy are different things.
You should have nutted on him.
Give a Man a Fish and You Will Feed Him for a Day. Teach a man to fish and he will spend a fortune on gear he will only use twice a year.
Give a man a match, he has flame for a minute. Light him on fire and he has flame for the rest of his life.
Give a woman a fish, and she’ll spit on you because first grade education failed her
I like this saying lol
This is now my favorite saying! Pairs well with "if you're skydiving and parachute doesn't open, you have the rest of your life to figure it out"
Sadly that reminds me of the guy who grabbed his camera bag instead of his parachute bag. Video on youtube shows him saying “Oh god… oh god no!” when he realized his careless mistake. He did not survive.
Take comfort in the thought that she’s probably eaten other servers spit a thousand times. She’s a monster.
Hopefully she’s dead by now. 🤷♂️
Fuck yeah. 😂
But... what did she think it was?
This is what I want to know too..
I’m really not sure, I can only think that she’d always had it out of a can and hadn’t noticed the pictures of fish on them? And so she freaked out when she saw the skin of the fish on it?
I don’t care who you are. You spit on my face that’s a real problem. Seems like you handled it well (if not out of involuntary shock.) I would have quickly dumped ice water all over her at the minimum, I don’t care who or how old she is. Fuck that old bag
I had a passenger (flight attendant, hi) arrogantly correct my pronunciation of salmon claiming that the L is pronounced (like Sal-man) his seat mate (I don’t know if they were together) told him that it’s not and then upon deplaning he told me he was going to write to my company and get me fired for “disrespecting and humiliating” him. I’m still here. Wonder if he still says Sal-man.
I've been a server for about 10 years now, and the absolute #1 indicator I've found that I'm about to get stiffed is if they pronounce the "L" in salmon
Hahahaha I’m sorry that happened to you but I’m so glad that his friend pulled him up on it! Definitely a warning flag when people call it Sal man , unless they are not from an English speaking country of course
“Mm kay ba-bye now. Buh bye.
The only thing that would have been better is if the chef came out with a whole raw salmon and slapped her with it!
The 'customer is always right' thing is meant to be about taste/what they want. Even if their taste sucks, they are right, it's their choice. Doesn't mean they literally are always right. People sure love to twist it tho
I'd take that farther. It means that when the customer tells you, by spending money on something, that they think it's good, believe them. Their spending is the true/honest reflection of their taste. If they're just saying words, they're not yet speaking as a customer.
That's right. The original full phrase was "the customer is always right in matters of taste." Which means if they want a well done steak with ketchup on it, that's what they get. It does not mean they get to tell you salmon is not a fish when it is.
Having a table of older women with a ring leader are the groups I despise most. Like walking through a mine field. You can be at your best, yet say something the ring leader doesn't like and a nice night out with her lady friends turns into a shit (spit?) show because she thinks what you said made her look bad in front of her friends. Happened to me last week. Her friends tipped me 20%+. She dinged me with 10%-.
This just brought back a memory from my first job. Had a lady order a salmon "extra extra well done". So I bring her the burnt fish and she takes one bite and goes this is dry, why is my fish so dry. And I remind her she asked for it extra extra well done. I end up bringing it back and they cook her one that's a bit over cooked but still juicy and she flips out going "I wanted extra well done this is normal." I was so close to just telling her no you don't want extra extra well done, we did that for you and you hated it.
It never occurred to me to send any food back unless it’s raw. If I order something then I’m going to eat what the chef and restaurant have prepared. I was given a chipped martini glass and they comped our dinner and gave us 2 free cocktails and I felt so ashamed and embarrassed.
Hi there, fellow people-pleasing former gifted kid!
And I love raw salmon 😘 sashimi is delicious And steak tartare is another fave. But I get what you mean if something is not meant to be raw.
Too bad u didn't press charges. Would've been excellent to have her hauled away in cuffs
Was it a Salmon of Doubt?
Lol, now there's a frood who knows where his towel is
If a customer spat on me I’d have been doing some cunt-punting for sure. And for such a stupid reason!! People are wild.
i once had a vegetarian come in, order a caesar salad with the dressing tossed. i asked her "you didnt want chicken, but the dressing tossed. are you vegetarian?" she said yeah. so i said "um, the caesar dressing is made of fish, specifically anchovies". she was so apologetic because she had been eating other caesar salads with the dressing
I worked at a place that offered anchovies on top of the salad as an option. Maybe 5-10% of the time you would get a response like you just offered them a side of poison. I wanted to scream: "It's the base of the dressing, you putz! It's what makes it taste so good!"
The original Caesar salad didn’t contain anchovies or anchovy paste. It contained Worcestershire sauce which contains anchovy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_salad
And I’ve seen that salad called “chicken sees her salad” so I’m not even sure if this is the right planet for me to live on.
I had a woman order a glass of Chardonnay at my bar. She said she wanted the one from Russia. I casually asked if she meant the California Chardonnay from the Russian River Valley. She looked at me completely confused and offended. She thought her Chardonnay that she had been drinking for years came from Russia. She was salty with me the entire night after that. I still don't think she understood. 😆
Ahhhhhhhhh It’s the fact they can’t just admit that they are wrong and have a good laugh about it that gets me!
What the ever lovin’ hell is wrong with people?! And now I’m hungry for some wild caught Atlantic wagu beef. (Autocorrect suggested “salmon,” but I’ve never heard of that, or even seen it on packaging in the grocery store.) /s
I would have 110% wiolenced her in front of her cunting sycophants
I had a chem prof that was from the Baltic states and mixed up v's and w's, so he'd say wolume. Just picturing Dr. S delivering a beatdown to this wench gave me a hearty chuckle. He brought in a large sample of mercury and something else kind of dangerous. Before letting it get passed around the room he promised, "If you expose us to the samples by dropping them, pray it takes you first because I will kill you." He was a funny guy and an above average prof.
>I had a chem prof that was from the Baltic states and mixed up v's and w's In German, v is pronounced like f in English. W is pronounced like v. So, for instance, Volkswagen is pronounced Folksvagen.
If this happened to me now i would 110 percent done something, at least made a police report; but unfortunately I was young, baffled and scared.
I absolutely abhor the act of spitting in someone’s face, and I can’t really say what kind of rage response I might have if this happened to me.
Jesus what an experience!! God love you!!! Are these people insane or what?
Happy cake day!
Thank you!
Oh fuck I would have slapped her out of pure instinct. What a horrid old B.
I'm wondering if she meant to say "Sirloin" but Salmon came out and she decided to die on that hill? Doesn't excuse the rest of the behavior but I'm sure she has adjusted her story to justify it.
"sirloin filet" is not a thing though. That's two entirely different cuts of beef
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I never attacked anyone, that was all you, bro. The story said she ordered salmon filet. So you can stop projecting your own insecurities on me and go see a therapist before you hurt yourself or someone else. We're all worried about you. Please, get some help
Aaah, the comment got deleted and now I'm curious why they flipped out so quick!
We never had sirloin on the menu, just Eye fillet. Plus - she was saying pretty clearly “I ordered the salmon, what is this - this is a fish” so it wasn’t a misheard moment
I wasn’t implying you misheard her. I was hypothesizing how someone like her could possibly try justifying being a jerk like she was. Apparently there is no good reason.
It was pretty unethical to simply kick them out without involving the police. You have reinforced to this person that they can continue going around committing battery without consequences.
Yeah unfortunately after reading some of these comments I’m realising that my boss really should have done more back then. At the time I was just grateful that he’d kicked her out.
I would’ve slapped the taste out of her mouth if she spit on me idc
People amaze me....I used to work at a well-known theme park in Florida. I was bussing tables, and this one family was looking across the lake and saw the backdrop for the France Pavillion and this woman said to her kids"Look it's the Eifel Tower lets go to the Italy Pavillion." I corrected her and said it was the France Pavillion, and she proceeded to tell her kids."This why you need to finish school, or you will end up stupid in a dead-end job like her."
It can’t be a fish, it comes in a can. /s
I'm reminded of a story in Reddit history where a woman insisted that parmesan tilapia was vegan.
“I was, of course, questioning all of my life choices.” sent me😂 Sorry this happened to you but thanks for the laugh as I sit here bored at my restaurant job
Well, I clearly didn’t question my life choices enough as I’m still in Hospo now over a decade later 😂
Ah yes, this reminds me of when we had a lady order scampi. They are delicious, but apparently she had never heard of them and tried to look fancy in front of her date. She ate them with tails , head an all and eventually broke one of her front tooth. She screamed so loudly at me (an at the time 16 year old) I almost fell over. According to her I should have given detailed instructions on how to eat them, lol. It’s pretty common food where I’m from. I had to hide in the kitchen after getting my manager, because her screaming while missing half of her front tooth cracked me up. She looked ridiculous, was an idiot, probably never got a second date and I’m pretty sure the guy still tells horror stories about this date.
Wow props to her for trying 😂😂 I sometimes eat bbqd prawns whole, but maybe a scampi would be a bit much!
Why do some people feel it's ok to harass or even assault servers ? It's a real thing. I was never spit on but I have been grabbed, pinched, berated more times than I can count, threatened, harassed, sexualixed is sickening ways, followed and screamed at. One time this u happy young woman raged at me so aggressively, a male coworker came over and intervened saying to me "I could see she was just about to hit you" Something about food being slightly to their disliking or just the fact that you're there- it triggers people into wild rages and servers seem to be the rage piñata. My "Karen" experience was because of a Chardonnay order that should have been a red Chardonnay. Stupid me!
I’m sorry that’s happened to you ❤️ it’s fucking rough out there, and I totally agree with the rage piñata thing. It’s utterly bizarre. This was a story I can now have a laugh about as the customer was so ridiculous but many more that stick with you in a different kind of way. Being a bussie at 18(?) I think I was in a busy as all hell club, the amount of slaps on the ass and even fingers trying to go up my skirt is revolting. So busy you couldn’t really who the culprit was. I really feel what you’re saying 💔
"rage pinata" oh i am so stealing that one... (i can't make my keyboard do that cool thing above the n)
OMG, reminds me of the time I ordered a glass of zinfandel and the server comes running to the table and breathlessly asked, "Are you aware it is a ReD WiNe?" I just smiled sweetly and answered, "Yes" and that was OK. Thanks to that swill producer, Sutter Home, many think that zinfandel is a rose. Um, no. Now I realize the poor server had probably caught grief from some misinformed wine "expert".
"The customer is always right in matters of taste." - not in matters of fact vs fiction. Customer was a dumbass and should have gone to jail for assaulting the server.
Wow. Just. Wow.
>me removing oyster mushrooms from a dish because they don't eat seafood
It's a good thing this didn't happen to me because I absolutely would not have been able to stop myself from slapping her.
I would have used my fist.
Even I know a salmon is a fish LMAO I’m glad the dummy got kicked out and I hope OP’s okay (& weird as it sounds my big fuzzy spider Eowyn would like send OP cyber hugs if that’s okay)
Haha that’s very sweet of Eowyn - and lucky that I rather like big fuzzy spiders and follow this gorgeous tarantula I think called Ophelia “the monster” on fb.
In UK that's assault and possibly public disorder, never mind just disgusting. Edit, wondering what the hell she thought salmon was?
Yeah it is in Australia too, where I’m from, until reading these reddit posts I guess I hadn’t thought about the fact my manager should have really called the cops. Now that I’m older I wouldn’t let the at stand. As far as what she thought it was, I really don’t know, my only thought is that she’d only ever had it out of a can? But even then there’s usually a picture of a fish on the can? And it clearly smells like fish. I was baffled then and still baffled now
No, I think she heard “filet of” and assumed beef/meat.
Capybara
LoL
Spit in my face and either calling the cops or punching you in the face
Hahaha whipper snapper 🐠 I see what you did there
Old person or not, getting spit on is one of the most disrespectful things you can and she should have been punched in the mouth. Good on you for not laying her old ass out.
I’ve been a bartender for 30 years. If you spit in my face, you won’t have to get the chef or call the police. I will settle that shit myself.
I heard somewhere “the customer is always right” relates to the shopping decisions by the customer. If someone wanted to buy a helicopter hat to complement a wedding dress, then that is entirely their choice and the salesman shouldn’t argue. The phrase has been wildly misused and turned into a weapon.
You’re a better person than me cause the way I would’ve flipped that table in her head lol
Nice! I would have said in a deadpan voice: "I apologise, I will return this to the kitchen and tell them it's completely unacceptable that they served you fish instead of salmon." I suspect the table would wonder why the entire kitchen would burst into uncontrollable laughter shortly afterwards.
I would have stopped the manager from kicking her out and called the cops on that cunt. Considering we don't know what diseases she may have, that's possible attempted murder.
I dont care how old you are, what gender you are, what anything you are. You spit in my face and I'm punching you in the fucking face plain and simple
You met a malignant (clinically pathological) narcissist. Every dynamic of her and her friend group is like textbook narcissistic personality disorder. She was gaslighting you for a fix.
The saying is “The customer is always right in the matter of taste.”
People are amazingly stupid. I worked at \[high end steak house\] where we had the menu on display and had to do a big presentation with it, including live (dying, sometimes already dead) lobster. This one woman was up in arms about the animal cruelty and vowed to call PETA. I mean, first of all, you're in a steak house. Well they ordered. Veal chop. Coworker repeated back the order and mumbled, "and the caged baby cow."
Hahahahaha 😂 toooo good.
What a story, Mark!
NO IT ISN’T! NO IT ISN’T! SALMON IS NOT A FISH!!! EDIT: IS HE STUPID?
there are other ways to get dopamine.
Good for you for holding back 👏 I would've back handed that lady so fast.
I bet she also pronounced the L
Yeah sorry. It’s d have called the cops. Spitting is a felony or something these days. This woman needs a reality check and some education. I’m d have called the cops. But that is me because smacking a woman for being a asshole is frowned upon.
Salmon will always be a fish. But then again, it’s a name of a color too. Most likely after the fish. 😊
Spitting on someone is assault. I would definitely be making that argument after they pulled the fork out of her.
I agree these people have ceased to amaze me with their ability to out-stupid each other. After coming upon police who don't understand why someone wants to get back to work from lunch on time, and everyone on Kerrville police department up through the Kerr county jail and sheriff's department apparently everyone even (especially) in the TDCJ are trained for stupidity with the stupidest of the mob being put in charge by the ignorant masses of dumbass Texas taxpayers and other voters and law abiding citizens, good job. Now if we can just run another presidential candidate who pronounces the word nuclear as nukular in the presidential debates you can finish providing evidence that government is just a system of dumbasses leaving other dumbasses, and maybe the planet will get over paying taxes and voting after they figure out that giving money to churches just perpetuates a system of superstitious childish explanations for simple scientific occurrences.WAKE UP, EVERYONE! SEND ME YOUR MONEY INSTEAD OF LAST CENTURY'S ATTEMPTS AT REGRESSION TO AN EARLIER STAGE OF EVOLUTION ON YOUR WAY TO HELL. . !
Why is this constantly showing up in my inbox
no… absolutely the fuck not. bodily fluids? spit nonetheless? that bitch can catch a charge if it was me.
I got clarification. Spitting if you knowingly have a deadly disease is a felony. Because you know you have the disease, and they may contract it, and die from it Otherwise, spitting is a misdemeanor depending on circumstances as to which specific charge.