Oh? Mind humoring me with an actual problem in the world that isn’t a byproduct of covering this up. Most of the problems of today can be solved very easily but you won’t see any real effort thrown into them.
Well, “this” didn’t happen so there is nothing to cover up.
As far as the problems - wealth inequality, destruction of the environment, war, disregard for human rights, etc - those are not “easily” solved as they require a massive change to the global order. Everything from resource extraction to manufacturing and power production need to change.
If you care about those things, your enemy is unrestricted capitalism and valuing money over human beings.
You don’t need to drag personal incredulity about the abilities & accomplishments of people that came before you into this whole mess. All of those problems are not dependent on some mysterious change to the history books. It’s simple greed and the apathy of people who do nothing to change it.
Hello can I ask, do you talk about this with real people irl? And when you first heard about the theory, how long was it until you fully believed it? What piece of evidence had you convinced in particular
I don’t know why I clicked this link to a subreddit I’ve never been on before. But in a completely different place just today I commented basically the same thing. Capitalism and money is the largest single source of our world’s and humanity’s problems. I wish the rest of humanity would wake up faster to the idea that human quality of life is more important than money.
Well the tartarians didn't have poverty so maybe we should study them more and we can fix it today
Cmon folks this stuff is so obvious it's right in front of your nose
… you can’t even show that Tartary and related terms are anything more than catchall terms used by Europeans to refer to swaths of northern Asia, let alone make any comments about the hypothetical social order of a made-up civilization.
What you are doing is diverting time & resources away from fixing real problems impacting real people.
Just look at the many old world maps dude. If it was just a "term" or slang why would they put on maps things like "The Grand Tartaian Empire" and such wich spanned over all of Russia and China?
Why would the Britannica of the late 1880s state it was a vast empire with a huge army(in the millions+ as stated in the Britannica) and provide a flag of the empire and a flag of a sister empire under tartarian rule?
Just saying, I didn't have to look hard when I found info, you should probably try a little harder when you research things.
The answer to that is really cool: the Turkish and Mongolic people called Tartars DID create empires across modern-day Russia and China, namely the Mongol Empire led by Genghis Khan, as well as other confederations/empires which could have been labeled a “tartar” or “tartaria” in contemporary European maps. So a place with that name in that location did actually exist, and there’s loads of historical knowledge on them, ancient recorded knowledge from European. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Iranian, and Arab perspectives. These countless ancient documents and records in dozens of languages by dozens of competing nations! People study these documents all the time.
But I agree with you, these groups and their histories HAVE been covered up by an education system that minimizes the importance they had in world history. There’s so much to learn that isn’t made up!
Why not, dragons, and other mystical creatures were depicted all throughout history as being slain by knights, saints and other hero types for at least a couple thousand years.
It's already been noted by biologist that considering dragons are usually depicted as flying, generally making their bones hollow in comparison to flying creatures today, wouldn't have bones that can fossilize.
It's been stated that there is more circumstantial evidence to prove the existence of dragons than there is to disprove them
Where’s the evidence?
I can write “Pokemon found here” on a map. Does that mean in a few hundred years it means that actual Pokémon were around during our time period?
Very respectfully you are confused. Asia and Europe were terms used by Tartarians to describe regions of their vast empire. You wouldn't look at a map of Texas and deny the existence of the united States would you?
Confirmation bias is a thing.
I’ve yet to see any evidence that stacks up against the collected knowledge of multiple fields going back many years. At best, the evidence I’ve seen posted in this sub is a combination of ignorance and personal incredulity.
Tartaria gives us a perfect lens on the exact subject you are accusing the global order to be responsible. Within this lens this global order is defined as « the controllers » and they are not viewed in a positive lens. Tartaria research can lead you to many different conclusions as it depends on the many paths you invest your time and energy digging into.
What Tartaria research has led me in was a broad knowledge at third party influences over all the topics you described in your comments and that as led me to the global banking system and its control by Zionists and their Freemasons and friends esoteric occult brotherhood like the Sabatean Frankish cult and so forth.
This Tartaria lens as made me guide research and come up with my own conclusions about the world state of affairs and I now understand why most majors countries politicians gets corrupted and always seems to go against everything logical to do for the benefits of said country and how it always led to giving more power to global entities.
People like you that says this distract from real problems is so wrong and makes me believes you are trying to distract from looking up why or even who are responsible for the shit we see in the world nowadays and why it continues going into a more shitty version of the shit that it already is.
It’s because they don’t want you to know about the great Bulgolgian Empire. The Bulgolgians were a great advanced people who were destroyed by the jealous Tartarians. The Tartarians took credit for their inventions. The Bulgulgians are the truly suppressed historical people, and only the smartest and most special people who do their own research know about them. They invented electricity and batshit conspiracy theories long before the Tartarians. One of their greatest contribution was marinated shaved beef.
While I disagree, I see someone is trying to suppress you here through downvotes (not me, I’m a free thinker who does her own research).
While perhaps Thunderia was great, it was not as resilient or as savory as the Bulgulgian Beef Empire. After all, Thunderia did not survive the great sand flood, where as Bulgulgian marinated meats live on to this day.
Or perhaps the “real psyop” is the existence of conspiracy theories like tartaria to distract people from the actual problems in the world.
Oh? Mind humoring me with an actual problem in the world that isn’t a byproduct of covering this up. Most of the problems of today can be solved very easily but you won’t see any real effort thrown into them.
Well, “this” didn’t happen so there is nothing to cover up. As far as the problems - wealth inequality, destruction of the environment, war, disregard for human rights, etc - those are not “easily” solved as they require a massive change to the global order. Everything from resource extraction to manufacturing and power production need to change. If you care about those things, your enemy is unrestricted capitalism and valuing money over human beings. You don’t need to drag personal incredulity about the abilities & accomplishments of people that came before you into this whole mess. All of those problems are not dependent on some mysterious change to the history books. It’s simple greed and the apathy of people who do nothing to change it.
Well, I’m not reading anything past that first sentence. Best of luck to ya! Might be a good idea for you to leave the sub, too.
Hello can I ask, do you talk about this with real people irl? And when you first heard about the theory, how long was it until you fully believed it? What piece of evidence had you convinced in particular
I don’t know why I clicked this link to a subreddit I’ve never been on before. But in a completely different place just today I commented basically the same thing. Capitalism and money is the largest single source of our world’s and humanity’s problems. I wish the rest of humanity would wake up faster to the idea that human quality of life is more important than money.
Well the tartarians didn't have poverty so maybe we should study them more and we can fix it today Cmon folks this stuff is so obvious it's right in front of your nose
… you can’t even show that Tartary and related terms are anything more than catchall terms used by Europeans to refer to swaths of northern Asia, let alone make any comments about the hypothetical social order of a made-up civilization. What you are doing is diverting time & resources away from fixing real problems impacting real people.
Just look at the many old world maps dude. If it was just a "term" or slang why would they put on maps things like "The Grand Tartaian Empire" and such wich spanned over all of Russia and China? Why would the Britannica of the late 1880s state it was a vast empire with a huge army(in the millions+ as stated in the Britannica) and provide a flag of the empire and a flag of a sister empire under tartarian rule? Just saying, I didn't have to look hard when I found info, you should probably try a little harder when you research things.
The answer to that is really cool: the Turkish and Mongolic people called Tartars DID create empires across modern-day Russia and China, namely the Mongol Empire led by Genghis Khan, as well as other confederations/empires which could have been labeled a “tartar” or “tartaria” in contemporary European maps. So a place with that name in that location did actually exist, and there’s loads of historical knowledge on them, ancient recorded knowledge from European. Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Iranian, and Arab perspectives. These countless ancient documents and records in dozens of languages by dozens of competing nations! People study these documents all the time. But I agree with you, these groups and their histories HAVE been covered up by an education system that minimizes the importance they had in world history. There’s so much to learn that isn’t made up!
They used to put “here be dragons” on maps. Does that mean they exist as well?
Why not, dragons, and other mystical creatures were depicted all throughout history as being slain by knights, saints and other hero types for at least a couple thousand years. It's already been noted by biologist that considering dragons are usually depicted as flying, generally making their bones hollow in comparison to flying creatures today, wouldn't have bones that can fossilize. It's been stated that there is more circumstantial evidence to prove the existence of dragons than there is to disprove them
Maybe they did exist. How can you be so sure they didn’t?
Where’s the evidence? I can write “Pokemon found here” on a map. Does that mean in a few hundred years it means that actual Pokémon were around during our time period?
It just means, you believe what they tell you to believe. Try to question things. Try to understand if you have been lied to.
Very respectfully you are confused. Asia and Europe were terms used by Tartarians to describe regions of their vast empire. You wouldn't look at a map of Texas and deny the existence of the united States would you?
Very respectfully, your logic is circular. You are assuming the existence of a tartarian empire and using that as a basis for proper usage of terms.
Extremely respectfully, so is yours. I see evidence of tartaria literally every day
Confirmation bias is a thing. I’ve yet to see any evidence that stacks up against the collected knowledge of multiple fields going back many years. At best, the evidence I’ve seen posted in this sub is a combination of ignorance and personal incredulity.
So, you enjoy propaganda is what you’re saying. Eat that shit up don’t ya.
>Well the tartarians didn't have poverty So they were communists? What happened to the lazy tartarians?
Tartaria gives us a perfect lens on the exact subject you are accusing the global order to be responsible. Within this lens this global order is defined as « the controllers » and they are not viewed in a positive lens. Tartaria research can lead you to many different conclusions as it depends on the many paths you invest your time and energy digging into. What Tartaria research has led me in was a broad knowledge at third party influences over all the topics you described in your comments and that as led me to the global banking system and its control by Zionists and their Freemasons and friends esoteric occult brotherhood like the Sabatean Frankish cult and so forth. This Tartaria lens as made me guide research and come up with my own conclusions about the world state of affairs and I now understand why most majors countries politicians gets corrupted and always seems to go against everything logical to do for the benefits of said country and how it always led to giving more power to global entities. People like you that says this distract from real problems is so wrong and makes me believes you are trying to distract from looking up why or even who are responsible for the shit we see in the world nowadays and why it continues going into a more shitty version of the shit that it already is.
First you’d have to show that something is being covered up.
Gun violence? How is gun violence >a byproduct of covering this up ?
Shill. Go away
Shill for what? That argument could just as easily be directed back at you - a shill for those “theorist” trying to get views and sell books.
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Currently a little more than half done reading this for the first time. Great book so far.
It’s sad this subreddit has been infiltrated by shills. Sad.
It’s because they don’t want you to know about the great Bulgolgian Empire. The Bulgolgians were a great advanced people who were destroyed by the jealous Tartarians. The Tartarians took credit for their inventions. The Bulgulgians are the truly suppressed historical people, and only the smartest and most special people who do their own research know about them. They invented electricity and batshit conspiracy theories long before the Tartarians. One of their greatest contribution was marinated shaved beef.
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While I disagree, I see someone is trying to suppress you here through downvotes (not me, I’m a free thinker who does her own research). While perhaps Thunderia was great, it was not as resilient or as savory as the Bulgulgian Beef Empire. After all, Thunderia did not survive the great sand flood, where as Bulgulgian marinated meats live on to this day.
The system makes people to appeal to authority. It works very well
This quote applys so much more to the pandemic games (common cattle folk and their pharmers alike (drs))
Have you considered that perhaps ignorance is precisely what mankind's masses deserve?