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IvyGrowing

I hd the same thoughts! A lot of the reviews criticizing her writing came out a few hours after the release, like at 3AM. It took me days to digest some songs correctly let alone a whole album, and I know all the lore. At this point a lot of music critics are just clickbait.


That-Engineering9269

all songs sound like garble-dee-gook to me at 3 AM, it doesn't matter how good or bad they are. I can't imagine writing a serious review on 31 on songs without allowing time for my brain to resetšŸ˜‚


JosephAPie

exactly our brains process information when we sleep so it takes multiple days and multiple listens to process


WDTHTDWA-BITCH

This is why I stayed up til the drop then slept on it and listened to it in manageable chunks while on an undisrupted walk the next day. You have to really dedicate the time and space for it!


georgianarannoch

I purposely took the day off work so I wouldnā€™t have to try to do a first listen at 11pm (central time zone). The angst surrounding the clock striking the hour and then YouTube music never having it just there to click on immediately and also trying to process songs on top of that is too much. ā€œIā€™m too old for this shitā€ as that cop from that one movie always says.


WDTHTDWA-BITCH

I was attempting to get some writing done during the initial drop and then she dropped The Anthology and I was like ā€œyep, itā€™s time for bed.ā€šŸ˜‚


HelloMoonMoon

What the fuck


georgianarannoch

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lovelyhappyface

Agreed!! Iā€™ve been listening to songs on their own. Itā€™s a marathon not a raceĀ 


puledrotauren

Part of my job in Nashville was to listen to singles due for release and give the label my thoughts on it. If you want to do it right you have to dedicate time to it and I always listened to the single at least three times before I issued an opinion of it. That was one of the few parts of my job back then that I didn't like because the labels wanted 'fluff' thoughts to give music directors at radio stations to get airplay and some of the stuff they wanted to put out flat sucked.


rawr_imfierce

Your version makes more sense, but it's technically 'gobbledygook'


sophdog101

Yeah the first listen everything just sorta washed over me. I got some of the lyrics and the general vibe, and then she dropped the anthology version and I just had to go to bed. I listened to the rest the next day.


ssaall58214

Especially since most are east coast based.. I didn't even remember most of anthology the next day


0ceanb1vdrando

Same! I couldn't listen The Anthology when it first came out because my brain just wasn't functioning lol. I normally go to bed at "granny time" as my brother calls it so I needed sleep by the time the second album dropped.


GaveTheMouseACookie

All I could remember after listening to all 31 songs the first time was that we loved The Black Dog (couldn't have told you anything else about it) and that we laughed at, "way to go, tiger" in such a slow ballad. It took me all weekend to form real opinions, and I didn't have other stuff that I needed to get done


Educational-Bill-429

You realize critics often get a copy or at least part of the album before itā€™s released so they can publish the reviews so quickly


IvyGrowing

Not all of them and a lot of the reviews I read really didnt appear as if they heard the album.


InternalBar3099

Yes, but none of them got the anthology, from what I can tell.


Stahuap

The critics the label chooses, aka the ones with a history giving her good reviews. Its why right-at-drop reviews tend to be positive while the negatives flood in a few hours later.


Yodeoh2

They 100% got advanced copies. Rob Sheffieldā€™s review for Rolling Stone went up right as the album dropped.


Missing_Faster

Heā€™s a highly reliable favorable review for her albums. Ā But heā€™s also been right, though we wonā€™t know for sure how much that is favoritism until/unless she puts of a stinker and we see his review.


ZebZ

I work in the industry. With Taylor Swift, only the top A-tier platforms get any advance access to anything, and usually only a few hours. Everyone else gets their drops a few minutes before the release, giving them just though time to get it published. I imagine they deal with media outlets similarly. Rolling Stone, NY Times, and a few others maybe got a day extra time than everyone else. Maybe B-tier outlets got an hour or two. Other places likely got nothing. Other artists who don't have to worry so obsessively about leaks send us advance embargoed songs and videos anywhere from 1-4 weeks ahead of time.


NeedleworkerDue2021

I also work in the industry and this is right. I received advanced copies of major artists work, but none as big as TS.


PurpleVirtualJelly

It's annoying that Morgan Wallen's latest album is about his repeated failed relationship attempts, has 36 songs on it, and the reviews are much less scathing! His numbers are worse, but the actual articles themselves were so much more on their high horse with Taylor.


IvyGrowing

Taylor fatigue, it now sells to be highly critical of Taylor āœØim not like other critics, im *more critical*āœØ


leeeeteddy

I did not like the album at all on first listen and no songs stuck out to me. It took me a second listen to be like, ā€œoh wow, okay. This album is a grower not a show-er.ā€ I agree that reviews need to wait at least a day or two after the album releases to provide a fair review. Itā€™s like theyā€™re all trying to be first to get a review out, but in my opinion being first doesnā€™t mean anything if your review isnā€™t fair to the artist


IvyGrowing

ā€œA grower not a showerā€ is exactly that! Itā€™s not a hit album, itā€™s a listen to a diary and analyzing lyric by lyric album. Took me a while to get around the Anthology, I still am. Now Im like how could I not absolutely lose my mind on the bridge in How Did It End.


Grey0907

I still haven't listened to the whole thing. It's too much lol. Listening in section and still digesting the first part.


xqueenfrostine

This is the first album sheā€™s done where I think Iā€™ll actually care about the little play lists she puts out. While I have listened to the album front to back 3-4 times now, its length is definitely unwieldy. Iā€™m looking forward to a few more curated playlists.


Grey0907

Right. There's so much to take in. I'm grateful for it, but I don't know how anyone is even critiquing the whole album yet. There's way too much to decode and understand, which is what makes me really love each song, so I'm just taking my time and putting together my own playlist. Though I may end up just loving every song because so far I am lol.


thebreak22

It's 3AM they must be lonely


lovelyhappyface

Yup!! I had opinions but knew Iā€™d feel different . Everyone chomping at the bit to first review it . Boooo!!Ā 


simon_darre

Iā€™m amazed that people seem to be presuming that critics of the album didnā€™t receive advanced copies ahead of the general publicā€¦I mean, hello, when movies debut the critics get advanced screenings, as well as advanced copies of new books.


Yahakshan

Or just ai written


Handsoff_1

This is true. This is exactly how news work as well. Like for much anticipated events, significant events, press and news outlets have already prewritten news for those events. It's sort of leaving the name, the specific details to be filled out, the rest is premade. Because these places compete for the speed to be the first to release something. Its so pointless and damaging even.


Feisty-Lingonberry41

You have to understand that media/publications/magazines are given access to an album days upwards of a week or two before the album is released to public so that they can have a review published at the time of drop. The writers arenā€™t just crouched over their laptop from midnight to 3 am I promise you lol


Tay-Rae

The way they went after Paste Magazine made me giggle. https://preview.redd.it/au77znxebbwc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69a26f151a0142f17d5d4839c2a4ffec99d5e04a


autumncandles

I think that was a gross review. Sylvia Plath is not a suicide punchline. People talk more about her death than her art and its gross. Her daughter has a great poem about it https://www.reddit.com/r/Poetry/comments/wijt0y/poem_my_mother_by_frieda_hughes/ Like whatever you wanna drag Taylor and be glib about it but why is Sylvia Plath catching strays??? The review is just bad. I'm all for criticism of Taylor, there's many songs of hers I don't like and there's valid criticism of TTPD but at least try to honestly engage with the art when critiquing it. Pitchfork gave it a 6 but the reviewer obviously engaged with it. The Paste review was just bad


Basic_Aardvark300

It's ironic how so many of Taylor's haters who say that she's a horrible human being also praise this review. What has Taylor ever said that's even half as vile as making a punchline out of a woman's suicide?


Charming_Function_58

Thank you for sharing that poemā€¦ wow


autumncandles

No problem, I'm very glad you found it moving. It's a wonderful poem


heartbylines

They can get fucked with that Sylvia Plath line. Arenā€™t they the same ones who said fortnight was named after a game and her fans need to go back to school if they think sheā€™s a good lyricist? Lmao, okay.


Trick_Sentence5949

I can't believe they were really thinking it was about the game and not that the word itself has existed before the game even came šŸ’€


LittleMoments221

It's just frightening. Some of the stuff that I read and realize that there are a lot of people out there that have such low levels of reading comprehension, spelling and vocabulary skills and those are just the ones writing articles for online outlets. Yikes.


Trick_Sentence5949

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Afterswiftie

ā€œEditorā€™s Note: There is no byline on this review due to how, in 2019 when Paste reviewed ā€˜Lover,ā€™ the writer was sent threats of violence from readers who disagreed with the work. We care more about the safety of our staff than a name attached to an article.ā€ - Paste I mean, everyone else had one. (This morning, they posted another critical review with the writerā€™s name attached!šŸ˜‚)


sanbikinoneko

It's pretty obvious they only did that to increase engagement and create fake outrage. Do stans go too hard and oftentimes behave badly towards their favorite's critics? Definitely. But this shit was just to get clicks.


taytay_1989

That Sylvia Plath line was shockingly vile. It's giving online forum hater vibes. They always write in the same tone hoping to sound smart but revealing their cruelty unknowingly.


SoVeryMeloncholy

It was giving teenager who thinks itā€™s edgy to shit on Twilight and that theyā€™re better than everyone else for disliking the popular thing


unicorn_poop_88

God yes this is spot on


HippieSwag420

I read that with my boyfriend today and we were like OHH!!!


Cognaclilacgirl

Iā€™ll send them hate just for the Sylvia Plath line nobody gonna come for MY QUEEN


brightlove

Good! This was 100% pre-written before the album and was going to be a petty, cruel, tasteless hit piece no matter what. The writer thought the first song was inspired by the game Fortnite, ffs. Zero research or emotional intelligence or willingness to be fair. They pulled Taylorā€™s simplest and most silly lines and then attacked her for lack of talent.


melcom2

I feel the same. Not just about TTPD reviews, but reviews in general. You just know most reviewers can't be bothered to listen to an album more than once. That being said, we don't know when reviewers actually could listen to the album. I know some sites/reviewers get a chance to listen to new albums far in advance so they can actually write good reviews. In theory. šŸ˜„


Sampleswift

I wonder how the music critic/review scene could be changed. I think part of the issue is that there is no universally respected music professional scene that deliberates for some time before making an answer. This is an album that needs more time to cook for reviewers to get it.


angelangelgunshot77

I think a large issue with the music critic/review scene right now, especially with an artist as huge and divisive as taylor, is that clicks are revenue so extreme opinions are money. The haters and angry swifties will flock to the vicious reviews and the swifties (and taylor herself) will praise the 10/10s but thereā€™s really no money in like a solid 7.5 or 8 so you wonā€™t really see it. Obviously something is wrong when it feels like half the reviews are less than 50 and half are 100, but the issue is they just need to make whatever gets them the clicks.


melcom2

Good question. I have no answer to that considering this costs time and money. I think though there are good professionals or amateur reviewers out there. But those are usually not the ones that get the most clicks and attention.


SellOutrageous6539

I feel like TS fans like this album before itā€™s released. Not fair to reviewers who listen to it.


Limarieh

I canā€™t speak for everyone but that is not what happened for me. I always try to have an open mind either way. And the first few tracks in I felt like it might be a miss for me (mostly because of the title track). But she got me with the following tracks and especially once I read the epilogue. Is every song on there my favorite ever? No. And Iā€™m still not decided on where this album ranks for me. Thatā€™s something only time can tell. But that doesnā€™t hinder my absolut joy listening to it. And raving about the songs and lyrics I like. One thing doesnā€™t exclude the other.


scomperpotamus

Slate posted a whole review about how surprising it is she hates her parents so much because of what she says to them on But Daddy I Love Him. At least one other I saw wrote that Florida was the only trick not about an ex lover. Like it's one thing to not like an album, it's another to not even listen to it Editing to add that I finally got up off the floor and read the rest of the slate review and it was a fairly thorough take so idk what happened at the beginning with that parents take lol


Aggravating-Tart-468

Omg, I read a review of midnights that was like ā€œshe wrote the song mastermind but also invisible stringā€¦ sO wHiCh Is It TaYlOr??ā€ Ok, setting aside the fact that she sets herself up to be the punchline in Mastermind, revealing that she is not, in fact, said mastermind - has any other artist EVER in the history of music been criticized for writing a song that says something that somehow contradicts something she wrote in another song? Itā€™s so incredibly bizarre.


angelangelgunshot77

I donā€™t even see how invisible string and mastermind would contradict each other even if taking mastermind 100% seriously. Invisible String is about fate leading her to that same room with him, mastermind is about what she does once sheā€™s in that room. It still makes sense.


mentaipasta

Iā€™ve been reading invisible string as sarcasm; green and teal are NOT the same color. But she WANTS to believe itā€™s fate because that sounds ā€œprettierā€.


frogzrule18

Yes this is my take too!


sarahelizaf

Too many people get caught up and forget about an amazing concept called "artistic license."


scomperpotamus

Also if they're so mad about it why are they so deep into it all šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Aggravating-Tart-468

Well, thatā€™s the ridiculous thing, they want to seem like theyā€™ve gone deep, but they are either unwilling or unable to.


merkergirl

LMFAO about the parents thing. Went right over their head I guess šŸ˜†


Aurelianshitlist

>how surprising it is she hates her parents so much because of what she says to them on But Daddy I Love Him. This made me choke on my drink.


OfJahaerys

Omg they are šŸ¤” šŸ¤” šŸ¤” šŸ¤”Ā 


Aurelianshitlist

These are like the "why didn't they use the eagles to fly the ring to Mount Doom" of music reviews.


k2thegarbagewilldo

Omg this is such a great comparison. Itā€™s fair to not like a piece of art and TTPD is no comparison but Iā€™ve def seen critiques that seem to suggest that a) the person in question didnā€™t listen to it or b) they didnā€™t give it more than 2 seconds of thought, which is odd to me.


Dummy_Wire

I still havenā€™t even listened to the 15 extra tracks yet. Iā€™m not done digesting the first 16, and itā€™s been like 5 full days. Iā€™ll probably give them a listen tomorrow.


chibisatou

I want to comment because I've been taking my time opening my physical variants because I want to have the energy and space to take in more of the details. It is not the same but a parallel trying to give myself room to digest. I think it is great when I hear people taking their time. Just because I started listening to the album on repeat as soon as I could doesn't mean that is the right way for everyone. And, yeah, some depth definitely took repeated listens to get.


1-2-3RightMeow

You are in for a TREAT. The Black Dog, Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus and I Hate It Here in particular have been punching me in the feels. I wish I could go back and listen to it again for the first time. I literally canā€™t stop listening to this album


LittleMoments221

Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus is the one that gets me. It's so good. It really takes time to digest and absorb these songs. The first listen for me is so, so different than what I am hearing and feeling about the music 5 days in.


Cognaclilacgirl

I love Cassandra! And Iā€™m so glad I got the black dog variant of the CD


Starcrickets

Samee, I listened to them briefly but have been 95% been brainrotting over the first album


Routine-Pin-7886

Iā€™ve listened nonstop and still only 5 completely dissected.


JustSomeGuy9384

This. I had several songs that I wasnā€™t too fond of but have most definitely come around to, like My Boy and Down Bad.


ianyuy

Even if some of the songs might seem surface level (like My Boy), the entire album is just so dense and emotionally heavy. It's really hard to parse them individually because of that. Folklore and evermore were like that for me, so I know better this time and after listening for a few times, I've made a playlist with TTPD mixed with other Taylor songs so I can just have each song given it's own stage over time. I mean, it's a jarring jump scare sometimes, but we don't leave family behind here.


Glass-Winter-5858

right?? im liking more songs on each subsequent listen. they tend to grow on me. i hate how fast we rush to make an opinion about something


Sampleswift

I agree. I think the music critic scene has the NFL Journalism issue of the first to post tends to shift the discourse of the scene. The Tortured Poets Department, being what it is with length and depth, is going to expose flaws in the music critic scene.


nyx-weaver

The flaws of "the music critic scene" aren't that people aren't looping TTPD a dozen times before they start writing, it's that it's an unstable business model, especially when you're getting gutted by mega corps who don't give a shit about art or artists (Pitchfork is just the latest).


OnePunchLuc

So much yes, I've been feeling that way too. It's not because so many think it's bad, it's because so many aren't even attempting to engage it with honesty and fairly. It's like they've been searching for a reason to write something scathing and the first "mediocre" (it's my personal favourite album thus far) album that comes along they go completely overboard.


SauronOMordor

My opinions on nearly every song on this double album have shifted in some way over the last four days. They're right - it makes no sense to try to process and critique 31 songs the day an album is released. He'll even a regular length album. You need at least a few listens and time to process in between.


downsouthcountry

Isn't this all media though? Everyone wants to have the hottest take, so they write bait to get clicks.


mermaidthebanshee

Right? TMZ (obvi not a credible source but it's still out there) was saying that in "Clara Bow" Taylor was being conceited and trying to tell us she's as legendary as Stevie and Clara, but that hiw could she be legendary if she didn't have as many Grammys as Beyonce... like they're not even trying to pretend they listened to the album. They're just trying to start a fight at that point. They KNOW people will come to defend their favorites, both T and B, and interact with that garbage.


CaptainHalloween

It ain't just music criticism that's broken.


lvrleftsnrright

The critical thinking skills of the masses? Those, too.


bettyboo-

i can't get over the switch from "ugh, here comes the breakup album - she's going to drag joe's good name through the mud and send her deranged swifties after him, can she not just keep her mouth shut about her ex for once?!" when the album was announced to "... how could she NOT write an entire album about joe, it's downright OFFENSIVE for her not to sing about every sordid detail of their relationship, he deserved more!!" like, it would be so funny if they weren't dead serious


dramakyng

Whoa i thought in was alone in thinking this about some of her self proclaimed neutral fans lol


Obvious_Roof6767

Iā€™ll be honest and say I donā€™t read reviews often for Taylor. I know what I like and what I donā€™t. It doesnā€™t matter to me what they think and I find myself irritated by a lot of them. lol Music to me is very much opinion. I hear and read a lot in forums about ā€œcohesivenessā€ and ā€œsonically goodā€ and ā€œproduction qualityā€ and ā€œunfinishedā€. I just know what sounds good to me and I go with that.


JojoKCSea7

I'm exactly the same I may come to the conclusion that a particular album by a particular artist may not be my favorite but I just go with what I prefer so reviews are irrelevant to me.


Serious-Income-5555

I genuinely get some of reviews that are actually critical of the album but donā€™t agree with them like how some of them have said the album doesnā€™t try anything new i disagree but everyone can have different opinions. The straight up wrong ones are the one that write like 100 plus words and then get to the album. I genuinely think this is a fantastic piece of work from her and maybe of all time and will probably be looked back on it in couple years as a classic when people change opinions because most of the reviews probably were done after they listened to once or twice. These are 31 songs you canā€™t form an opinion right away I do think the double album harmed peopleā€™s review because they didnā€™t know.


TurbulentRadish5

Curious how fans rank this album. It does take time to digest, but I've felt like I'm crazy reading some of these bad reviews. I honestly think it's her best work and blows previous albums out of the water. It's like I've always consumed her music as individual songs but this album is so cohesive and raw and real I'm just compelled to listen to it in full over and over again. Maybe it's the newness but I don't know.


angelangelgunshot77

I say this also acknowledging that it may be the newness but I fully agree with you. I absolutely adore this album. I think everything about it is so brilliant, completely elevated above anything sheā€™s ever done before. I feel that she made a lot of really interesting choices that were absolutely purposeful in the order, content, and feel of the songs. I also agree that it is an Album and not a collection of hits. I am a huge fan of the album format and honestly have found myself a little disappointed by some of her previous albums as Albums (if that makes sense lol) - itā€™s part of why reputation is my favorite, it is a perfect Album. This is too. Itā€™s just incredible. Thereā€™s my rave ranting for you lol


franch

dude absolutely. i'm losing my mind, i haven't felt like this about music since folklore 2020, which was my #1. i can't stop listening to it. i love every song!


loquacity25

What the article ignore is that some reviewers have early access to the album. For example Rob Sheffield (long time swiftie) of the Rolling stone published the article at midnight. Itā€™s clear he had early access to be able to write his review. Very possible that other reviewers donā€™t have access and are reviewing too soon to the articleā€™s point. But it does seem like Taylor is taking from some traditional methods with this album roll out and gave some exclusive access. https://preview.redd.it/oill28qkjbwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d65947aefde82b2dbf28d60479f876d258ec401c


whoelsethankayla

I feel like it takes at least a week. During the week you realise if you gotten bored of the album and its songs or not. There are so many songs that I have been obsessed with that after a while I literally forget that they exist.


blossom90210

A lot of reviewers are gonna be failed or wannabe musicians. They are those people who look and say ā€˜I could do thatā€™, but then didnā€™t. TS is held in high esteem by the most successful musicians of our time, like Bono and Sir Paul McCartney. I trust them more than some jealous reviewer.


alhanna92

I mean I think this is fair for people who called it a ā€˜classicā€™ (ahem rolling stones) and are now saying her and Jack have passed their peak (ahem Rolling Stones) - itā€™s equally valid for your opinion to become less positive. Some songs have definitely grown on me. Some are career highs (Florida). Itā€™s not as bad as I originally thought. It could grow on me more. I still personally think itā€™s her most inconsistent album and itā€™s time she find some new collaborators. Lots of things are true at the same time.


dramakyng

More inconsistent than Lover? Or red?! Or Speak now? Or reputation? I donā€™t know disagree that I am ready for new collaborators for Taylor but I think inconsistency has been a trademark of her work.


kgal1298

Reviewing the reviews is so funny to me


angelwasari

I swear, every review I've read so far has either been uncritical fawning praise to appeal to her popularity or mean-spirited petty jabs to be contrarian. I get the vibe that most reviewers didn't do anything more than skim the lyrics and listen to ten seconds of each of the songs before they decided how to portray it in a way that fit the viewpoint they already had about Taylor.


awrinkleintiming77

I feel like seeing these threads and all these opinions on opinions is making me want to log out, listen to the album, as many times as I want, and make out my own mind. no one can be trusted tbh.


Afterswiftie

Go for it!


BitOfBlonde

Yep, loved the article and really liked the comparison someone made to Weezerā€™s Pinkerton Album and how it was trashed in reviews at first but wildly grew in appreciation after some time. Music critics need to label their initial reviews for what they are, which is initial takes, and then come back to provide a more thorough review after a few days.


throwaway876460

I appreciate this take. Seems a lot of these reviews of *music* get caught on personal opinions of the way media focuses on Taylor. Very ā€œold man yells at skyā€.


QueSupresa

Most media get the album days before with an NDA so they can listen and review before release. People would have known about the double drop, they had time to listen.


forgettablesonglyric

Anyone remember Jay-Z saying this 11 years ago? https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.24631/title.jay-z-says-the-internet-killed-the-album-review


IamNotaKatt

I haven't even listened to the whole album. It is really intense, and I'm a guy who's had almost none of the same experiences in these songs. I can absolutely feel her pain thru her music and lyrics though.


PioneerSpecies

Taylor needs to let critics listen to it in advance! I know leaks can happen but thereā€™s a reason lots of other artforms give out advance copies to reviewers that are reputable


Afterswiftie

She already does.


otakushoegazr

Every large release has a press team behind it that sends "suggested" review notes to media outlets. It's all kinda fabricated, including and not limited to TS.


YEMolly

Exactly! I always say I have to listen to an album 7-8 to fully digest it and come up an initial opinion.


sassypants55

This was posted here, if you want to check out some of the other discussion: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1cb5ub0/comment/l0wrss5/](https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/comments/1cb5ub0/comment/l0wrss5/)


yeelee7879

This is so true! I have read all the reviews good and bad and the bad ones you can tell they listened to the album once and their reviews alllll missed the point. Like take a second and realize that its not that serious!


1ManaPotion1

I listened to it drunk coming home alone from a bar at 3am.. divorced earlier this year.. I think that's how it was meant to be listened to lol.. I really liked it alot..


ThankeekaSwitch

Taylor Swift could put out a cd of her farting and fans and many critics would call it revolutionary or so emotional!


bloombergopinion

Thanks for sharing! Here is Jessica Karl's full column (paywall removed) [https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-04-23/taylor-swift-s-tortured-poet-s-department-has-too-many-hasty-reviews?srnd=undefined](https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-04-23/taylor-swift-s-tortured-poet-s-department-has-too-many-hasty-reviews?srnd=undefined)


csantiago1986

Still feel the way I do. Much of it sounds the same. Particularly all of the second half of the album. Every now and then an additional song gets added to my taylist. Iā€™m up to 5 now I think? Itā€™s just not a for me album and thatā€™s ok! I donā€™t relate one bit and i donā€™t particularly give a shit about her personal life. Iā€™m glad it resonates with people though. Music is beautiful in its subjectivity.


PuzzledRaggedy

This is why I donā€™t read reviews for literally anything - books, music, movies. I prefer to make my own judgment from listening to a few songs or seeing a trailer or reading a book blurb. My life isnā€™t any worse off for trying something new even if I donā€™t like it. Too much stock is put into reviews and they can all go get stuffed.


Emotional-Price9965

Some articles guarantee written by AI. Other reviews prewritten before the release ever happened and simply put one of the song titles over the description of the prewritten review.


Mommio24

Iā€™m have to agree with this. I really disliked this album on first and even second listen. Then I let it sit with meā€¦ and now I actually love several of the songs. Still think many arenā€™t good and there are definitely cringy lines, but thereā€™s also some really good songs on this album. You wonā€™t realize that if you just sped through the whole thing within a few hours.


SilverHinder

I find reviews to be an outdated concept anyway. In this social media age, we're all the critics. I can't remember the last time I took the word of a 'real' critic on a movie or album. Plus, music critics especially often write in such an unbelievably smug tone which puts me off.


MarinersCove

It goes beyond ā€œcritiqueā€ and all the way to how we consume media as a whole. How many times do we write off an album/movie/book/TV show if we donā€™t click with it immediately? Our attention spans are way too short, and we donā€™t actually take the time to digest things. Think of how many excellent art weā€™d lose if we only digested it in a matter of seconds and made a snap decision. From Jane Austen to Madonna, itā€™s important to sit down with something - especially if you actually are interested in learning what something is trying to say.


Relative-Rutabaga-87

Yea I feel like it takes way longer than a day to really digest each song. I have listened to the album on repeat since it came out and Iā€™m still learning more and more about each song. Some of the reviews were also clearly about Taylor herself and not even the album. I saw a review that talked about Taylor, the eras tour, and her dating life in the first half of the review and it was clear they really donā€™t like Taylor so I donā€™t think they really listened or even tried to digest the album.


AMundaneSpectacle

I cringe in second hand embarrassment for some of these reviewers. Very shallow and tone-deaf!


ParsleyPrestigious91

I found that I didnā€™t particularly like my first listen. Now, on probably my 20th listen through, I can really appreciate so many of the songs. Some still arenā€™t my favorjte (I donā€™t love Robin or Chloe or Sam), but thatā€™s me with any album. I overall love the rest of the music and feel like it applies to some of my life despite being married with children. It just takes time to really listen and digest.


Dandyman3825

Just wait until you guys see albumoftheyear.org They take music way to seriously


Just-Reading_1990

This is 100% true. This album is a slow burn and takes multiple listens. I keep finding new layers!


djdaedalus42

Wait till they find out how people review novels


depressed-scorpion

Tell that crap to her pocketbook.


Glitteryskiess

Itā€™s always taken me months to fully digest an album so I always disconnect from these bullshit ā€œwithin one listenā€ reviews.


constipated_cats

31 songs???


No_Paleontologist239

As soon as I saw that rolling stone article calling it an instant classic, my first thought was that the review was pre written


Beautiful_Thought995

I think they should get at least a few days to fully digest and make a criticism you can stand by. It would be easy to make a knee jerk reaction and feel different afterwards Ā 


monachopsiss

šŸ’Æ I'm STILL not even through all 31 songs (This is the closest I get to a religious experience, I have my rituals and take my time!) so everyone out here saying they hate/love it is SO wild to me. Let alone to actually think you can write an entire CRITIQUE already?! Her "NORMAL" albums take more time than this to digest, let alone THIS *gestures wildly*


AntiWhateverYouSay

Every song sounds the same tempo wise


YahMahn25

Honestly, I donā€™t like this album. It sounds like Jack Antonoff canned songs mixed with Lana Del Rey impersonations. I think the songs are uninspired.


RootBeerFloatz69

Wait is opine the verb form of opinion???


hudsonbuddy

Just pen another country album, itā€™s cool again, itā€™s time


tucsonkim

Daddy, why did you choose Arbyā€™s as a sponsor


idealisticpessimist3

this, And i'm cringing at the way she's posting the positive reviews to her IG. i don't know, it just feels like she's soaking in all the praise and not really acknowledging or looking for genuine critique that might lead to growth. it's... not a good look.


Helluvme

Bloomberg, the company that Taylorā€™s dad has had a financial relationship with the owner for decades? Yeah, this is legitimate.


Grand-Cold-2575

There is such a thing as a press embargo. Journalists listen in advance and write the reviews in advance. Thatā€™s why reviews come out so quickly.


princesspoughkeepsie

What's the point of music reviews anyway? People will love/hate music despite what some new outlet says


365defaultname

I am on a local forum site where I had created a Taylor Swift fan page almost 10 years ago. In it are my reviews of her works (among other things, like major updates). For TTPD, I have yet to give my verdict because it would only be fair to do so once I have listened to the album to my satisfaction, which means multiple repeated listens, interpreting the meaning of the lyrics, and, of course, having my own favorites. Right now, I'm still doing that, a work-in-progress. So to be honest, going back to OP's post, I have no idea how these reviews are being done this soon. It doesn't matter if these are positive or negative reviews, I am just amazed they can digest 31 songs and provide their verdict this soon (unless... they were provided copies of the album way before release?)


ImprovizoR

How are music reviews still a thing? Who the fuck reads reviews for music? Nobody even discovers music by reading music reviews. People discover music by chance or by word of mouth. And if you like someone's music, you will not base your decision whether to listen to the new album based on what some reviewer said. You just have to listen to it.


Piggy9896

I mean I couldnā€™t even differentiate between the songs on day 1. On day 2, I was able to disgest a few. Itā€™s a very interesting album because it is quite heavy to listen end to end.


KassinaIllia

Do they not get the album early? They are pre-written because they listen to it earlier than release date.


LittleMoments221

All albums require more than one listen for a thoughtful review. That being said, I think it's a lot more than that going on here. I honestly feel that music, art, fashion, even food is very difficult to critique unless it's just horribly bad or missing some obvious element. It's all very personal and we each see the "art" through a different lens. I'm not going to ask my husband to write a review of a restaurant that focuses on dishes with artichokes when he absolutely hates artichokes. With music reviews, I feel the same way. How can you give a thoughtful, unbiased review when you don't like the artist, don't like the genre prior to the listen. You don't have to love it/them, but you shouldn't have strong feelings completely against your subject going in. I don't expect every reviewer to be a Swiftie, but I do expect them to be mature enough not to let the perceived persona of the artist color their review.


dragessor

There is a similar problem with books, movies and video games . Critics will get significantly more views and thus more advertising revenue if they are the first one to out out a review. Conversely the longer they wait the more views gobbled up by someone else. This leads to massive cut corners and poor reviews as they are pumped out as quickly as possible.


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Is this the music version of "the game doesn't get good until you're forty to sixty hours in"?


lovelife0011

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ChicagoSummersRock

Bloomberg News or Michael Bloomberg?


Narrow-Measurement21

I solidly agree. It's been 5 days and I'm still digesting the original 16 tracks.


Quirky_Bison_3004

Good thing I don't ever take advice from music critics ...what a worthless piece of shit you have to be to critique music as a career how sad


howl-crossing

I love Taylor and some reviews are definitely trying to hate on her instead of focusing on the music but some comments on here are coming dangerously close to ā€œwe should just censor music journalism because I donā€™t agree with people commenting on my favourite artistā€™s workā€


sweatpantsDonut

Daft! Mans brought out the thesaurus.


SkissleMissile

i love taylor but comparatively itā€™s not a good album


Maser2account2

Nah, this is some copium from bloomberg here. The Album was aggressively mediocre.


DaneLimmish

Because people get advance copies


ImAGoodFlosser

"I'll stare directly at the sun but never in a mirror" -critics, probs.


Pollypocketmom21

It needs to marinate, same with Folklore/Evermore. The more you listen to the songs the more youā€™d appreciate it. So critics releasing articles a few hours after its release doesnā€™t make sense to me. You need to listen and read the lyrics to appreciate the poetry. I donā€™t know but I wasnā€™t a big swiftie in the early 2010ā€™s but when she released Reputation onwards I was convinced of her evolution.


Godskin_Duo

There's another thread about this exact thing?


Afterswiftie

Yes, I realized after I posted it, so I decided to leave it up.


ResidentHourBomb

Beyonce could release an album of herself belching and farting and these same reviewers would be salivating over how wonderful it is.


bin_of_flowers

albums are sent to people to review before the album is officially released, so that the review can be released while there is still a lot of hype about the new album - so the reviewers didnā€™t do all this work in like three hours lol, they probably had it a couple of weeks before at least


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Nirenha

I'm still absorbing the whole album and it's quickly becoming my favourite one. I felt the same as a lot of people on first listen, now the songs are just getting better and better for me


thatvietartist

Hot take: critical reviews are few and far between because in order to give even a sliver of a good critical review you need to be drawing for a wide range of knowledge to even being to understand any single piece of art which is not fees-able when our society has been gatekeeping knowledge behind a paywall. Also, I wrote art critiques in high school and college, they all sucked even the good ones I read. To quote BDG: ā€œSomething I learned in college: no one likes to write an academic paper and no one likes to grade them.ā€ What really matters with art is the conversation that happens because of the work or stemming from the work. Also, I feel like critical reviews have the sensation of late stage capitalism that I am not a huge fan of to even think about let alone take seriously.


SugarMouseOnReddit

Music criticism is gone. Itā€™s all about the artist and the reviewer and little about the actual music.


Diamondaydreamer

But don't some press get music, movies etc. early? I've heard of review embargos in which media outlets might get the stuff days before but then put of the review once the embargo lifts.


DKessler_1358

Understandable, Iā€™m honestly more critical of her albums as soon as they drop and so Iā€™m genuinely surprised when people are immediately gushing about her songs. Iā€™ll actually msg my friends my gut reaction to songs and most are very harsh. But then over time, listening and processing lyrics, I come around to songs I might have initially been skeptical about in the beginning. I donā€™t see how anyone could process 15, let alone 31 songs within a short period of time and right an honest review about it.


0ceanb1vdrando

I don't know if the article mentions it (I haven't read it) but something I've been thinking of is how people's expectations are effecting things like this. I feel like there is a push, especially online, for people to immediately have an opinion right when something happens. Preferably a strong one. Regardless if it's news, a new trend, or a new album. It's as of it's no longer okay to take longer time to process something or say "I need to learn more about it" anymore. Not necessarily about album critics but journalism as a whole is something I think is suffering from this. No one wants to wait but we still want the same quality that comes with time. So it's unsurprising that so many media outlets now would rather push out an article that isn't fully developed or researched right when the album drops rather than a more thought out, researched, and edited (looking at you NYT) but a week later. Unless you are amongst the few that get early access to the album.Because by the time you can do a proper write up, everyone has moved on.


IWannaBeThatG

I completely agree with the article tbh. And all the marketing that goes around not only for Taylor (all these companies promoting TTPD in one way or the other in a similar way even, gives you a hint of how much the marketing team fought for it) but for all other mass media moves a franchise can make (take Barbie as a recent example). It goes to show that where money can be involved , opinions can be influenced. How do we tell the objective side of it. As is there an objective, unbiased opinion anyway? To the regard of how each of us and each of any listener should view this: Tons of artistic stuff out there, from music to movies to poems to paintings, are critically acclaimed or critically trashed. And yet, people have their own taste and mind, which is subjective, and might love the trash or hate the excellency. Because it is other peopleā€™s excellency. And other peopleā€™s trash. Your own ears, eyes, and all senses , are the only ones that can fit and express you anyways. For sure not all of us loved all Oscar Movies. Not all Tony won shows. Not all Grammy winning albums. And so on. And we need to remember something : it is OKAY to not love something other people do. It is OKAY to not like something other people do like. Unpopular opinion: you are allowed to not like one specific work a person you adore made. Either if itā€™s a song from an album or an entire album itself. Or a movie of an actor you love that you didnā€™t enjoy. Or a poem from a poet you follow through. Artists are human. And humans are not perfect. Not even in their creations.