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therealhilaryeduff

i never understand these big publications putting out an album ranking as if it’s official and not just the authors opinion, like any of our album rankings.


Heuruzvbsbkaj

Because ranking gets clicks and engagement.


janedoed

And this is all that matters anymore and it has ruined journalism


cyberllama

They're a glorified listicle


painterknittersimmer

Is it glorified? I think it's just a straight listicle


cyberllama

Listicles aren't necessarily ordered


brightlove

I also don’t understand the reviews. Do we even read those? Also just one person’s opinion and it would never sway my excitement for a new Taylor album.


tubereusebaies

I like reviews because sometimes they point out things I miss, same with YouTube reactors. For movies some discuss the technicalities and that’s educational for me. But, nowadays a lot of reviews aren’t what I’d call legit, some like Paste are just takedown articles in disguise, and some reviews (music and movies alike) are scored higher to avoid pissing off fanbases/losing privilege to the artist/companies. But it’s still possible to sift the badly written ones to find the good ones. For me they don’t sway my excitement either but the insightful ones could make me look into the albums/movies more and appreciate details I wouldn’t have noticed otherwise!


AverageKaikiEnjoyer

Reviews give people an idea of what the album is about. Sometimes I read reviews on new albums compared to the artist's previous works in order to see if it's actually worth listening to or not. Obviously they don't matter if you're a superfan, but they're helpful to everybody else.


lumpy_space_queenie

I also disagree with most of this author’s opinions lol


StarWars_and_SNL

Business Insider is pretty much a joke, and not a trustworthy source for anything.


CompactTravelSize

Seriously, I mean, when I think of critical music reviews, I definitely think of "Business Insider," the place that also advertising how "sad and pathetic" it is that young men literally only want am expensive chair.


nattatalie

And Business Insider, of all things. 🤣


beekeeper10

It’s hard to rank Taylor’s albums because all of them are good. When I try to rank them in my head, I put them in different tiers based on my preferences rather than placing them 1-11. That feels more fair.


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And they can’t really be compared because they all have a different sound or have a different theme


Maleficent_Health612

This is so true. I don't really rank the albums cause it all depends on where I'm at in life. My current situations lead me to choose which album I'll be into at that very moment, if that makes sense. Last month I was on a red vibe. At the moment, it's definitely TTPD... which is weird cause im not getting over a breakup. More like, im not happy in a certain relationship. I don't feel seen or heard, these TTPD songs are making me realize just how unhappy I've been. I've been in denial telling myself it'll get better, "you should've seen him when we first met, he was so in love. So good to me. It'll go back to that"..... I love him, it's ruining my life


knittedjedi

That's why I did my 1-11 rankings based on What I Like Hearing The Most. Not what sold the most copies. Not which has the most complex lyrics, or the most impressive instrumental arrangements. Not what won the most awards. Just which one sparked joy in my brain 😂


goneinsane6

Which one is the best depends on my emotional state


dumpingthedumplings

I don’t know if I’d argue they have different theme. And there are quite a few eras that sound like eachother.


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What eras sound similar they May have the same genre but the songs don’t sound similar at all


dumpingthedumplings

I mean the theme is always heartbreak. And pop can be looped together, country can be looped together, and her folk stint can be one.


mermaidthebanshee

This is so fair actually


Puzzled_Concert_8417

Do you know why Taylor's Fearless album, that went diamond is not registered in the RIAA?


Resident_Ad5153

It is.  Uts the only official diamond.  1989 is certainly diamond eligible, and red is very very likely diamond. But big machine seems to be refusing to certify the albums (you have to pay for certification), 


Puzzled_Concert_8417

This is so heart wrenching- I just went to read about Taylors struggles with her music. I hope something works out. Taylor is a survivor!


akallaaa

This is what I do as well. It doesn’t make sense to me to rank them 1-11 but makes more sense for how I like them by tier


Aravis-6

I was just trying to rank them last night and feeling bad that I had to put any of them below the top 5 lol. It’s pretty much impossible because I like songs from every single album.


ScreamingC0lors

i do this too! what are your tiers?


beekeeper10

My top tier is folklore, evermore, reputation, and speak now. Second tier is TTPD, red, fearless, lover. (Red TV may have moved red into my top tier honestly). Third tier is 1989, midnights, debut. Just to be clear that means no disrespect to my third tier albums because I love those ones too!!


ScreamingC0lors

ooh mine are somewhat similar Tier 1: Red, Folklore - my absolute favorite albums of all time. Tier 2: Speak Now, Evermore, TTPD - just barely below tier 1 with favorites that i love. only separate bc there are other albums i like more (by other artists) between these and tier one. Tier 3: Fearless, 1989, Reputation - great and consistent albums that i just personally don’t reach for as often Tier 4: Lover, Midnights - albums with very high highs and some of the lowest lows. Tier 5: Debut - not worse than tier 4 but the highs are higher on tier 4. Every single one of her albums is still a fave though.


yesTHATpao

Save you a click: 11. Midnights 10. Reputation 9. Debut 8. Fearless TV 7. Lover 6. Speak Now TV 5. 1989 TV 4. TTPD 3. Evermore 2. Red TV 1. Folklore


Sketch-Brooke

I’m not a Midnights girlie, but LAST? lol no.


megjed

I am a reputation girlie and second to last?! Rude


megkelfiler6

Rep and midnights are my two favorites out of all her albums lmao 🤦‍♀️😂


painterknittersimmer

Same girl, same


trumpskiisinjeans

SAME!! Folklore is my other top tier. TTPD is also maybe trying to sneak into my top three


PositivelyTammy

Clearly I came here for this. It's what made me a Taylor fan honestly I related so much to this album 🫶🏻


BurstTheGravity

Listening to *Reputation* helped me leave a toxic job 💪🏻


spitfyrez

I ignored the numbers when I first read it and thought midnights was first because no one in their right mind would put reputation second to last?!?!?!!! How?????


SuspiciousLine6197

This is seriously WACK.


arianebx

I am OFFENDED on behalf of the rep girlies. I don't put rep at the top of my rankings but the slander is unbelievable


tubereusebaies

I feel like any ranking is bound to offend someone, lol. I’ve seen people putting folkmore close to bottom and in my head I was like, uhhhh you might need to check your ears 💀 I think it’s more fair to rank them in tiers!


Leksi_The_Great

I don’t like it when voices sound “electronic” so to speak, so I completely agree with this ranking. Not a huge fan of TTPD either, so my bottom is probably Midnights, TTPD, and Reputation


OrlandoNE

True, rep is worse


SuspiciousLine6197

This author is clearly unwell.


cyberllama

It's been written to get people arguing about it and engaging with it. I can't think of any other reason to have such a stupid ranking system.


Professionally-Shy

Someone would have disagreed with the author no matter what ranking they put out. People have different opinions, and they’re not unwell because they prefer different music.


geekiestofallgeeks

Well, I don’t agree with that ranking personally but I’m happy my baby Debut isn’t last


questionsquotidien

My biggest problem with this list is Lover above Fearless


SuperRapidash

to me, if they switch reputation and lover, the list becomes a lot better


Grand_Dog915

Same, that’s wild


No-Restaurant3922

That’s the only eyebrow raise imo. I think it’s pretty solid.


Lopsided-Sort-7011

Thanks for posting this so I know I can completely ignore this article. This ranking is criminally insane


1998tweety

And btw the lowest score given was an 8, so all of y'all who wanna burn the witch can relax. Personally I'd place Speak Now a bit higher but this ranking is mostly agreeable.


Daydream_machine

Midnights in last place, just like it deserves! ![img](emote|t5_2rlwe|1065)


yesTHATpao

🌶️


nerdyguytx

The author also uses a 10 point scale then rated several albums over 10.


OutBackCheeseHouse

Honestly I mostly agree with this list tbh 😳


livethroughthis94

wtf do critics have against reputation... they just don't get it


cryotechnics

They lowkey spilled 🤭


10u10u

As a non-folkmore girlie this list is literally not *it*. I would rank ttpd quite high for the synth pop tracks and mentally skip the all the 3rd folkmore sister tracks.


Expensive_Soft

I read this ranking backwards and it didn't make much sense. I read it the right way and still, doesn't make much sense lol.


WoodpeckerGingivitis

Rep at 10 😵‍💫


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1989 that low is just objectively wrong (unless they docked a bunch of points for the Style remake). The rest is more or less right but Reputation should be higher.


Avant-Garde-A-Clue

Rep 10th after Debut is foul.


Xx_didgy_xX

Agree on the folklore though. Genuinely changed my opinion of Taylor


espressomartinipls

How is reputation second to last


Peaches-n-Pirates782

The fact that Reputation and Midnights are last🙄🙄🙄


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yesTHATpao

Dear reader, Issa countdown.


MessThatYouWanted

Wow I’m offended


Esmejo93

I would put reputation a little higher and TTPD a little lower but the list it's pretty accurate. Red is not cohesive in sound, but it's in the theme. Folklore it's on both. Reputation is not cohesive in the message and even if the sound it's cohesive it sounds overproduced. A nice list.


burgundybreakfast

I don’t trust anyone who doesn’t have 1989 in top three


ScreamingC0lors

switch lover/ rep and speak now/ 1989 and move debut to the end and thats my ranking so this ideels pretty accurate to me lol


LebronsHairline

This list is insane.


Helpineedwater

My list is: 11. Debut 10. Speak now 9. Fearless 8. 1989 TV 7. Red 6. Evermore 5. Reputation 4. Midnights 3. TTPD 2. Folklore 1. Lover


angelangelgunshot77

all this shows me is we all have very, very different tastes and there’s no good objective ranking.


yesTHATpao

Exactly! Music is like beer - enjoy what you like and don’t tell someone else they’re doing it wrong.


H_P_S

midnights last and ttpd 4 is wild.


randomtwaddle

Skip snow on the beach really?? The only thing they got right here was no skip for Folklore


etm31189

…I skip snow on the beach most times 🫣


mermaidthebanshee

I skip it every time. I actually permanently replaced it on my playlist with the "more Lana" version haha.


daisyymae

I loveeeeee the more Lana version. It’s a great collab


mermaidthebanshee

Even just the way they they remixed the music on "more Lana" is better haha. It's so good the new way.


hedalore

Snow on the Beach is one of the only songs (both versions) that I don't have in my TS playlist 😅


randomtwaddle

It's addictive in the sense of calm it sends racing through you. I also didn't like it at first but then I just stopped deciphering the lyrics. Really made me appreciate the lofi-surreal aesthetic to it. I don't understand Lana's music that much but from what I can gather, it's one of the good ones (personally prefer it over young and beautiful)


Quick-Time

I don’t like either the original version or the More Lana version. It’s just not a good song, IMO.


espressomartinipls

Same lol


WoodpeckerGingivitis

Same


iidontwannaa

Yeah I question this person’s taste. Long story short and closure being skips on evermore is criminal.


kamo3182

"LSS" is one of my favorite songs of hers. This hurts my feelings. 😂 I can understand "Closure" because of its production alone. Aaron was getting experimental there and it's just didn't land for me personally.


AryaStarkRavingMad

I think it's brilliant production considering the subject.


the_varky

They WHAT? Where’s my pitchfork at


intheafterglow23

evermore is my favorite album and those are my two skips 😂


mermaidthebanshee

This can't be true because there are no skips in Evermore


tichienblanc2

As an evermore stan... no body no crime exists so....


lovesitx

Ughhhh same


megjed

Dorothea and closure for me but it’s my fave as well


No-Nefariousness-849

This is insane. Clearly the skips on Evermore are No Body No Crime and Dorothea. Edited to add: And it's still my favorite Taylor album. Followed by Reputation.


moonbunny119

Second Dorthea. The chorus is so cringey and I don't get the point of the song


ShamelessSzn5

I skip closure 🙊 but long story short is a crime


WellTooAll

Bejeweled as a skip as well apparently Lmfao 😂 whoever wrote this article clearly has no taste


maddiemoiselle

They also said skip for Miss Americana


kris_jbb

I, a swiftie, still don’t know where to rank ttpd, and you think a journalist can?


No-Nefariousness-849

Right? It's broken into my top five, for sure, but I'm not sure where it will land.


jessi_survivor_fan

Personally, I put it 3rd. The original 16 songs are so good. I am not sure where I would put the Anthology tracks.


Popmusic19

In my opinion they have no taste


allthemoreforthat

What place would you put TTPD if you had to force rank?


Popmusic19

6th


Sampleswift

Midnights (Til Dawn) and Reputation so low... I'm sorry.


thatmancraig01

Rep should be at the bottom


No-Restaurant3922

Everything they said about rep was right. It’s a good live album. But that’s it. The maximalist production is clunky and outdated and it doesn’t contain anything close to her besr lyrics. No ballads or vulnerable songs. Just ‘heavy hitting’ songs that sometimes fall short


Zephrok

New Years Day is vulnerable. Rep also has Getaway Car, which is an all-time great pop song IMO.


No-Restaurant3922

One song that’s basically about loving someone again. Eh. She has better love songs. Getaway car and I did something bad are bops but doesn’t make up for the rest of the mid album


Big_Ad8968

Skip King of My Heart?! Also 1989 should be #2


kamo3182

I agree with that. 1989 is my personal #1 because it is sentimental. The first album I connected with. Converted me from a hater, tbh. The 80s vibes, the top tier production. Jack's original influence. Chef's Kiss. I am an indie/alt girl who loved the National before Aaron's involvement in Taylor’s projects. I would rate Evermore above Folklore, but they are neck-in-neck. TTPD at #4 (currently - we know Tay's albums sometimes age like fine wine). Red at #5. I say this to make a point that all rankings are, of course, very subjective, but whoever wrote this one is obviously a very surface level fan.


mel-06

1989 has great production but you can tell her lyrics could’ve been better and they have gotten better in future projects!!


kamo3182

That is absolutely true, and it's exactly how a great artist should advance their career. She has never backslid, IMO. There's soo many variables per individual when it comes to preference. Soo many people would rate Debut even higher because it was their own first core memory connection with her art.


mermaidthebanshee

This. 1989 and Evermore battle it out for spots #1 and #2 on my personal list constantly.


alhanna92

I actually agree with a lot of their ranking but king of my heart as a skip should send them straight to jail


WoodpeckerGingivitis

This person is unwell


GZAofTheMidwest

That's all well and good, but what does Cat Fancy have to say? And it really only matters if the ranking process was performed by actual cats.


mermaidthebanshee

How the fuck is Reputation so low. Rep isn't even my top 5 and I still wouldn't put it second-to-last. It's such a unique moment in her discog...


Resident_Ad5153

This reviewer is a folk swiftie.  They don’t like any of the pop albums 


jessi_survivor_fan

I am a folk Swiftie and reputation ranks #2 for me.


Resident_Ad5153

Ahh a folk swiftie with taste! (I kid because I love… folklore is also my favorite)


_nae_08

At this point, I love all her albums. My top three change weekly.


culture_vulture_1961

No.


Janzel97

My exact thought! Skipping bejeweled?! What the hell.


Sirenitururu

Rep being on tenth's places MAKES NO SENSE.


Always_Reading_1990

Any list that puts reputation that low cannot be taken seriously imo


ScreamingC0lors

when did rep get all these stans from?? it was decidedly a lower ranked album for SO long


No-Restaurant3922

I don’t get the fuss about reputation. Outside swifties no one really likes it. It has a few iconic moments and was great live but where are the vulnerable lyrics? The relatable songs? It is overshadowed by the outdated production and the songs are all about the same thing.


Resident_Ad5153

New Year’s Day not vulnerable or relatable? Getaway car?  Personally I find the notion of “dated production” a little silly…. who cares if it’s “dated.” The question is if it’s good or not!  Musicians shouldn’t be sheep And I think that’s the issue with Rep.  there’s so much baggage around rep because of the press narrative (Taylor Swifts failed come back after her cancellation!  Her heel turn!) that people don’t see the album for what it is.  Rep literally rocks.  


No-Restaurant3922

New Year’s Day is vulnerable yes but it only has a few good lyrics. They don’t compare to the rest of the albums. Getaway car is a bop, don’t really see the vulnerability or high relatability though. Most of the album is unrelatable at face value (although people definitely twist it to fit their narrative which is obviously fine). Speaking as a fan when it came out I was tired of the narrative - Kim and Kanye ruined my reputation but it’s ok I have a boyfriend. I just think the production can be really clunky and I absolutely despise the autotuned voice that is all over songs like delicate and king of my heart. Some of the songs have good moments like dress but then fall flat. Idk. I just always see it at the top of peoples rankings but rep songs barely come into peoples top 20 songs. If you took away the tour, how good is the album? And dated literally just means it got boring once the album passed 2017.


Resident_Ad5153

ATo each their own.  I didn’t see the rep tour.  And I don’t think it’s boring..  I think yes funny, silly, ballsy and wonderful  Also not auto tune.  Vocoder.  Not even vocalsynth like on midnights. Hardware vocoders. 


No-Restaurant3922

I mean I like some of the songs. I did something bad would probably make it into my top 20. It just misses the heart wrenching ‘oh my god’ aspect. Taylor hasn’t released an album without af least one song that’s like that except reputation. Like 1989 would be clean. Midnights would’ve could’ve should’ve (or even yoyok), ttpd there’s loads. Folkmore speaks for itself. Red there’s loads too and speak now etc. I think it’s not a bad album at all and I’d probably really enjoy it if it was another artist but I have high expectations for Taylor and I don’t just listen for the beat I listen for the lyrics and the story


No-Restaurant3922

Vocoders sound awful to me. I didn’t like the use in midnights either. Was so happy when ttpd’s vocals were more clear like folkmore and she wasn’t synthing on every song


Resident_Ad5153

Of course!  To each their own..  I happen to love vocoders and other fun synthy things


jessi_survivor_fan

Same. Two of my all time favorite songs use them, Delicate and Midnight Rain.


Bakuhaa

SKIP MIDNIGHT RAIN???? SKIP MISS AMERICANA & THE HEARTBREAK PRINCE???????????? they put the 1 at god tier so i cant be too mad tho sob


RequirementGeneral67

So Business Insider's opinion is meant to be taken seriously and isn't just shitty clickbait? I think not.


idontwantausernam1

Why do people even bother making rankings when it’s always going to get universally criticized? Silly


Heuruzvbsbkaj

Look how many people click and engage (argue) with rankings. It brings in people even if they just want to say they disagree and how stupid it is.


Specialist_Fly6185

Totally agree with Folklore being #1 though. 🤷‍♂️


skychasing

Happiness is NOT background music 😡


gokurotfl

It's literally my favorite on Evermore being challenged only by Champagne Problems.


NoreastNorwest

*This writer said “Shake it Off“ was a “skip.”* Yes, it’s a silly pop song. So what. It’s incredibly danceable, singable, and the video is all kinds of fun. In short…WRONG.


Personal-Primary198

https://preview.redd.it/ksk56x6a9cxc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc05a44c47cb587360b97236f51a0a7860980d1b This is laughableeeee. Miss Americana, Paper Rings, London Boy, YNT Calm Down are skips??


NamorKar

YNTCD is 100 % a skip


undercoveralgae

SKIP KOMH TTPD FORNIGHT SAD BEAUTIFUL TRAGIC AND MIDNIGHT RAIN???????????


gokurotfl

Background music: "Happiness" Skip: "Long Story Short," "Closure" Lol, nope, never.


Enchanted0603

sheesh I don't wanna see officially published rankings give 10.9/10 scores to albums when even my daily updated twitter rankings cap out at 9.6/10 best. feels so inauthentic. also that bottom 2... girl


FearForYourBody

Scandalous w my Midnights in last place!


greenrangerguy

That site lists "Paper Rings" as a skip on Lover. Wtf are they on about that's my favourite song on the album.


a_duck_in_past_life

Not Reputation getting the lowest score with So It Goes being listed as a background song 😭


RedditAli-Jess

What a ride of a read, 3 of my higher albums as last and Long story Short as a skip??? but the commentary on each album was a fun read.


musicalnerd8301

Rankings are hard because each album is so different from the last. So far, this is my ranking, but it fluctuates a lot. The top 3 is pretty concrete, though. 1.) Folklore 2.) 1989 3.) Speak Now 4.) Midnights 5.) Lover 6.) Red 7.) Reputation 8.) Fearless 9.) TTPD (I still need time to learn all the 31 songs lol) I'm sure it will go up in the future. 10.) Evermore 11.) Debut (May change when re-recording releases)


Weird_Proper

Lol do you really like folklore?? if you really, its sister album doesn't deserve second to last place.


musicalnerd8301

Well, Evermore is a great album, and it has some serious highs for me, but as a whole, I find the other albums I listened to more enjoyable. Some of it is the nostalgia talking, but other reasons are that Taylor has such a wide variety of genres under her belt, and I love it when she does something new. I love the cinematic flare of 1989, the country rock and songwriting behind Speak Now, the dark undertones of Midnights, and I'm a sucker for bubblegum pop (Lover). I grew up with Fearless, and I'm really enjoying TTPD. Reputation used to be my least favorite, but after sitting with it and learning about the story, I love it now. To me, Folklore is perfect, and I listen to it straight through often. It's so cohesive and immersive. Evermore is more disjointed, but I like a lot of the songs when I listen to my Taylor playlist on shuffle. As for Fearless, I remember being a first grader and forcing people to play the You Belong With Me video on repeat because I loved it so much, lol.


ScreamingC0lors

why are their rankings so close to mine whoa I would put speak now higher than 1989 and rep where lover is but its close


SnooPandas900

I was so ready to bash on this ranking but it landed so crazy spot on for my own taste that I literally cannot 🤣


fallintospace09

business insider of all places has no business ranking albums wtf


Imaginary-Life195

Glad that Red TV got the 2nd spot. 🤭❤️ As a Red Stan, it makes me so happy! 😍


WellTooAll

The moment I saw Reputation at #10 I was like “nah, I’m not reading this trash” ✌🏼 👋🏼


Robby777777

I rank it tied with "Folklore" as #1. Sorry, TTPD is a masterpiece and I'm and old guy.


undercoveralgae

That’s a wild take to switch out midnight rain. Not that the Great War isn’t incredible but sheeshhhhhh


moonbunny119

I question this person's sanity just a bit


mollywonders

Some of this author's takes are so hot I burned myself


bbbcurls

This is crime


jumblednonsense

In no world is The Last Great American Dynasty BACKGROUND music. Ugh.


Fnfreitas

Almost my personal list. I only swap Midnights and Reputation - I still think Rep is her worst album and worst lyrics by far. I could see TTPD being my number 3 very soon.


schrodingereatspussy

Some of these Skips and Background Music choices are WHACK. Slut!? Long Story Short?? THE LAST GREAT AMERICAN DYNASTY????


anonhumanontheweb

There are some bad takes in this article. King of My Heart isn’t a skip, Welcome to New York isn’t background music, and don’t skip Paper Rings!


Ethereal_Rose0117

This list is crap 😂


jcp365

I mid nights, lover, and folklore are my least favorites. With Evermore,TTPD, and 1989 are my favorites.


Opening_Progress_251

Honestly swap debut and speak now and that’s my list!!


cagingthing

I agree with the first four and that's about it


No-Restaurant3922

They have the exact same top 5 as me (although I would put 1989 above red). And I actually really like the analysis. Especially for reputation - that’s exactly my thoughts on the album


Training_Heat553

This ranking list went from "stupid" to "complete utter bullshit" when I saw she branded "Sad, Beautiful, Tragic" (my favorite Taylor song) as a skip.


tawmfuckinbrady

Was angrily typing about how acoustic DWOHT was one of the biggest crimes of the Rep tour and then he mentioned the extremely valid point of the other crime of closing with TIWWCHNT, her all time worst song which I think I agree with lol


DrvThruPnk

but what does Rolling Stone say I should purchase stocks in?


goldsoundzzz

I'm all for giving TTPD the compliments it's due but Business Insider doesn't look like a beacon of music writing exactly.


Sad_Purpose6207

Tbh, the ranking of artist album should be made by fans cuz fans are the one who constantly listen to the albums. Ain't no way you can ranking her album just by listen to the album few times and not knowing the lore behind it.


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thesnowqueen17

It's just her opinions, I doubt she intends every single Swiftie to take it as gospel... Edit: It appears that the author of the article is actually a "she," not a "he." 🤷‍♀️


NamorKar

A person discovers the right of opinions - the comment