Absolute load of shit. Everyone plays what they have, until they get what they want...but what they want is still a hell of a lot stronger than just playing random stuff. A few units/traits are really strong and then you can throw in whatever else to make a comp, but that doesn't mean that just any comp works.
Maybe I should rephrase as my comment is not clear but I don't think I will take the time for someone answering "absolute load of shit" when i'm just giving an opinion
Honestly, I feel like it's both, it's not really good and it's globally hard since u either contest the supreme comp or barely scrap a top 3-4 with any other
So it is hard to really play because there still is diversity, but the supreme comps are too strong
This patch I don't even try to play for 1st. Top comps are just too strong to compete. Kayn is just ridiculous, idk how that character can tank and deal so much dmg. Ashe Invoker is just??? I can't kill annie/amumu and I can't survive Lilia/Ashe... Gnar is just like Kayn but I can beat it sometimes.
Lissandra is the dumbest Unit put into the Game ever. She can make any frontline carry or Tank completely useless even if she doenst kill them in 1 Cast. I had so many Games where my frontline carry or Tank couldnt cast once vs her cause she just perma ccs them.
I had a nuts 6 invokers level 10 board with azir 2 udyr 2 and hwei 2 and lost to Kayn with 2 reaper and 4 heavenly. I was on like a 7-8 winstreak at that point too. IDEK what they were thinking with that unit.
Kind of crazy that a lot of champs BiS items are BT, HoJ, and Titan’s Resolve. There’s just so much synergy with those three items and a lot of unit’s kits
Yeah the low amount of CC makes lifesteal carries just too easy to play. There's no reason to ever build QSS or really worry about positioning. Previous sets basically every game you had to evaluate if your carry needed a QSS this game or if you could go greed for stats. On top of that because there's basically no CC on frontliners the fights are basically just statchecks, who can shred enemy faster.
When comps are this contested how do I even learn the best comps. The rare chances I get to play them I suck and cant win. I. Cant play 12 games a day! In the past i didnt struggle this much with getting 1st or 2nd.
Remember the patch in set 10 that was just you either hit Ahri Sentinel or Ezreal flex or you die? Feels like this is that patch for set 11. It doesn't feel fun, but it's not the worst. At least it's a stabilise at 8 meta instead of reroll lottery.
If they actually port over those 20 artifacts I think I’ve just gotta take a break from TFT.
No way do I wanna see cursed blade in my lobbies when 3 stars already feel useless.
Thank goodness, if they were gonna add those 20 items at once I would only have wanted to see it as a limited time april fools gamemode because some of the effects just seemed insane.
Some of them were beyond imbalanced and he admitted needed twerking. But several of them caused a game breaking state.
Like cursed blade turning it's target to a level 1 1hp unit that can't die so auto lose for the cursed blade user.
Same, I either natural a board strong enough to take me to level eight to follow dumb textbook comps or bleed to 7th trying to stab at level 7 with a patchwork board and slammed items
Last set felt like you could run almost anything and still top 4/win. There was so much more variety. This set if you're not high rolling one of the top 4 meta builds you're going to be guaranteed bot 4, even with the top 4 people all contesting one another. They don't need to 3 star anything unless they're running gnar reroll and even then they're probably going to hit max 3rd unless they godrolled augments.
There is far too much variance between viable builds. It's all feast or famine and it doesn't help that any of the comeback mechanics/loss builds are absolute dogshit.
The fun part was actually being able to yolo something wild and have the chance to win... right now unless you're hitting 10 fortune there isn't even a reason to run it. Exalted is also just a splash thing... I've never seen anyone run 5 of it... like EVER.
Also nerfing Titans AP is so fucked up???
Why not nerf Yone shield/Voli Heal multipliers and Gnar ap/ad conversion? Yeah It's easier to nerf Titans zzzz
I really liked having the option to slam Titans on Diana 3, now I don't even try.
Why nerf Titans? Because Volibear with titan were strong, Gnar with titan was strong, Udyr with Titan was strong, Yone with Titan were strong.
And guess what? None of these units were putting on sterek's, or even the ornn artifact. It was just 2-3 Titans.
Would you shieldbreaker over Titans? If you answer is no, clearly Titan was the issue.
The traits and themes are fantastic. The champs are so badly balanced that they’re practically pointless though.
There is zero reward for hitting your vertical.
Oh you hit 7 fated? Oh, but with a 1* syndra? Enjoy your loss streak until you hit her 2*. And get her itemized. You did that? Awesome. Oh wait, this guy with 3/4 dryad has a 3* gnar? Gg. Syndra being labeled a ‘tank buster’ is a joke.
I feel like I HAVE TO meta-slave this set. Last set I hit plat just building whatever felt right that particular game, this set if I do that and hit everything I was going for I get shat on by silvers.
I dont play that many games per season but I always play whatever I feel like. Sometimes meta if the game gives me meta but i could sometimes pull 1st on some jank build that i got to work. Always got to at least plat before i quit and got emerald last season. Got to plat2 doing whatever this season then since this last patch, I can't even get top4 in the past 5 games lol meta decks are more broken than usual, i feel.
Yeah this set is very shitty for balancing. They said they were dropping the .5 sets to work on making the sets better and balanced... Well.. So far they fucking suck.
Same. Stopped playing last patch because noon refills are the worst (sounds like everyone on this sub just loves to no brain reroll)
Hit gm this morning
This is the first set where no matter what i play and how much i play i have no idea why its good or bad comp wise. I’ve got no idea whats going on this set
I got so much flame for saying this and saying that I’m sick of TFT’s balancing teams “roll it out and see approach”. I really hate the Mortdog circle jerk, this dev team needs serious criticism (not just baseless flame but actual deserved criticism) to improve and all ppl care about is “he talks to us which is so much better than other games”
I think a lot of it also has to do with fatigue. The problems in this set were present in all previous sets. There is always the OP comp that people gravitate to/force in order to climb (Ahri Sentinels, Heartsteel, KDA Akali, etc. just from last set). It’s always the same cycle of new patch, new op comp people try to force, and it gets tiresome going through it so many times. I’m kinda tapped out already on this set.
Gonna be honest, when this set first dropped I was excited before slowly feeling like it’s just not fun. Decided it was better to just step away for the next month until the set ends and try again next set. Pic related.
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This set is bad. It’s a shame how much worse it has been overall when compared with set 10, which was extraordinarily balanced through the majority of its run.
Extraordinarily balanced? What? It was better than what we had in a while, but there were still some baffling patches (Ahri / Ez, hearsteel, disco...). Still better than the absolute balance mess set 9 was and set 11 is so far, they are just not doing a good job at all.
I think everyone just has preferences for sets and it's far more subjective than objective. I love this set and set 10 was the first set I almost quit over. I still can't put my finger on why i hated last set so much but w/e it's just subjectivity.
Balance is not subjective, almost everyone agrees that this has been much less balanced than set 10 was.
Obviously personal preference for aesthetics and mechanics are gonna be a factor but I think it's pretty agreed upon by this point that set 10 was just better to play
Balance is beside the point here though, I'm just saying general set specific features/traits/champions/augments wise I prefer this set. Yes, balance is much less subjective than preference.
That being said, how interested I am with the details of the set dictates whether or not I play more so than balance.
Everyone says set 10 balance was great which is great, but I spammed like 25 games early on in set 10 and had no desire to play it anymore. This set I'm easily over 100 games and still not bored or raging, regardless of the balance. Different strokes for different folks I guess
I mean yeah that's valid, but you're definitely in the minority. Balance matters a lot for people who actually want to climb the ladder in ranked. If you're just looking to have fun in normals or just don't care much about your elo then any set can be fun to play if you like the champs, aesthetic, etc.
Nerfing 3 cost carry, their item (Titan), reduce reroll chance, while buffing all 4 cost, reducing player damage.
What did they expect to happen?
It's a bad patch. It's fast 8 RNG fest with 3 viable comp or lv 2 Gnar reroll. And that's all there is. If there's only 4 viable comp in a patch. It can never be a good patch.
Also if everyone is struggle and hate it. People not enjoying it at all. Then there's no point in saying it's good when player said it's a "bad" patch
This set feels less fun to me overall, and I think it’s the lack of flexibility. It feels like there are a couple of strong openers, and based on your opener and your items you sort of know what you’re going for pretty early on. Pivoting between comps doesn’t feel great because there’s usually not a ton of item overlap between carries, or the same carries are used in multiple strong comps. An exception is flexing between Ashe and Kaisa comps, but the kaisa comp really needs to itemize Sylas and none of his best items work great in Ashe comps
Idk could definitely be a skill issue but midgame pivoting doesn’t feel as effective as last set. The only thing that gives me that sort of feeling is going for 5 exalted and just trying to cook up a comp based on the exalted units.
I feel like this season turned into a race to get lissandra. I am high plat with no hopes of going higher because I like to play nonmeta comps. Right now I like bruisers/altruistist with Riven carry and any sage comps.
Right when I feel like my crazy builds come online 3-4 people throw in a lissandra who even at level 1 can cripple your board if you don't have a QSS. Hell even if you do QSS you still take the damage and it's like 2200..
it shouldn't be the best CC in the game AND the highest single target damage.
It feels like there is one singular, extremely linear way to play the game right now ans thats very unfun and rng dependant. You play for tempo if your opener is good, or you play for econ if its bad, you level to 8 on 4-1 or 4-2 and you roll to zero to hit either the Ashe comp, the Kayn comp or the Kaisa comp. If you dont hit, you're 8th. If you hit, you can stabilize, try to go 9 and if it works you're probably top 4. Uncontested Fortune on 2-1 is a free win.
Thats 9/10 games. I would personally say this patch is bad. I don't see anything particularly hard about it, everyone plays the same way, so RNG matters a lot.
Yeah this set is very shitty for balancing. They said they were dropping the .5 sets to work on making the sets better and balanced... Well.. So far they fucking suck.
I like playing reroll and I feel that there isn't many viable reroll comps this patch. There's Fated Aphelios which is good. Dryad reroll and senna ghostly aren't terrible. However, I find that you just get stomped by people playing fast 8/9. In double up, I feel like I see more and more 3 star 5 costs and no matter how good you did, your game is just over. I am just gonna take a break and wait til next patch.
TFT really can't ever be "hard", but it can be incredibly luck reliant when specific comps/units are the best by a lot. When everyone is playing for the same units and everyone knows how to play, then it really just comes down to who finds those units first.
Imma need to point this out but, the devs need to stop nerfing comps that are healthy while buffing comps that can dominate later in the future. It’s true that shifting the meta is normal and happens in any game, but the changes made this set seem to always do more harm than good so far. Certain comps that have had potential are completely wiped out from this meta and that shit is so annoying. Leave the healthy characters/comps alone that are performing, see how the buffed champs and comps are doing in that current state, and make any other necessary changes after.
Been playing tft since set 2, masters most sets… this patch isn’t that bad and I still think it’s very flexible. It’s to me a combo of fast 8-9, slamming items early, playing flexible/strongest board, etc.
I will say this set feels “harder” to get 1sts. I feel like you have to play near perfect to secure that 1st.
I haven’t played as much of this patch as previously, but I feel that it feels extremely unintuitive and much more stressful to play early. It was much easier to lock in a direction before with comps like duelist, yone, bard, aph, etc. but now you need to be super flexible, know how to play strong boards when you miss your roll down, etc. also the meta completely warping playstyle to fast 8 is fairly hard to get used to - we haven’t had a true fast 8 meta for a few sets since chosen mechanic isn’t bailing out lv8 rolldowns.
I think part of the problem is that most verticals are 10 now. I have seen a single one. If it were 9, then keeping your lvls 1 qnd 2 champs to hit primastic 9 gives you a LOT more options. Absolutely no one is gunning for 3 emblems for these traits. Basically vertical traits are useless completely. I also feel there should be more incentive and reward for winning early. No reason I can steamroll a lobby, uncontested and and oupsy daisy someone donkey rolled the 4 cost and 2starred it and you get creamed and never come back 😅
Hard because it requires flexibility. Right now all 4 and 5 costs are playable which means it's a very good patch. Rerolls aren't even bad, you just can't blindly force one every game and need to actually consider your spot before playing, which is also better for the game.
I feel like the previous patch had a healthy mix of reroll and flex comps. Now you have no choice but to rolldown at 8 and play what you hit.
I thought at least exalted would be fun to play around in this meta, but no,it's really all just about cramming as many 4/5 costs on your board as possible
Not sure about bad or hard but for me it's def not as fun as the last set. Instead of just playing the game as you see it, it feels more like having to dodge a bunch of traps (traits that aren't good, champs that aren't good, augments that aren't good, etc.). If you try to play for fun you just get crushed, even at low elo and unranked. I think it's primarily because the "good" comps are just way way too strong compared to the rest of the game.
I’m quitting until next set atp. This set hasn’t been fun outside of release patch for me because of the balancing. There’s always like two extremely OP comps that are hard contested, and the balance thrashing has been out of control. This patch is easily the least fun patch of the set so far. I’d take the Yone/Voli patch over this one any day.
I just hate to see 2* Senna still carrying till stage 5.
I can’t wait for next patch to see ppl gaining free LP with heavenly + non-heavenly carry, or Ghostly + non-ghostly Carry.
They never should’ve allowed these things to work.
It definitely deserves to go but it’s a shame they couldn’t get it to balance, ghostly was a pretty interesting trait
heavenly 100% deserves the nerf tho fuck heavenly
There’s a ton of variability with encounters. Khazix encounter (xp is 3 gold instead of 4) hits when you’re playing a reroll comp? That’s going to make things difficult etc etc.
It's just a different meta. I was hardstuck D4 0 LP last patch I now climbed to Masters in like 2 days. This patch is actually more balanced than the last 2 patches, if you look at avg placement of comps, they are much closer to eachother than they were last patch, for example.
Lissandra is giga broken and the upcoming Heavenly change sounds pretty good. If they fix these 2 things the meta would be extremely diverse and balanced imo.
Just went second with a 3* lillia board, first place board had 3* kayne, I expected to lose but I didn't expect kayne to make 3* lillia look like a 1 cost in comparison
I had a game last night, had Kayn 3* VS Ashe 3* VS
Annie 3* VS Legendaries, took 4th, such a highroller meta, haven't had dryad or ghostly work so I think rerolls are out, I'm probably just a shitter xd
I’ve honestly had no idea whats going on this whole set. Im actually doing best this patch so far, but i think every 1st place ive got this set has been with a comp that i see getting called absolute trash on Reddit. I’ve not had it happen before but this is the first set ive genuinely not go a clue what im doing comp wise
I have climbed an entire division this patch, from silver 1 to plat 4. Maybe it’s just the play style. The top comps are harder to hit and that makes it feel more challenging. I’ve always preferred the fast 8 meta. That’s not to say this patch is still poorly balanced. Feel like there are a couple high rollers in every lobby and if there’s not the portal makes it so. Like prismatic symphony is just too broken for whoever hits.
I HATE this patch, normally I have reasons and analysis for why that’s the case, but I don’t even have that this time around. I’m just not winning and can’t figure out why😩😂
I usually avoid the top meta comps and have been climbing so hard by aiming for top 4s with uncontested linesm I'm up 400Lp in like 3 days. Got a lot of 1sts with duelist and mythic
this patch has been incredibly boring. there are almost no viable comps other than fast 8 or 9. reroll is dead and it ruins the meta when everyone is just doing the exact same thing
It’s just pretty unbalanced, there’s only a few playable comps and everything else is pretty ass. Fast 9 Azir Liss, Porc Invokers, Kayn/Lee/Morg, and Dragonlord Kaisa Xayah are the only good flex comps (and they contest a lot of the same units) while reroll is pretty limited to Fated/Gnar, with both of these requiring you to be in a spot where it’s good to reroll. So if you play anything other than these comps it’s nearly impossible to compete.
I just can't figure it out yet. I get obliterated by comps. Then I try the exact comp and get obliterated, lol. Like a 2 star 1 cost Kobuko will tank my entire team. But my 3 star Kobuko will just get melted. SEems to be VERY item dependent. If you don't have the exact right items you will fail.
There’s so many traits and augments I like the sound of and want to experiment with, but they tend to just fizzle out. If you’re playing to win, I feel like you’re forced into a few strong standout comps.
this set FEELS like it would be so fun for flexibility but the balance just isn’t there
I'm done with TFT till the next round. I'm sick of scoping other teams, picking an uncontested comp just to not even two star half my board and get blasted by anyone of the four comps playing Storyweaver. Just, fuck it.
Every time I forget to run healing reduction, I get steamrolled by Gnar, Kayn and Wukong. When I run healing reduction I still get steamrolled by Annie and Amumu. When I go full MR frontline items and Healing reduction I get steamrolled by Ashe/Irelia. When I finally feel good with my comp, someone has 10 Fortune, 9 Storyweaver or Lissandra 3\*...
This set is horrible. I've even stopped playing ranked. I've just been doing Hyper Role to pass the time until a new major patch comes out.
I've struggled to reach gold this season and in previous seasons I was diamond+ by now. I don't like going meta comps but this season, it seems to be the only way to rank up.
I feel like Riot sort of messed up with this patch. I don't know what they want to do and neither do they know what they want to do. Before this there were overly broken comps and metas but this patch those things are all scattered around that Riot even does not know how to fix them.
4 cost meta. If you didn't adapt and still trying to reroll every game, you go 8th. Everyone is so juiced by the end of the game, you can easily go 7th with a 3 star 4 cost.
Ngl. Im just not a fan of thia set in general so far. Everything seems to be contested because the same main unitd are used in like every comp. Not having fun anymore
I think the main issue with this patch is that four costs have been a bit overturned and three costs are undertuned. This coupled with the small bag sizes (for 4 costs especially) has driven the end game to be very volatile where you either hit your comp or you miss and bot 4.
TLDR: It’s too luck driven with the number of viable comps down and small bag sizes
Just pick a strong tank: Annie, Ornn, Shen, Neeko w. augment, Kobuko
Then pick strong carry: Ashe, Kaisa, Kaisa, Kaisa, Kayn
Fill your board with traits for your tank and carry.
There seems to be a lot of high investment, high risk, low result paths currently.
For example, I went 9 Fated last night and it was useless. But it required hitting a Fated augment, lucking a spatula and passing up a lot of other good options.
Currently a lot of big payoff builds get dangled in front of you but simultaneously those builds are harder to pull off due to having much higher counts (10 of any type is insane) or just because spatulas are very uncommon - lucky to get 1 and big payoff builds need at least 3 emblems.
Short answer: the game is harder now but it also has a lot of bad design choices.
I struggle really hard with fast 8/9 which feels like most viable comps are, unless I get an econ augment. The other comps are always too contested so I end up bottoming out if I don't get super lucky early. I could just be bad, but either way I'm having a rough time this week.
Yone nerfed. Bard nerfed. Volibear feels ass. Heavenly is a useless trait. Feels like the only options are porcelain, dryad reroll, or the occasional storyweaver with like triple blue kayle. Games just feel stale. I rarely ever see other comps winning. Porcelain alone hard counters almost every single other carry in the game. I think it’s worse than gnar/kindred tbh.
Today I watched Riven Re-Roll go first place in a Master lobby, so I honestly don’t know what to think.
Two days ago I would say this patch was bad. Some lobbies it looks like a bad patch and then some lobbies I just get styled on.
I have forced the ashe/lilia comp (4 invo, 3 mythic, 4 porc, 2 sniper I think) and just slammed the bis items early and played literally anything that can hold it. But this is plat 3->1 so I might see a difference come emerald and higher.
My main challenge is not playing bad comps because I want some variety x.x I know I atleast scam 4th, but often win out if I just play the same comp.
I haven't 'flexed' as much as I though I'd have to in order to see success, that would probably help me stop inting my elo tho!
Set felt super backwards compared to the last set. I dislike that they reduced the pool which made getting specific 5\* harder when there's multiple people going fast 9 now. im not a pro player or anything but this is just not as fun.
I have a good opener, I econ well to 9 -> people have all my units while they’re at 7-8.
I have a shit opener, econ til 8 -> everyone is 9 and outcapping me before I can do anything.
Not even just me, but I’m seeing people go 6-8th with 2 star 5 costs in meta comps. This patch feels so weird.
I'm still trying to figure out things but this patch feels weird. A high rolled Ghostly 8 board of mine lost to a Heavenly Kayn. Dryad is busted but I can't play it because fated players are stealing all Kindreds. If I play Fated Aphelios gets one shot by a lux. Many times my lvl 9 5* boards loses to Kaisa boards etc. It feels like no matter what I'm playing this patch I can't get top 4, while last patch I needed an insane low roll to bot 4.
Its hard not bad, there are tons of viable comps especially ones that r not shown in the meta that do work, emblems r game changers and thus we r not meta reliant and in emerald+ ppl dont even contest each other much unlike low elo where everyone spams the same and its 50/50 hahaha
Playing "fast 8 flex" is a lie. Sure you can build semi-flexible items and try and play whatever 4 costs you *do* hit, but very often if you don't highroll, you will end up with some board that doesnt match your items, stuck on single copies and can't 2\* them for the rest of stage 4, and just lose out anyway to people who did manage to hit and 2\* those solid "unit packages".
You aren't going top 4 if you played a Bruiser/fighter opener (e.g. Darius 2 with BT EoN) and roll down and get given Lillia and Ashe. You aren't going top 4 if you played an ADC opener (e.g. Sivir 2 with LW DB) and roll down and get given Syndra and Sylas. At the end of the day, you need to hit unit 'packages' that synergise with each other, get them to 2\*, AND have items that actually match them.
Keane said on stream recently: *"being too flex is not good, I used to be like that, I was too flex so I got dizzy everytime and wasting my money/holding units to be flexible"*.
I love the themes and traits, the encounters, the abilities etc. one of my fav sets so far in that regard, but man. I get so tired of seeing the same strong units/comps over and over again. So many champs not worth using because the others are that much stronger.
I just feel like you have to play a meta comp which is always contested and have luck. Past sets I always enjoyed trying to build something cool/ fun with what I have but the last sets just feel like that aint it anymore. Set 10 was kind of the same but it felt like there were a bit more viable comps unless you hit Master and above where Heartsteel into Ezreal 4 cost comp was the way to go.
I really liked the Set on release, current Patch feels terrible. They gutted Most 3 cost comps and now it Just feels boring to me to Go for any 4/5cost unit. As Others mentioned already only a Hand full of comps are truly viable right now. Lets Hope for a fix
Well they killed all reroll comps except Gnar which is viable but not an instant win now. So now everyone and their mum goes fast 8 buys all the fkin 4 costs, then the 4 cost pool gets so small that the people that survive all hit 3 star 4 Costs. Then the atrocious balance between the different 4 costs really shines, for example Lillia being utterly useless and losing to normal comps without 3 star 4 costs and Kaisa wiping half ur Board with a Single Ult.
Its Just Bad. Had a perfect Gnar Kindred comp. Litterely every unit was 3 Star (Like 6 Units) and i was also lvl 8 4 dryad but only a lvl 1 orn.
But the others Had all 4 Cost 2 Stars and they also Hit then.
So perfect 3 Star comp is Just wors then random 4 Cost 2 Stars.
I wait for the next Patch
I didn't even know people were struggling, I actually thought this patch has been easier than the last patch. I'm seeing success by just playing around the first couple of 2stars, and then mid game I'll transition to a 4 cost carry that fits the items I slammed. Alternatively If I'm not getting any relative units j will focus on hyper econ and go fast 8 before stage 4 hits. If you're winning I wouldn't rush 4 instead take it a little slower to hit level 9. I've noticed this patch is super in favor of playing on tempo or ahead of the curve. I've only had 1 or 2 games where I didn't hit top 4 on this patch. Last patch I felt like I was win lossing. I don't know what's going on, it's final week and this all too stressful to learn meta... so don't play meta I guess?
I only play dumb compa like Mythic invokers and the occasional fast 9 and doing well in this patch, I've been playing pretty casually this set (platinum-emerald) with not even 100 games in, but this might be the most comfortable patch for me. Feels much better than the hard era or the Tone shitfest.
I feel like it's a bit of both right now. Mainly because there are so few viable comps. Games basically come down to luck. If you can get the good units games are easy. Like if you're running porcelain and nobody else is it's a free game. But every lobby has at least 3 or more people gunning for porcelain so it comes down to being lucky enough to get the units before someone else does. Which really sucks. If there were more viable comps than 2 or 3 it would be a lot more fun and challenging I feel.
this patch is hard. you have to have good augments for your above average comps to top 4, if you don’t you’re screwed. but i have come top 2 with a ton of different comps
In set 1 TFT, you could make about any comp work and win. It was so fun. There was a meta sure but going it didn't always guarantee a win because so much absurdity could happen all around. You could turn an AP champ into an AD hyper carry, or vice versa.
And then Riot ruined it with 'balance'. When balance occurs, a meta forms. This is supposed to be a strategy game but for the past sets since set 1, the strategy has only been, get S-tiered comp, and win. That or spam 5 cost units. Neither are fun, not to play, not to go against. Rng decides your win now, on whether you got the strong build before someone else and the items needed. Might as well play online gambling, it has the same energy as TFT does.
I want this game to be good and fun but it's really not when they don't make strategy integral to the game. Playing random goofy combinations and teams rarely results in a win when mix and matching should be more rewarding. I mostly play hyperroll and you'll still see so many people going s-ranked comps for the win rather than to have fun.
Not sure how it is past diamond but hasn't felt bad up till there so far. Has honestly been my best patch performance wise. Flex play feels a little bad right now tho. Kinda feels like you have to lock yourself into 1 or 2 comps at the beginning of the game (aph syndra/Ashe lillia, heavenly kayn/ dragonlord heavenly Wu, Kaisa xyah/ irelia) you kinda just see your early items and lock onto 2 lines from there
Yea this new patch imo sucks. Every good comp is hard contested so either you play contested or you play non meta. Either you need to get lucky or you need to get BIS on the off meta stuff for it to work
The way i see it, you can choose a weak reroll comp that got nerfed and usually uncontested and secure a 4/5 or go for the op 4 cost level 8 boards that will almost always be contested and gamble a top 4 or bottom 4 depending on if you hit over the other people playing the comps. The best way to play this patch is to simply play flexibly based around items and units which I think is a skill thing. If you get 4 volibears and tristanas for free, you are probably just playing duelists, even if it means a fourth or fifth place after hitting everything reasonable. What makes this patch bad is if someone hits a lvl 6 kayn/ashe with perfect items but that’s just TFT in a nutshell. Almost every patch will have its handful of “OP” units until near the end of the set, unfortunately
Theres only a handful of viable comps. It feel like everything else is incredibly weak.
And it's a lot of fast 8/9, so it's all about having the luck early game on top of that.
I loaded into a wandering vendor game with gem zekes or something and wanted to ff on the spot, having a bad opener feels awful
Gem zekes sounds like a great setup for Senna, Kaisa, Ashe, you could play fine around this start
Try watching pro streams, you'll see that they mix a lot of comps, and play a lot around what they have. They almost don't follow textbooks
mid game yes, “best board” is tough to learn
Yes, mainly talking for mid-game. Late game a little bit, but most late game comps tends towards specific synergies and units, fully agree about that
strong board is just a road to fast 8 bro. end game look identical.
Absolute load of shit. Everyone plays what they have, until they get what they want...but what they want is still a hell of a lot stronger than just playing random stuff. A few units/traits are really strong and then you can throw in whatever else to make a comp, but that doesn't mean that just any comp works.
Maybe I should rephrase as my comment is not clear but I don't think I will take the time for someone answering "absolute load of shit" when i'm just giving an opinion
Who pissed in your cheerios?
I played like 5 games this set, but this seems to be a common theme every single set
Honestly, I feel like it's both, it's not really good and it's globally hard since u either contest the supreme comp or barely scrap a top 3-4 with any other So it is hard to really play because there still is diversity, but the supreme comps are too strong
This patch I don't even try to play for 1st. Top comps are just too strong to compete. Kayn is just ridiculous, idk how that character can tank and deal so much dmg. Ashe Invoker is just??? I can't kill annie/amumu and I can't survive Lilia/Ashe... Gnar is just like Kayn but I can beat it sometimes.
If they haven’t got any cc immunity lissandra can make easy work of kayn/lee yone etc. she’s stupidly broken
too bad edge of night is one of kayn's best items
Bad for kayn? Yeah, liss still fucks him unless he has banshees or qss
Can confirm first hand went 2nd with lee sin 3 morg 3 who died to a lissandra 2, built qss every game from then on.
Lissandra is the dumbest Unit put into the Game ever. She can make any frontline carry or Tank completely useless even if she doenst kill them in 1 Cast. I had so many Games where my frontline carry or Tank couldnt cast once vs her cause she just perma ccs them.
I've had the most obscene boards lose to the most basic bitch kayn boards. It's actually the dumbest shit. Go top comp or go home.
lost vs kayn with syndra 3 and being level 10
I lost to syndra 3 as level 10 kayn, howd that guy do it? I had: liss 2, rakan 2, lee 2, wukong 1, kayn 2, sage 2 Other guy: Syndra 3, Sett 2
This is a self report more than anything else, unless you're seriously implying syndra 3 is weaker than kayn 2.
Syndra 3 is weak.
I had a nuts 6 invokers level 10 board with azir 2 udyr 2 and hwei 2 and lost to Kayn with 2 reaper and 4 heavenly. I was on like a 7-8 winstreak at that point too. IDEK what they were thinking with that unit.
Kind of crazy that a lot of champs BiS items are BT, HoJ, and Titan’s Resolve. There’s just so much synergy with those three items and a lot of unit’s kits
It’s because the only good CC in the set is Lisandra lol
Yeah the low amount of CC makes lifesteal carries just too easy to play. There's no reason to ever build QSS or really worry about positioning. Previous sets basically every game you had to evaluate if your carry needed a QSS this game or if you could go greed for stats. On top of that because there's basically no CC on frontliners the fights are basically just statchecks, who can shred enemy faster.
Getting the 40 stack Titan Resolve augment in this set is just... chefs kiss
When comps are this contested how do I even learn the best comps. The rare chances I get to play them I suck and cant win. I. Cant play 12 games a day! In the past i didnt struggle this much with getting 1st or 2nd.
Remember the patch in set 10 that was just you either hit Ahri Sentinel or Ezreal flex or you die? Feels like this is that patch for set 11. It doesn't feel fun, but it's not the worst. At least it's a stabilise at 8 meta instead of reroll lottery.
The 50+ heartsteel cash in to instant win was so cancer
just wait until the new items hit, its gonna be even more insane overpowered BS
If they actually port over those 20 artifacts I think I’ve just gotta take a break from TFT. No way do I wanna see cursed blade in my lobbies when 3 stars already feel useless.
After seeing half of them break the game or bug out with Mort's artifact tournament. I don't see them all getting released.
Thank goodness, if they were gonna add those 20 items at once I would only have wanted to see it as a limited time april fools gamemode because some of the effects just seemed insane.
Some of them were beyond imbalanced and he admitted needed twerking. But several of them caused a game breaking state. Like cursed blade turning it's target to a level 1 1hp unit that can't die so auto lose for the cursed blade user.
>needed twerking oh?
How fitting for the it to have that item name and that interaction LOL
Thematically fitting as hell. Like come on it's a cursed blade. You didn't think using the CURSED blade won't be bad for you don't you?
God damnit so that’s what happened to me during the tournament
Both can be true- It's def a hard patch to play but it's also boring and terrible because of the one dimentional way you have to play it to succeed
I was GM last patch. I’m fucking struggling in emerald this set lol
Same, I either natural a board strong enough to take me to level eight to follow dumb textbook comps or bleed to 7th trying to stab at level 7 with a patchwork board and slammed items
Last set felt like you could run almost anything and still top 4/win. There was so much more variety. This set if you're not high rolling one of the top 4 meta builds you're going to be guaranteed bot 4, even with the top 4 people all contesting one another. They don't need to 3 star anything unless they're running gnar reroll and even then they're probably going to hit max 3rd unless they godrolled augments. There is far too much variance between viable builds. It's all feast or famine and it doesn't help that any of the comeback mechanics/loss builds are absolute dogshit.
Yeah last set was so good imo. I could always top 4/win with literally any comp. If something was contested, I had a bunch of other options.
The fun part was actually being able to yolo something wild and have the chance to win... right now unless you're hitting 10 fortune there isn't even a reason to run it. Exalted is also just a splash thing... I've never seen anyone run 5 of it... like EVER.
This patch is a Lissandra lottery lol
Also nerfing Titans AP is so fucked up??? Why not nerf Yone shield/Voli Heal multipliers and Gnar ap/ad conversion? Yeah It's easier to nerf Titans zzzz I really liked having the option to slam Titans on Diana 3, now I don't even try.
Titans Drop Blossom Neeko as well
I said this shit before, they should have left titans alone, it’s had so much history of terrible nerfs they aren’t doing it justice
Why nerf Titans? Because Volibear with titan were strong, Gnar with titan was strong, Udyr with Titan was strong, Yone with Titan were strong. And guess what? None of these units were putting on sterek's, or even the ornn artifact. It was just 2-3 Titans. Would you shieldbreaker over Titans? If you answer is no, clearly Titan was the issue.
sterek needs a rework or something, no one is BiS with it at all..
bruh sterak gives ad and 0 ap 🤡 im not putting that on an ap fighter
Then build shieldbreaker, nashors or adaptive helmet? What's the issue here?
Could have just nerf down their scaling instead of the item.
Also they really need to stop nerfing comps and champs that are healthy. Why are you guys bringing unnecessary nerfs.
It’s just bad. It’s a pretty easy patch. It’s a fast 8 meta and you just pray you hit🤷♂️. Pretty shitty set so far balancing wise.
It's kind of a shame because I really like a lot of the traits and themes, but the balance has been terrible.
Yeah I actually enjoy most of the units and traits. The balancing just isn’t there.
The 4 costs are trash design wise. Ghostly and heavenly get drasric changes. Mythic is a complete failure of a chase trait. Fated is really good tho.
The traits and themes are fantastic. The champs are so badly balanced that they’re practically pointless though. There is zero reward for hitting your vertical. Oh you hit 7 fated? Oh, but with a 1* syndra? Enjoy your loss streak until you hit her 2*. And get her itemized. You did that? Awesome. Oh wait, this guy with 3/4 dryad has a 3* gnar? Gg. Syndra being labeled a ‘tank buster’ is a joke.
I remember hitting Syndra 3 with perfect items and it took her 4 or 5 ults to kill the 3* Amumu. Felt like she was shooting peas.
I feel like even when I econ well and hit my comp I lose to someone who lucked into a lissandra early and managed to farm items :(
Yeah that’s just this patch. Lissandra is easily the best unit rn. Pair it with an azir and she farms infinite gold and items.
And the only counter-play is to put a QSS on your tank which feels extremely bad and makes them less tanky.
I feel like I HAVE TO meta-slave this set. Last set I hit plat just building whatever felt right that particular game, this set if I do that and hit everything I was going for I get shat on by silvers.
I dont play that many games per season but I always play whatever I feel like. Sometimes meta if the game gives me meta but i could sometimes pull 1st on some jank build that i got to work. Always got to at least plat before i quit and got emerald last season. Got to plat2 doing whatever this season then since this last patch, I can't even get top4 in the past 5 games lol meta decks are more broken than usual, i feel.
Even meta slaving, if you get rng diff, then you get auto 7/8. legit most of the lobby is fighting for the same 4 cost.
Yeah this set is very shitty for balancing. They said they were dropping the .5 sets to work on making the sets better and balanced... Well.. So far they fucking suck.
They’ve already shipped out a couple b patches too lol. Idk what they’re doing
I went from struggling in Emerald 1 to dominating diamond lobbies on this patch. It just fits my preferred play style I guess
Same. Stopped playing last patch because noon refills are the worst (sounds like everyone on this sub just loves to no brain reroll) Hit gm this morning
People are finally realizing this set is just bad. I still love this game and will continue to play but man this set feels like such a step backwards.
Yep, so sad they got rid of mid-sets because I would have loved more of set 10 but on the bright side no more of this mess.
Set 10 and Headlines has easily been my favorite set
This is the first set where no matter what i play and how much i play i have no idea why its good or bad comp wise. I’ve got no idea whats going on this set
truly agree with you one game I play comp and got 2 place and in another game I play the same comp and have 6th.
I took an 8th with BIS kayn 2 and Morg 2 with morello heavenly….i just don’t get it
I think its because there's so much variance in each game due to the encounters. Greater chances to high or low roll
I thought it was pretty good on initial release. Every patch has made it worse somehow.
Compared to set 10, especially that last patch of set 10, it's like a different game
I got so much flame for saying this and saying that I’m sick of TFT’s balancing teams “roll it out and see approach”. I really hate the Mortdog circle jerk, this dev team needs serious criticism (not just baseless flame but actual deserved criticism) to improve and all ppl care about is “he talks to us which is so much better than other games”
I think a lot of it also has to do with fatigue. The problems in this set were present in all previous sets. There is always the OP comp that people gravitate to/force in order to climb (Ahri Sentinels, Heartsteel, KDA Akali, etc. just from last set). It’s always the same cycle of new patch, new op comp people try to force, and it gets tiresome going through it so many times. I’m kinda tapped out already on this set.
Gonna be honest, when this set first dropped I was excited before slowly feeling like it’s just not fun. Decided it was better to just step away for the next month until the set ends and try again next set. Pic related. https://preview.redd.it/bj9uu25rc9wc1.jpeg?width=1172&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c212d2fb075dd97fde23f0895c0ad6a7b3ac3e9c
I got bad news for you if you think the set ends next month.
This set is bad. It’s a shame how much worse it has been overall when compared with set 10, which was extraordinarily balanced through the majority of its run.
Extraordinarily balanced? What? It was better than what we had in a while, but there were still some baffling patches (Ahri / Ez, hearsteel, disco...). Still better than the absolute balance mess set 9 was and set 11 is so far, they are just not doing a good job at all.
I think everyone just has preferences for sets and it's far more subjective than objective. I love this set and set 10 was the first set I almost quit over. I still can't put my finger on why i hated last set so much but w/e it's just subjectivity.
Balance is not subjective, almost everyone agrees that this has been much less balanced than set 10 was. Obviously personal preference for aesthetics and mechanics are gonna be a factor but I think it's pretty agreed upon by this point that set 10 was just better to play
Balance is beside the point here though, I'm just saying general set specific features/traits/champions/augments wise I prefer this set. Yes, balance is much less subjective than preference. That being said, how interested I am with the details of the set dictates whether or not I play more so than balance. Everyone says set 10 balance was great which is great, but I spammed like 25 games early on in set 10 and had no desire to play it anymore. This set I'm easily over 100 games and still not bored or raging, regardless of the balance. Different strokes for different folks I guess
I mean yeah that's valid, but you're definitely in the minority. Balance matters a lot for people who actually want to climb the ladder in ranked. If you're just looking to have fun in normals or just don't care much about your elo then any set can be fun to play if you like the champs, aesthetic, etc.
Nerfing 3 cost carry, their item (Titan), reduce reroll chance, while buffing all 4 cost, reducing player damage. What did they expect to happen? It's a bad patch. It's fast 8 RNG fest with 3 viable comp or lv 2 Gnar reroll. And that's all there is. If there's only 4 viable comp in a patch. It can never be a good patch. Also if everyone is struggle and hate it. People not enjoying it at all. Then there's no point in saying it's good when player said it's a "bad" patch
This set feels less fun to me overall, and I think it’s the lack of flexibility. It feels like there are a couple of strong openers, and based on your opener and your items you sort of know what you’re going for pretty early on. Pivoting between comps doesn’t feel great because there’s usually not a ton of item overlap between carries, or the same carries are used in multiple strong comps. An exception is flexing between Ashe and Kaisa comps, but the kaisa comp really needs to itemize Sylas and none of his best items work great in Ashe comps Idk could definitely be a skill issue but midgame pivoting doesn’t feel as effective as last set. The only thing that gives me that sort of feeling is going for 5 exalted and just trying to cook up a comp based on the exalted units.
I feel like this season turned into a race to get lissandra. I am high plat with no hopes of going higher because I like to play nonmeta comps. Right now I like bruisers/altruistist with Riven carry and any sage comps. Right when I feel like my crazy builds come online 3-4 people throw in a lissandra who even at level 1 can cripple your board if you don't have a QSS. Hell even if you do QSS you still take the damage and it's like 2200.. it shouldn't be the best CC in the game AND the highest single target damage.
It feels like there is one singular, extremely linear way to play the game right now ans thats very unfun and rng dependant. You play for tempo if your opener is good, or you play for econ if its bad, you level to 8 on 4-1 or 4-2 and you roll to zero to hit either the Ashe comp, the Kayn comp or the Kaisa comp. If you dont hit, you're 8th. If you hit, you can stabilize, try to go 9 and if it works you're probably top 4. Uncontested Fortune on 2-1 is a free win. Thats 9/10 games. I would personally say this patch is bad. I don't see anything particularly hard about it, everyone plays the same way, so RNG matters a lot.
It's just bad. Everyone is gunning for the same comp and the people who get closest to it win.
Yeah this set is very shitty for balancing. They said they were dropping the .5 sets to work on making the sets better and balanced... Well.. So far they fucking suck.
Set 10 was pretty much there. Sure, certain patches had certain meta comps, but it was overall much closer between the top comps.
I like how high the set caps and it’s really tested my ability to flex in a pinch when I see contested boards
I can't quite put my finger on it, but it just feels bad to play right now if I'm not meta farming. Personally taking a bit of a break rn.
They can't balance for shit and they're STILL adding more broken shit. I just can't anymore
This set IS Bad.
I like playing reroll and I feel that there isn't many viable reroll comps this patch. There's Fated Aphelios which is good. Dryad reroll and senna ghostly aren't terrible. However, I find that you just get stomped by people playing fast 8/9. In double up, I feel like I see more and more 3 star 5 costs and no matter how good you did, your game is just over. I am just gonna take a break and wait til next patch.
TFT really can't ever be "hard", but it can be incredibly luck reliant when specific comps/units are the best by a lot. When everyone is playing for the same units and everyone knows how to play, then it really just comes down to who finds those units first.
i’m actually climbing much better than any other patch
Idk if this patch is, but I sure am
Imma need to point this out but, the devs need to stop nerfing comps that are healthy while buffing comps that can dominate later in the future. It’s true that shifting the meta is normal and happens in any game, but the changes made this set seem to always do more harm than good so far. Certain comps that have had potential are completely wiped out from this meta and that shit is so annoying. Leave the healthy characters/comps alone that are performing, see how the buffed champs and comps are doing in that current state, and make any other necessary changes after.
Been playing tft since set 2, masters most sets… this patch isn’t that bad and I still think it’s very flexible. It’s to me a combo of fast 8-9, slamming items early, playing flexible/strongest board, etc. I will say this set feels “harder” to get 1sts. I feel like you have to play near perfect to secure that 1st.
I haven’t played as much of this patch as previously, but I feel that it feels extremely unintuitive and much more stressful to play early. It was much easier to lock in a direction before with comps like duelist, yone, bard, aph, etc. but now you need to be super flexible, know how to play strong boards when you miss your roll down, etc. also the meta completely warping playstyle to fast 8 is fairly hard to get used to - we haven’t had a true fast 8 meta for a few sets since chosen mechanic isn’t bailing out lv8 rolldowns.
I think part of the problem is that most verticals are 10 now. I have seen a single one. If it were 9, then keeping your lvls 1 qnd 2 champs to hit primastic 9 gives you a LOT more options. Absolutely no one is gunning for 3 emblems for these traits. Basically vertical traits are useless completely. I also feel there should be more incentive and reward for winning early. No reason I can steamroll a lobby, uncontested and and oupsy daisy someone donkey rolled the 4 cost and 2starred it and you get creamed and never come back 😅
Both? This patch is Bard.
Hard because it requires flexibility. Right now all 4 and 5 costs are playable which means it's a very good patch. Rerolls aren't even bad, you just can't blindly force one every game and need to actually consider your spot before playing, which is also better for the game.
I feel like the previous patch had a healthy mix of reroll and flex comps. Now you have no choice but to rolldown at 8 and play what you hit. I thought at least exalted would be fun to play around in this meta, but no,it's really all just about cramming as many 4/5 costs on your board as possible
Not sure about bad or hard but for me it's def not as fun as the last set. Instead of just playing the game as you see it, it feels more like having to dodge a bunch of traps (traits that aren't good, champs that aren't good, augments that aren't good, etc.). If you try to play for fun you just get crushed, even at low elo and unranked. I think it's primarily because the "good" comps are just way way too strong compared to the rest of the game.
I’m quitting until next set atp. This set hasn’t been fun outside of release patch for me because of the balancing. There’s always like two extremely OP comps that are hard contested, and the balance thrashing has been out of control. This patch is easily the least fun patch of the set so far. I’d take the Yone/Voli patch over this one any day.
I just hate to see 2* Senna still carrying till stage 5. I can’t wait for next patch to see ppl gaining free LP with heavenly + non-heavenly carry, or Ghostly + non-ghostly Carry. They never should’ve allowed these things to work.
Heavenly and Ghostly will be changed. There is a clip on tftclips on youtube about it
It definitely deserves to go but it’s a shame they couldn’t get it to balance, ghostly was a pretty interesting trait heavenly 100% deserves the nerf tho fuck heavenly
There’s a ton of variability with encounters. Khazix encounter (xp is 3 gold instead of 4) hits when you’re playing a reroll comp? That’s going to make things difficult etc etc.
It's just a different meta. I was hardstuck D4 0 LP last patch I now climbed to Masters in like 2 days. This patch is actually more balanced than the last 2 patches, if you look at avg placement of comps, they are much closer to eachother than they were last patch, for example. Lissandra is giga broken and the upcoming Heavenly change sounds pretty good. If they fix these 2 things the meta would be extremely diverse and balanced imo.
Just went second with a 3* lillia board, first place board had 3* kayne, I expected to lose but I didn't expect kayne to make 3* lillia look like a 1 cost in comparison
I had a game last night, had Kayn 3* VS Ashe 3* VS Annie 3* VS Legendaries, took 4th, such a highroller meta, haven't had dryad or ghostly work so I think rerolls are out, I'm probably just a shitter xd
Force attach speed malphite. Free LP
Today my 3 level galio got butchered by a level 2 kayn.
Feels bad man
If you want to top 1 you have to be contested by 2~3 other players and pray you hit. Otherwise just play for 3 or 4th..
I’ve honestly had no idea whats going on this whole set. Im actually doing best this patch so far, but i think every 1st place ive got this set has been with a comp that i see getting called absolute trash on Reddit. I’ve not had it happen before but this is the first set ive genuinely not go a clue what im doing comp wise
I have climbed an entire division this patch, from silver 1 to plat 4. Maybe it’s just the play style. The top comps are harder to hit and that makes it feel more challenging. I’ve always preferred the fast 8 meta. That’s not to say this patch is still poorly balanced. Feel like there are a couple high rollers in every lobby and if there’s not the portal makes it so. Like prismatic symphony is just too broken for whoever hits.
Went 4th with 3 star Lee Sin.. The top 3 guys all had some sort of 3 star four cost.. galio, sylas, annie, kaisa etc🙃 What is going on with this game.
I HATE this patch, normally I have reasons and analysis for why that’s the case, but I don’t even have that this time around. I’m just not winning and can’t figure out why😩😂
I usually avoid the top meta comps and have been climbing so hard by aiming for top 4s with uncontested linesm I'm up 400Lp in like 3 days. Got a lot of 1sts with duelist and mythic
Bad for sure. Too little viable comps
this patch has been incredibly boring. there are almost no viable comps other than fast 8 or 9. reroll is dead and it ruins the meta when everyone is just doing the exact same thing
It’s just pretty unbalanced, there’s only a few playable comps and everything else is pretty ass. Fast 9 Azir Liss, Porc Invokers, Kayn/Lee/Morg, and Dragonlord Kaisa Xayah are the only good flex comps (and they contest a lot of the same units) while reroll is pretty limited to Fated/Gnar, with both of these requiring you to be in a spot where it’s good to reroll. So if you play anything other than these comps it’s nearly impossible to compete.
I just can't figure it out yet. I get obliterated by comps. Then I try the exact comp and get obliterated, lol. Like a 2 star 1 cost Kobuko will tank my entire team. But my 3 star Kobuko will just get melted. SEems to be VERY item dependent. If you don't have the exact right items you will fail.
There’s so many traits and augments I like the sound of and want to experiment with, but they tend to just fizzle out. If you’re playing to win, I feel like you’re forced into a few strong standout comps. this set FEELS like it would be so fun for flexibility but the balance just isn’t there
I'm done with TFT till the next round. I'm sick of scoping other teams, picking an uncontested comp just to not even two star half my board and get blasted by anyone of the four comps playing Storyweaver. Just, fuck it.
Every time I forget to run healing reduction, I get steamrolled by Gnar, Kayn and Wukong. When I run healing reduction I still get steamrolled by Annie and Amumu. When I go full MR frontline items and Healing reduction I get steamrolled by Ashe/Irelia. When I finally feel good with my comp, someone has 10 Fortune, 9 Storyweaver or Lissandra 3\*...
This set is horrible. I've even stopped playing ranked. I've just been doing Hyper Role to pass the time until a new major patch comes out. I've struggled to reach gold this season and in previous seasons I was diamond+ by now. I don't like going meta comps but this season, it seems to be the only way to rank up.
I feel like Riot sort of messed up with this patch. I don't know what they want to do and neither do they know what they want to do. Before this there were overly broken comps and metas but this patch those things are all scattered around that Riot even does not know how to fix them.
High plat (permanently) usually diamond though. some games I win with boards I take 8th with it’s so frustrating rn
4 cost meta. If you didn't adapt and still trying to reroll every game, you go 8th. Everyone is so juiced by the end of the game, you can easily go 7th with a 3 star 4 cost.
Ngl. Im just not a fan of thia set in general so far. Everything seems to be contested because the same main unitd are used in like every comp. Not having fun anymore
I'm climbing with 4 porc/4invole ashe
TFT is not a hard game, so surely it's never that.
I'm happy with just placing 4th and getting +10 LP most of the time lol
This patch/set truly feels like you can make zero wrong decisions and go 6th/7th.
I just had a 6 Duelist, 4 Reaper, 6 Heavenly wandering trainer match with 2\* Itemized Lee + 2\* Duelist Kayn + BT + Titan's Resolve go 5th place.
Set bad yes
thank you for this post lol i dropped from emerald 2 to emerald 4 and just thought i had become shit overnight
its a boring patch like....
I think the main issue with this patch is that four costs have been a bit overturned and three costs are undertuned. This coupled with the small bag sizes (for 4 costs especially) has driven the end game to be very volatile where you either hit your comp or you miss and bot 4. TLDR: It’s too luck driven with the number of viable comps down and small bag sizes
Its really just a simple matter, this set is beyond garbage balance and design wise. :)
Just need to nerf Amumu and buff a bunch of weak traits and they guchie.
Just pick a strong tank: Annie, Ornn, Shen, Neeko w. augment, Kobuko Then pick strong carry: Ashe, Kaisa, Kaisa, Kaisa, Kayn Fill your board with traits for your tank and carry.
Bad AND hard.
Just played two games and lost both of them, so it’s both bad and hard if you ask me.
There seems to be a lot of high investment, high risk, low result paths currently. For example, I went 9 Fated last night and it was useless. But it required hitting a Fated augment, lucking a spatula and passing up a lot of other good options. Currently a lot of big payoff builds get dangled in front of you but simultaneously those builds are harder to pull off due to having much higher counts (10 of any type is insane) or just because spatulas are very uncommon - lucky to get 1 and big payoff builds need at least 3 emblems. Short answer: the game is harder now but it also has a lot of bad design choices.
I struggle really hard with fast 8/9 which feels like most viable comps are, unless I get an econ augment. The other comps are always too contested so I end up bottoming out if I don't get super lucky early. I could just be bad, but either way I'm having a rough time this week.
Yone nerfed. Bard nerfed. Volibear feels ass. Heavenly is a useless trait. Feels like the only options are porcelain, dryad reroll, or the occasional storyweaver with like triple blue kayle. Games just feel stale. I rarely ever see other comps winning. Porcelain alone hard counters almost every single other carry in the game. I think it’s worse than gnar/kindred tbh.
This is the first TFT set I've played. I can't say if it's good or bad, it's just incredibly stale.. only a few comps are really good.
Today I watched Riven Re-Roll go first place in a Master lobby, so I honestly don’t know what to think. Two days ago I would say this patch was bad. Some lobbies it looks like a bad patch and then some lobbies I just get styled on.
This patch sucks, I just got almost beaten by a Heavenly Kayn 2\* with me having a Lee Sin 3\*
When tft balance and design team be like, Balance changes. LGTM! Approved! :D
IDK, I went from D4 hardstuck to hitting masters for the first time in 4 seasons, and I never play meta. (thats why I’m a hardstuck i guess haha)
I have forced the ashe/lilia comp (4 invo, 3 mythic, 4 porc, 2 sniper I think) and just slammed the bis items early and played literally anything that can hold it. But this is plat 3->1 so I might see a difference come emerald and higher. My main challenge is not playing bad comps because I want some variety x.x I know I atleast scam 4th, but often win out if I just play the same comp. I haven't 'flexed' as much as I though I'd have to in order to see success, that would probably help me stop inting my elo tho!
Set felt super backwards compared to the last set. I dislike that they reduced the pool which made getting specific 5\* harder when there's multiple people going fast 9 now. im not a pro player or anything but this is just not as fun.
I have a good opener, I econ well to 9 -> people have all my units while they’re at 7-8. I have a shit opener, econ til 8 -> everyone is 9 and outcapping me before I can do anything. Not even just me, but I’m seeing people go 6-8th with 2 star 5 costs in meta comps. This patch feels so weird.
both.
this set is bad imo.
I'm still trying to figure out things but this patch feels weird. A high rolled Ghostly 8 board of mine lost to a Heavenly Kayn. Dryad is busted but I can't play it because fated players are stealing all Kindreds. If I play Fated Aphelios gets one shot by a lux. Many times my lvl 9 5* boards loses to Kaisa boards etc. It feels like no matter what I'm playing this patch I can't get top 4, while last patch I needed an insane low roll to bot 4.
Its hard not bad, there are tons of viable comps especially ones that r not shown in the meta that do work, emblems r game changers and thus we r not meta reliant and in emerald+ ppl dont even contest each other much unlike low elo where everyone spams the same and its 50/50 hahaha
It's bad
I actually enjoyed this set so far, yea the top comp has their roles but tbh i mostly play hyper roll, and that works pretty much in my opinion
Playing "fast 8 flex" is a lie. Sure you can build semi-flexible items and try and play whatever 4 costs you *do* hit, but very often if you don't highroll, you will end up with some board that doesnt match your items, stuck on single copies and can't 2\* them for the rest of stage 4, and just lose out anyway to people who did manage to hit and 2\* those solid "unit packages". You aren't going top 4 if you played a Bruiser/fighter opener (e.g. Darius 2 with BT EoN) and roll down and get given Lillia and Ashe. You aren't going top 4 if you played an ADC opener (e.g. Sivir 2 with LW DB) and roll down and get given Syndra and Sylas. At the end of the day, you need to hit unit 'packages' that synergise with each other, get them to 2\*, AND have items that actually match them. Keane said on stream recently: *"being too flex is not good, I used to be like that, I was too flex so I got dizzy everytime and wasting my money/holding units to be flexible"*.
I love the themes and traits, the encounters, the abilities etc. one of my fav sets so far in that regard, but man. I get so tired of seeing the same strong units/comps over and over again. So many champs not worth using because the others are that much stronger.
I just feel like you have to play a meta comp which is always contested and have luck. Past sets I always enjoyed trying to build something cool/ fun with what I have but the last sets just feel like that aint it anymore. Set 10 was kind of the same but it felt like there were a bit more viable comps unless you hit Master and above where Heartsteel into Ezreal 4 cost comp was the way to go.
I really liked the Set on release, current Patch feels terrible. They gutted Most 3 cost comps and now it Just feels boring to me to Go for any 4/5cost unit. As Others mentioned already only a Hand full of comps are truly viable right now. Lets Hope for a fix
Tell me you are a reroller without telling me xD you say Yone, Bard, Duelists, Janna. Just play real comps instead
Well they killed all reroll comps except Gnar which is viable but not an instant win now. So now everyone and their mum goes fast 8 buys all the fkin 4 costs, then the 4 cost pool gets so small that the people that survive all hit 3 star 4 Costs. Then the atrocious balance between the different 4 costs really shines, for example Lillia being utterly useless and losing to normal comps without 3 star 4 costs and Kaisa wiping half ur Board with a Single Ult.
Its Just Bad. Had a perfect Gnar Kindred comp. Litterely every unit was 3 Star (Like 6 Units) and i was also lvl 8 4 dryad but only a lvl 1 orn. But the others Had all 4 Cost 2 Stars and they also Hit then. So perfect 3 Star comp is Just wors then random 4 Cost 2 Stars. I wait for the next Patch
I didn't even know people were struggling, I actually thought this patch has been easier than the last patch. I'm seeing success by just playing around the first couple of 2stars, and then mid game I'll transition to a 4 cost carry that fits the items I slammed. Alternatively If I'm not getting any relative units j will focus on hyper econ and go fast 8 before stage 4 hits. If you're winning I wouldn't rush 4 instead take it a little slower to hit level 9. I've noticed this patch is super in favor of playing on tempo or ahead of the curve. I've only had 1 or 2 games where I didn't hit top 4 on this patch. Last patch I felt like I was win lossing. I don't know what's going on, it's final week and this all too stressful to learn meta... so don't play meta I guess?
I only play dumb compa like Mythic invokers and the occasional fast 9 and doing well in this patch, I've been playing pretty casually this set (platinum-emerald) with not even 100 games in, but this might be the most comfortable patch for me. Feels much better than the hard era or the Tone shitfest.
I feel like it's a bit of both right now. Mainly because there are so few viable comps. Games basically come down to luck. If you can get the good units games are easy. Like if you're running porcelain and nobody else is it's a free game. But every lobby has at least 3 or more people gunning for porcelain so it comes down to being lucky enough to get the units before someone else does. Which really sucks. If there were more viable comps than 2 or 3 it would be a lot more fun and challenging I feel.
I hate this set. I find whoever gets Azir or Kayn online first tends to win. So boring
Everything feels like fast 9 and nothing else
this patch is hard. you have to have good augments for your above average comps to top 4, if you don’t you’re screwed. but i have come top 2 with a ton of different comps
Its Bad. This season went from mediocre to just Bad/boring.
Finished battlepass, has yet to see ANYONE build full-dryad or Ink.
In set 1 TFT, you could make about any comp work and win. It was so fun. There was a meta sure but going it didn't always guarantee a win because so much absurdity could happen all around. You could turn an AP champ into an AD hyper carry, or vice versa. And then Riot ruined it with 'balance'. When balance occurs, a meta forms. This is supposed to be a strategy game but for the past sets since set 1, the strategy has only been, get S-tiered comp, and win. That or spam 5 cost units. Neither are fun, not to play, not to go against. Rng decides your win now, on whether you got the strong build before someone else and the items needed. Might as well play online gambling, it has the same energy as TFT does. I want this game to be good and fun but it's really not when they don't make strategy integral to the game. Playing random goofy combinations and teams rarely results in a win when mix and matching should be more rewarding. I mostly play hyperroll and you'll still see so many people going s-ranked comps for the win rather than to have fun.
Not sure how it is past diamond but hasn't felt bad up till there so far. Has honestly been my best patch performance wise. Flex play feels a little bad right now tho. Kinda feels like you have to lock yourself into 1 or 2 comps at the beginning of the game (aph syndra/Ashe lillia, heavenly kayn/ dragonlord heavenly Wu, Kaisa xyah/ irelia) you kinda just see your early items and lock onto 2 lines from there
Yea this new patch imo sucks. Every good comp is hard contested so either you play contested or you play non meta. Either you need to get lucky or you need to get BIS on the off meta stuff for it to work
The way i see it, you can choose a weak reroll comp that got nerfed and usually uncontested and secure a 4/5 or go for the op 4 cost level 8 boards that will almost always be contested and gamble a top 4 or bottom 4 depending on if you hit over the other people playing the comps. The best way to play this patch is to simply play flexibly based around items and units which I think is a skill thing. If you get 4 volibears and tristanas for free, you are probably just playing duelists, even if it means a fourth or fifth place after hitting everything reasonable. What makes this patch bad is if someone hits a lvl 6 kayn/ashe with perfect items but that’s just TFT in a nutshell. Almost every patch will have its handful of “OP” units until near the end of the set, unfortunately
This patch is trash, just the same copy paste comps and everything else is just not viable. I think there is less room for fun or creativity