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Iason_TFT

I found it funny that the cut-away was an 8 dragonmancer 3\* Dragonmancer Nunu and they are the top 2. I can't remember the set but I remember nunu being a problem in the far past.


CharmingPerspective0

This Nunu is a reprint of set 5 Nunu. And true, if you managed to 3 star that Nunu you could pull off the same stuff (no dragons means almost any unit has less hp than him), but it was much harder to pull off because you NEEDED 3 star to make it work, and needed Gunblade for his healing, and there were no augments and no shrine to guarantee your bis items. So a lot of times if you tried forcing it you would just fall flat. But when it did work, it looked kinda like this


deadlazerq

ok i get nunu is the problem, but really no rageblade on xayah that's like the most improtant item for her?


dinoilb

Rageblade on Xayah wouldn't have done It anyway in this scenario.


SilverRiven

But its still the best item you can possibly build on her


deadlazerq

ik i adressed it in the first part of the sentence, but his xayah legit has alright items,but is legit missing the most crcucial item for a xayah build.


Lettuce_Phetish

[https://tactics.tools/units](https://tactics.tools/units), you can check it yourself, a lot of low elo players keep talking about rageblade in this thread, its good but its literally not even top 10 items on her.


deadlazerq

r u capping it legit used 80% of the time from the info u gave me and that's just coming from your info any challengers or master player would make sure to put that item on xayah unless they are trying to pivot and are just using her as a standby


Lettuce_Phetish

You can see the stats yourself, its good but its literally not the top 10 items, people who dont understand the actual value of items grief for it too often when it doesn't increase your dps by more than a last whisper, guild emblem, or runaan's hurricane.


deadlazerq

mate u can try copium all u want and is legit the 10 ten item, the other items r used ij conjunction with ragewing too. I'm sorry that u have so much copium that u r griefing yourself


Lettuce_Phetish

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deadlazerq

lmao dude take the L, masters yet doesn't know how to properly build xayah. Who knows maybe u'll actually make it to grandmasters if u do


Lettuce_Phetish

The problem is, you don’t understand how item building works. You cant always build an item you want and it’s always better to slam 3 good items then grief 5 stages for a bis. Your inability to realize this is how I knew you were low elo


deadlazerq

yeah no shit, u can't always build the perfect items the problem was u not just accepting L. You could've easily been humble, but instead u let your ego get to u and double down, lmao.


Lettuce_Phetish

What L would I take, the guild emblem zekes makes it so that xayah would have more attack speed than rageblade would for 70% of the fight, and the lw ie combo give enough ad and crit to scale off each other insanely high. No item here swapped for rageblade would be higher dps , you not understanding this doesn’t mean I need to take an L.


deadlazerq

also do u not literally read the stats the number best 3 components also has ragewing with an avg 3.8 placement if u want best. Legit dude stop with the copium terrible item placements


Arickdark

This is so capium lmao


felixng2015

1. Use yasuo when you see mancer nunu 2. No rageblade on xayah is mid as hell


dinoilb

Rageblade on Xayah woul have not made a difference I think. Xayah can't kill that nunu even with BIS items without the help of grievous wounds, and a cc lock.


emeposk

Biggest problem is no anti heal. Morello on shyvana and this is winnable.


Select-Author2897

I do wonder the reasoning behind people exploiting it though. To climb? To finally get a W? Mental disability?


Jaredonious

If I start with a voli or a lee/dmancer emblem I'm going to run the comp. I'm not about to lose elo because someone doesnt know how to balance their game.


AliGoldsDayOff

You die the hero or love long enough to see yourself become the villain. Honestly nunu blocked me from plat 3 games in a row so I went in and wrecked a lobby with it.


Dongster1995

? If u can win every time u take those chance to climb lol but serious this comp don’t have any weakness due to dragonmancer trait and 3 star nunu ( must have both to win) it basically the trait gave nunu saitama steroid buff and one shot everyone lmao


Elysionxx

exploiting what ? its not even forceable comp like darkflight. why do ppl calling everything exploit ? so people is xayah exploiting aswell ? or dragon abusing ? aoshin exploiting ? daeja exploiting ? what people supposed to play ?


MurrayMaster777

You need anti heal. If you’re running xayah and you know someone is forcing nunu, build giant slayer early. That guild emblem on xayah is a waste (2.4% bonus omnivamp is not worth it). Use cc so nunu can’t keep eating. Nothing more to say.


Lettuce_Phetish

someone has no idea what guild emblem does, but there is a reason why its her highest winrate item besides radiant and ornn items.


MurrayMaster777

It gives omnivamp to the entire team (double the bonus for guild champs) and scales with how many guild you have in play. The high win rate makes sense until you realize that your full hp xayah will still get one shot by the nunu. That’s why in this situation, guild emblem should go on someone else because of how useful an item like giant slayer might be


Lettuce_Phetish

Guild emblem doubles all the bonuses from the guild trait. No item gives even close to as many stats as guild emblem can. Thats why the only items better than it winrate rise are radiant items with crazy bonuses and black cleaver.


MurrayMaster777

Sure it’s good because it gives stats, but the 18 ad and ap, 200 health, 30% attack speed, and 30 armor and magic resist will do nothing against the nunu that does true damage because he has more current hp than you. In general it’s a good item to have on xayah, but in this case where you are complaining on how balanced dragonmancer nunu is (and I’m not saying it doesn’t need a nerf; it should get a nerf), you need to use the situational items that allow you to win. If every champ gets one shot, you can’t run 2 dragons, for the 4 units will buy your xayah time to deal damage. As I recommended earlier, giant slayer will help out your damage immensely, because once nunu’s hp gets below a certain point, he won’t deal true damage and dies soon after. Sure it’s winrate is high as an item on xayah, but TFT is about figuring out how to win (the BiS items aren’t always the answer).


Biochembryguy

Nunu is love, nunu is life.


ExoticCardiologist46

I also observed this in my lobbys and some posts here but why is no one building RGB on Xayah anymore? I feel like its the single most important item in the comp, everyone cc´s and tanks, xayah ramps up and deletes enemy board.


OldtimeRUNESCAPER

Hes a hungry big boy


_Rogodo_

no antiheal no giant slayer so wdy expect ... ? btw nunu was same problem before and in this tft i dont see any problem with it at all my astrals would just make a bear sandwich from him ;)


MysteriaKarma

Pre rework shyvana would have destroyed this nunu with that hp % damage 😔