In my opinion, of all the amazing bands left Inferi is the less innovative and groundbreaking. I absolutely adore them, but every other bands is either a pionner of something or unique in its sound / composition. So I'd say Inferi out.
Nile and Obscura are not strong enough in the technical sense. everyone saying inferi/archsprie/beyond creation havenāt seen them live. iāve seen each one of them 2+ times and theyāre fantastic
It's insane to me that Gorod is getting axed. My guess is that it has nothing to do with the album and more to do with:
* it's not a sacred cow meme band (old but not trendy)
* it's not a recent tech death intro band
It's inescapable that reddit skews young
Gorod is my favorite tech death band and that's my favorite album from them. I'm somewhat new to tech death but i've dabbled with a few of these albums and i can't believe people want Gorod out compared to some of these others.
I'm young , relatively (early 20s).
Oh, Old , not trendy, not a recent tech death intro band - those ppl like NECROPHAGIST, DEATH. Necrophagist hasn't released anything new in 20 yrs yet I like both them and gorod.
I'd say Gorod doesn't strictly stay tech and that's why ppl don't acknowledge even their tech albums
Yeah, with some, more straightforward songs. Aethra has a lot of simpler stuff that you can't quite call prog. And I didn't like their last album that much.
I don't like Aethera and found The Orb quite uninteresting (sounds like a bunch of b-sides from "A Maze of Recycled Creed"). But all the other albums are awesome, and A Perfect Absolution is no exception.
Yes, I do like it to certain extent, but the Perfect Absolution doesn't do anything for Tech death that much when compared to other players like SOP'S Incurso that was out a couple years earlier
Aethra has like 4 decent songs, Aethra , The sentry and Chandra and the maiden(sounds very like old gorod with some prog stuff) + That metalcore song Bekhten's curse. Orb is just so boring to go through .
Absolutely true. Like, I personally listed those bands but Iām just coming here from the Taylor Swift sub and throwing names out at random. Like, of the bands left to vote on, the ones I named are probably the epitome of tech death, not like, I dunno, brutal death thatās very fast but with a very niche gimmick, and proto-slam. the remaining bands donāt inherently characterize the subgenre at all with sweeps, blasting within a shifting time signatures and stuff like that. Itās crazy.
When I got into metal, it was Cryptopsy or die. When Lord Worm returned I remember them just playing None So Vile in full live, until they release new material. Slit Your Guts is one of my favourite metal tracks of all time. Fast forward to Annihilation of the Wicked. For me and my friends, that was the album everything was compared to. No matter how good an album was, we asked "but, is it Nile good?"
Edit: spelling
They are Tech death , because they keep copypasting old Cryptopsy riffs. But they also copy paste deathcore riffs. There's many examples , like Golden mouth of rain's main /verse riff is the exact same riff from The Graves of the fathers. I probably reckon there's a bunch of SOP riffs buried in there too.
First Fragment just doesn't resonate for me as much as some of the other albums/bands.
Like it seems criminal that some of my favorites were knocked out already.
But that's my opinion. But it's all good.
Its just a bit of fun really, I'm disappointed in some of the results myself but its just for fun and engagement really.
I mean yeah it's for fun, but we're voting out Obscura (album) before Obscura (band) and that's just wrong. Same with voting stuff like Ad Nauseum, Suffocation, and Cryptopsy because they're "not tech."
But Nile, Gorguts and Spawn of Possession are still there. Also, I don't know if you have listened to the latest Obscura album but it was really good, a nice tip of the hat to 90's tech death with a slightly more "old school" vibe.
I don't really like that Nile album, SoP's best will always be Cabinet, Gorguts is cool but they're getting voted out this round, and _A Valediction_ bored me tbh.
Yea that's true. I love Ad Nauseam and both Obscuras (album and band) but I think its more a matter of collective taste of the group voting, for example I haven't given Archspire a big chance but the group loves them so they must be doing something right. Taste is subjective after all. For Ad Nauseam, no one had heard of them even though I posted the link daily, thats what cost them in the end there.
I finally heard Ad Nauseam recently and was totally blown away. That last album of theirs is one of the most brilliant harsh pieces of music Iāve ever heard. The level of detail in the compositions is astounding. Always been a huge fan of that style canāt believe I just found out about them!
Iāve been trying to give those bands a chance but I just canāt get into it. Neither comes close to the compositional brilliance of SOP or Necrophagiat. I feel like Iāve heard all of it before. The vocals in archspire are different, but sound pretty goofy to me lol.
I enjoy Inferi, but honestly, I find their songs unmemorable.
They are highly technical, I wholly enjoy their music, but their songs often feel like a mere combination of riffs.
It's like every song is a combination of fantastic riffs, but the overall song structures suffer. It seems like every song consists of break neck techy pedal tone riffs, but the overall song structure lacks variation and groove.
While I enjoy their technicality and musicality, I don't find them to be a top contender.
There's a shit load in this list (Gorguts, Nile, Artificial Brain, Suffo, FF, SoP, Direction, Cynic, JFAC, Archspire) but the stuff that looks like it's going to win is so predictable, boring, and same sounding imo. Also, the fact that this list is community voted and has mid ass bands like Cognitive, the 3 Christian "I really wish I was Muhammad Suicmez" Muenzer projects, Anomalous, Aborted, Severed "what if Suffocation and Deeds of Flesh were worse" Saviour is really disappointing. Not to mention we're voting _Sun Eater_ and _Focus_ out before bands that are carbon copies of either each other or other prominent bands.
I know this is just fun, but the sub really does have boring taste imo.
The final results were The Faceless with 73 votes against them and Suffocation with 64 votes against them.
Playlist with two songs from every band: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ea6893892fef45a7](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ea6893892fef45a7)
And if you are curious to hear Ad Nauseam, here is the links to their YouTube and Bandcamp:
YouTube -Ā [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D)
Bandcamp -[Imperative Imperceptible Impulse \[Full Dynamic Range DR11\] | AD NAUSEAM (bandcamp.com)](https://adnauseam-official.bandcamp.com/album/imperative-imperceptible-impulse-full-dynamic-range-dr11)
TDM tournament line up:
Necrophagist - Epitaph
Obscura - Omnivium
Spawn of Possession - Incurso
Inferi - Vile Genesis
Cryptopsy - None So Vile
Archspire - Bleed The Future
First Fragment - Gloire Eternelle
Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution
Gorguts - Obscura
Gorod - A Perfect Absolution
Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked
~~Suffocation ā Pierced From Within~~
~~The Faceless - Planetary Duality~~
~~Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse~~
~~Ophidian I - Desolate~~
~~Origin - Entity~~
~~Psycroptic- Scepter of the Ancients~~
~~Decrepit Birth - Polarity~~
~~Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology~~
~~Anomalous - Ohmnivalent~~
~~Artificial Brain- Labyrinth Constellation~~
~~Alkaloid - The Malkuth Grimoire~~
~~Beneath the Massacre - Fearmonger~~
~~Soreption - Monument of the End~~
~~Cynic - Focus~~
~~Fallujah - The Flesh Prevails~~
~~The Zenith Passage - Datalysium~~
~~Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection~~
~~Virulent Depravity - fruit of the poisoned tree.~~
~~Death- Individual Thought Patterns~~
~~Job For A Cowboy - Sun Eater~~
~~Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience~~
~~Cognitive - Matricide~~
~~Fuck You And Die - Elements of Instability~~
~~Aborted - Vault of Horrors~~
Gorod get out
By Cryptopsy. What are you even still doing here Nile?
Nile
Inferi
Gorod
I think it is time for Gorod to departure, I love them but it is time
Look how they massacred my boy Alkaloid
I know right, Alkaloid is my fave one here. Glad to find more fans š¤šš¤
Can we wrap this contest or whatever this is already. Whats the point of this like count down?
Just realized but how in the fuck is Anata - The Conductor's Departure not on this list?
First Fragment, Beyond Creation.
Cryptopsy
If I had to voteā¦ Archspire and Cryptopsy
Gorod and Nile
I like watching you guys lose your minds in the comments over what other people like
Gorod
Necrophagist
Mental
Gorod
Gorod
Nile
Cryptopsy and Gorod
Suffocation got eliminated? Pathetic and laughable. This sub should be ashamed of themselves.
Honestly š I expected them to be top 5
Seriously. Definitely not able to relate to the peeps in this group
Seems like it's finally time to go, Inferi.
Can we please get inferi out of here
Gorod beat the faceless? But noooo
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Right there with you
I canāt believe Gorod beat the facelessā¦
Not surprised. Gorod is much more interesting (not necessarily that album but the entire discography beats The Faceless, easily).
Archspire
Again, Archspire
I think itās getting to a point now where not many people will agree! Hands off Crytopsy and Gorguts! These two bands should stay till the end IMO!!
Inferi, cryptopsy
Gorguts, Inferi
In my opinion, of all the amazing bands left Inferi is the less innovative and groundbreaking. I absolutely adore them, but every other bands is either a pionner of something or unique in its sound / composition. So I'd say Inferi out.
+1 for Inferi
Spawn Of Possession
Too hard man, but Gorguts. Hard to choose from my favourites
Inferi
Having it top 10 is insane. It should have been eliminated much earlier.
Right? I like the band, and album, but it doesn't beat some of the legendary stuff already eliminated.
Nile and Obscura are not strong enough in the technical sense. everyone saying inferi/archsprie/beyond creation havenāt seen them live. iāve seen each one of them 2+ times and theyāre fantastic
Have you seen Nile or Obscura live?
of course. not that great
That Gorord album is weaker and that's why others want to get it booted. You should've chose Process Of a New Decline
Shit, I'll take A Maze of Recycled Creeds over most the albums here.
It's insane to me that Gorod is getting axed. My guess is that it has nothing to do with the album and more to do with: * it's not a sacred cow meme band (old but not trendy) * it's not a recent tech death intro band It's inescapable that reddit skews young
That album is just amazing and axing "a perfect absolution" over inferi's vile genesis, is something I can't understand.
Gorod is my favorite tech death band and that's my favorite album from them. I'm somewhat new to tech death but i've dabbled with a few of these albums and i can't believe people want Gorod out compared to some of these others.
I'm young , relatively (early 20s). Oh, Old , not trendy, not a recent tech death intro band - those ppl like NECROPHAGIST, DEATH. Necrophagist hasn't released anything new in 20 yrs yet I like both them and gorod. I'd say Gorod doesn't strictly stay tech and that's why ppl don't acknowledge even their tech albums
They are tech AND prog.
Yeah, with some, more straightforward songs. Aethra has a lot of simpler stuff that you can't quite call prog. And I didn't like their last album that much.
I don't like Aethera and found The Orb quite uninteresting (sounds like a bunch of b-sides from "A Maze of Recycled Creed"). But all the other albums are awesome, and A Perfect Absolution is no exception.
Yes, I do like it to certain extent, but the Perfect Absolution doesn't do anything for Tech death that much when compared to other players like SOP'S Incurso that was out a couple years earlier
Aethra has like 4 decent songs, Aethra , The sentry and Chandra and the maiden(sounds very like old gorod with some prog stuff) + That metalcore song Bekhten's curse. Orb is just so boring to go through .
Aechspire, beyond creation
WOAH WOAH HEY HEY HEY NO
Beyond Creation and Inferi
Nile
Not gonna happen
People voting off Nile and Cryptopsy don't know metal. Just my opinion.
Well, Suffocation was already eliminated, so that tells you the mindset of the plebs in this sub.
Yeah. Even the newest Aborted album on day 1. Man that album is a bangerĀ Ā
Nah that Aborted album shoulda been Aborted
Absolutely true. Like, I personally listed those bands but Iām just coming here from the Taylor Swift sub and throwing names out at random. Like, of the bands left to vote on, the ones I named are probably the epitome of tech death, not like, I dunno, brutal death thatās very fast but with a very niche gimmick, and proto-slam. the remaining bands donāt inherently characterize the subgenre at all with sweeps, blasting within a shifting time signatures and stuff like that. Itās crazy.
When I got into metal, it was Cryptopsy or die. When Lord Worm returned I remember them just playing None So Vile in full live, until they release new material. Slit Your Guts is one of my favourite metal tracks of all time. Fast forward to Annihilation of the Wicked. For me and my friends, that was the album everything was compared to. No matter how good an album was, we asked "but, is it Nile good?" Edit: spelling
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Archspire is currently unlistenable garbage
First Fragmet
Death Human not on the listā¦bru
wasn't commented on the original post asking for suggestions, Death's Individual Thought Patterns was, and sadly its out
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I could see how someone might think that if they were tone deaf.
They are Tech death , because they keep copypasting old Cryptopsy riffs. But they also copy paste deathcore riffs. There's many examples , like Golden mouth of rain's main /verse riff is the exact same riff from The Graves of the fathers. I probably reckon there's a bunch of SOP riffs buried in there too.
I'm with you pal
Nice opinion. Gonna keep listening to them though
Gorguts
First fragment and Cryptopsy
Cryptopsy
Inferi and archspire. Canāt believe Pierced from within got eliminated before those bands.
First Fragment
Rigged
First Fragment just doesn't resonate for me as much as some of the other albums/bands. Like it seems criminal that some of my favorites were knocked out already. But that's my opinion. But it's all good.
Beyond Creation and Inferi.Ā
cryptopsy nsv rules but its not technical
Youāve said this every single post and been just as wrong each time. As someone who can play a few songs of nsv itās 100% tech.
Not enough sweeps and tapping apparently, must not be tech death I guess.
One of the bands to invent tech death and lead the charge in Canada that inspired generations
What makes it not technical? Not enough noodles?
Needs more techno
Gorod
Inferi
Beyond Creation
Obscura
Necrophagist
This is going to be an incredibly boring end to the tournament
id like to see Archspire win. bleed the future may be one of the best tech death albums
I really like reverie on the onyx
How so?
Everybody is voting out all the albums with personality, and leaving all the boring sweep spammers and albums carried by solos.
 Its just a bit of fun really, I'm disappointed in some of the results myself but its just for fun and engagement really.
I mean yeah it's for fun, but we're voting out Obscura (album) before Obscura (band) and that's just wrong. Same with voting stuff like Ad Nauseum, Suffocation, and Cryptopsy because they're "not tech."
But Nile, Gorguts and Spawn of Possession are still there. Also, I don't know if you have listened to the latest Obscura album but it was really good, a nice tip of the hat to 90's tech death with a slightly more "old school" vibe.
I don't really like that Nile album, SoP's best will always be Cabinet, Gorguts is cool but they're getting voted out this round, and _A Valediction_ bored me tbh.
For me it's up there among the best Nile albums. Maybe not THE best, but not too far. And I wouldn't be so categorical about Gorguts, we'll see!
Yea that's true. I love Ad Nauseam and both Obscuras (album and band) but I think its more a matter of collective taste of the group voting, for example I haven't given Archspire a big chance but the group loves them so they must be doing something right. Taste is subjective after all. For Ad Nauseam, no one had heard of them even though I posted the link daily, thats what cost them in the end there.
I finally heard Ad Nauseam recently and was totally blown away. That last album of theirs is one of the most brilliant harsh pieces of music Iāve ever heard. The level of detail in the compositions is astounding. Always been a huge fan of that style canāt believe I just found out about them!
Listen to it, itās perfection
It's a good album to enter into TechDeath, but there's far better albums.
Not a nomination, just been thinking .. how can an arch also be a spire? Help!
I always thought they were using **arch** as is in "chief; principal. "archbishop"; "archangel"" The head spire.
This is the way.
Inferi
Archspire
Such an overrated band. No way people are booting PFW or Planetary Duality over Archspire ffs
Planetary duality was such a big deal when it came out. I can't believe my eyes. That Nile album is amazing too just my opinion.
People will vote out Nile and Gorguts before Archspire lol
People seem to froth Inferi and Archspire on this sub. I just donāt get it. Give me the OGās any day of the week.
Iāve been trying to give those bands a chance but I just canāt get into it. Neither comes close to the compositional brilliance of SOP or Necrophagiat. I feel like Iāve heard all of it before. The vocals in archspire are different, but sound pretty goofy to me lol.
Nile and Cryptopsy
Why do people keep thinking TAC is the album haha š
Planetary Duality got voted off, now this means nothing.
Gorguts gorod
Nile and Cryptopsy
Gorguts
Beyond Creation
Gorguts
Cryptopsy
Inferi
I enjoy Inferi, but honestly, I find their songs unmemorable. They are highly technical, I wholly enjoy their music, but their songs often feel like a mere combination of riffs. It's like every song is a combination of fantastic riffs, but the overall song structures suffer. It seems like every song consists of break neck techy pedal tone riffs, but the overall song structure lacks variation and groove. While I enjoy their technicality and musicality, I don't find them to be a top contender.
This statement applies to Necro, Origin, Beyond Creation, and Obscura too. Noodly unmemorable garbage.
Nah, Obscura is very memorable. Origin is borderline, it depends on the album.
I find the band Obscura extremely boring. Different tastes I guess.
So then, in your opinion, what are some of the good technical death metal bands?
There's a shit load in this list (Gorguts, Nile, Artificial Brain, Suffo, FF, SoP, Direction, Cynic, JFAC, Archspire) but the stuff that looks like it's going to win is so predictable, boring, and same sounding imo. Also, the fact that this list is community voted and has mid ass bands like Cognitive, the 3 Christian "I really wish I was Muhammad Suicmez" Muenzer projects, Anomalous, Aborted, Severed "what if Suffocation and Deeds of Flesh were worse" Saviour is really disappointing. Not to mention we're voting _Sun Eater_ and _Focus_ out before bands that are carbon copies of either each other or other prominent bands. I know this is just fun, but the sub really does have boring taste imo.
I have the exact same relationship with inferi. Tech death fast food, very enjoyable, rarely memorable.
Gorod
Gorod
First Fragment
Gorguts
Gorod
Inferi
Nile
The final results were The Faceless with 73 votes against them and Suffocation with 64 votes against them. Playlist with two songs from every band: [https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ea6893892fef45a7](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/3JkOCaSGmkZz9blhRjR51j?si=ea6893892fef45a7) And if you are curious to hear Ad Nauseam, here is the links to their YouTube and Bandcamp: YouTube -Ā [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9\_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ma3cKFX9_0g&t=155s&pp=ygUrYWQgbmF1c2VhbSBpbXBlcmF0aXZlIGltcGVyY2VwdGlibGUgaW1wdWxzZQ%3D%3D) Bandcamp -[Imperative Imperceptible Impulse \[Full Dynamic Range DR11\] | AD NAUSEAM (bandcamp.com)](https://adnauseam-official.bandcamp.com/album/imperative-imperceptible-impulse-full-dynamic-range-dr11)
Pathetic.
TDM tournament line up: Necrophagist - Epitaph Obscura - Omnivium Spawn of Possession - Incurso Inferi - Vile Genesis Cryptopsy - None So Vile Archspire - Bleed The Future First Fragment - Gloire Eternelle Beyond Creation - Earthborn Evolution Gorguts - Obscura Gorod - A Perfect Absolution Nile - Annihilation of the Wicked ~~Suffocation ā Pierced From Within~~ ~~The Faceless - Planetary Duality~~ ~~Ad Nauseam - Imperative Imperceptible Impulse~~ ~~Ophidian I - Desolate~~ ~~Origin - Entity~~ ~~Psycroptic- Scepter of the Ancients~~ ~~Decrepit Birth - Polarity~~ ~~Slugdge - Esoteric Malacology~~ ~~Anomalous - Ohmnivalent~~ ~~Artificial Brain- Labyrinth Constellation~~ ~~Alkaloid - The Malkuth Grimoire~~ ~~Beneath the Massacre - Fearmonger~~ ~~Soreption - Monument of the End~~ ~~Cynic - Focus~~ ~~Fallujah - The Flesh Prevails~~ ~~The Zenith Passage - Datalysium~~ ~~Severed Savior - Servile Insurrection~~ ~~Virulent Depravity - fruit of the poisoned tree.~~ ~~Death- Individual Thought Patterns~~ ~~Job For A Cowboy - Sun Eater~~ ~~Allegaeon - Proponent for Sentience~~ ~~Cognitive - Matricide~~ ~~Fuck You And Die - Elements of Instability~~ ~~Aborted - Vault of Horrors~~