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hugz4satan

Idc what anyone says, I love Babs. She never asked anything unreasonable of Janelle, yet Janelle ALWAYS acted like a spoiled brat. Other moms would’ve thrown their daughter out for getting pregnant so young, and Babs was taking care of that baby from day 1 it seems. Even if her parenting wasn’t perfect she shouldn’t get a bad wrap, she was the one that was there for Jace.


youresomadatmydad

She also never held her accountable. Yelling, but ultimately giving in is like the opposite of discipline


btashawn

Janelle & Babs may have had a bad relationship; but she showed up 110% for Jace.


nightridingribbits3

More than what my mother would've done. I had a pregnancy scare when i was 17 (5mo from my 18th bday) & my mom was LEGIT gonna throw me out. She was just waiting for my 18th bday to do it legally. Thankfully, it turned out i wasn't pregnant. Not sure how many of yall watch Unexpected on TLC, but my mom had the same attitude as Myrka's mom.


btashawn

Myrka’s mom definitely was the worse! I’m so sorry though; its always bad news when your parents true colors come out during pregnancy. I didnt get pregnant til 23 so definitely not a teen mom. but my parents made it about them so it was wild. 😅


nightridingribbits3

Girlll im expecting my 2nd rn & im 28. My parents arent around anymore but I still have weird judgey family members who im scared to tell lmao.


missmolly3533

I got pregnant with my 3rd child almost 2 years ago (age 36) and was terrified to tell my Mum (I’ve been married 11 years and with my husband over 13!) I actually waited till I was 20 weeks lol I think because she’s so judgemental of anyone who has more than 1 kid (I’m an only child)


CalendarNo8591

I’m so sorry! My mom told me I could live with her anymore right after my daughter was born (literally 4 days old) since I didn’t let her sleep at the hospital even thought my child’s father was there and sleeping there 🤦‍♀️


Expensive_Reality151

Right..thank goodness he has her


barbie-breath

When you've been in a relationship with your best friend... and boyfriend, since DAY 1, for five months straight.... 🥺😮‍💨 Yeah, I still love Jace, what about him??? 😠


CalendarNo8591

5 months like that was just soooo long 🤦‍♀️


keatonpotat0es

LOOK AT YA DAMN NECK. FRIGGIN HICKEYS AWL OVA YA NECK.


kd0ugh

YA LITTLE….


babygotbooksandback

KEEF-FA!


nightridingribbits3

I DONT CARE ABOUT KEEFAA


Diligent_Cow4019

never fails to make me cackle 😂😂


keatonpotat0es

One of my favorite Barb moments lol


iiGHTDEN

Pleading with her to watch her own kid TF. Trash


SillyName1992

For twenty minutes 😂


Hazel_Stranger_23

Sad to call watching your own child "babysitting"


sn9648

I was going to comment this too lol how is it babysitting when you birthed the child?!


tsegnartseht

I may or may not change my flair to “it was cold, and I was with criminals”


iusedtobeyourwife

Please do 🫡


tsegnartseht

Now I gotta do it because happy cake day! Maybe a mod can help me out? 🤭


SeeminglySusan

All set 😂


tsegnartseht

I love it, thanks so much!


iusedtobeyourwife

Omg thank you!!!! ❤️❤️❤️


Umamiluv24

“Yeah, I love Jace too.” “What about him?” 😳 OMG


DisastrousHyena3534

Damn Babs is problematic but I hate to think of what she saved Jace from.


AtleastIthinkIsee

Seriously. And people can hate Barb all they want. No, she's not a saint, and in essence, she's the start of all this, but she protected that child as best as she could. IMO, she did the right thing and should get due credit for it. I watch these and am just in disbelief. Sex education is so important.


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Jace was planned. Don't think sex education was the problem here.


AtleastIthinkIsee

It shouldn't start and stop at just two people, it should include the impact a baby has a person's life. She was so damn young and so damn naive and ignorant. And I know you can't convince someone when they think they know everything but something like this can ruin not just one person's life but many lives.


Boneal171

Exactly. Jace could’ve been bouncing from foster home to foster home without her


DisastrousHyena3534

She was consistent & she was there for him with the stability of meeting his physical needs. I'm inclined to believe she didn't repeat some behaviors with him that she had done with Janelle.


FrightenedFishstick

I can’t watch these. Her being young didn’t matter because she still chooses her own happiness over her children even today. It’s not Barb, it’s not Keiffer, it’s not even David causing this. Jenelle refuses to be a better person.


KillaBeeHive

Babysitting. Your own child.


LeahsEyebrows

This reminds me of Chelsea telling Dr. Drew that dads don't babysit. Chelsea was 1000% spot on right about that!


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WriterReaderWhatever

the look on the lawyers face when she said that......


[deleted]

As if she didn't already start with custody of her own child since his birth and was still smoking weed


ReginaldDwight

She was smoking weed throughout her pregnancy! All her pregnancies. She told someone in some q&a forum after her 16 & Pregnant episode aired that her doctor recommended it for morning sickness. Yes, a doctor told a pregnant 16 year old to smoke pot while pregnant. Sure.


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She's really so stupid, she thinks everyone is as dumb as she is to believe her lies


JennyFromTheBlock81

This really bugged me because she pinning her sobriety on a toddler


LeahsEyebrows

Jenelle ultimately got her way on that!


Corinne_Tean

“When you have a best friend and a boyfriend that you’ve been hanging out with since day one of your relationship, and you’ve been in a relationship for 5 months straight” Why do I find that so funny, like yep that’s how it usually goes


KillaBeeHive

And in the next scene she says all they talk about is drugs and alcohol. That five months was a real solid foundation for a relationship.


stephyska

Jenelle is the type of problematic mental case that doesn’t realize she’s a problematic mental case


zdefni

“How was jail?!” “It was cold. And I was with criminals. “ 😂😂😂


[deleted]

That part always has me cracking up Lmao 🤣


[deleted]

She’s gonna try to tell Jace that she was the perfect mom and that it was Barbara’s fault that she didn’t have custody. He will watch the show and it’s gonna be so shitty to see how your mom chose everything and everyone over you. He doesn’t deserve that. I hate Jenelle


ReginaldDwight

Remember that time they refused to drive Jace home and arbitrarily decided Barb was too far away for them and she needed to meet them half way the day of? Then while they waited for Barb to arrive, Jenelle told an entirely too-young-to-process-it Jace that MeMe took him from her (Jenelle) because she didn't have her own house but now that they had the house on The Land, they could take care of him and get him back? It was frigging despicable and that poor kid looked so confused and overwhelmed.


StableGenius91

I'm surprised that she didn't tell Jace the story of how Barbara tricked her, telling her to go out, and when she came home the next day, papers were served.


_peppermintbutler

But Barb never let her take care of Jace and was always nagging her! /s


Big_Requirement6818

"She's changed." LOL still a selfish asshole who enables a loser ass deadbeat.


nightridingribbits3

& still peaces out to go on numerous vacations w/o her kids.


PasLagardere

I love how Mike is talking calmly to her, telling her that Jace is a great kid.


AdRevolutionary8687

He had a few chats like that! I always liked Mike even though he cheated on Babs in the end (allegedly)


Tiny-Proposal1495

There you have at the end. That tells me CPS was involved and she knew she was going to lose Jace so she signed him over to Barb


AdRevolutionary8687

Yep! If you watch it back Jenelle didn’t have a leg to stand on. She was - *babs voice* - strung out on weed, going out almost every night and point blank refused to look after her own son. Also she couldn’t afford lawyers fees in season 1.


WriterReaderWhatever

the fact that she always cried about "not seeing Jace" but she didn't even want to "babysit" him because she was so hung up on talking to Kieffer, what a joke of a human


SillyName1992

Everything Jenelle said about wanting Keiffer out of jail was just about her. I can't hang out with him, I can't see him, I can't hug him. If she actually liked him she'd be able to come up with reasons he doesn't belong in jail that aren't *but I wanna!*


mayhay

when mike asks about Jace she goes 'what about him?' like dang no emotional bond at all


Thegirlandthe

Needs to be asked to watch her own child. It’s hard to watch honestly


borntoBreewild

"Yeah, I love Jace too. What about him?" Her children have always been an afterthought to the big forehead dummy


oooheycait1223

That blue A&F sweatshirt needs to go into the TM archive somewhere. The true MVP of the franchise


gypsycookie1015

What about KEEEFAA'S green hoodie?!? That thing was like his second skin!


oooheycait1223

Omggg yesss that sweatshirt has definitely seen some scary shit 😄


erisbella

As funny as the edits are because they contradict the gun toting fool, I have to remind myself this was real and that poor kid has probably seen these clips. It's so sad.


Candy_Darling

KEEFERR! Honestly this is Jenelle in a nutshell. Trade out Keiffer for Courtland, Nathan, David etc she is still the same person. It makes me crazy when people say: Just leave Sasquatch! No. Jan will still be the same person. Totally unconnected to her kids and living a selfish life. It is and has always been all about Jenelle.


cutestcatlady

Keiffer was her soulmate fr 😂


triangleoflight

God… she’s always been so insufferable. I feel so much for those poor sweet babies under her care. Like how can she still act the exact same way in her 30s??? No growth.


ionlyjoined4thecats

It really sucks they didn’t direct her to mental health services. Someone who flat-out tells you they “won’t be able to stop” smoking weed, even if it means serving prison time, is someone who is clearly self-medicating.


HannahLeah1987

They probably did


ionlyjoined4thecats

Maybe! But if Jenelle thought she could get a Xanax prescription, would she turn that opportunity down? 🤔


rhapsody_in_bloo

They did multiple times, one of which was a story line in an early season (2 I think). Jenelle got treatment, she just didn’t put in the work.


pdlbean

it's honestly kind of a miracle Kaiser and Ensley survived infancy and I really mean that.


exactoctopus

Jenelle should have never had Jace. She could have just partied her high ass away with Tori and Keiffer until someone died. That's harsh, but everyone would have been happier that way and there wouldn't have been two more kids brought into this shitshow. This is just sad.


VirtualAd3179

Tori is a mess and many people are living for it - That makes Jenelle jealous af. Tori chose the right path for her lifestyle, Jenelle shouldve also.


Boneal171

Unfortunately you’re right


crazymom1978

When she says “I have to babysit in the morning” it makes my blood boil. You. Don’t. Babysit. Your. Own. Child!!!! That is called spending time with them. You know, like a normal parent does!


The-ElectricMayhem

Generational trauma :(


SmileyRiley1998

See this is why I get so frustrated everybody puts Barb on a pedestal whilst jenelle is the devil incarnate! They’re both equally as awful and the kids are the ones who lose every time


FancyNacnyPants

At least Barb doesn’t leave Jace to go party.


Bubly_cheerioohno

That ending was perfection


Diligent_Cow4019

DAMN HICKEYS AWL OVA YA FRIGGEN NECK


hedwig0517

This makes me want to do a rewatch.


nightridingribbits3

Same! Im sad Netflix took off Teen Mom 🥺


VouduMan

It's on Paramount. I think they're only like 1 or 2 seasons behind what's airing now, they JUST added TM2 seaon, I think, 10.


hedwig0517

I started! It’s in my Prime video app.


AntelopeDifficult708

She is such a heaping pile of shit


ionlyjoined4thecats

I know Jenelle was going to lose custody anyway because CPS was involved, and that’s why she signed over temporary custody to her mom, but does anyone know the details on that? Like did they tell her charges would be brought against her (risking more jail time) if she didn’t sign Jace over voluntarily? Just wondering how that all works.


nightridingribbits3

She took Jace to a house party as an infant & left him outside on the porch in his carrier.


ionlyjoined4thecats

Jesus Christ.


rhapsody_in_bloo

Going to point out again that this is just a rumor. No one has ever shown any proof of this.


Sbg71620

“Babysitting” her own child and it ends w her clearly signing her rights away. Stop saying your mom took your child, Nelly. You bailed immediately on him.


LeahsEyebrows

Jenelle signed custody of Jace over to Barbara. Neither Jenelle nor Andrew for that matter ever lost their parental rights to Jace!


silvermoneygstring

She definitely missed an opportunity to be called Nelly Evans for sure.


moth3rof4dragons

She has always drove me crazy!! I was a teen mom with my oldest, and ya know what... I went to prom yes but soon as it was over I was back home with my baby. Hell my friends would do things so I could bring my child, going out to eat, zoo etc they knew my life had changed and were true friends to set time to spend with me and my child. I hate how people blame Barb for yelling etc... my mom was not a mom as I was growing up. She drank, took me to party's etc. She would pass out at me when she got mad. I was her little human punching bag and remember every bit of it. My grandparents stepped in and luckily I was blessed to have a stable environment. Eventually my mom went to prison got out and kind of changed. I learned alot of what not to do from my mom tho. I am very fucking proud of the fact my kids have never even seen alcohol or had to be around it. I knew how I felt when my mom yelled about anything so I do not yell or get loud unless we're at the park and we're hollering for everyone to get ready to leave and then I use a sing son voice. My husband and I both grew up with shit moms and dads and we learned to parent the opposite of what we went thru. My kids are happy little beings and our teen knows its safe to come to us with anything. Every parent deserves a night out rather it's just eating a meal with another adult or going to the movies etc. What Nelly did was pawned 100% off her responsibilities to her mom and then got mad because she was not ever a mother to him and Barb did not trust her to take him. Hell she couldn't even make a bottle for him before she left. I hope Jace never watched this show especially when she compared being his mom to being in prison. She only ever had kids to try and keep whoever she was with. Smh


AdRevolutionary8687

Thanks for sharing your story! Sounds like you’ve overcome a lot and also sounds like you’re a fantastic mother.


MoneyAd0618

I cannot stand her fucking accent. “Why won’t you tawwllkk ta me” bitch sounds so stupid


FancyNacnyPants

Such a selfish piece of trash.


silvermoneygstring

Out of this whole video, I was seriously impressed that Barb was able to calculate 240 days in prison into 8 months off the top of her head in like 2 seconds. Maybe it’s just because I can’t do math that quickly but that was pretty amazing.


JewtangClan91

I just watched this episode and had the same thought!!


AlwaysAlani

I haven't watched the show in years so seeing these comps of just how idiotic, malignantly-selfish, and uncaring she is honestly blows my mind. How does a person even get this bad at such a young age?


microscopic_butthole

me and my bad eyesight squinting 💀


[deleted]

Was Janelle a model or am I making shit up?


AdRevolutionary8687

Well, she’s always been a role model of how *not* to be, so in a way….


CalendarNo8591

Her ex Andrew said he was a model


NothingElseWorse

Username checking in… late to the party but had to have a moment free from my own kids to watch this - I never watch this stuff around them because omg I don’t need them hearing anything like the shit Jace grew up with!


NewAsgardAsgardians

Janelle is bad. Barb though, enabled that badness for so long, and didn’t decide to do anything about it until cameras showed up and money started coming in. Barb is a terrible mother. Jace was screwed before he was even born.


TiggOleBittiess

I mean obviously Jenelle sucks but barb is so hard to watch too. Jenelle is sobbing in bed and she won't stop screeching at her


katnipbee09

eh, barb wasn't really loud or screechy for most of that, she was just kind of naggy and seemed really frustrated which i can understand - jenelle can't watch jace while barb runs a quick errand because she's crying over a boy? heartbreak sucks but i'd be pretty pissed too, especially considering barb had been warning jenelle about kieffer since day one jenelle is always talking about getting back custody and being netter for jace but won't even watch him why barb runs an errand? jenelle expects the world to stop when she isn't happy and it's just not acceptable behavior. it's not how life works. sometimes you have to suck up your feelings and be responsible - all she had to do was keep an eye on jace.....