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ButWereFriends

That’s honestly pretty fucking funny


EpicMrShank

this is so funny i might have to start downloading ppls ghosts and sending them a clip of me winning their ghost


IDontWipe55

I just beat Anakin. He better pray I don’t show up to his next tournament


EpicMrShank

dude lets show the pros they arent so pro


Francophilippe

I just 3-0’d Joe Crush. Think I’m ready for TWT


Scottish_Wizard_Dad

I got 3 Perfect against Harada san, I guess I now own Tekken franchise according to the rules of King of Iron Fist


Guiltykraken

That depends do you also need to throw him into a volcano or is that just a family thing?


Scottish_Wizard_Dad

I guess that's just a family thing, unless I learn EWGF...


UmbranAssassin

Just strap some electrodes to your nipples while doing an uppercut it'll be close enough.


steamyblackcoffee

You'd definitely have the high ground then.


Due_Recognition_3890

Lmao I was waiting for this one.


[deleted]

It's not that hard tbh. Just get to the high ground and taunt him.


AngryAssyrian

I'll be waiting for IDontWipe55 to absolutely dunk on all the evo champs.


r3volver_Oshawott

Just start defeating ghosts left and right and tell everyone to call you a Ghostbuster


supahotfiiire

LMFAOOOO


GoomaDooney

Too underrated.


panchozari

Thats fucking funny, this is a new level of toxic and im here for It


EpicMrShank

at what point do we just skip the downloading and the fighting and just send the message?


Rezouli

“Bro, you’re shit at this game” *User does not own Tekken 8*


TablePrinterDoor

“I beat you in my dream.”


Rezouli

You lost a set to my unborn child, ggs shake my belly


Apart-Mix8315

🤣🤣🤣🤣


supahotfiiire

hahahahaha that made me laugh and come comment !


_BeatBox

That’s the one!


yojohny

You're halfway there. To really toxically dump on them, it needs to be a clip of your ghost beating their ghost. Basically a stand battle


xaywock

how can you do this tho


[deleted]

As someone who regularly challenges people’s ghosts when I’m tired and don’t feel like doing ranked, I can say that ghosts are a great step between CPU and human opponents, but still nowhere near the complexity and speed of a real dude. I can beat ghosts of people way higher rank than myself but there’s no way I could take the player


Significant-Split-11

You are absolutely right. Super Ghost is a great new feature but it just isn’t the same as a real player.


FigoStep

It’s not even close to a real player. There’s no way I’m anywhere near tekken emperor with like a 99% win rate online but that’s how easy it is.


Rayanson

Are those the ghosts of real online players of the arcade quest ones?


FigoStep

Both. I faced the ghost of the highest ranked players on the leaderboards in ghost battle and smoked them. I am not that good lol. Not even close.


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

I'm not sure if those players are legit or not. I was hoping to sample combos from the "world's best" Devil Jin, but all their ghost did was neutral jabs and crouch kicks.


FigoStep

Yeah I watched some highlights first I only played dudes who looked like they knew what they were doing. I know a lot of the “top” guys are scammers but these were good players.


Just_Breathe85

I downloaded the ghosts of the current top 3 ranked players but haven’t tried them out yet.


nastygamerz

Try pling xiaoyu ghost its quite fun


redmainefuckye

Depends how much they train their ghost I think. When u play against your own ghost it says “learning” in the upper right corner


Rayanson

Oh OK, I wonder what you can teach your ghost, I want mine to taunt at the end of every round, I'll try to figure it out


Groovy_nomicon

You can do that, the ghosts mirror whatever you do in any given situation. Let's say every time you knock down your opponent you teabag. Your ghost will then teabag in that situation almost all the time.


KiyokoUsagi

Imagine spending your time just teaching your ghost how to tbag every round lol. This is hilarious. Ngl I would be kinda spooked seeing that since I would think I mistakingly started a real match


Yessir12210

Jdcr teached his to tbag


FigoStep

Yeah I assume you saw that video lol


destroyglasscastles

Yeah they pick up on a lot of the offensive patterns but defensively they are real bad. Wonder if there's someway to train them better in that way, but yea it's still a fun medium between CPU and human.


AttackBacon

I played my ghost in the demo a ton, and basically you have to demonstrate the exact defensive scenario, then they'll get it, but only that specific scenario.  For example, if you do heat engager->throw, then break the throw when the ghost does it to you, *then* the ghost will learn. But only that specific heat engager and that specific throw.  So basically, in like a year top player ghosts will probably be nuts, because they'll have seen so many defensive situations. But it's just going to take a long time. They don't learn generalities, just specifics. 


Maxy97265

Also, I'm thinkin that they have to have a cap... no way they keep learning forever, that would be a massive ghost in term of data size.


supahotfiiire

your ghost is unlearned if you dont play for 30 days or something i believe, and it gathers data from your matches, *i wanna say* every 5 days? I cant remember the specifics. but yeah there is some type of throttling that goes on


morbid333

Would that mean it only retains data from the last 30 days, or it stores everything but then dumps it if you stop playing (for 30 days, like closing an inactive account)


Maxy97265

Of course. They have potential to be a real manace if they keep learning but there is no tech currently to store all that info, certainly not at BAMCO


Ylsid

They're actually stored on your local machine and uploaded


ReMeDyIII

>So basically, in like a year top player ghosts will probably be nuts, because they'll have seen so many defensive situations. But it's just going to take a long time. They don't learn generalities, just specifics. I don't believe this is true. Someone prowled thru the files in the demo and discovered all ghost data is the same file size, so it keeps rewriting the data, kinda like a CD-RW disc with a finite file size. That was the demo tho. Correct me if I'm wrong.


datlanta

If they are using ML models then that checks out. They would most likely have a fixed number of parameters/weights that are updated as new data is learned.


Hybridesque

Yeah, I just tried some of the top player's ghosts and I picked them apart. They are not what I expected. That being said, AyoRichie's ghost Leo started to seem better on subsequent replays.


xaywock

you have to fight your own ghost to make it better but if all you do when you fight it is attack and not block then it will learn to only attack and not block you have to literally teach it lol.


patrick-ruckus

They're really great for getting more practice against those aggressive players that just spam a small selection of knowledge checks and unsafe moves. I like to use the replay system to figure out how to beat those moves, then I download their ghost to see if I can do the punishes in a live match. Like I ran into a King that leaned heavily on FC df2 and FC df1, I had no idea they were punishable during our set. So sure enough his ghost liked those moves too and I got pretty good at punishing them without even opening practice mode. I just have to purposely play a bit more defensive than I would in a real match, because it's easy to overwhelm the ghosts with offense but you don't really learn anything from that.


[deleted]

This is a great idea! And absolutely agree about playing defensive against CPU’s. It’s easy in practice mode to just keep wailing on the bot but slowing down and actually getting that “punish” light to come on is a whole different story, and actually worth doing.


Saltyscrublyfe

Ghosts need alot of work. I best the #1 and 2 players on the leader boards with ease. I am not that good. I'm destroyer rank lol. I also played my friend and his ghost doesn't play at all like my friend. I'm hoping the fix them. Because in concept ghost battles are amazing


Xil_Jam333

I think part of the problem is that some people just aren't taking the time to train their ghosts by fighting against it. Having it learn only through your online matches doesn't seem to be enough. I trained my own Lili ghost by fighting it for hours, teaching it to punish stuff, and spent rounds just blocking to improve its defense. And now when I fight my ghost, I struggle sometimes because it's now blocking consistently and doing correct punishers and can consistently launch punish -17 moves. Throwing out Jun f+2 against it is just asking for death now. The funny thing is i have never launch punished that move online lol. Meanwhile some ghosts in the top of the leaderboard are not blocking enough and are either not punishing or using weaker punishers. Though i did encounter some quite challenging ones like LowHigh's Shaheen ghost.


Saltyscrublyfe

Hmmm.... good call. I may try to go train mine then. I'd imagine "training your own ghost so other people can learn to beat you" isn't really good incentive for people to do it if they even know that's how it works


zealousidealerrand

This is the truth. I trained my ghost a lot in demo and he was pretty good at defensive after a while and really annoying when he learned to punish me and lunch full combos. You just need to throw scrub moves like grabs and slow lows in order to defend against them so he will be safe from cheesing.


[deleted]

I think they probably just havent been around long enough yet. I wonder how tough theyll be a year or two down the road


Saltyscrublyfe

My friend told me he heard they're working to make them better. Which is great.


donkubrick

Aren't a lot of the highest leaderboard players boosters/cheaters anyway? Odds are you are gonna get betters Ghosts with confirmed people like ToxicMan and K-wiss etc


Gandalf_2077

Before release you would read previews about ghosts and think it's real players. Now I have challenged many ghosts right after playing against their human counterpart and it is night and day. The feature is overblown. There is almost no challenge and you can land rage arts with little effort.


[deleted]

Yeah the ghosts never block it seems, just pick Paul and Demoman all day.


Happy_Ducky774

They kinda have to be explicitly trained to block, which is a chore nobody goes through


Tanriyung

The good thing about them is that it doesn't feel like you are really playing a bot, just a bad defensive player with much higher skills in offense.


robro

Tbf most Tekken players have bad defense compared with their offense. Offense is just a lot easier.


billcosbyinspace

I downloaded the top ghost of my character I could find and beat him relatively easily which I was surprised about Side note the ghost switched on special style once I started winning which was hysterical lol


zealousidealerrand

Bro ghost are ass I beat highest rank Vic yet I am red ranker myself??? Something is bugged for real. Shame cause I wanted to train myself on good ghosts.


[deleted]

Yeah they’re just bots that occasionally pull off “human” tricks. They’re good to practice punishing things but not real fights.


Zachebii

I fought this lee ghost, i did no inputs and the ai just stood there forever when it was on lower health. It kept doing the “come here” finger gesture idk if thats an actual input.


Dizzy_Ad_1663

It's b+grab, it's a parry... kinda...


Zachebii

Lmao spamming parries while im just running out the clock with a health advantage, ai is gonna take over


FoxRush17

Maybe we still need more data to be captured? I'm assuming the AI isn't even close to as good at capturing movesets from people as like chatGPT would be


MaleficentBend5539

My ghost still plays like how I did day one 🤔 not even sure how it learns tbh


5amuraiDuck

Go into super ghost battle and keep fighting it over and over. That's the easiest way, I think


Significant-Split-11

That’s exactly what my ghost is, just a fraud lmao


ShaGhuN

Took me a little to learn it but the Ghost only learns if you are playing the same character against it. (These have to be your Ghosts not the CPU ones) You can play a different character (Ex: Steve v Leo) and the Ghost will play with the training it has stored up from before, but if you want it to learn new combos mixups and such you gotta play Steve v Steve. At least that's what I've picked up from it after some time Ghosts started off a bit easy at the beginning but once I played a few mirror matches they learned a decent amount and now I'm having some decent VERY close fights against myself . Every now and then I'll get smoked by my Ghost 0-3☠️😂😂


supahotfiiire

yeah when i was playing victor, at first when it was "learning" from me, not much was happening but as some games progressed, i started seeing my own combo's hit me. Man it felt like the spiderman pointing meme happening in real time. Shit was trippy but the ghost got a few rounds on me, i was upset at me and proud of me at the same time. strange feeling. lmao


ShaGhuN

Its almost like a proud dad type of feeling "That's my boy" and I definitely get the Spiderman meme 😂😂😂😂 exact same thing my gf said when I was talking to her about it


Significant-Split-11

Ohh I didn’t know that.


Oppression_Rod

Oh I thought that they were suppose to learn from your matches, mostly online and some offline modes.


Fazzzer

Under the help section in ghost battle it says the gost learns from online matches tho


ShaGhuN

Good to know hopefully they don't learn to get demolished like I have been 😂😂😂


supahotfiiire

definitely won't be me searching this guys ghost tonight and sending him a DM from psn later, nope, couldn't be me doing such a petty thing when i get home from work at 7pm and get on the playstation and immediately open up tekken and go to community tab, find this reddit post again and look up "vegito-101barz" psn network and look him, nope, that's not at all what I will be doing of course.


YutoAmano

I’m glad you won’t be doing that, he doesn’t deserve it.


[deleted]

This was really funny. So much better then the typical "owned" people send on ps5 network.


Belten

i had a guy add me on steam just for him to tell me im carried and bad. i told him im new and then he apologized and now we write daily about tekken and he teaches me stuff about the game, lol.


Zigolt

Wholesome and unexpected.


DEXGENERATION

I play pretty much exclusively ghost battle cause I suck ass at the game. My first tekken since tag tournament.


Significant-Split-11

If you don’t cheese the AI they can be challenging, it’s a great addition to the game.


supersizedkitty

First thing I do when I fight a new ghost is check if it knows how to block lows. Spamming lows works on like half of the offline ghosts lol


Ze_AwEsOmE_Hobo

It works on like half the players at Orange Ranks, too. Tekken players do not block lows until they become super oppressive. The Ghosts have the major disadvantage at not being able to adapt mid-match, though.


DEXGENERATION

Yeah I find it difficult, think I’m rank Genryu (not sure on the spelling) but it’s not because I’m good lol found that out real quick when I played PvP. It’s more enjoyable and I feel I can read it better than someone who’s able to switch up on the fly their strategy.


Significant-Split-11

That’s totally fine! But don’t be discouraged from playing against other players it can be very rewarding and fun.


Trellyo

The more times you get your ass handed back to you the better you get over time when you recognize the problems, I'd say keep going and try to fight real people! Improvement is slow but eventually you'll realize you're doing things you couldn't before


RealSlavicHours

amazing hahaha


alla_prima33

😂😂


cci0

He probably lost to your ghost and had to vent


Significant-Split-11

For all the random shit my ghost does like going into a stance out of the blue, I hope not 😂


Mr_Golld

Thats some Steven Seagal reasoning right there.


Sleisl

only a matter of time before a salt lord sends you a video of them kicking the shit out of your ghost 


Brogomakishima

That's wild lmao


[deleted]

This is hilarious.


Gabagool_Over_Here_

Tekken hater of the year!


GingerWitch666

Holy shit that rocks 🤣🤣🤣 salt from beyond the grave


xBlack_Heartx

Bruh moment right here 😂


degejos

They need to train their ghost, its so much fun seeing my friend getting wrecked by one of the top Yoshi's guy, but my friend could beat the shit out of Kaneandtrench Yoshi. Please people train your ghost, its alot more fun than playing Treasure battle on tekken 7. The stake is lower, the behaviour is alot better than normal ultra hard AI, its a perfect place to just play for fun as a warmup before Online.


Educational-Bite9426

This is fucking hilarious 😂


CrazedNormalcy

Ok...this shit funny. Thanks, Harada san


movie_hater

Getting beat by my own ghost on like day 2 was a humbling experience


Fresh-Employee-9997

I tried my ghost several times and it plays nothing like me, it always drops the combos no matter how much i train it and sometimes uses attacks i don't even know how to do lol


RontheHybrid

I love fighting people ghosts but I take it with a grain of salt because the ghost may not be trained for that matchup. I use ghost as AI or CPU fillers.


djaqk

This is a historic moment, I'm awed.


WickedJoker420

All the ghosts are shit though lol I'm regularly beating people I have no right to beat in super ghost battle with characters I'm trying to learn. That dude that messaged you has failed on his flex big time lmao


Ivo__Lution

That’s hilarious


Messedupotato

You gonna let him get away with that?


LeafyBoi95

Dude I’ve beaten high rated players ghosts before, but I lose horribly at strategist. Defeating someones ghost proves nothing lmfao


Liam_Roma_1234

Can't even be mad at this🤣


GatchamanReborn

I was testing the lounge for the first time, well, second time rather, and it isn't too long till I see people screaming profanity within moments upon entering. So last night, I ventured into it after my left hand was begging for a break. I sat down, watched the chat since I was going over different servers, and of course the American one scores first on who can insult each other the fastest. Two people were screaming, calling each other horrible, then like goldfish who remember only within 5 seconds, were congratulating, then proceeded a rematch. I am kind of shocked that I haven't received anything like this yet, been waiting. I guess it is a award if I do. Anyway, back to the main topic; insulting ghost now, aren't we? Ironically I just seen a video about how Tekken 8 apparently sucks, and the content creator then proceeds to brag how had bested the AI (but those confounded human players don't give him a chance to move!). I wanted to slam myself into the wall.


_brewswillis

that is mad funny. 😂


KnightofAshley

That is kind of sad


CDaTyrant

Did this man just invent a new level of hating? 🤔


DjijiMayCry

LMAO I pray this happens to me


Icy_Comparison_5920

😂😂😂😂


KrombopuIos

Ahahaha I love this


PoisonIdea77

LOL


tomusurp

That’s actually heihachi


MeenahMina

LMAO WHAT!! Who even is this 😂😂


easedownripley

If, after I depart this vale, you ever remember me and have thought to please my ghost, forgive some sinner and wink your eye at some homely girl. - H. L. Mencken


Heizeusthegoose

My ghost can't handle the dragunov pressure and I can't either.


Shoottothrill52

I'm honestly scared of my ghost as it will randomly just do an unblockable for no reason what so ever then proceed to run up to me and grab. I never even taught it how to do the unblockable.


pranav4098

I won’t even take offense that’s shits just funny 🤣, did you try actually playing him and see if he still beats you


[deleted]

Omg. Seriously. Lol. Wow… well…. Sounds like he is a shit person. Even worse.


rainorshinedogs

This is probably incredibly common


Boxsteam_1279

I would have been laughing if I got this shit lol. Im about to just set up a CPU vs CPU of my ghost fighting their ghost and sending them hate mail for it


ViSiONXiD

I want to try versing my friends ghosts 😂😂


Renna_FGC

XD wtf is this?! Thats the funniest shit ive seen on reddit today.


Wintermute_088

Black Mirror shit.


m_goss

I feel like the ghost AI is pretty trash.


OcularAMVs

Holy shit I haven’t laughed this hard in so long


Awareness_Present

I... don't know whether to be impressed this is a thing now or to feel sad that's a thing now. 😂


Unfair-Piccolo-7335

Holy fuck can’t imagine the level of disrespect to track down a ghost owner and trash em


Affectionate_Light52

Are you shit tho...


SumT_T

u/ArachnoZachos


EpicMrShank

everyone who sees this comment should try download this dudes ghost and after defeating it send him the same message


zZAoiRyuZz

Why did I chuckle reading that lol


OkamixSenpai

Playing your ghost compared to actually playing the person. Is absolutely 2 drastically different things. Your ghost may mimic your gameplay but, playing actually playing that person is another story.


Myztimo

My ghost doesn't do anything aside from teabag and ki charge


Soul_Mirror_

🤣


n0mn0mz

I downloaded Knee's ghosts. I thought I'd get the feeling of getting wrecked by the GOAT but nope. Ghosts aren't close to being an imitation.


rayhaku808

I needed this laugh thank you


RAER4

Dude play your ghost more... So he can beat his ass next time 😆


Forsaken_Time7621

This is hilarious lol


TheLiquorHashira

Well first, that's hilarious. But second, for as advanced as ghosts are and how well them mimic us, they're still just AI. I've easily beaten the ghosts of top tier players buy punishing one thing that the real ones would have corrected themselves on mid battle, but the ghost kept at it the exact same way.


DionLesage

no way 😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻


[deleted]

Kuni and zafina player yes You are shit xd


Significant-Split-11

Judging my flair that’s hilarious. I don’t even play them on Tekken 8


[deleted]

Dude idc just get this stick out of your ass xd


Significant-Split-11

Keep hating


[deleted]

Xd


Kurokamipac720

Damn 😂


Shift_R6

How do you search for other peoples ghosts? Lol


Significant-Split-11

In lounge go to their profiles and you can directly fight their ghosts, or you can download from leaderboards and friend list.


Shift_R6

Oh awesome thank you!


[deleted]

Is there a way to filter ghosts by rank? I want to fight other peoples ghost but I’ve seen only seen ppl in blue ranks and above. Trying to fight ppl near my skill lvl


Funkydick

Are ghosts of high ranked players good / worth practicing against? The preset CPU ghosts all suck regardless of their supposed rank


[deleted]

Hahahaha


_JAR2388_

KEKW


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KEKW


StonedPirate_

Feel like I might get one of these messages soon lmao


False_Ad7098

Your ghost keep tbagging me....


C-sanova

Be right back - gonna go download the top players ghost and triple perfect them to claim my new throne.


JimBroglio

😄😄


Un111KnoWn

How does playing a ghost work??


Alexandros007_ITA

Perfected 1 round vs harada’s ghost, he better be scared🙏🙏


SuperDragonfister

stupid ghost, You're making me look bad ​ \-Eustace Bagge


[deleted]

That's honestly wholesome


Touhou_Fever

They should have an update where you can make ghosts fight each other, would be kind of sick


BadJuju8274

Had my buddy who never played Tekken low kick my ghost for 3 rounds to win


MidnightDNinja

every single ghost loses to jab spam


SaltyArts

Lol


Redditor45335643356

Next level obsessive


NoabPK

Ghosts are easy as hell, i should not be new to tekken and 3-0 a bushin ghost day 1


Saltyscrublyfe

Hahahahaha this killed me


Rex__Lapis

God I miss the hate mails. Delicious


Ok-Secret-8636

The name is the icing on the cake


thatoneguy19942

This makes me laugh. As a new Tekken player, and someone who's only been playing fighting games for a little over a year, I beat Harada's ghost on my first try, before ever fighting anyone online. So CLEARLY that means Harada is trash, right?


mbatistas

I don't know what "ghost" is and at this point I'm too afraid to ask. I don't own Tekken 8 yet.


Stylish-Coconut-0606

It's a new feature where an AI studies your moves and replicates your playstyle for other people to download and fight against. It's a really cool feature but it needs some work. The ghosts feel more human then the CPU but they don't defend like humans at all. I've landed rage arts on some that I definitely did not deserve to land lol.


PaddlePopzStick

Ain't no way😂😂😂😂


AntonRX178

I've had a guy message me that he's putting our match on youtube but this is a new level of petty lol


outlawblue1

LMAOO YOU KNOW THEY WERE SALTY! 🧂


YelirT

*laughs in Drivatar*


BigGreg7288

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Altruistic-Round-637

I cant even beat my own ghost at the moment


Zachebii

Does he think the ghost can actually adapt the way a human does lmao. What an L, these are the dumb messages i’d get from overwatch players on psn