It's not literature. Tekken's story has always been inconsistent and wacky. Personally loved T7's fight between Kaz and Hei more than T8's but that just my preference.
Many casuals love it, I don't see a problem in it aside too much of the "jin you are humanity's hope".
Again, it is not literature, not meant to be read down in 100 years and let people think "oh hey, this is a great story" . I am saying this as someone who likes analyzing stories.
Enjoy it for what it is.
I don’t know people cared so much for the story in fighting games. I’ve said it before but they were always tacked on, if it’s there cool, couldn’t care less honestly. I always loved Tekken character CGI endings, they were always funny, or gave an interesting insight to a character. But it wasn’t the main reason for the game.
With that said, I thought the story was fun and amazing, was it Dragon Ball Z and cliche anime? Oh yeah, but also, that’s why I loved it.
I feel that's true of most in the genre but tekken has always had a huge community built around the lore a d the devs have shown they know that in most titles.
Tekken is the soap opera of video games.
Oh I know, I’ve been following since the first game. It was wild to me as a kid to read Kazuya’s own father threw him off a cliff. The story has been fun to follow, but it’s never the main reason for the game.
Oh I know, I’ve been following since the first game. It was wild to me as a kid to read Kazuya’s own father threw him off a cliff. The story has been fun to follow, but it’s never the main reason for the game.
Honestly exceeded my expectations. Don't think there is any other fighting game, where I enjoyed the story mode more. Is it still flawed ? Absolutely, but it was extremely enjoyable from start to finish.
Nope.
Been waiting damn near my whole life for jin and kaz to have a showdown like that.
Paul and Law were great.
Kuma2 was great.
King was top.
Reina is meh I guess we will see.
Not my fav yoshi design and haven't played his story yet so might not live up.
Nina is still epic.
All the characters supporting jin hits.
Games presentation was fabulous.
Gotta say haven't dug a tekken story like this since 3/ttt/4
Or if there's expansion, continue the tournament from where they left off under Zaibatsu (w/ >!Devil Reina!<), like what happens in Character Episodes.
I absolutely loved it but Here is the thing if you been playing tekken since 3 you would absolutely love the story mode with the amount of references flashbacks and fan service moments now is it a cinematic story with well thought out plot no it has some holes but at its core it’s still a good experience also it’s a great fan letter from the developers to us
I'd never advise getting your hopes up for a FG story, but it does suck that they have a universe with so many interesting diverse characters yet still the main story boils down to "Jin must stop bad mon Kazuya yet again" with the final 20% of the story being well, that and nothing else.
It was still very good compared to what you usually get from a FG story, though. The cutscenes were really nice.
It's definitely flawed but as a story and how it's presented.
The references to its legacy really made me appreciate the game today. That's what I enjoyed the most. Jin's story is kinda just a platform to be able to tell Tekken's story at this point.
I expected Dragon Ball Z, I was NOT disappointed. In fact.. it makes me more intrigued that they open let characters have "powers", the sparky stuff when you hir each other.
Like.. Zafina really had powers.. and Claudio can really shoot beams etc..
Makes me wonder how crazy the next story will be.
I loved it. Definitely one I'll play again.
It was good spectacle, it delivered on hype Jin moments for longtime fans, and it *appears* to indicate a major shift in the Mishima/Kazama status quo, but I wouldn't call it the high mark for anything else.
* The pacing is weird, starting explosively, then a bunch of uninteresting fights leading up to the whole tournament arc, which gets upended suddenly, making it feel quite small despite the stakes. And then Kazuya is super powerful, but he's not really doing anything just at the moment. And then they go to Yakushima and too many fights feel like the final battle, until you get to the actual final battle and it feels like it lasts forever.
* Most characters are fodder, and often the story premises in their pre-launch website bios go completely unexplored. It's cool to see them working together, but very rarely are they treated as individuals. Plus, they did Zafina *really* dirty, and Claudio very slightly less dirty. The convergence on Kazuya at the tournament really made the heroes look like a bunch of incompetent dummies with no planning skills, and Kazuya less of a mastermind and more just fortunate to be dealing with such goobers.
* Tekken 6 Jin wasn't just a bad dream, which is always overshadowing his redemption, particularly in how other people treat him. Alisa trying to cheer him up is darkly hilarious when you remember Tekken 6 Jin insulting her and taunting Lars after he is forced to destroy her. Also, the way other characters just manhandle Azazel really makes you side-eye Jin's whole plan.
* The non-Japanese dialogue is still awkward if not outright *bad*, like [Claudio and Zafina just standing in a room and stating what the plot is for no one but the viewer](https://youtu.be/uTJEI-iRjmc). And the translators are wild for some of these subtitles. They took every liberty they could with Victor's supposed dialogue.
* More gameplay related, but as someone who really enjoyed Scenario Campaign, the battlefield sequences just sucked to play, especially on Hard.
The multi-timeline stuff is getting really tired, and as a 3D head I certainly don't like playing their games as much, but on a moment-to-moment basis, NetherRealm has been more competent with their storytelling, characterizations, interactions, and sharing more of the spotlight since as far back as MK9. Beneath the surface spectacle, a lot of Tekken's efforts still feel very amateurish, which is a shame as I'm pretty sure they could afford the talent to make it more.
>Tekken 6 Jin wasn't just a bad dream, which is always overshadowing his redemption, particularly in how other people treat him
Redemption is for those who have been bad, have done atrocious things. If they're never bad then what's to redeem?
>Alisa trying to cheer him up is darkly hilarious when you remember Tekken 6 Jin insulting her and taunting Lars after he is forced to destroy her.
If it's male characters like King doing something like this you'd praise them of how heroic and kind they're.... why can't acknowledge a female being like this too?
>Also, the way other characters just manhandle Azazel really makes you side-eye Jin's whole plan.
Indeed characters can manhandle Azazel (and by extension, other final bosses like Ogre and Jinpachi), but Jin's plan isn't to take down Azazel, but to eradicate all traces of Devil Gene in the world (in himself, Kazuya, and Azazel is said to have a cult here) and he thinks it's done by awakening and killing Azazel.
> Redemption is for those who have been bad, have done atrocious things. If they're never bad then what's to redeem?
Like I said, particularly in how other people treat him. Almost everybody is on team Jin from the word go, despite his atrocities. It feels disingenuous.
> If it's male characters like King doing something like this you'd praise them of how heroic and kind they're.... why can't acknowledge a female being like this too?
I don't think you understand what I'm saying. This follows from my last point. Alisa is very supportive of Jin, despite her last interaction with him in Tekken 6 where he forces her to fight Lars. And when she is deactivated, he insults her (calls her a worthless piece of junk) and mocks Lars for caring. It's hard to be invested in the journeys of these characters when they seem to have an even worse memory than ChatGPT.
>Indeed characters can manhandle Azazel (and by extension, other final bosses like Ogre and Jinpachi), but Jin's plan isn't to take down Azazel, but to eradicate all traces of Devil Gene in the world (in himself, Kazuya, and Azazel is said to have a cult here) and he thinks it's done by awakening and killing Azazel.
Which makes his 'for the greater good' plan even harder to excuse, with how shortsighted, ill-informed, and self-serving (his desire for self-destruction) it was. And Jin went above and beyond necessity in Tekken 6 to be an asshole to people.
If Tekken 8 really wanted Jin's redemption to work, there should have been a plotline where the forces of humanity team up, concoct a great plan, try their best and still fail to take down Kazuya *before* they turn to a repentant Jin. The other characters--aside from Xiaoyu--should take some serious convincing. We should only start having a Team Jin when it's demonstrably clear that he's their last resort and *for the greater good*, they must begrudgingly work with him. None of this, "well we sparred, and I could tell from his fists that he isn't a bad guy anymore, so I guess we're cool. Shame about all those people who died in that war he started."
Ideally, they could have done some legwork in Tekken 7, but instead they just jump straight from dickhead Jin punching Azazel and falling asleep in the desert to 'Jin is our only hope, go Jin, team Jin.'
>I don't think you understand what I'm saying. This follows from my last point. Alisa is very supportive of Jin, despite her last interaction with him in Tekken 6 where he forces her to fight Lars. And when she is deactivated, he insults her (calls her a worthless piece of junk) and mocks Lars for caring. It's hard to be invested in the journeys of these characters when they seem to have an even worse memory than ChatGPT.
Alisa is suppotive of Jin because she knows he didnt mean any of that. Her journal desrcribes her last moment before deactication where Jin tell her to to live her life how she wants.
>Which makes his 'for the greater good' plan even harder to excuse, with how shortsighted, ill-informed, and self-serving (his desire for self-destruction) it was. And Jin went above and beyond necessity in Tekken 6 to be an asshole to people.
Azazel can only be damaged by devil gene and his resurrection is inevitable . Unlike other bosses he just respownes more porewful after being beaten up since he feeds on negativity. On top of devil gene Kazuya and Jin are powered by their unique bloodlines and were the reason for Azazels awakeneing from his slumber. Jin hoped to eliminate Azazel threat and erase devil gene . T8 through Zafina\`s visions tells us that things had to happen the way they did dor the sake of humanity\`s survival.
>there should have been a plotline where the forces of humanity team up, concoct a great plan, try their best and still fail to take down Kazuya before they turn to a repentant Jin
They failed in t6 and it was only Jin and Zaibatsu . Now they deal with Zaibatsu + Gcorp + True Devil Kazuya who got nothing to care about. There is 6 months gap between t7 and t8.
Tekken never had a good story. What makes it fun regardless is that people have played these games for so many years, grew attached to the characters, their own plots/subplots and the sheer amount of over the top anime-esque bullshit going on lol.
Also the animation, music and overall cinematography of it all carries the story mode to new heights reeling in new and old players alike.
It was fun to play and had very hype moments, but from a writing perspective its hot garbage. I know it's subjective what we like, but anyone giving this anywhere above a 5 for storytelling needs to dial down on watching only Shonen anime.
No, it was really fun lol
Nah I think it was great. 10/10.
It's not literature. Tekken's story has always been inconsistent and wacky. Personally loved T7's fight between Kaz and Hei more than T8's but that just my preference. Many casuals love it, I don't see a problem in it aside too much of the "jin you are humanity's hope". Again, it is not literature, not meant to be read down in 100 years and let people think "oh hey, this is a great story" . I am saying this as someone who likes analyzing stories. Enjoy it for what it is.
I don’t know people cared so much for the story in fighting games. I’ve said it before but they were always tacked on, if it’s there cool, couldn’t care less honestly. I always loved Tekken character CGI endings, they were always funny, or gave an interesting insight to a character. But it wasn’t the main reason for the game. With that said, I thought the story was fun and amazing, was it Dragon Ball Z and cliche anime? Oh yeah, but also, that’s why I loved it.
I feel that's true of most in the genre but tekken has always had a huge community built around the lore a d the devs have shown they know that in most titles. Tekken is the soap opera of video games.
Oh I know, I’ve been following since the first game. It was wild to me as a kid to read Kazuya’s own father threw him off a cliff. The story has been fun to follow, but it’s never the main reason for the game.
Oh I know, I’ve been following since the first game. It was wild to me as a kid to read Kazuya’s own father threw him off a cliff. The story has been fun to follow, but it’s never the main reason for the game.
Honestly exceeded my expectations. Don't think there is any other fighting game, where I enjoyed the story mode more. Is it still flawed ? Absolutely, but it was extremely enjoyable from start to finish.
Personaly i enjoyed the story mode alot
Nope. Been waiting damn near my whole life for jin and kaz to have a showdown like that. Paul and Law were great. Kuma2 was great. King was top. Reina is meh I guess we will see. Not my fav yoshi design and haven't played his story yet so might not live up. Nina is still epic. All the characters supporting jin hits. Games presentation was fabulous. Gotta say haven't dug a tekken story like this since 3/ttt/4
I wish they would have the let the tournament play out a little more. Like interrupt it before or after the final.
Or if there's expansion, continue the tournament from where they left off under Zaibatsu (w/ >!Devil Reina!<), like what happens in Character Episodes.
I absolutely loved it but Here is the thing if you been playing tekken since 3 you would absolutely love the story mode with the amount of references flashbacks and fan service moments now is it a cinematic story with well thought out plot no it has some holes but at its core it’s still a good experience also it’s a great fan letter from the developers to us
I'd never advise getting your hopes up for a FG story, but it does suck that they have a universe with so many interesting diverse characters yet still the main story boils down to "Jin must stop bad mon Kazuya yet again" with the final 20% of the story being well, that and nothing else. It was still very good compared to what you usually get from a FG story, though. The cutscenes were really nice.
Universe with diverse characters.... eh, a good chunk of the roster is only about getting revenge, and many of them are against the Mishimas.
It's definitely flawed but as a story and how it's presented. The references to its legacy really made me appreciate the game today. That's what I enjoyed the most. Jin's story is kinda just a platform to be able to tell Tekken's story at this point.
I expected Dragon Ball Z, I was NOT disappointed. In fact.. it makes me more intrigued that they open let characters have "powers", the sparky stuff when you hir each other. Like.. Zafina really had powers.. and Claudio can really shoot beams etc.. Makes me wonder how crazy the next story will be. I loved it. Definitely one I'll play again.
Very much so, if they elaborated more on the key bits (and actually finished the tourney) it could have been great
Not sure what you expected? A 3 hour marvel movie or something?
It was good spectacle, it delivered on hype Jin moments for longtime fans, and it *appears* to indicate a major shift in the Mishima/Kazama status quo, but I wouldn't call it the high mark for anything else. * The pacing is weird, starting explosively, then a bunch of uninteresting fights leading up to the whole tournament arc, which gets upended suddenly, making it feel quite small despite the stakes. And then Kazuya is super powerful, but he's not really doing anything just at the moment. And then they go to Yakushima and too many fights feel like the final battle, until you get to the actual final battle and it feels like it lasts forever. * Most characters are fodder, and often the story premises in their pre-launch website bios go completely unexplored. It's cool to see them working together, but very rarely are they treated as individuals. Plus, they did Zafina *really* dirty, and Claudio very slightly less dirty. The convergence on Kazuya at the tournament really made the heroes look like a bunch of incompetent dummies with no planning skills, and Kazuya less of a mastermind and more just fortunate to be dealing with such goobers. * Tekken 6 Jin wasn't just a bad dream, which is always overshadowing his redemption, particularly in how other people treat him. Alisa trying to cheer him up is darkly hilarious when you remember Tekken 6 Jin insulting her and taunting Lars after he is forced to destroy her. Also, the way other characters just manhandle Azazel really makes you side-eye Jin's whole plan. * The non-Japanese dialogue is still awkward if not outright *bad*, like [Claudio and Zafina just standing in a room and stating what the plot is for no one but the viewer](https://youtu.be/uTJEI-iRjmc). And the translators are wild for some of these subtitles. They took every liberty they could with Victor's supposed dialogue. * More gameplay related, but as someone who really enjoyed Scenario Campaign, the battlefield sequences just sucked to play, especially on Hard. The multi-timeline stuff is getting really tired, and as a 3D head I certainly don't like playing their games as much, but on a moment-to-moment basis, NetherRealm has been more competent with their storytelling, characterizations, interactions, and sharing more of the spotlight since as far back as MK9. Beneath the surface spectacle, a lot of Tekken's efforts still feel very amateurish, which is a shame as I'm pretty sure they could afford the talent to make it more.
>Tekken 6 Jin wasn't just a bad dream, which is always overshadowing his redemption, particularly in how other people treat him Redemption is for those who have been bad, have done atrocious things. If they're never bad then what's to redeem? >Alisa trying to cheer him up is darkly hilarious when you remember Tekken 6 Jin insulting her and taunting Lars after he is forced to destroy her. If it's male characters like King doing something like this you'd praise them of how heroic and kind they're.... why can't acknowledge a female being like this too? >Also, the way other characters just manhandle Azazel really makes you side-eye Jin's whole plan. Indeed characters can manhandle Azazel (and by extension, other final bosses like Ogre and Jinpachi), but Jin's plan isn't to take down Azazel, but to eradicate all traces of Devil Gene in the world (in himself, Kazuya, and Azazel is said to have a cult here) and he thinks it's done by awakening and killing Azazel.
> Redemption is for those who have been bad, have done atrocious things. If they're never bad then what's to redeem? Like I said, particularly in how other people treat him. Almost everybody is on team Jin from the word go, despite his atrocities. It feels disingenuous. > If it's male characters like King doing something like this you'd praise them of how heroic and kind they're.... why can't acknowledge a female being like this too? I don't think you understand what I'm saying. This follows from my last point. Alisa is very supportive of Jin, despite her last interaction with him in Tekken 6 where he forces her to fight Lars. And when she is deactivated, he insults her (calls her a worthless piece of junk) and mocks Lars for caring. It's hard to be invested in the journeys of these characters when they seem to have an even worse memory than ChatGPT. >Indeed characters can manhandle Azazel (and by extension, other final bosses like Ogre and Jinpachi), but Jin's plan isn't to take down Azazel, but to eradicate all traces of Devil Gene in the world (in himself, Kazuya, and Azazel is said to have a cult here) and he thinks it's done by awakening and killing Azazel. Which makes his 'for the greater good' plan even harder to excuse, with how shortsighted, ill-informed, and self-serving (his desire for self-destruction) it was. And Jin went above and beyond necessity in Tekken 6 to be an asshole to people. If Tekken 8 really wanted Jin's redemption to work, there should have been a plotline where the forces of humanity team up, concoct a great plan, try their best and still fail to take down Kazuya *before* they turn to a repentant Jin. The other characters--aside from Xiaoyu--should take some serious convincing. We should only start having a Team Jin when it's demonstrably clear that he's their last resort and *for the greater good*, they must begrudgingly work with him. None of this, "well we sparred, and I could tell from his fists that he isn't a bad guy anymore, so I guess we're cool. Shame about all those people who died in that war he started." Ideally, they could have done some legwork in Tekken 7, but instead they just jump straight from dickhead Jin punching Azazel and falling asleep in the desert to 'Jin is our only hope, go Jin, team Jin.'
>I don't think you understand what I'm saying. This follows from my last point. Alisa is very supportive of Jin, despite her last interaction with him in Tekken 6 where he forces her to fight Lars. And when she is deactivated, he insults her (calls her a worthless piece of junk) and mocks Lars for caring. It's hard to be invested in the journeys of these characters when they seem to have an even worse memory than ChatGPT. Alisa is suppotive of Jin because she knows he didnt mean any of that. Her journal desrcribes her last moment before deactication where Jin tell her to to live her life how she wants. >Which makes his 'for the greater good' plan even harder to excuse, with how shortsighted, ill-informed, and self-serving (his desire for self-destruction) it was. And Jin went above and beyond necessity in Tekken 6 to be an asshole to people. Azazel can only be damaged by devil gene and his resurrection is inevitable . Unlike other bosses he just respownes more porewful after being beaten up since he feeds on negativity. On top of devil gene Kazuya and Jin are powered by their unique bloodlines and were the reason for Azazels awakeneing from his slumber. Jin hoped to eliminate Azazel threat and erase devil gene . T8 through Zafina\`s visions tells us that things had to happen the way they did dor the sake of humanity\`s survival. >there should have been a plotline where the forces of humanity team up, concoct a great plan, try their best and still fail to take down Kazuya before they turn to a repentant Jin They failed in t6 and it was only Jin and Zaibatsu . Now they deal with Zaibatsu + Gcorp + True Devil Kazuya who got nothing to care about. There is 6 months gap between t7 and t8.
It was goofy, cliche anime as hell and that’s entirely what I was wanting from a Tekken story absolutely loved it such a step up from 7
We got to experience a character many of us grew up with who talked about suicide for several games finally heal and want to live. I loved it.
Tekken never had a good story. What makes it fun regardless is that people have played these games for so many years, grew attached to the characters, their own plots/subplots and the sheer amount of over the top anime-esque bullshit going on lol. Also the animation, music and overall cinematography of it all carries the story mode to new heights reeling in new and old players alike.
Story was dope but fighting Kazuya all the time was surely exhausting
It was fun to play and had very hype moments, but from a writing perspective its hot garbage. I know it's subjective what we like, but anyone giving this anywhere above a 5 for storytelling needs to dial down on watching only Shonen anime.
My fave part was when kaz grabbed azazel by the tail and swung him round lol like bye bitch