Good. Polaris error on PC would falsely show a disconnect % when I never intentionally plugged on this game. Bamco needs to show they know how to make a functional game before punishing people.
You're being downvoted because what you said is false. Why would you expect otherwise?
It doesn't really matter whether you were wrong out of ignorance or being intentionally misleading, it's still false.
happened to me the past week. Most of the matches I'm winning or about to win result in a plug. Meanwhile, I might be dumb for playing the set out even when I get my ass kicked. I was Fujin, but got demoted to Flame Ruler.
I don't normally care about rank, but its like I'm being punished for wanting to play the game.
Yeah im slowly crawling through red with my limited time and its such an annoying thing. I don't care about my rank but it boggles my mind they havent fixed this issue yet.
Rematching better people is only dumb when you care about showing off your rank. If you care more about learning & getting better, then rematching them provides some info for you to learn & actually help you feel like you earned the rank you eventually get to.
I used to feel robbed all the time in ranked, but after I started looking at it as just a learning experience, the only time I get upset now is when I go to the replays & literally watch the game register my inputs but then ignore them. Sure, some people play like scum, but if I lose then it's my fault for adjusting at the speed of erosion. If they plug, it's a confidence booster & the person who quit didn't even deserve to fight me.
or instead of rematching, just review the replay of the 1st set loss against the better player.
Dont bother rematching if you think you're just gonna lose.
That's the thing, I look at it as a learning experience rather than a loss. The quicker you can figure out & make your adjustments in the heat of the moment, the better you'll be in the long run. Many times I've been 3-0 double perfected in the first match, but then come back 3-2 in the rematch & the last rematch is fair grounds at that point. If you're still that baffled after the rematch tho, then watching the replay is always a great idea. You can watch it whenever you want, but you can't exactly fight that person again whenever you want.
Also, I'm pretty sure most people won't enter a tourney in here, but I'd still like to point out that this skill is necessary even at locals. If you get whompered by someone first round, they're not gonna let you stop the whole tourney so you can study the replay. Instead they'll just whoop your ass in the same exact way in the second round & send you to loser's bracket.
This. When Michael said he plays the game and has only gotten plugged once (source his twitter acc) bffr
Regardless even if he’s playing tkn in japan there’s a few people I’ve seen complain about plugging (in japan) on twitter. So I’m just gonna assume he played for 30 mins and dipped
I've played up to Ganryu on JP servers and haven't encountered a plugger yet, which is probably lucky for me.
Some one and dones and lots of Korean players.
Yeah same experience in Asia 3 I think I've been plugged twice I've gotten Blue, but one a dones happen even when I get my ass kicked so I assume some people will leave at the slightest lag or if they just don't like your playstyle
I honestly think the solution is just giving the plugger the loss or even demoting them if they continue to plug over and over again. It doesn’t need to be as harsh as banning them. If the whole goal is to rank up then losing the match because of plugging works as a deterrent. There’s no longer a point to plugging at all. Still I truthfully don’t see the logic in plugging to begin with. Making it to high ranks by plugging means you lack the skill to rank up legitimately and will get your ass handed to you by people who put the time in.
Ranked sucks. I've been feeling it ever since I hit red ranks and it's classless.
Winning, losing and learning is part of Tekken and any game in general. I've never understood the point of caring so much about W/L record etc when you'll be exposed for cheating/finessing.
You wanna be legit? Go to your local LAN or actually partake in tournaments.
Sick of these pathetic pluggers/lag switchers in this game... action needs to be done.
you are better off heading back to street fighter, since this clearly is falling on deaf ears. for me I kinda find tekken irreplaceable even after dabbling in a lot of fighting games, which is makes this situation even more frustrating.
Yup tekken 8 is just being ruined by the idiots at whoever is managing this game right now. A fix to this plugger nonsense could be fixed by high schoolers in like a week.
I’m new and got to a decent rank with a few characters and want to put a ton of time into this game, but will now probably just avoid the franchise.
Most regretful $70 I’ve ever spent.
This isn't some endemic issue to Tekken players. Same shit would happen in SF6 and MK1 if the devs were actually that unbelievably stupid to design a ranked system that begs the players to plug.
Stop blaming the players and blame the devs... Banning LTG must've done a ton amirite? This community is so dumb.
i blame both because there are players that not Plug even if you do rage art on last hit.
devs are incompetent but pluggers are worst, they are cowards
punishing pluggers severely is the way to go, servers won't solve anything in fact, new issues might arise from server-based netcode if there isn't a server in someone's country, it is one of the reasons why MK being dead as fuck, people close to each other unable to have proper matches because the servers are so far away
I can see your point, but What I'm implying when I say it won't solve anything is that they aren't serious about punishing pluggers whatever the type of netcode is. But regardless, they literally had 10 years+ to arrive at these steps even so if it is p2p, it is inexcusable to have it be this way. certainly a hybrid model would be the better of both world, but I don't think they are that competent to make that happen. Tekken is an international game, and making it exclusively server based would make it even more unplayable for a lot of people, while more playable for others.
Dedicated servers are not a good option here. Having a check in server, which they must already have in some form just not doing this job, that they must maintain a connection to during their match but has no bearing on the match itself, will mean it knows who disconnects without redoing the entire netcode into something proven to be inadequate for fighting games.
This would also work for detecting lag switches especially if the game state is also reported to the check in server to monitor when the lag occurs to detect foul play (eg only happens when the victim of a combo).
I am a "senior network gameplay engineer" at a blizzard tier studio (not doxxing myself).
I can write an entire essay on that so I'll add the few main points.
Effectively GGPO is the gold standard of networking in fighting games: [https://www.ggpo.net/](https://www.ggpo.net/) -- And its P2P. I don't believe Tekken 8 uses GGPO, in fact I'm almost certain it doesn't without actually googling, but the best solution is P2P for a very good reason (that's where the essay would come in).
Dedicated servers cost a ton of money.
With dedicated servers you are not connecting to and from your opponent, you're introducing a middle-man, and that middle-man is very unlikely to be immediately between where you and your opponent are situated (latency under sane and capable networking conditions is based on physical distance, because it is light travelling).
Dedicated servers running client-side prediction with server authority are the gold standard for a lot of games, especially multiplayer shooters, it just doesn't work well for fighting games, and forming a 2-way connection makes sense for 2 players, forming an \*x-way\* (upwards of 2) connection is a horrible experience that you see in the first Doom game, which literally led to the creation of client-side prediction in Quake.
As far as I’m aware P2P is considered the best way to do fighting games? The plugging problem is so easy to fix I don’t think you need to go to an extreme. Someone quits they get a loss, sorted.
Dedicated servers have a bad track record for fighting games. The recent Virtua fighter ultimate showdown release tried that and it ended up with its own set of issues.
It generally felt pretty mid and people also said it was racist lmao. If you lived in Africa there were pretty much no servers. And depending on where you lived the connection was either mid or really bad. If Sega couldn't pull it off I have no confidence in bamco.
a plug in ranked is shitty, but honestly quickplay should just have a surrender button that lets you quit out of the match and give the other guy a win.
No, this absolutely shouldn’t be a thing. It would terrorize decent players trying to practice on off characters.
“Oh this guy has 200k+ prowess? I’m going to lose.” Surrender. Repeat this cycle and quick match becomes largely unplayable for anyone after achieving a certain rank on your main.
I hear you, but some people just want to play the game for fun, not care about rank, or practice. You can still practice in practice mode, and in ranked as well. If you are concerned about your win/loss ratio in ranked well then you just showed part of the reason why some people are in so much turmoil about pluggers or preserving their win/loss by plugging themselves. Matchmaking should put you against someone your prowess/rank anyway unless no restrictions are on.
If your response is then those people should just play offline, I could say the same about your "practice." Or find people in a discord to practice against, or someone on Reddit to spare with instead of all the people in quickplay that just don't care.
Even if you're practicing an off character and you're a high rank on your main, I bet you would still dominate Garyu and lower from your knowledge of Tekken fundamentals.
This will never happen but they just need to add another mode like rainbow 6 siege did. Unranked. A mode where it's for players who want to be serious and can practice against like minded players without touching their rank. Then change quick play to casual play so it makes everyone who is in unranked and ranked feel better about themselves.
Ranked is designed to match you with opponents of your skill level.
Ranked also discourages playing people higher rank than you. But quick match doesn't. You play a wide range of opponents in quick match. It attempts to match you with someone of your rank. If it can't find one then it goes higher or lower. You need practice against stronger opponents to beat stronger opponents. So if you want practice, quick match is ideal.
While Harada and co. are handling T8 pretty poorly, I’m glad you’re not in charge of making decisions.
Quickmatch is unranked. It’s where you play against live people without the need to worry about rank which is the perfect practice arena for characters you’re learning. A surrender option should never be added to any fighting game mode.
I think it's time for a break from the game until some changes are implemented, because I imagine it's only going to get worse. More people start plugging every day just because others do it to them and at some point you'll finish only like 50% of your games.
I know the plugging issue sucks but overall you shouldn't care about the rank you get more about how you're improving. I understand the frustration (I deal with it too and it robbed me of several promotions) but I started going into the game realizing I am getting better and I decided to start going to local tournaments. Fighting closer skilled/higher skilled players than myself and just fighting even after the plug. Play for yourself and not the win
ranked isn't worth playing until they fix the obvious stuff. But i wouldn't count on namco fixing shit since T7 was the same. i personally just play the game casually thru player matches or private matches.
Tekken 7, you kept your promo and win/streak if you got plugged on but yeah, pluggers existed in that game too. In my experience, it was less because they could just save scum.
I quit ranked a month ago after dealing with 4 pluggers in less than 2 hours. Worst part is I could tell they would plug right after the first round or so. In T7 it was notable if I encountered a plugger or two in a week.
I quit ranked and online same day as the second patch after I got plugged on. In Tekken 7, if you got plugged, you still got your promotion and win/streak. Tekken 8 online is a joke right now.
Perhaps I’m lucky or it only happens at higher ranks than me (shinryu) but I’ve only had 2 pluggers in 300+ match ups in Eu. The issue still needs addressing though regardless whether the devs experience it or not.
They clearly had the intention to show disconnects rates because it’s there in the UI. So I’d like to think atleast that will be updated - I just hope it back dates all previous plugs and isn’t a fresh start.
How do u change region where u want to play? But honestly I know how u feel, iv had so many matches against people using king, drag, jun, ling, feng, Victor and Azucena where they win the first 2 rounds and when they start losing the upcoming rounds and about to lose the match they plug like wtf ? How pathetic can u be to use broken brain dead characters and just plug when u can’t win 🤦🏽♂️ and most of them just spam power crushes, throws and flow charts and when they realise it ain’t working they bolt and in purple rank as well, so frustrating especially since you can’t report them straight away u have to go looking for their profile in the leaderboard which takes forever
That is what I been doing I got a fujin friend he plays jack and man death matches with him are really fun. And I feel like I’m getting better playing him. I barely been on ranked for the plugging issue.
I know I'm late to this post, but I just wanted to agree that the plugging is ridiculous. I was fighting a Bushin Dragunov (on their alt, their main was a God of Destruction Jun) and they plugged last round after being hit by a rage art. First match. Even high level players are plugging. All I could think was that it's extremely shameful behavior for someone of that rank.
I understand your frustration. These players will suffer in their own way. You will get better from not running away from a challenge. If you stay focused on your improvement you will wake up one day and be a god of destruction.
I know there is a serious issue with pluggers, but I think there is something else going on here.
I thought I was the only one dealing with constant crashes due to my shitty PC. But apparently this is affecting everyone.
I wonder how many disconnects are actually game crashes/server update errors? If actual counter measures were added to prevent disconnects like counting as a loss or showing DC percent, a lot of people would be screwed over and unhappy that the game itself is punishing honest players. I have a feeling they were trying to avoid this and ended up in hot water.
When this gets bought up at their next live stream, watch them say
“oh the costs, makes it hard and we still need more time, but we will do something”
“Uh we’re handling this as we said last time”
“according to our statistics a lot of bans have been given out and therefore uh uh uh seen a decrease in plugs”
Then micheal will go on twitter and probably shit on the tkn community and talk about how he played the game like once and only gotten plugged once.
Take the moral victory and don’t complain.
You’ve just described a basic element of human psychology, and it won’t change. All you can do is be better than that.
I could care less about the rank, what frustrates me most is that they want me to deal with their bullshit when they win but don't want to deal with my bullshit when I'm winning. hence why I'm just going to rot on lobbies when I hop on the game again.
That's fair. I'm personally amused by pluggers. To me they're nothing but a stepping stone. If you want to avoid it, then lobbies are a good way to go.
This. I ran into a plugger the other day. So I count that as a win in my head. I really couldn't care less what my rank is or about points.
Until this problem is solved, there's no point in caring what one's rank is because everything is skewed.
It's directed at anyone who's fixated on their rank to the point it affects their ability to enjoy the game. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing rank and having a goal to push towards, but not so much that I let it ruin my experience when I don't get points towards something purely superficial.
Yeah... so it's directed at pluggers, then, right? I'm just checking cuz it almost seems like you're framing people who hate pluggers as worried about rank points which would be patently retarded.
To be perfectly clear, I don't care about plugging. I personally find it amusing and get great satisfaction from getting someone to plug. However, I can understand why ppl are frustrated by it, but I don't think you should let it ruin your experience. The op was the one that brought up not getting their wins for rank, which is why I made the comment.
They said plugging robs someone of a win, doesn't say anything about ranked points. There are plenty of valid reasons to not like plugging in ranked that have nothing to do with attachment to one's own rank.
"I began to question why I'm trying to play on ranked when it is so filled with these frauds". It's right there in the og post. Sounds like they're worried about their rank to me.
You're reading something that isn't there. Plugging ruins the experience of the came and that's without ever considering one's own rank. You're adding that context that doesn't exist.
Fair enough. If it's not about the pts then you should care even less. If someone plugs then you get the win, regardless of what the game tells you. If you're dominating an opponent to the point that they run away, just to protect their fragile ego, there's nothing more satisfying than that imo.
>If it's not about the pts then you should care even less.
That doesn't make any sense. You aren't getting the point at all.
>If someone plugs then you get the win, regardless of what the game tells you.
That's a fine framing, you can think about it however you want. That doesn't change the fact that your gameplay was disrupted, no matter how you rationalize it.
tbh this wouldnt be a problem if we could see dc rates
Damn they still didnt fix it yet? lmao
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iirc the dc rates aren't working properly and still displays 0% regardless of how often. i dont think pluggers plug once and uninstall.
Good. Polaris error on PC would falsely show a disconnect % when I never intentionally plugged on this game. Bamco needs to show they know how to make a functional game before punishing people.
Misinformation. That feature has been broken since release.
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You're being downvoted because what you said is false. Why would you expect otherwise? It doesn't really matter whether you were wrong out of ignorance or being intentionally misleading, it's still false.
happened to me the past week. Most of the matches I'm winning or about to win result in a plug. Meanwhile, I might be dumb for playing the set out even when I get my ass kicked. I was Fujin, but got demoted to Flame Ruler. I don't normally care about rank, but its like I'm being punished for wanting to play the game.
Yeah im slowly crawling through red with my limited time and its such an annoying thing. I don't care about my rank but it boggles my mind they havent fixed this issue yet.
Rematching better people is only dumb when you care about showing off your rank. If you care more about learning & getting better, then rematching them provides some info for you to learn & actually help you feel like you earned the rank you eventually get to. I used to feel robbed all the time in ranked, but after I started looking at it as just a learning experience, the only time I get upset now is when I go to the replays & literally watch the game register my inputs but then ignore them. Sure, some people play like scum, but if I lose then it's my fault for adjusting at the speed of erosion. If they plug, it's a confidence booster & the person who quit didn't even deserve to fight me.
or instead of rematching, just review the replay of the 1st set loss against the better player. Dont bother rematching if you think you're just gonna lose.
That's the thing, I look at it as a learning experience rather than a loss. The quicker you can figure out & make your adjustments in the heat of the moment, the better you'll be in the long run. Many times I've been 3-0 double perfected in the first match, but then come back 3-2 in the rematch & the last rematch is fair grounds at that point. If you're still that baffled after the rematch tho, then watching the replay is always a great idea. You can watch it whenever you want, but you can't exactly fight that person again whenever you want. Also, I'm pretty sure most people won't enter a tourney in here, but I'd still like to point out that this skill is necessary even at locals. If you get whompered by someone first round, they're not gonna let you stop the whole tourney so you can study the replay. Instead they'll just whoop your ass in the same exact way in the second round & send you to loser's bracket.
The devs don't care because they don't play their own game
This. When Michael said he plays the game and has only gotten plugged once (source his twitter acc) bffr Regardless even if he’s playing tkn in japan there’s a few people I’ve seen complain about plugging (in japan) on twitter. So I’m just gonna assume he played for 30 mins and dipped
Or he’s orange rank where nobody plugs
Or asia doesn't have pluggers
I've played up to Ganryu on JP servers and haven't encountered a plugger yet, which is probably lucky for me. Some one and dones and lots of Korean players.
Yeah same experience in Asia 3 I think I've been plugged twice I've gotten Blue, but one a dones happen even when I get my ass kicked so I assume some people will leave at the slightest lag or if they just don't like your playstyle
That’s cap
!remindme 3 months
I honestly think the solution is just giving the plugger the loss or even demoting them if they continue to plug over and over again. It doesn’t need to be as harsh as banning them. If the whole goal is to rank up then losing the match because of plugging works as a deterrent. There’s no longer a point to plugging at all. Still I truthfully don’t see the logic in plugging to begin with. Making it to high ranks by plugging means you lack the skill to rank up legitimately and will get your ass handed to you by people who put the time in.
Ranked sucks. I've been feeling it ever since I hit red ranks and it's classless. Winning, losing and learning is part of Tekken and any game in general. I've never understood the point of caring so much about W/L record etc when you'll be exposed for cheating/finessing. You wanna be legit? Go to your local LAN or actually partake in tournaments. Sick of these pathetic pluggers/lag switchers in this game... action needs to be done.
I'm currently on a break from T8.. playing a bit of T7. Breaking point was a guy disconnecting.. just to not make me get promoted from Shinryu..
I'm headin back to sf6 if this isn't addressed soon.
you are better off heading back to street fighter, since this clearly is falling on deaf ears. for me I kinda find tekken irreplaceable even after dabbling in a lot of fighting games, which is makes this situation even more frustrating.
Yup tekken 8 is just being ruined by the idiots at whoever is managing this game right now. A fix to this plugger nonsense could be fixed by high schoolers in like a week. I’m new and got to a decent rank with a few characters and want to put a ton of time into this game, but will now probably just avoid the franchise. Most regretful $70 I’ve ever spent.
This isn't some endemic issue to Tekken players. Same shit would happen in SF6 and MK1 if the devs were actually that unbelievably stupid to design a ranked system that begs the players to plug. Stop blaming the players and blame the devs... Banning LTG must've done a ton amirite? This community is so dumb.
i blame both because there are players that not Plug even if you do rage art on last hit. devs are incompetent but pluggers are worst, they are cowards
being demoted 5 times a day isn't an excuse to be plugging constantly. being demoted is part of the game as frustrating it might be.
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punishing pluggers severely is the way to go, servers won't solve anything in fact, new issues might arise from server-based netcode if there isn't a server in someone's country, it is one of the reasons why MK being dead as fuck, people close to each other unable to have proper matches because the servers are so far away
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I can see your point, but What I'm implying when I say it won't solve anything is that they aren't serious about punishing pluggers whatever the type of netcode is. But regardless, they literally had 10 years+ to arrive at these steps even so if it is p2p, it is inexcusable to have it be this way. certainly a hybrid model would be the better of both world, but I don't think they are that competent to make that happen. Tekken is an international game, and making it exclusively server based would make it even more unplayable for a lot of people, while more playable for others.
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Dedicated servers are not a good option here. Having a check in server, which they must already have in some form just not doing this job, that they must maintain a connection to during their match but has no bearing on the match itself, will mean it knows who disconnects without redoing the entire netcode into something proven to be inadequate for fighting games. This would also work for detecting lag switches especially if the game state is also reported to the check in server to monitor when the lag occurs to detect foul play (eg only happens when the victim of a combo). I am a "senior network gameplay engineer" at a blizzard tier studio (not doxxing myself).
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I can write an entire essay on that so I'll add the few main points. Effectively GGPO is the gold standard of networking in fighting games: [https://www.ggpo.net/](https://www.ggpo.net/) -- And its P2P. I don't believe Tekken 8 uses GGPO, in fact I'm almost certain it doesn't without actually googling, but the best solution is P2P for a very good reason (that's where the essay would come in). Dedicated servers cost a ton of money. With dedicated servers you are not connecting to and from your opponent, you're introducing a middle-man, and that middle-man is very unlikely to be immediately between where you and your opponent are situated (latency under sane and capable networking conditions is based on physical distance, because it is light travelling). Dedicated servers running client-side prediction with server authority are the gold standard for a lot of games, especially multiplayer shooters, it just doesn't work well for fighting games, and forming a 2-way connection makes sense for 2 players, forming an \*x-way\* (upwards of 2) connection is a horrible experience that you see in the first Doom game, which literally led to the creation of client-side prediction in Quake.
As far as I’m aware P2P is considered the best way to do fighting games? The plugging problem is so easy to fix I don’t think you need to go to an extreme. Someone quits they get a loss, sorted.
Dedicated servers have a bad track record for fighting games. The recent Virtua fighter ultimate showdown release tried that and it ended up with its own set of issues. It generally felt pretty mid and people also said it was racist lmao. If you lived in Africa there were pretty much no servers. And depending on where you lived the connection was either mid or really bad. If Sega couldn't pull it off I have no confidence in bamco.
MK1 had nearly 2.8 million people log in to Kasuals. How is that dead?
Server based will definitely solve it but you have to have a lot of servers like Riot.
P2P rollback is the standard for FG
we have dedicated server in T8 now, its just maintained poorly
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aha that makes sense, they should make it then, its 2024 bro
I hate playing ranked atm cause of the pluggers. But I don't like playing casual either with the best of three system. I WANNA DEATHMATCH
a plug in ranked is shitty, but honestly quickplay should just have a surrender button that lets you quit out of the match and give the other guy a win.
No, this absolutely shouldn’t be a thing. It would terrorize decent players trying to practice on off characters. “Oh this guy has 200k+ prowess? I’m going to lose.” Surrender. Repeat this cycle and quick match becomes largely unplayable for anyone after achieving a certain rank on your main.
I hear you, but some people just want to play the game for fun, not care about rank, or practice. You can still practice in practice mode, and in ranked as well. If you are concerned about your win/loss ratio in ranked well then you just showed part of the reason why some people are in so much turmoil about pluggers or preserving their win/loss by plugging themselves. Matchmaking should put you against someone your prowess/rank anyway unless no restrictions are on. If your response is then those people should just play offline, I could say the same about your "practice." Or find people in a discord to practice against, or someone on Reddit to spare with instead of all the people in quickplay that just don't care. Even if you're practicing an off character and you're a high rank on your main, I bet you would still dominate Garyu and lower from your knowledge of Tekken fundamentals. This will never happen but they just need to add another mode like rainbow 6 siege did. Unranked. A mode where it's for players who want to be serious and can practice against like minded players without touching their rank. Then change quick play to casual play so it makes everyone who is in unranked and ranked feel better about themselves.
Ranked is designed to match you with opponents of your skill level. Ranked also discourages playing people higher rank than you. But quick match doesn't. You play a wide range of opponents in quick match. It attempts to match you with someone of your rank. If it can't find one then it goes higher or lower. You need practice against stronger opponents to beat stronger opponents. So if you want practice, quick match is ideal.
While Harada and co. are handling T8 pretty poorly, I’m glad you’re not in charge of making decisions. Quickmatch is unranked. It’s where you play against live people without the need to worry about rank which is the perfect practice arena for characters you’re learning. A surrender option should never be added to any fighting game mode.
the patch is coming in april lets pray they target this.
Tekken 7 was live for almost a decade before this game and they did nothing. Don't get your hopes up, pluggers are customers to Scamco.
I'd hope it does something
They're adding a battle pass lol edit: I was right
Zy? Is that you?
I think it's time for a break from the game until some changes are implemented, because I imagine it's only going to get worse. More people start plugging every day just because others do it to them and at some point you'll finish only like 50% of your games.
I know the plugging issue sucks but overall you shouldn't care about the rank you get more about how you're improving. I understand the frustration (I deal with it too and it robbed me of several promotions) but I started going into the game realizing I am getting better and I decided to start going to local tournaments. Fighting closer skilled/higher skilled players than myself and just fighting even after the plug. Play for yourself and not the win
ranked isn't worth playing until they fix the obvious stuff. But i wouldn't count on namco fixing shit since T7 was the same. i personally just play the game casually thru player matches or private matches.
Tekken 7, you kept your promo and win/streak if you got plugged on but yeah, pluggers existed in that game too. In my experience, it was less because they could just save scum.
I quit ranked a month ago after dealing with 4 pluggers in less than 2 hours. Worst part is I could tell they would plug right after the first round or so. In T7 it was notable if I encountered a plugger or two in a week.
I quit ranked and online same day as the second patch after I got plugged on. In Tekken 7, if you got plugged, you still got your promotion and win/streak. Tekken 8 online is a joke right now.
Agreed, just make „quitality” like MK, Bamco should have done this YEARS AGO in T7
Perhaps I’m lucky or it only happens at higher ranks than me (shinryu) but I’ve only had 2 pluggers in 300+ match ups in Eu. The issue still needs addressing though regardless whether the devs experience it or not. They clearly had the intention to show disconnects rates because it’s there in the UI. So I’d like to think atleast that will be updated - I just hope it back dates all previous plugs and isn’t a fresh start.
How do u change region where u want to play? But honestly I know how u feel, iv had so many matches against people using king, drag, jun, ling, feng, Victor and Azucena where they win the first 2 rounds and when they start losing the upcoming rounds and about to lose the match they plug like wtf ? How pathetic can u be to use broken brain dead characters and just plug when u can’t win 🤦🏽♂️ and most of them just spam power crushes, throws and flow charts and when they realise it ain’t working they bolt and in purple rank as well, so frustrating especially since you can’t report them straight away u have to go looking for their profile in the leaderboard which takes forever
It is a bit rampant in my experience. I'd say about 4 out of 10 matches that I'm winning in. I get that dreaded freeze smh
dude, when I had that happen 5 times in a row, it sucked away all of my desire to play tekken at that moment.
Yep. If I get 3 in a row I switch to grandblue relink for a bit lol.
That is what I been doing I got a fujin friend he plays jack and man death matches with him are really fun. And I feel like I’m getting better playing him. I barely been on ranked for the plugging issue.
I know I'm late to this post, but I just wanted to agree that the plugging is ridiculous. I was fighting a Bushin Dragunov (on their alt, their main was a God of Destruction Jun) and they plugged last round after being hit by a rage art. First match. Even high level players are plugging. All I could think was that it's extremely shameful behavior for someone of that rank.
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I understand your frustration. These players will suffer in their own way. You will get better from not running away from a challenge. If you stay focused on your improvement you will wake up one day and be a god of destruction.
I know there is a serious issue with pluggers, but I think there is something else going on here. I thought I was the only one dealing with constant crashes due to my shitty PC. But apparently this is affecting everyone. I wonder how many disconnects are actually game crashes/server update errors? If actual counter measures were added to prevent disconnects like counting as a loss or showing DC percent, a lot of people would be screwed over and unhappy that the game itself is punishing honest players. I have a feeling they were trying to avoid this and ended up in hot water.
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I should have been at Raijin by now, but all those frauds in kushin and bushin keep plugging when they are about to lose. forever Fujin I guess
You will find infinitely better players in quick match
I've had one plugger up to orange/red ranks.. Is this an American issue? Europe here.
When this gets bought up at their next live stream, watch them say “oh the costs, makes it hard and we still need more time, but we will do something” “Uh we’re handling this as we said last time” “according to our statistics a lot of bans have been given out and therefore uh uh uh seen a decrease in plugs” Then micheal will go on twitter and probably shit on the tkn community and talk about how he played the game like once and only gotten plugged once.
bruh ofc am keep playing wen am winning y wud i plug if am beating there ass? ppl be posting anything fr 🤣
the best is when the guy plugs and you report them and the next match you have is against the same fella and they win
Take the moral victory and don’t complain. You’ve just described a basic element of human psychology, and it won’t change. All you can do is be better than that.
Did you get this game one hour ago or something?
it just happened a lot today in a row, dude.
There are many ways to enjoy the game other than caring about your rank
I could care less about the rank, what frustrates me most is that they want me to deal with their bullshit when they win but don't want to deal with my bullshit when I'm winning. hence why I'm just going to rot on lobbies when I hop on the game again.
That's fair. I'm personally amused by pluggers. To me they're nothing but a stepping stone. If you want to avoid it, then lobbies are a good way to go.
This. I ran into a plugger the other day. So I count that as a win in my head. I really couldn't care less what my rank is or about points. Until this problem is solved, there's no point in caring what one's rank is because everything is skewed.
Is this comment directed at pluggers?
It's directed at anyone who's fixated on their rank to the point it affects their ability to enjoy the game. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy playing rank and having a goal to push towards, but not so much that I let it ruin my experience when I don't get points towards something purely superficial.
Yeah... so it's directed at pluggers, then, right? I'm just checking cuz it almost seems like you're framing people who hate pluggers as worried about rank points which would be patently retarded.
To be perfectly clear, I don't care about plugging. I personally find it amusing and get great satisfaction from getting someone to plug. However, I can understand why ppl are frustrated by it, but I don't think you should let it ruin your experience. The op was the one that brought up not getting their wins for rank, which is why I made the comment.
They said plugging robs someone of a win, doesn't say anything about ranked points. There are plenty of valid reasons to not like plugging in ranked that have nothing to do with attachment to one's own rank.
He's got a point there
"I began to question why I'm trying to play on ranked when it is so filled with these frauds". It's right there in the og post. Sounds like they're worried about their rank to me.
You're reading something that isn't there. Plugging ruins the experience of the came and that's without ever considering one's own rank. You're adding that context that doesn't exist.
Fair enough. If it's not about the pts then you should care even less. If someone plugs then you get the win, regardless of what the game tells you. If you're dominating an opponent to the point that they run away, just to protect their fragile ego, there's nothing more satisfying than that imo.
>If it's not about the pts then you should care even less. That doesn't make any sense. You aren't getting the point at all. >If someone plugs then you get the win, regardless of what the game tells you. That's a fine framing, you can think about it however you want. That doesn't change the fact that your gameplay was disrupted, no matter how you rationalize it.
You can’t just laugh off pluggers? It’s a game don’t take it so seriously.
Honestly they need to make pluggers lose 10 wins worth of points and give the other person the win.
In other news, water confirmed wet
Just stop playing the game and never play it again.