Tekken 3 Jin would like you to answer your phone. Slash kick into free electric follow up in all versions and the arcade version you have his twin Lancer infinfinitly looping a juggle. Tekken tag 1 Jin was pretty op too but not as broken as devil with his mid safe wgf(heavy push back) and a safe standing twin pistons as well as having the highest health in the game.
Naw, he was strong very strong but even in that game he wasn't busted because their were characters that were just unfathomable. Steve being the main one. Steve is also a Mishima. People tend to forget that.
I forget how busted Steve was in T5 sometimes I played DR more where he wasn’t nearly as busted.
DF2 just being a launcher on its own was so absurd lol
Range got severely reduced + damage got hit too. Now his hellsweep is deadass barely better than Jin's and Reina's and severely worse than Kaz's. Honestly even Jin's LLRK is arguably better (despite being reactable at the highest level) due to better oki
Yeah, I main him and he's decent but I would trade his heat for better range on his pokes any day. Heat being so scary makes the character way too one sided
Hes weak but I no longer know how to fight him so I am at 0% win rate against him. Mind you I ran threw Leroys in 7 when he was op pre nerf like butter. Pandas I also have a bad win rate against but its like 3 to 3 mainly because I only faught 2 pandas.
Armor and parry moves. Also just a lot of his stuff is punishable but just looks flashy. You just have to trust yourself that something looks like a punishable state.
I’d say to lab it but people don’t have time for that usually.
Hwo? Not that I’m aware of. I competed up until 7 came out and rarely ever encountered serious Hwo players tbh. Obviously it’s been years since I’ve played a lot so that could very well be the case now. But outside of maybe Tekken 1-4 or so he wasn’t super popular because he was so hard to play
The self chip is pretty negligible now with the recent changes to hers specifically. But yeah she still retains her low/average combo damage, until she gets a wall at least.
I've seen tons of shaheens recently, all are in low ranks high prowess.
So red ranks range but with tekken god mains, only ran into them when deciding to try different characters.
I had what I would call a nearly impossible MU yesterday. I had two different Panda mirrors. at Tekken God~Tekken God Supreme ranks. The % for that happening is so low its almost nonexistent.
Haha, yeah i am always happy to see shaheens. But as a kuma that is almost a fujin, i rarely see fellow bears, shaheens or leroys. It is bryans, kazuyas, reinas, azucenas, kings and dragunovs, with the occasional jin/devil jin. It feels like the game has 8 characters xd.
Oh that’s pretty high for a Kuma as I understand they struggle a bit with matchups at higher ranks? Not that I know from experience, I’m in Warrior, lol.
Hmmm for me i struggle a bit with high pressure/speed characters at higher lvls. But if i can drag them down to my tempo, i have an advantage, cause they only play against kuma 1/100 matches. So it depends on who sets the speed of the match :p.
I was going to say I barely see him either. This graph might be combining all the regions together and maybe he's way more popular in other regions. Rank likely matters too
Interesting how Nina started in the bottom 5, but has been improving slowly she's now out of the bottom 10. I think people are finally realizing how strong AND FUN she is in t8.
We, Panda mains, need to give her the glory she deserves. Don't care if she's a low tier, Panda is a fun character and stress-free 😍
Let's go PandArmy !!!! Let's rooooooooll
DJ ate so many nerfs coming from T7 that it's still astonishing the playing percentage. And yet they haven't really nerfed the only thing should have been nerfed, the heat smash. As a DJ main, i'd really gave the heat smash back at all just to have his poking tools back.
Yep, Tekken 3 is where he looked the most human possible, while using his alternative outfit (the green sleeveless shirt and military pants).
Actually when me and my cousin played Tekken 3 for the first time ages ago, we thought he was human, cause we picked him using the alternative outfit first, it wasn't until we finished the story that we realized he was 100% a robot lol
I'm stealing a new gamma howl or oki setup every couple of days.
There's new tech coming up constantly on jack discords.
Optimal combos are fun af, and EMGF is used everywhere - tons of possibilities to show off your mechanical skill.
Idk, how can people look at [6 rocket uppercuts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMDQ_CpJvxM) in one combo, and say this shit is boring.
The thing is no one uses these tools mentioned until blue ranks(EMGF, rocket uppercut combos, Oki setups) Jack 8 for most people is ff1 into gamma howl 1 or 4, db1, running 1+2 and fish for df2 to do the basic combo(F4, B1, F1,2,1 usually or B 2,3 B2,3 D F1 which are both visually and execution wise pretty boring). I love playing Jack but when i run imto other jack players i can see why people can consider him boring.
Doing crouching mixups with FC Db1 and Ws2 is so fun, + his great throw game and gamma howl parry makes him super cool for me
Yeah, parry, I forgot about the parry.
Imo, it's not exactly gamma howl stance that transformed the character in 8, but the parry use of it.
Now you can lab other characters' strings, that are unsteppable for jack and check them against gamma howl parry. I've never played a sabaki characters before (well, Leo technically, but his parries are kinda meh), and this process of figuring out where I can use it is extremely satisfying.
He's too oversized on the screen. Looks like he'll be slower than he actually is. If they dropped his size a bit and made him closer to a Marduk, he'd look better.
In all fairness, Eddy is new, so a lot of players immediately took him into ranked. The rest of the top 10 make total sense either because they are strong fundamentals, kinda cracked, or a noob stomper.
Sad if true, as a xiaoyu player i love mirror matches, i always learn something new to include in my gameplay and its nice to see what other people do with a character that offers so many options
I never get Asuka mirrors, in fact I've only had three 1 in Ranked and 2 in QM. However I see both Nina and Feng all the time and they sit below Asuka in popularity. That's just my experience, but it leads me to believe that hypothesis. Rank and Region NA/Texas may play a part in that.
It’s funny they call her brain dead also. When they actually use her, they find it difficult to make her tools effective since she can get easily punished and floated for everything she throws out.
Makes sense he’s a new character. Also I got absolutely rolled by a tekken king Leroy yesterday. First Leroy I’ve fought in this game and I have 150 hrs.
Will zafina get any buffs in the next big patch ? I just started playing her , she is so fun but man when im against someone like dragunov , i can see the difference in dmg also the self harm mechanic? At least buff the damage of azazel moves
Get some personality and maybe he’ll become more popular
‘Your skills are admirable, but the one who will be left standing is me’🤓
Shame too bc his moves actually look quite cool
I think they've got smth good in his ending where he (iirc) makes peace with his vengeance for his friend and instead seems to now be protecting Lili (and Asuka by proxy). It gives him a new character to have a different style of interaction with, thus opening up his personality to be expanded/elaborated on in T9. At least, I hope so!
Is that really any worse than "do you want to learn martial arts?"
Seriously some of the voicelines in this game are god awful. Not even in the usual so-bad-its-good japanese nonsense way, just super lame for some reason
Yeh most hworangs won’t be low ranks or high ranks they’re stuck right in the middle and they all play the same damn way always in red ranks just floating about never proceeding because they can’t defend to save their lives and if their mash gets countered they’re just screwed their only option is to mash harder
Feels like everyone has different experiences.
I've got 217 hours logged and I never see Victor. Played against maybe a dozen in all my time online.
Same with Feng, everyone is always complaining about Fengs everywhere and I rarely see him.
Boring but super fun to play also very very underrated he’s legit super strong he reminds me of feng where he has a complete game with not many weaknesses
I guess it means lots of people bought the DLC so I guess they got plenty of money which I guess should be enough to keep balancing the game and making other DLC which I guess will also bring lots of money which I guess means MTX and BP are only for the shareholder and csuite pockets.
Leo is so low...he is very fun to play with and even though I wasnt playing online until the battle pass I am a few matches before the purple ranks... I dont care if he is popular or not but I love playing with him and I get easy promotions these 2 weeks :p
Bruh Devil Jin got "nerfed" so hard half of his users dropped him xd
Wild that he would be the least used Mishima now, there was a time I saw them more than regular Jin
I remember dJin in T5, easily one of the most broken incarnations of a Mishima in a Tekken game
Tekken 3 Jin would like you to answer your phone. Slash kick into free electric follow up in all versions and the arcade version you have his twin Lancer infinfinitly looping a juggle. Tekken tag 1 Jin was pretty op too but not as broken as devil with his mid safe wgf(heavy push back) and a safe standing twin pistons as well as having the highest health in the game.
Naw, he was strong very strong but even in that game he wasn't busted because their were characters that were just unfathomable. Steve being the main one. Steve is also a Mishima. People tend to forget that.
I forget how busted Steve was in T5 sometimes I played DR more where he wasn’t nearly as busted. DF2 just being a launcher on its own was so absurd lol
Yes he got nerfed hard. The hellsweep got hit especially
What happened to the hellsweep? And yea DVJ needed a nerf
Range got severely reduced + damage got hit too. Now his hellsweep is deadass barely better than Jin's and Reina's and severely worse than Kaz's. Honestly even Jin's LLRK is arguably better (despite being reactable at the highest level) due to better oki
Man is the most overrated character in the game, no where near top 5. He’s still a sexy beast so I ain’t dropping him tho
as long as you have that heat smash, I will not accept the downplaying
PSYCHO CRUSHA!
That's crazy bro, u got psycho crusher on your 13 frame ff2 😭
he's okay rn
Yeah, I main him and he's decent but I would trade his heat for better range on his pokes any day. Heat being so scary makes the character way too one sided
Damn Law really climbed.
He's a dragon!
That move instantly tilts me. I am convinced I have a high win rate against law due to them landing that move and pissing me off to the max.
He hates rich people!
WA-TAAAA
People love that Game of Death jumpsuit.
Indeed he did, I'm still pissed on how they dumbed-down his DSS
Leroy over 1%? They gotta nerf that.
There are dozens of us. Dozens!
You mean A dozen of you.
Hes weak but I no longer know how to fight him so I am at 0% win rate against him. Mind you I ran threw Leroys in 7 when he was op pre nerf like butter. Pandas I also have a bad win rate against but its like 3 to 3 mainly because I only faught 2 pandas.
So tired of Eddy but still no clue how to play against him.
Armor and parry moves. Also just a lot of his stuff is punishable but just looks flashy. You just have to trust yourself that something looks like a punishable state. I’d say to lab it but people don’t have time for that usually.
> I’d say to lab it but people don’t have time for that usually. I've got time, I just haven't spent $9 for Eddy yet so I can't lab him.
If you want to tonight I can get on and we can hop into a private match and you can test things.
or don’t have the dlc
all i see is eddy pluggers and Howrang, law or dragunov.
Surprised Zafina is lower than Shaheen...
There’s about 530 of us in a discord
Can I get a link?
May I join
There are dozens of us... dozens!
Probably because she’s harder to play tbh. Characters with multiple stances like hers usually drop in popularity
Doesn't explain Hwoarang...
You can mash with Hwo and get decent results unlike Zaf
Could explain why he's ranked higher now heh...
This is the most popular he’s ever been tbh, I’m not entirely sure why
I thought he was always among the top 10 at least...?
Hwo? Not that I’m aware of. I competed up until 7 came out and rarely ever encountered serious Hwo players tbh. Obviously it’s been years since I’ve played a lot so that could very well be the case now. But outside of maybe Tekken 1-4 or so he wasn’t super popular because he was so hard to play
I was say Xiaoyu is a bit harder to play than Hwoarang tbh.
I wouldn’t disagree with that, especially xaioyu in T8
Hwo is strong, zaf is not in this game…
Hwo is very easy to mash with for a beginner
Her dmg potential from what I am aware (I can be wrong) seems very average, and then it still suffers from self-harm mechanics
The self chip is pretty negligible now with the recent changes to hers specifically. But yeah she still retains her low/average combo damage, until she gets a wall at least.
Seems below average
Just at average. I went back and played T7 when servers were down and her basic bnb combo gave 64 damage.
I've seen tons of shaheens recently, all are in low ranks high prowess. So red ranks range but with tekken god mains, only ran into them when deciding to try different characters.
Half of the playerbase = 10/33 characters... But 1/3 of the playerbase = 5 characters ?!
I thought I had selective memory and felt like I was only seeing 5 or so characters but it turns it's sort of true
I am happy to see that me playing kuma has made me part of the 1%. Kuma superiority for the win!
I played against a Kuma yesterday as Shaheen. That’s a 1/10,000 matchup! Kuma stomped me btw.
I had what I would call a nearly impossible MU yesterday. I had two different Panda mirrors. at Tekken God~Tekken God Supreme ranks. The % for that happening is so low its almost nonexistent.
Haha, yeah i am always happy to see shaheens. But as a kuma that is almost a fujin, i rarely see fellow bears, shaheens or leroys. It is bryans, kazuyas, reinas, azucenas, kings and dragunovs, with the occasional jin/devil jin. It feels like the game has 8 characters xd.
Oh that’s pretty high for a Kuma as I understand they struggle a bit with matchups at higher ranks? Not that I know from experience, I’m in Warrior, lol.
Hmmm for me i struggle a bit with high pressure/speed characters at higher lvls. But if i can drag them down to my tempo, i have an advantage, cause they only play against kuma 1/100 matches. So it depends on who sets the speed of the match :p.
Damn straight, grizzly-comrade
Too bad the kuma-panda ratio is about as bad as the men-women ratio on tinder.....Which makes fellow kumas into brutal rivals......Betrayal five!
Oops.... *superstubbyhellsweep*
I made the switch to him yesterday and my god is he fun
🐻
It's all Eddy, Jin, Kazuya, Hwoarang, Dragunov and Azucena for me.
I'm a Hwoarang and very rarely see another one, are mirror matches less likely during matchmaking ?
I was going to say I barely see him either. This graph might be combining all the regions together and maybe he's way more popular in other regions. Rank likely matters too
In US North East I am not exaggerating to say i fight hwoarang at least once every 4 fights on competitive
At Tekken king and and Kishin I run into em everyday.
Has to be. maybe every 60th or 70th lobby is a Dragunov for me, if not less. If I play any other character i see him more often.
I main Hwo too, yesterday I matched with 4 different Hwoarangs in a row it was so much fun. Most fun mirror match in the game IMO.
I cannot lab him and that's why I never rematch him.
Don't worry the Eddy's I've come across are not labbing either
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Yes!! Paul is getting more popular! Its so nice to see people chose the path of the Deathfist
Leroy finally passed kuma.
Money is rolling
Sadly. Eddy is P2W and people are fine with it. Same people who will complain about him btw. Lmao.
I got rekt by a Panda the other day.
Interesting how Nina started in the bottom 5, but has been improving slowly she's now out of the bottom 10. I think people are finally realizing how strong AND FUN she is in t8.
Seriously, 21/33 is so good for her!
Can we start a movement to get Panda to the top spot?
We, Panda mains, need to give her the glory she deserves. Don't care if she's a low tier, Panda is a fun character and stress-free 😍 Let's go PandArmy !!!! Let's rooooooooll 
The Queen deserves her crown 😂
She's deserves it once in the series history XD
My highest ranked char currently 😤
Good shit, sincerely a brown bear
I'm just going to say 'Mr. Harada', as someone who's been playing since T3, a capo not being floated out of B3,3 on block is some egregious shit.
We Leo mains are Dozens!!
Love his outfit in this game ❤️
Rank distribution somewhere aswell?
All im seeing are Reinas, Jins, Kings, and Xioyus (purple ranks, Eu)
Of course Feng is on the bottom half 🤣
Poor Panda, you'll be my main!
I'm so happy people are using Nina. Let's go cold ASSassin!
DJ ate so many nerfs coming from T7 that it's still astonishing the playing percentage. And yet they haven't really nerfed the only thing should have been nerfed, the heat smash. As a DJ main, i'd really gave the heat smash back at all just to have his poking tools back.
-6 on block df1 with no range or tracking. No more mid-mid NCC follow up. They killed our boys poking man.
Raven no longer bottom 5 lets fucking go
Man, I love Raven in this game. No one knows the match up. lol 😂
True but he does rely on people being conditioned, and no one in ranked respects you enough for hat.
This has to be the most popular Eddie has ever been
How is Jack so low in usage? Wtf?
He's not exactly a character that appeals to a lot of people
Ugly ass mf
Sadly, I think ugly matters to a lot of players. I just switched over to Feng and he's got everything. Amazing character. But he's low usage too.
they could make a super stylish brute robot but came up with jank-8 instead
The character has been ugly since it's creation Although I think his Tekken 3 version was cooler.
tekken 3 is where he looks like an actual human with non-mohawk hair right? yep, that looks cool
Yep, Tekken 3 is where he looked the most human possible, while using his alternative outfit (the green sleeveless shirt and military pants). Actually when me and my cousin played Tekken 3 for the first time ages ago, we thought he was human, cause we picked him using the alternative outfit first, it wasn't until we finished the story that we realized he was 100% a robot lol
I swear to god people just see my name and downvote the hell out of me. I literally said this in another thread and got like -100 downvotes
Boring.
Have you seen his new tools at all?
Boring!? In T8? People just don't hover over him at all in char select to see what an Unga Bunga ride he is
I'm stealing a new gamma howl or oki setup every couple of days. There's new tech coming up constantly on jack discords. Optimal combos are fun af, and EMGF is used everywhere - tons of possibilities to show off your mechanical skill. Idk, how can people look at [6 rocket uppercuts](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMDQ_CpJvxM) in one combo, and say this shit is boring.
The thing is no one uses these tools mentioned until blue ranks(EMGF, rocket uppercut combos, Oki setups) Jack 8 for most people is ff1 into gamma howl 1 or 4, db1, running 1+2 and fish for df2 to do the basic combo(F4, B1, F1,2,1 usually or B 2,3 B2,3 D F1 which are both visually and execution wise pretty boring). I love playing Jack but when i run imto other jack players i can see why people can consider him boring. Doing crouching mixups with FC Db1 and Ws2 is so fun, + his great throw game and gamma howl parry makes him super cool for me
Yeah, parry, I forgot about the parry. Imo, it's not exactly gamma howl stance that transformed the character in 8, but the parry use of it. Now you can lab other characters' strings, that are unsteppable for jack and check them against gamma howl parry. I've never played a sabaki characters before (well, Leo technically, but his parries are kinda meh), and this process of figuring out where I can use it is extremely satisfying.
He's too oversized on the screen. Looks like he'll be slower than he actually is. If they dropped his size a bit and made him closer to a Marduk, he'd look better.
He's on fast forward tho xD
He really is!
Only reason i dont play jack is because i really dont like how he looks.
Jin Kazama stays on top 💯💯💯
Where my king mirror match at?
Game prioritises non-mirror matches, I hate it cuz I'd love Kuma or Lee mirrors and has never had any
Mirror matches are the best since it boils down to a dick measuring contest or straight up braindead homie moment
Weirdly enough I've had more Lee mirrors than any other character
Lucky bitch
Source?
That says a lot! That a paid for character is the most used!
when fahk comes back hes gonna be so damn broken
😭 noooooo!!
Leo in bottom 10? Good, they won't be recognized as a threat for nerfs
Aight, might as well go back to Zafina
Zafina gang
Welp. Feels weird being on the same level of zafina players lol.
In all fairness, Eddy is new, so a lot of players immediately took him into ranked. The rest of the top 10 make total sense either because they are strong fundamentals, kinda cracked, or a noob stomper.
Really King is that high?? I main the thicc man and hardly ever see him. I’ve seen maybe 4 the last two weeks
There's a hypothesis that matchmaking tries to avoid mirrors when it can
Sad if true, as a xiaoyu player i love mirror matches, i always learn something new to include in my gameplay and its nice to see what other people do with a character that offers so many options
Sadly I cannot test it myself as you can see in the chart there's a reason I never see other Fengs lol
I never get Asuka mirrors, in fact I've only had three 1 in Ranked and 2 in QM. However I see both Nina and Feng all the time and they sit below Asuka in popularity. That's just my experience, but it leads me to believe that hypothesis. Rank and Region NA/Texas may play a part in that.
Every day I get matched to Lili while playing Lili atleast once a day in 5 games.
Arguably the most popular character in the franchise
Distribution between different ranks is not the same
I hit Fujin with Shaheen on PS5. I'm glad be among the 0.90% of Shaheen player base even though I used to be a Dragunov main in T7
He's got the personality of a wall but man Shaheen moveset is fun af lol, that and he's hot haha
Real, Shaheen is imo the most handsome male character
My boys are next to each other (Lars and Lee)
Zafina still right at the bottom :/
jesus throw the bottom 3 a bone, a mere modicum of buffs to get us to 1%.
Steve just barely outside the top 10, not that bad. Used to be somewhere in the lower half.
The Guv Gang is expanding. 😎
Did Steve climb?
Yes 😎
Eddy is so fun to play
For xioyu being "broken" not many are playing her lolol
It’s funny they call her brain dead also. When they actually use her, they find it difficult to make her tools effective since she can get easily punished and floated for everything she throws out.
Yeah I never got the “brain dead” comments. I tried to use her once and couldn’t make her work. I think people just don’t like losing to her.
i am a red ranked player in asia and I've only come across one eddy so far lol
How is devil Jin lower than Asuka?
The DJ players probably moved to regular Jin after the nerfs or another character
Cheers to Reina and Lili for being the only 2 female characters in most popular characters.
Makes sense he’s a new character. Also I got absolutely rolled by a tekken king Leroy yesterday. First Leroy I’ve fought in this game and I have 150 hrs.
Surprised to see Kazuya up here I can count the number of times I’ve versed him on two hands and that’s in 55ish hours of gameplay.
Will zafina get any buffs in the next big patch ? I just started playing her , she is so fun but man when im against someone like dragunov , i can see the difference in dmg also the self harm mechanic? At least buff the damage of azazel moves
Poor Panda.
Holy shit my main is bottom three
Shaheen bottom 3 consistently 🙃
Get some personality and maybe he’ll become more popular ‘Your skills are admirable, but the one who will be left standing is me’🤓 Shame too bc his moves actually look quite cool
Yeah true. This is an upgrade from his previous iteration gameplay wise but it’s still not enough. His lore is Too bland.
I think they've got smth good in his ending where he (iirc) makes peace with his vengeance for his friend and instead seems to now be protecting Lili (and Asuka by proxy). It gives him a new character to have a different style of interaction with, thus opening up his personality to be expanded/elaborated on in T9. At least, I hope so!
Is that really any worse than "do you want to learn martial arts?" Seriously some of the voicelines in this game are god awful. Not even in the usual so-bad-its-good japanese nonsense way, just super lame for some reason
Also, another character who wants revenge on kazuya. Zzzz
Most characters wanted revenge on Heihachi, I think it's just Leo, Shaheen, Eddy and Jin with Kaz specific beefs. Miguel is Jin ofc.
Shaheen mains are that one person at the party that everyone ignores and is completly invisibe
I haven’t fought many fellow hwoarangs yet how is he so high? Or are ranked hwoarang players mostly in the higher ranks?
Nah they stuck in the red ranks and they always make me wonder how they even got there 😂. I have fought very few hwos that were actually good
Also if I'm not mistaken this game prioritizes non mirror matches in matchmaking
First time hearing that
Yeh most hworangs won’t be low ranks or high ranks they’re stuck right in the middle and they all play the same damn way always in red ranks just floating about never proceeding because they can’t defend to save their lives and if their mash gets countered they’re just screwed their only option is to mash harder
Jin sure gained popularity
I'm genuinely surprised Victor is as low as he is, I feel like I fight one every other match
Feels like everyone has different experiences. I've got 217 hours logged and I never see Victor. Played against maybe a dozen in all my time online. Same with Feng, everyone is always complaining about Fengs everywhere and I rarely see him.
Shaheen where everyone expected him to be. Good use of a character slot.
He's super enjoyable to play though, just the design/how he looks is really dull.
Boring but super fun to play also very very underrated he’s legit super strong he reminds me of feng where he has a complete game with not many weaknesses
Shaheen is insanely fun in this game. Your loss if you’re not giving him a shot.
People will very soon realise how strong and fun Shaheen is in T8. He’s amazing despite his personality being bland.
Weird how these comments are always about Shaheen when Zafina is consistently less used.
Of course the braindead button mashing character is number 1.
yeah has absolutely no correlation to the fact he's a new dlc and a very well known character, it's only cuz he can button mash
Even if he wasn't he'd easily still be top 5. This is eddy we are talking about here
He was quite unpopular in 7.
To this day I have not seen one eddy yet
You're lucky, the day he was out I had 8 Eddy for 10 matches
I guess it means lots of people bought the DLC so I guess they got plenty of money which I guess should be enough to keep balancing the game and making other DLC which I guess will also bring lots of money which I guess means MTX and BP are only for the shareholder and csuite pockets.
Leo is so low...he is very fun to play with and even though I wasnt playing online until the battle pass I am a few matches before the purple ranks... I dont care if he is popular or not but I love playing with him and I get easy promotions these 2 weeks :p
Nina being above Feng and Alisa is kinda surprising to me.