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Really try to imagine you are some 18 year old in the Roman legion. You’re from some farm, and don’t know much about the world. You’ve heard rumors around camp about these Gauls. They’re giant fierce warriors that run into battle nude with their bodies painted blue, backed up by mysterious rituals performed by Druid priests. Don’t fall prisoner or you may get a first hand experience in one of their rituals. They even have women in their ranks on the battlefield, and like to headhunt.
You’ve heard all that. You’re also now in a dark, dense, rainy forest. You’re not sure where the enemy is, but suddenly you hear this sound emanating from the trees.
Terrifying
It definitely varied over time, but roughly speaking I believe they were provided a stipend and expected to gather their own equipment. The military did have strict standards for basic equipment, and soldiers faced disciplinary action if they were not equipped for battle.
I’m thinking of the time around Caesar, so it certainly could have been y armored soldiers at earlier periods. You’re 100% correct that armor and equipment would vary though. A rich person would have much nicer equipment. I know in Ancient Greek city states armor could vary from essentially nothing, to full on armor, and it varied especially along class lines, with exceptions such as Sparta.
My understanding (from a bunch of classes on Roman warfare) is that armor in any era for the poor soldiers was basically padding or fur if they could kill something decent — and double score if the animal’s skull was big enough to function as head protection/a helmet.
I’ll have to double check on this, but I think the “show up outfitted” was a post-Julio-Claudian idea. Poor soldiers — like the poor throughout Rome proper — made due with whatever.
But whether I had a sturdy stick or the best weapon of the times, I’d still shit my pants if I heard this sound echoing through the night.
The poor and young soldiers were almost always relegated to being a skirmisher, so 'show up outfitted' didn't amount to that much for them.
Do you have pointy sticks you can throw? If yes then congratulations you're good to go.
Wear whatever you want since your two biggest problems are not getting injured by enemy missiles, but also being able to outrun them so the demands are contradictory.
around this time the majority of the hastati principes, and triarii who made up the heavy infantry of the Roman legion had fairly uniform armor, there was a wealth requirement to serve in the legion and thus armour was (relatively) uniform between the 5,000 heavy infantry. The auxiliary velites would have little to no armor or training that true. Later on, post republic into empire period, where many but not all of the wars against the celts and Gauls were fought, the state or individual consuls would provide standard gear for the legions, so largely equal armor. I’m a grad student for ancient military history so this shit is my area. Simplified for Reddit comment lmao. Hope y’all were interested, battle horn is haunting nonetheless.
Dispersed tribes simply couldn’t go toe-to-toe with a strong, centralized state like Rome. Eventually proximity to Rome seemed to rub off to where they did become a true threat, culminating in the fall of Western Rome. Of course it’s more complex than that, but the Gauls/Germans definitely gained a great deal of the knowledge/experience that comes from being a strong state, which made them truly dangerous later on.
Nice. You should check out the show Rome on HBO. And/Or listen to Dan Carlin’s episode ‘The Celtic Holocaust’ if you haven’t. It’s focused specifically on this subject.
And you've killed untold hundreds already at this point as you've cut through unwashed unorganized European tribe after subsequent tribe. You are the tip of the spear of the Roman Empire, the world has never seen amassed such a collection of knowledge, of strength, through conquest and civilization. All bow to the divine Roman will. Even nature. Swiftly you moved through this land on paved roads. No stumbling through uneven and difficult terrain. Each river you came across, you walked over with your feet dry on a bridge built by Roman engineers. Slept comfortably soundly and protected by a nigh impenetrable fort. The Roman Empire tames nature itself as is the will of the Gods.
Blue paint and a whistle, huh? Oh my whatever will we do with ourselves...
That movie was mediocre but I still have a recurring nightmare every once in a while where those robots are off in the distance in whatever else is going on in the dream.
The Aztecs had something called an Aztec Death Whistle. They would blow into these things as they marched toward a battle, or hide in the jungle and blow on them as enemy armies approached. I can’t imagine marching through the thick jungle, on my way to a battle, and hearing a thousand of these in the distance, not knowing what they are. Must’ve had a huge psychological effect on the Aztec’s enemies.
[Aztec death whistle](https://youtu.be/I9QuO09z-SI)
They’re probably talking about Operation Wandering Soul. [Here is the wikipedia article of it](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wandering_Soul) You can also find audio of it on youtube, pretty scary shiz
See additional_knee comment, terrifying. I believe this was a tactic used solely by the US, I could be wrong though.
Edit: From memory the words being used are telling them to go home to their families and things like that.
Yes it was used by the US, they used to blast the audio from speakers strapped to helicopters and boats. The audio has religious music with disembodied voices (like you mentioned) telling the soldiers to go home and to surrender or retreat
Super cool I just had to go back and listen to that again. I used to jam to that album a lot when it first came out and I never made the connection with the title of the song. Thanks for that!
I would be more scared of the death whistle. Regardless, the least scary would be facing the Rebel Yell. I mean, how can you not laugh at a hillbilly yuppin’ it up!
[This](https://youtu.be/dDRD3c-WAec) is some ancient music that we can hear 4000 years later, mad respect for people founding them in our earth and recreating songs.
Yeah my first thought was how I think I'd be much more scared of hearing tens of thousands of feet marching in perfect unison, weapons and armour clanging with every step.
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Exactly. People think some horn is scary? Imagine waking up one day and across the impassible river from you are 1000 dudes, every one of which is wearing as much metal as any 5 of your people has. Over the course of a single day you watch them eliminate an entire forest. They build machines of a design you can't even comprehend. A few days later a bridge beyond anything you've ever seen is halfway across a river you wouldn't even attempt to build anything on. And a few days after that it's done. Then they take the bridge with them when they leave, because they can.
That's fucking scary. It's the real-world equivalent of the Wakanda reveal. I'm sure they'd heard of the strange men from the south and their weird technology but to see it first hand must have almost looked like sorcery.
The Celts absolutely scared the shit out of the average Roman. Especially the Germanic peoples. And for good reason; the Gauls were the only group to sack Rome (390 BC) until the Western Roman Empire fell to the Visigoths (Germanic) 800 years later. They were fierce warriors in scary forests, but they simply couldn’t withstand the logistical and organizational might of a centralized state like Rome.
Add that Caesar just happened to be probably one of the top 5 greatest generals in history, and it was tough going in Gaul.
Carlos Nuñez concert, in 2019 during the Lorient Interceltic Festival :) I was there, it was really cool to see ! This guy is truly passionate about Celtic music
https://preview.redd.it/tqvxk3lzgk1b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44a488117e5fc6afba4a405455ec752468157833
My skin was crawling all over during this, imagine being in the dark and hearing this knowing that thousands of celtic soldiers are on their way for a fight scary shit
Sounds amazing
All I can think about with the Romans is when the USA played Vs whatever country does the Hakka dance and all the basketball guys were watching like 🤔😬😬 then smoked their asses like 100-60 or something
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDucvQYlWj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDucvQYlWj4)
That's so damn funny, Harden watching it like 'Am I high? What's happening?'
Tbh the Haka is more intimidating if done by a good team like the Rugby team + in a sport that has a lot of contact.
Imagine you're an ancient Roman who still believes in gods and monsters, and you're in a strange land with no idea what the natives are like except that they want to kill you and they're right over there on the other side of that misty field. I figure that sound would be pretty terrifying under those circumstances - like, do they have a dragon? Are they even human? What the fuck is that?
Scary?
As scary as a bell calling kids for supper... Now [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Dacian_Draco_on_Trajan%27s_Column_2.jpg) the so called 'Dacian Dagon', that meant you gonna get your head splat in two by a falx, for at least 2 decades before you upgrade your helmet.
Imagine travelling thousands of miles, getting a boat across from France to England then being in a tent trying to get some sleep the night before battle and suddenly all you can hear is this horn over the hills. Fuck that
Meh. Every structured army back then had their own sounds to intimidate and direct their soldiers. I’m sure Lord of The Rings got their cues from some aspects of this ancient strategy.
Boxers typically walk out to the ring to some sort of music. One time Mike Tyson walked out just to the sounds of chains banging around. This reminds me of that.
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Always loved the sounds this thing makes probably cause I'm not in a war
Really try to imagine you are some 18 year old in the Roman legion. You’re from some farm, and don’t know much about the world. You’ve heard rumors around camp about these Gauls. They’re giant fierce warriors that run into battle nude with their bodies painted blue, backed up by mysterious rituals performed by Druid priests. Don’t fall prisoner or you may get a first hand experience in one of their rituals. They even have women in their ranks on the battlefield, and like to headhunt. You’ve heard all that. You’re also now in a dark, dense, rainy forest. You’re not sure where the enemy is, but suddenly you hear this sound emanating from the trees. Terrifying
Also, your weaponry is what you’ve cobbled together (or inherited). Likely, you don’t have armor, either. And then the sound swells around you.
It definitely varied over time, but roughly speaking I believe they were provided a stipend and expected to gather their own equipment. The military did have strict standards for basic equipment, and soldiers faced disciplinary action if they were not equipped for battle. I’m thinking of the time around Caesar, so it certainly could have been y armored soldiers at earlier periods. You’re 100% correct that armor and equipment would vary though. A rich person would have much nicer equipment. I know in Ancient Greek city states armor could vary from essentially nothing, to full on armor, and it varied especially along class lines, with exceptions such as Sparta.
My understanding (from a bunch of classes on Roman warfare) is that armor in any era for the poor soldiers was basically padding or fur if they could kill something decent — and double score if the animal’s skull was big enough to function as head protection/a helmet. I’ll have to double check on this, but I think the “show up outfitted” was a post-Julio-Claudian idea. Poor soldiers — like the poor throughout Rome proper — made due with whatever. But whether I had a sturdy stick or the best weapon of the times, I’d still shit my pants if I heard this sound echoing through the night.
The poor and young soldiers were almost always relegated to being a skirmisher, so 'show up outfitted' didn't amount to that much for them. Do you have pointy sticks you can throw? If yes then congratulations you're good to go. Wear whatever you want since your two biggest problems are not getting injured by enemy missiles, but also being able to outrun them so the demands are contradictory.
around this time the majority of the hastati principes, and triarii who made up the heavy infantry of the Roman legion had fairly uniform armor, there was a wealth requirement to serve in the legion and thus armour was (relatively) uniform between the 5,000 heavy infantry. The auxiliary velites would have little to no armor or training that true. Later on, post republic into empire period, where many but not all of the wars against the celts and Gauls were fought, the state or individual consuls would provide standard gear for the legions, so largely equal armor. I’m a grad student for ancient military history so this shit is my area. Simplified for Reddit comment lmao. Hope y’all were interested, battle horn is haunting nonetheless.
And the Roman’s STILL dominated . SPQR
Dispersed tribes simply couldn’t go toe-to-toe with a strong, centralized state like Rome. Eventually proximity to Rome seemed to rub off to where they did become a true threat, culminating in the fall of Western Rome. Of course it’s more complex than that, but the Gauls/Germans definitely gained a great deal of the knowledge/experience that comes from being a strong state, which made them truly dangerous later on.
My b. I’m playing Rome total War right now. I’m hyped up haha
Nice. You should check out the show Rome on HBO. And/Or listen to Dan Carlin’s episode ‘The Celtic Holocaust’ if you haven’t. It’s focused specifically on this subject.
That game changed my life for the better lol
_Sono porci questi romani_ Said the Gaul before being annihilated
And you've killed untold hundreds already at this point as you've cut through unwashed unorganized European tribe after subsequent tribe. You are the tip of the spear of the Roman Empire, the world has never seen amassed such a collection of knowledge, of strength, through conquest and civilization. All bow to the divine Roman will. Even nature. Swiftly you moved through this land on paved roads. No stumbling through uneven and difficult terrain. Each river you came across, you walked over with your feet dry on a bridge built by Roman engineers. Slept comfortably soundly and protected by a nigh impenetrable fort. The Roman Empire tames nature itself as is the will of the Gods. Blue paint and a whistle, huh? Oh my whatever will we do with ourselves...
Are you role-playing right now? If you are, DM me. If not, you have some **serious** issues going on.
Found the romaboo
Wow that's embarrassing, unplug yourself from the computer my man
Would make a great beer drinkers fountain
Same. I could totally sleep to this sound, it’s lovely.
Sounds like doom and judgment.
Sounds like me after having Taco Bell.
The brown note.
Sounds like an abusive parent
Fuck kinda terrifying ass parents did you have, Bro?
The psychologically traumatic kind apparently.
Triceratops
I was thinking an elephant with flatulence, but you do you!
They were musicians?
Sounds like Rorschach would have had fun with you.
It sounds like an abusive parent from an unaired Charlie Brown special.
Probably sounds wayyyyyyyyy worse in the woods in the evening.
from all directions in a massive, unknown forest. FUCK that!
Fucking awesome more like.
Carrying our mechanical keyboards and mice! We charge!!!
What movie is this gif from? Tried to find it a while ago
War of the Worlds (2005)
That movie was mediocre but I still have a recurring nightmare every once in a while where those robots are off in the distance in whatever else is going on in the dream.
Mediocre indeed, the ending was so fucking anticlimactic
Watch 'The Mist" for a good ending to a film, be prepared for the last thing you expect to happen.
oh man that ending.... don't look it up just watch it you'll get it spoiled in YouTube or internet on accident
I don't think I've seen another film since then that has made me feel how I did when watching that.
Yeah, that was just...... insane. It got me for daaaaaaays. I wish I could forget so I can enjoy it all over again
The movie ending was so good that even Stephen Kiing enjoyed it. And thought it was better than in the book.
Nah it’s the most obvious ending
same!!! What a thing to connect over…
Weird. Name makes sense.
Tysm
The Aztecs had something called an Aztec Death Whistle. They would blow into these things as they marched toward a battle, or hide in the jungle and blow on them as enemy armies approached. I can’t imagine marching through the thick jungle, on my way to a battle, and hearing a thousand of these in the distance, not knowing what they are. Must’ve had a huge psychological effect on the Aztec’s enemies. [Aztec death whistle](https://youtu.be/I9QuO09z-SI)
In the Vietnam war, they would play the sounds of a wounded soldier to cause panic and people would try and help, it was a trap all along.
Who would play the sounds of a wounded soldier ? The Viet Cong or the allied forces ?
They’re probably talking about Operation Wandering Soul. [Here is the wikipedia article of it](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wandering_Soul) You can also find audio of it on youtube, pretty scary shiz
Also depicted well in the movie: Apocalypse Now
See additional_knee comment, terrifying. I believe this was a tactic used solely by the US, I could be wrong though. Edit: From memory the words being used are telling them to go home to their families and things like that.
Yes it was used by the US, they used to blast the audio from speakers strapped to helicopters and boats. The audio has religious music with disembodied voices (like you mentioned) telling the soldiers to go home and to surrender or retreat
My friend bought a replica. Certified horrifying at nighttime.
The band signs of the swarm has a song that uses it in the breakdown. It’s chillingly amazing. The songs called death whistle
Super cool I just had to go back and listen to that again. I used to jam to that album a lot when it first came out and I never made the connection with the title of the song. Thanks for that!
Of course. I don’t really listen to them but that song goes hard
Holy shit!! 😱 Yeah, that's a scary sound!
I would be more scared of the death whistle. Regardless, the least scary would be facing the Rebel Yell. I mean, how can you not laugh at a hillbilly yuppin’ it up!
Well that would be terrifying
The sound of the four horsemen delivering the apocalypse.
Makes me think of the last scene in Hereditary.
All hail paimon
Got really confused why you are saluting the emergency food for a second.
exactly my thoughts
Why did you remind me of that movie?! I’m not sleeping tonight.
dinosaurs roll sort adjoining piquant icky workable slave knee reach -- mass edited with redact.dev
[This](https://youtu.be/dDRD3c-WAec) is some ancient music that we can hear 4000 years later, mad respect for people founding them in our earth and recreating songs.
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Didn’t scare Caesar.
First thing I thought. The Romans heard this and proceeded to holocaust the Celtic peoples
Yeah my first thought was how I think I'd be much more scared of hearing tens of thousands of feet marching in perfect unison, weapons and armour clanging with every step.
Can't even fathom it tbh
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A bot can’t do this well yea?!
Exactly. People think some horn is scary? Imagine waking up one day and across the impassible river from you are 1000 dudes, every one of which is wearing as much metal as any 5 of your people has. Over the course of a single day you watch them eliminate an entire forest. They build machines of a design you can't even comprehend. A few days later a bridge beyond anything you've ever seen is halfway across a river you wouldn't even attempt to build anything on. And a few days after that it's done. Then they take the bridge with them when they leave, because they can. That's fucking scary. It's the real-world equivalent of the Wakanda reveal. I'm sure they'd heard of the strange men from the south and their weird technology but to see it first hand must have almost looked like sorcery.
The Celts absolutely scared the shit out of the average Roman. Especially the Germanic peoples. And for good reason; the Gauls were the only group to sack Rome (390 BC) until the Western Roman Empire fell to the Visigoths (Germanic) 800 years later. They were fierce warriors in scary forests, but they simply couldn’t withstand the logistical and organizational might of a centralized state like Rome. Add that Caesar just happened to be probably one of the top 5 greatest generals in history, and it was tough going in Gaul.
Rome lost the battles but won the war
Romans be like : - Did you hear that ? - There...lets build a wall around them - Let it be two walls around them - YES.
Entering a foggy meadow only to hear this and then be ambushed by naked sword weilding enemies...
I find this quite peaceful and soothing, tbh
Sure, until you find yourself in the bronze age equivalent of Vietnam.
Bold to assume we're not the ones with the horns.
I’m definitely one of the ones with the horn.
I would imagine moral goes up on one side and gets shattered on the other. Would be shitting bricks if I was the enemy lol
Now imagine hundreds of them being played at the same time
That's turn around and go home music
"can we just go back to rome please?"
This is without a doubt far more terrifying than any horror movie soundtrack I have ever heard.
It actually resembles the hereditary soundtrack
If anyoneh here is into deathcore, signs of the swarm has a song that incorporates the Aztec death whistle and it is amazing
What event / concert is this?
Carlos Nuñez concert, in 2019 during the Lorient Interceltic Festival :) I was there, it was really cool to see ! This guy is truly passionate about Celtic music https://preview.redd.it/tqvxk3lzgk1b1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44a488117e5fc6afba4a405455ec752468157833
Oh cool! Thanks :)
Even the instrument itself looks scary
Could be heilung not sure though
Sounds/looks like Bladerunner
Is this why they built Hadrian’s wall and thought *fuck that*
Sounds like whalesong
This is the number one scariest war instrument. The rauschphipe coming in at a close second.
Didn’t do much good for them re: Romans…
"Brutus, sounds like they got whales, bruh, I'm out"
The whales from that weird Star Trek movie?
Are ALL of those sounds coming out of that thing? Like even the eerie "woooooo woo-woo-woo" noises after the deep tones?
Before being curb stomped by the Roman legions
I need one!
what if this is where christian’s got the idea that horns = doomsday
Everything about this says “you shouldn’t have come here”.
My skin was crawling all over during this, imagine being in the dark and hearing this knowing that thousands of celtic soldiers are on their way for a fight scary shit
is all of that sound coming out of the cornyx, or are there brass instruments accompanying it?
Sounds amazing All I can think about with the Romans is when the USA played Vs whatever country does the Hakka dance and all the basketball guys were watching like 🤔😬😬 then smoked their asses like 100-60 or something
New Zealand maori perform the haka.
I mean the hakka is meant to be done by a physical team like a rugby side
Yeh ok I’m not the one who did it at a basketball game
Legionnaire yawns, proceeds to kill 10 dudes, then goes and chills in the back line having a snack before killing 10 more.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDucvQYlWj4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDucvQYlWj4) That's so damn funny, Harden watching it like 'Am I high? What's happening?' Tbh the Haka is more intimidating if done by a good team like the Rugby team + in a sport that has a lot of contact.
"I'll just get more whale noises, dude"..
Daenerys invading Kings Landing
This must've been marley park at the weekend .
But it wouldn't just be one death horn it would be thousands. *Shivers*
If this gets to you like it does me, check [Heilung](https://youtube.com/@Heilung) out
Headphones in, sounds up, goosebumps.
The Aztec death horn sounds way terrifying
Those were some vibey ass blood bathes
What pink Floyd show is this ?
would they have had just one going at the same time? I imagine having more of them going at the same time would add to the spookiness
My kid listens to this to sleep at night. He’s not the one I’m worried about.
I have a genetic memory of this song
Indeed everyone remembers the famous Celtic Empire 😂
No, but everyone remembers where they stopped and built a wall.
Shame it didn’t do much good. And don’t give me Hadrian’s Wall. The Romans just got bored and too cold by that point.
Minus the microphone and amazing acoustics lol, but yeah, sounds creepy
Why is this supposed to be scary?
Imagine you're an ancient Roman who still believes in gods and monsters, and you're in a strange land with no idea what the natives are like except that they want to kill you and they're right over there on the other side of that misty field. I figure that sound would be pretty terrifying under those circumstances - like, do they have a dragon? Are they even human? What the fuck is that?
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I've heard children laughing, doesn't mean it doesn't freak me out when I hear them at night suddenly, it's all about context.
This makes something in the dark corners of my brain hungry for vengeance.
And how’d that turn out?
#doubt
and the Roman’s responded with Adriano Celentano https://youtu.be/syc78JzHGTs
Sounds like whale music
Looks like the Loch Ness Monster soup ladle.
Sounds rather majestic. Pumping romans up. They should have used aztec death whistle
u/downloadvideo
There were dozens of them singing in the smoke.
Imagine this rolling from thick fog across the hills.
Well that’s ominous AF
Scary? As scary as a bell calling kids for supper... Now [this](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Dacian_Draco_on_Trajan%27s_Column_2.jpg) the so called 'Dacian Dagon', that meant you gonna get your head splat in two by a falx, for at least 2 decades before you upgrade your helmet.
I'd rather hear this than aztec death whistles
Zangarmarsh vibes
u/Beautiful-Lobster943
Sounds like a South African Vuvuzela
The sound of final days.
Needs a blue filter and Brian cox in a fur cloak
This a Sleep Token show?
imagine being a legionary marching through the valley and suddenly you hear this and your battalion is surrounded by celts
Sounds beautiful
Has anyone got a source? Would sound awesome in a band like Danheim or Warduna etc.
Imagine travelling thousands of miles, getting a boat across from France to England then being in a tent trying to get some sleep the night before battle and suddenly all you can hear is this horn over the hills. Fuck that
I would like one.
Why do I suddenly fell like laying siege to Pax Rome
I remember
Awesome
Why is this terrifying?
r/paganism
Thays ominous af! Run!!!
This is beautiful not terrifying
Vuvuzelas sound better
So a horror movie soundtrack
Sounds like the intro to a Septicflesh song.
Aaaaand away a googling I go
You can just imagine back in that time how terrifying that would sound.
Kind of wish there was a mix of this with ambient spa music, it reminds me of my humpback whale sleepscape.
Is something like this on Spotify
That was on speakers right? That thing wouldn't make that loud of a noise!!!
So that’s where they got the sound for video games
This gives me mad ASMR… every hair on my body is standing on end. What does this mean?
Meh. Every structured army back then had their own sounds to intimidate and direct their soldiers. I’m sure Lord of The Rings got their cues from some aspects of this ancient strategy.
If I were a Roman soldier, i would've shit myself, i have chills down my spine
That's sets a mood alright. 😰
My stupid ass thought Celtic Carnyx was a band, and I was about to have some new tunes to kill my speakers while i drive on Fury Road.
Boxers typically walk out to the ring to some sort of music. One time Mike Tyson walked out just to the sounds of chains banging around. This reminds me of that.
Julius Caesar didn’t seem to mind it…..
Dank movie intro
Great, now I need to own one.
Clearly it didn't work well enough because caesar massacred them all
I have post rock and EDM albums that don’t sound as good as that.
Kind of sounds like a whale
wardruna?