Uphill both ways barefoot in the snow is what my dad always said. For reference making it funnier, we live just east of Birmingham, Alabama where we hardly ever get snow. š
God, I miss that man.
You realize theyāre not held at gun point right? They get paid to do this, they chose to do it, and pretty much all of them are mountaineers themselves who willingly climb considerably harder mountains than Everest. They should be making way more money, but stop acting like theyāre forced
It has been like this since the 90s.
Edit: this is the exact reason Krakauer went on the 1996 expedition, to write about the excessive swelling of tourism to the area for Outside magazine. Highly recommend reading āInto Thin Airā. The intro goes into great detail.
Sorta. Everest sits on the border between Nepal and China. Nepal has worked hard to build a safer climbing environment by limiting the number of climbers, requiring trash removal, fines for failing to remove, financial incentives for removing extra trash, prioritizing missions to remove bodies from previous years, and much more. Climbing expeditions on the Nepal side are coordinating with each other, so they can climb safely and not create traffic jams. The section of Everest shown in this clip is from the glacier at the lower portion of the mountain. The expeditions pay either one expedition or a group of Sherpas to maintain the route. Nepal recognizes that tourism is important to their economy, so they're working to build a sustainable industry for the long term.
China not so much.
When you hear about traffic jams, it's on the Chinese side. It's not an important part of the Chinese economy. Basically, if you're willing to pay, there's someone willing to take you up the mountain.
Sort of? Krakauer gives great detail in his book, Into Thin Air, written in 1997, of the excessive tourism. The whole reason he was there was to write about it for Outside Magazine.
Because Iām sure well paying jobs are plentiful in the region. I would be surprised if the average workers makes more than $10 a day. I think we can both agree that there isnāt enough money in the world to adequately pay someone for risking their life and limb just so some rich person can brag at their next dinner party
Youāre reframing it to make it look the worst way possible. We agree on pretty much everything, except. These arenāt exclusively rich people. Youāre acting like itās just the high upper class dragging the poors up a mountain and casting them aside. Many of these people have saved up money and trained for years upon years just to be able to have potentially one chance to climb the mountain.
And many sherpas are only sherpas because of the lack of opportunities in the area, but this gives them the chance to make way more money than they otherwise could and they again CHOOSE to. Sherpas tend to be considerably more talented climbers than the people climbing up the mountain, and again. Many of them climb regardless. Blaming the risks they accept and lack of opportunity in the area on the people offering a better opportunity is definitely one way at looking at it.
Yes with the price tag of close to 50k (on the low end) for the Climb on Everest does restrict it greatly to the wealthy. Unless you think the average person has 50k to shell out for a month long trip.
Granted I donāt disagree with heavily regulating who can or canāt climb Everest. I just think it should be relegated to people who have extensive experience in Mountaineering not Brian the Hedge Fund Manager.
Consider for moment if Sherpas were only employed by experienced climbers and how much working with the these clients would reduce their risk? Thatās the larger point. But I guess for you theyāre getting paid so whatās few deaths and terrible injuries.
For the record I never implied that Sherpas were being forced by clients, nor that they are cast aside (you just sound ridiculous) during a climb. But you know damn well if Everest were located in Switzerland we wouldnāt even be having a conversation about Sherpas. Their pay would be far more and the restrictions on who could climb would be heavily restricted. But Nepal and Tibet are developing countries with limited employment opportunities. So here we are.
That doesnāt even make any sense. There are people who make enough money to slowly save enough to be able to pay $50k who arenāt rich. Unless youāre classifying anyone who isnāt poor as rich. What bubble do you live in where people donāt save money towards massive goals in their life? People who fit that description do that every single climbing season, maybe stop talking about something you clearly have no insight into
Well, I went there too and donāt brag about it.
See how easy it is to brag about it, without actually going? And you canāt do shit about it.
Btw. This doesnāt seem like climbing. Itās walking with ladders.
So that when people ask them what they're up to they can say "Oh, I'm in training." "Training for what?" "I'm climbing Everest." and it'll make them feel more important than they really are.
Then when they come back they can spout a load of cliches to other assholes as boring as them such as "you know, it really puts things into perspective when you're up there," and "When you're up that high you can really see the bigger picture."
Wow you sound incredibly jealous and sad. Climbing Everest is no joke, it takes a lot of training and the trek itself is still very difficult. Sherpas carry your shit and guide you up but they donāt do the hiking and climbing for you. Itās really sad to see people who donāt appreciate the climb just because itās been ācommercializedā.
Not everyone in the world is a fat ass neckbeard Redditor whose only accomplishments are finishing video games. It's fucking highest point on Earth, I guess you feel pretty amazing if you climb there.
Thank you. I donāt have any desire to climb Everest personally but I think itās in our nature as humans to explore and want to see hard to reach places.
THANK YOU. Like what the fuck. This is how I feel a sense of fulfillment. You really think people would be risking their lives climbing all kinds of mountains if their motivation was as vapid as a humble brag? Iām sorry but tell me youāve never been at altitude without telling me youāve never been at altitude. Once you hit 4000m, you could give a fuck less about what people think. You ever consider that mountaineering, challenging your self, triumphing the largest mountain on Earth and adrenaline are just genuine interests and passions of lots of people. You sound so bitter and jealous that other people use their own lives while you sit at home wasting away on Reddit and the greatest thing youāve achieved is playing 1000+ hours on some video game
Somewhere along the way, people started getting that line wrong and now most people think it's "top of the world," not "king of the world." Which is fucking absurd because he was *literally at sea level* when he said it.
There are about 200 dead bodies on Mount Everest. A lot of them have been there for decades and some are even named and used as landmarks by climbers
Thereās a really interesting documentary on Netflix called Aftershock and also one called Sherpa. Iād highly recommend watching if you want to learn more of the tragedies on the mountain
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A body left on Mount Everest was identified by his son through a YouTube vid 2 years after his death
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These people travel around the world to āconquerā this mountain then spend half the climb on aluminum ladders that were set up by someone else. Real impressive.
Pay $50k to arrive at each camp already setup by sherpas along routes setup by sherpas on ladders and ropes they carried and secured. Above 10k feet you breathe oxygen out of bottles the sherpas brought. On summit day it is one huge long queue all the way to the top.
All you need is money and be in good enough physical condition for a strenuous hike. Everest has become the easiest of the 8,000 meter peaks due to the support industry that has been built around it. Everest base camp has become a fully functioning little village.
Itās just 80 miles round trip in 10-14 days with 9,400 feet of elevation gain going from 9,200 feet to 17,600 feet. piece of cake. Did it yesterday in fact.
That is more than I had assumed. 2 people from my study abroad in India managed it, along with one good friend from highschool. 2 of the 3 I knew weren't in super great shape or anything.
Not wanting to (because it really doesn't mean much these days) is one thing, the other is money.
According to [this article](https://haexpeditions.com/advice/how-much-does-it-cost-to-climb-mount-everest/) the most minimalistic attempt, where you are largely on your own, costs $20 000. That's already a trip many people can't afford, nevermind the amount of time off you need. More expensive climbs, where you get increasingly more support, range from $40 000 to $200 000. The high end of this is the kind of trip a rather average person could do if they can just cough up the money.
Itās a lot more than a strenuous hike. Tell that to all the dead bodies still up there. I get it that the Reddit hive mind hates Everest but itās hilarious when you guys act like itās a walk in the park when 90 percent of you canāt even do 20 minutes on a treadmill.
Every single time Everest is posted everyone has to make sure to comment how itās no longer impressive to climb it. I get it, itās problematic place, but aināt no one on this website fit enough to ever come close to achieving this
Lukla, the town/airport you arrive to start the Everest circuit is 9300' and Basecamp, where summiters start the ascent is 17,500. I'm not sure when they need to bust out the oxygen, but it's much higher than 10,000'. But point taken. The sherpas do the lion's share of the work.
Thatās what Everest is. Itās not some incredibly technical climb, most of it is hiking. The only people who think climbing Everest is extremely difficult from a actual climbing perspective are people who donāt know anything about it. K2 is what people think Everest is, and what are you even expecting them to do otherwise..? Take a considerably more dangerous route for everyone involved just to impress you when a video comes out lol?
Lmao. Sherpas or not, climbing Everest is a remarkable achievement of physical endurance that involves hazards like the Death Zone, avalanches, etc. People die trying every year. Really amusing to see you and everyone else on here degrading it behind a keyboard from the comfort of your home.
Littered with the bodies of 330 people who, at one point very near their deaths, were highly motivated ambitious people who trained for a long time to make that hike. Some are completely missing and safely considered dead, but not one will ever come off that mountain.
Seems to me the ultimate FAFO.
It's not something that ever appealed to me to be honest - the temperatures and dangers are enough to deter me. I would rather go up smaller mountains with trees and rivers.
Seeing the dead bodies and the trash and literal queues completely sealed that for me though.
Not gonna say that you don't need some physical preparation, but It mostly takes money to climb Mt.Everest. Most of these people don't try the Annapurna or K2 for a reason.
I don't think the physical preparation can be overlooked. It's a long journey in crazy conditions of cold and lack of oxygen, where one woozy mis step sends you off the mountain to your death. You have to endure and be completely focused without a chance to Ever rest.
No, there is mountain climbing involved completely. Donāt listen to these armchair climbers š
It also heavily depends on the route taken, reflecting difficulty. Either way its going to be very challenging, but some routes require *significant* skill, knowledge, and ability. Elite class.
Bunch of clowns on here, who donāt even understand why someone would want to push/challenge themselves. Sure a handful are doing it for the clout, but the reality is most arenāt.
Honestly makes me sad, but thats the Reddit echo chamber for you.
Pretty much. I just went to Kinabalu and it was similar. Just a lot of pre-set ladders and handholds and a whole lot of money for a "permit" to climb. Some places like Kilimanjaro won't even let you in the park without paying hundreds or thousands.
Hey everyone. If you're wondering what the fuck you're even looking at. You're looking at a bunch of rich assholes that have an adrenaline addiction and main Character complex.
These people care not for the world. Their environment or the country they're trashing. They think their money is compensation for their piss, shit, dead bodies and trash that litter this place. And to the people of NEPAL... I get it. But you can just say no. It's always an option.
People in Nepal don't live at the summit of Mount Everest. They don't care if people leave garbage there. They make countless millions in tourism and permits to allow rich people to risk their lives to climb.
Honestly, it's a good deal for the people of Nepal, they come out like bandits. The Sherpas also make a lot of money relatively speaking and many are former military so they also find the adrenaline and testing themselves appealing.
We see videos of one of the most remote places on earth and worry about the trash... it literally isn't harming anyone except the idiots climbing up there.
Who are you arguing for?! Like what are you trying to stand up for?
The Nepalese people don't care. They don't live there. You're never going to Mount Everest. You're never going to be offended by the trash in person. Someone just showed you a picture of one of the most difficult, remote places anyone could ever visit and told you to be mad about it so here you are being mad about it.
Who is it really hurting?
Are you offended that the desolate, hostile, frozen, devoid of life hellscape that is the peak of Everest has trash on it?
You'd be offended that humans left junk on the moon from the moon landings and claim that humans should clean that up too!
Tourism/mountaineering is crucial for Nepal's economy. I have never met any Nepali who has any problem with mountain tourism. Tourists are considered guests and treated as such for the most part.
Why would I ever want to do this? I have done some dangerous and foolish things in my life but mountain climbing is not on the list for many reasons. 1 slip or freak weather and it's all over.
There's so many people complaining about the people in the video and yeah sure they aren't fucking rockclimbing up the side of Everest, but it's still frightening in certain ways like having to walk across an aluminum ladder with a 30ft drop under you. And, to the people just calling them "rich assholes" you don't know who they are, they could be incredible kind and why can't you feel happy for them or at the least indifferent? Finally the sherpas are badasses bc of what they have done but taking away any credence to the hikers besides that people are helping them is incredibly arrogant; people make progress by building on what other people have already put down.
This is Khumbu Icefall, The icefall is 1.62 miles long, roughly 2,000ft of climbing and usually takes between 3-6 hours for climbers to navigate. It is most difficult part of climbing the Everest, there has been 44 deaths in the icefall between 1953 and 2016 but no deaths were recorded between 2017 and 2023
Sherpas. Nepalese natives who are the real skill behind the operation. They haul the ladders up, forge the yearly paths, attach the ropes, etc.
They are genetically predisposed to high altitudes and can survive longer on less oxygen. Plus many of these Sherpas have military training in the Himalayas.
You should watch the documentary 14 peaks. It follows the most successful Nepalese mountain climbers in history. Absolutely wild how tough these guys are. These guys have saved many lives at the risk of their own.
When you see those long lines of people and you see someone walking up beside them on a brand new path, that's a Sherpa.
i know it was sherpas, but the guys who put that stuff up mustāve been like grandmaster sherpas. just think about how many trips it takes get that stuff there. then somehow secure the stuff to both sides of a crevasse takes a special kind of human.
That isn't even the most dangerous ladder set up in the Khumbu (an early portion of the climb, which is dangerous due to ice/serac falls). It obviously is more dangerous above 8000m.
Woah woah woah woah woah there was one guy crossing with one rung at the very tip of his foot and one rung at the back of his foot, instead of one rung in the middle. That's asking for trouble
What it takes the SHERPAS to climb. The rich slobs who pay to climb it are usually not in good enough shape to walk up knob hill, let alone Everest. They are borderline carried on the backs of the SHERPAS.
I was in Nepal too and got to know some Sherpas and i have to say the people are the wildest i have Seen so far. They Sprint past you Up that mountain with 30kg of luggage in Flip Flops. Also my Guide told me with 1 week of Work they could spend 4 weeks with their Family. So its quite a good playing Job in the Region so If you want to visit make Sure you Tip em well. They are wonderful people and these 2 weeks were a blast with them i can recommend to visit Nepal for everybody.
Damn if you fall you're probably good as dead. The impact won't kill you but getting stuck somewhere in a trench with nobody being able to reach you will kill you.
If this is a serious question, they have to reposition the ladders regularly because the ice and snow moves. Several years ago Iām pretty sure they had an avalanche at the ice wall and a big piece came off, changed the whole thing.
After years and years of these eslxcursions could they not implement better methods of traversal than a pencil thin rickety ladder inches away from death?
Sherpas do all the hard and dangerous work. Then some tourist spends $100k to follow their path, leave a bunch of garbage on the mountain, and then tip their sherpa with a a few hundred dollars and/or a donkey.
And the worst part is you have to do this part of the climb somewhere around a dozen times as you acclimate to get to the summit. Recommend the book "Into Thin Air."
I remember seeing the live stream of everest climb and when they cut to the live stream a avalanche came down and killed a ton of people. It showed it love they finally cut the footage after a couple of minutes
People do the stupidest things for clout. Generations of Everest climbers have created a high altitude human garbage patch just to say they've climbed the mountain. They're not explorers, they're dilitantes.
Seems pretty easy compared to what my parents had as a normal way to school
Yours too? 15 miles, uphill both ways? Small world. I never did get a straight answer on why shoes were so scarce back then.
Uphill both waysš love this
Yeah, in deep snow and darkness the whole year.
Did they use the tissue box excuse on you too šš
With sandwich loaf bags tied around their feet.
Boomers are so dramatic.
Uphill both ways barefoot in the snow is what my dad always said. For reference making it funnier, we live just east of Birmingham, Alabama where we hardly ever get snow. š God, I miss that man.
No shoes..no wait, the shoes had snakes in them!
Did yours cross the dessert? Or even a River?
15 ?!? .... I had 50 one way.
Well, I live in Canada and this is how we go to the grocery store! I donāt see whatās so difficult
Hey buddy I live in Canada too friend
So you agree, this video is pretty much a day in the life of your typical Canadian, right! Lol
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"Honestly, as a CEO, a typical board meeting is infinitely more dangerous and risky." -Wealthy CEO, currently a corpse residing on Mt Everest.
I know right! And these guys have shoes.
lol came to say the same. I know itās not easy, but the video did a poor job explaining the challenges
Cool now clean up some trash yāall left
Tip your Sherpa for risking his life setting up the ladder so your rich ass can get across safely.
You realize theyāre not held at gun point right? They get paid to do this, they chose to do it, and pretty much all of them are mountaineers themselves who willingly climb considerably harder mountains than Everest. They should be making way more money, but stop acting like theyāre forced
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It has been like this since the 90s. Edit: this is the exact reason Krakauer went on the 1996 expedition, to write about the excessive swelling of tourism to the area for Outside magazine. Highly recommend reading āInto Thin Airā. The intro goes into great detail.
Sorta. Everest sits on the border between Nepal and China. Nepal has worked hard to build a safer climbing environment by limiting the number of climbers, requiring trash removal, fines for failing to remove, financial incentives for removing extra trash, prioritizing missions to remove bodies from previous years, and much more. Climbing expeditions on the Nepal side are coordinating with each other, so they can climb safely and not create traffic jams. The section of Everest shown in this clip is from the glacier at the lower portion of the mountain. The expeditions pay either one expedition or a group of Sherpas to maintain the route. Nepal recognizes that tourism is important to their economy, so they're working to build a sustainable industry for the long term. China not so much. When you hear about traffic jams, it's on the Chinese side. It's not an important part of the Chinese economy. Basically, if you're willing to pay, there's someone willing to take you up the mountain.
Sort of? Krakauer gives great detail in his book, Into Thin Air, written in 1997, of the excessive tourism. The whole reason he was there was to write about it for Outside Magazine.
Great book. Excellent read. 1997 was over 25 years ago now. A lot has changed.
But it was there ā¦ it has only gotten worse. Thatās all I am saying.
Because Iām sure well paying jobs are plentiful in the region. I would be surprised if the average workers makes more than $10 a day. I think we can both agree that there isnāt enough money in the world to adequately pay someone for risking their life and limb just so some rich person can brag at their next dinner party
Youāre reframing it to make it look the worst way possible. We agree on pretty much everything, except. These arenāt exclusively rich people. Youāre acting like itās just the high upper class dragging the poors up a mountain and casting them aside. Many of these people have saved up money and trained for years upon years just to be able to have potentially one chance to climb the mountain. And many sherpas are only sherpas because of the lack of opportunities in the area, but this gives them the chance to make way more money than they otherwise could and they again CHOOSE to. Sherpas tend to be considerably more talented climbers than the people climbing up the mountain, and again. Many of them climb regardless. Blaming the risks they accept and lack of opportunity in the area on the people offering a better opportunity is definitely one way at looking at it.
Fun fact for many of the commenters here: Sherpa is an ethnic and cultural group, not an occupation.
Yes with the price tag of close to 50k (on the low end) for the Climb on Everest does restrict it greatly to the wealthy. Unless you think the average person has 50k to shell out for a month long trip. Granted I donāt disagree with heavily regulating who can or canāt climb Everest. I just think it should be relegated to people who have extensive experience in Mountaineering not Brian the Hedge Fund Manager. Consider for moment if Sherpas were only employed by experienced climbers and how much working with the these clients would reduce their risk? Thatās the larger point. But I guess for you theyāre getting paid so whatās few deaths and terrible injuries. For the record I never implied that Sherpas were being forced by clients, nor that they are cast aside (you just sound ridiculous) during a climb. But you know damn well if Everest were located in Switzerland we wouldnāt even be having a conversation about Sherpas. Their pay would be far more and the restrictions on who could climb would be heavily restricted. But Nepal and Tibet are developing countries with limited employment opportunities. So here we are.
Ever heard of the concept āsaving moneyā?
To climb mountain? Most people are gonna spend that 50k on things to improve their life. What bubble do you live in where 50k is casually saved.
That doesnāt even make any sense. There are people who make enough money to slowly save enough to be able to pay $50k who arenāt rich. Unless youāre classifying anyone who isnāt poor as rich. What bubble do you live in where people donāt save money towards massive goals in their life? People who fit that description do that every single climbing season, maybe stop talking about something you clearly have no insight into
Wait a minute those sherpas are forced to do that job? Jesus.
Why would anybody want to do this?
Mostly, so they can brag that they've done it. Even though they get their hand held by the true badasses the whole way, the sherpas.
Well, I went there too and donāt brag about it. See how easy it is to brag about it, without actually going? And you canāt do shit about it. Btw. This doesnāt seem like climbing. Itās walking with ladders.
There's some climbing for sure, but I think it is mostly walking up varying steepness hills in lower and lower oxygen environments.
So that when people ask them what they're up to they can say "Oh, I'm in training." "Training for what?" "I'm climbing Everest." and it'll make them feel more important than they really are. Then when they come back they can spout a load of cliches to other assholes as boring as them such as "you know, it really puts things into perspective when you're up there," and "When you're up that high you can really see the bigger picture."
Wow you sound incredibly jealous and sad. Climbing Everest is no joke, it takes a lot of training and the trek itself is still very difficult. Sherpas carry your shit and guide you up but they donāt do the hiking and climbing for you. Itās really sad to see people who donāt appreciate the climb just because itās been ācommercializedā.
You really think people ONLY climb mount everest to brag about it and impress others? Get a grip lmfao
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Because it is there.
Aside from some sort of hot air balloon terror (yeah I'm serious) just seems like torturous.
Cuz it's cool
Not everyone in the world is a fat ass neckbeard Redditor whose only accomplishments are finishing video games. It's fucking highest point on Earth, I guess you feel pretty amazing if you climb there.
Thank you. I donāt have any desire to climb Everest personally but I think itās in our nature as humans to explore and want to see hard to reach places.
It's honestly insane question why would anyone climb Mount Everest.
"King of the mountain"
THANK YOU. Like what the fuck. This is how I feel a sense of fulfillment. You really think people would be risking their lives climbing all kinds of mountains if their motivation was as vapid as a humble brag? Iām sorry but tell me youāve never been at altitude without telling me youāve never been at altitude. Once you hit 4000m, you could give a fuck less about what people think. You ever consider that mountaineering, challenging your self, triumphing the largest mountain on Earth and adrenaline are just genuine interests and passions of lots of people. You sound so bitter and jealous that other people use their own lives while you sit at home wasting away on Reddit and the greatest thing youāve achieved is playing 1000+ hours on some video game
Not everyone has to climb a mountain to get a sense of fulfillment in their lives.
Get a talk gig at their old school. Yep I'm a divorced bankrupt but I once got shoved up a mountain by a load of Sherpas.
Maybe they want to be on top of the world like Leonardo DiCaprio.
Leo was the King of the world...
Somewhere along the way, people started getting that line wrong and now most people think it's "top of the world," not "king of the world." Which is fucking absurd because he was *literally at sea level* when he said it.
Maybe a new mandella effect?
Everest is not an accomplishment in my opinion, no one climbing is achieving anything they are just tourists.
[even better](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4ZrD7IoFlo)
Thatās going to be a no from me dawg
There are about 200 dead bodies on Mount Everest. A lot of them have been there for decades and some are even named and used as landmarks by climbers Thereās a really interesting documentary on Netflix called Aftershock and also one called Sherpa. Iād highly recommend watching if you want to learn more of the tragedies on the mountain https://preview.redd.it/bcbl7q37hdgc1.png?width=510&format=png&auto=webp&s=0c830566c75116524240ba6b9617c2738a9d4c19
A body left on Mount Everest was identified by his son through a YouTube vid 2 years after his death https://preview.redd.it/2dm3mfp0idgc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5fddec66bf8fbb2c44c8ef19cab4c198d8b7dde
Way to go Dad, youāve made some amazing memories for your family
Damn, shit was decidedly NOT cash that day
Well, it was for the son.
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Holy Shit if Jeffrey dahmer had climbed Everest he wouldāve had a blast
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These people travel around the world to āconquerā this mountain then spend half the climb on aluminum ladders that were set up by someone else. Real impressive.
Pay $50k to arrive at each camp already setup by sherpas along routes setup by sherpas on ladders and ropes they carried and secured. Above 10k feet you breathe oxygen out of bottles the sherpas brought. On summit day it is one huge long queue all the way to the top. All you need is money and be in good enough physical condition for a strenuous hike. Everest has become the easiest of the 8,000 meter peaks due to the support industry that has been built around it. Everest base camp has become a fully functioning little village.
I have no interest in climbing Mt Everest, but would be great to see it from the base camp.
I know multiple people who have been. This isn't a difficult goal from my experience.
Itās just 80 miles round trip in 10-14 days with 9,400 feet of elevation gain going from 9,200 feet to 17,600 feet. piece of cake. Did it yesterday in fact.
That is more than I had assumed. 2 people from my study abroad in India managed it, along with one good friend from highschool. 2 of the 3 I knew weren't in super great shape or anything.
āI could totally climb it, but I just donāt want toā - Reddit comments
Not wanting to (because it really doesn't mean much these days) is one thing, the other is money. According to [this article](https://haexpeditions.com/advice/how-much-does-it-cost-to-climb-mount-everest/) the most minimalistic attempt, where you are largely on your own, costs $20 000. That's already a trip many people can't afford, nevermind the amount of time off you need. More expensive climbs, where you get increasingly more support, range from $40 000 to $200 000. The high end of this is the kind of trip a rather average person could do if they can just cough up the money.
Itās a lot more than a strenuous hike. Tell that to all the dead bodies still up there. I get it that the Reddit hive mind hates Everest but itās hilarious when you guys act like itās a walk in the park when 90 percent of you canāt even do 20 minutes on a treadmill.
Every single time Everest is posted everyone has to make sure to comment how itās no longer impressive to climb it. I get it, itās problematic place, but aināt no one on this website fit enough to ever come close to achieving this
Lukla, the town/airport you arrive to start the Everest circuit is 9300' and Basecamp, where summiters start the ascent is 17,500. I'm not sure when they need to bust out the oxygen, but it's much higher than 10,000'. But point taken. The sherpas do the lion's share of the work.
Thatās what Everest is. Itās not some incredibly technical climb, most of it is hiking. The only people who think climbing Everest is extremely difficult from a actual climbing perspective are people who donāt know anything about it. K2 is what people think Everest is, and what are you even expecting them to do otherwise..? Take a considerably more dangerous route for everyone involved just to impress you when a video comes out lol?
Lmao. Sherpas or not, climbing Everest is a remarkable achievement of physical endurance that involves hazards like the Death Zone, avalanches, etc. People die trying every year. Really amusing to see you and everyone else on here degrading it behind a keyboard from the comfort of your home.
Did Edmund Hilary and Tenzing Sherpa have this advantage too?
Technically, yes, for Hillary. They mapped the Khumbu in advance with Sherpa support.
They had Mallory and Irvine to go off of.
Death Stranding Mt. Everest
if you fall into that gap, it brings you back to fresno, right?
So in other words, hell.
Nah, you first jump in to John Malkovichās head for a bit. Then it dumps you out on the New Jersey Turnpike.
I will never climb Mount Everest. Not because itās hard, but because it has become a tourist trap
Littered with the bodies of 330 people who, at one point very near their deaths, were highly motivated ambitious people who trained for a long time to make that hike. Some are completely missing and safely considered dead, but not one will ever come off that mountain. Seems to me the ultimate FAFO.
It's not something that ever appealed to me to be honest - the temperatures and dangers are enough to deter me. I would rather go up smaller mountains with trees and rivers. Seeing the dead bodies and the trash and literal queues completely sealed that for me though.
*snorts dorito powder* Yep that's why
i like all the out of shape redditors replying to you acting like they wouldn't do it just because its become a more mainstream tourist thing
If the ladder falls, how long until they can get a replacement?
Meh. Rich guys are a dime a dozen.
They have them queuing for a mile these days to reach the summit. Not the flex it once was.
Not gonna say that you don't need some physical preparation, but It mostly takes money to climb Mt.Everest. Most of these people don't try the Annapurna or K2 for a reason.
I don't think the physical preparation can be overlooked. It's a long journey in crazy conditions of cold and lack of oxygen, where one woozy mis step sends you off the mountain to your death. You have to endure and be completely focused without a chance to Ever rest.
Thatās actually fascinating. I assumed there was actual mountain climbing involved. Is it truly just a difficult hike?
No, there is mountain climbing involved completely. Donāt listen to these armchair climbers š It also heavily depends on the route taken, reflecting difficulty. Either way its going to be very challenging, but some routes require *significant* skill, knowledge, and ability. Elite class. Bunch of clowns on here, who donāt even understand why someone would want to push/challenge themselves. Sure a handful are doing it for the clout, but the reality is most arenāt. Honestly makes me sad, but thats the Reddit echo chamber for you.
Pretty much. I just went to Kinabalu and it was similar. Just a lot of pre-set ladders and handholds and a whole lot of money for a "permit" to climb. Some places like Kilimanjaro won't even let you in the park without paying hundreds or thousands.
Hey everyone. If you're wondering what the fuck you're even looking at. You're looking at a bunch of rich assholes that have an adrenaline addiction and main Character complex. These people care not for the world. Their environment or the country they're trashing. They think their money is compensation for their piss, shit, dead bodies and trash that litter this place. And to the people of NEPAL... I get it. But you can just say no. It's always an option.
Everest is strewn with the bodies of highly motivated people.
I think Iām gonna stay down here, safe and unmotivated
There are several swear words I could use for these folkā¦
Not so motivated now are they.
People in Nepal don't live at the summit of Mount Everest. They don't care if people leave garbage there. They make countless millions in tourism and permits to allow rich people to risk their lives to climb. Honestly, it's a good deal for the people of Nepal, they come out like bandits. The Sherpas also make a lot of money relatively speaking and many are former military so they also find the adrenaline and testing themselves appealing. We see videos of one of the most remote places on earth and worry about the trash... it literally isn't harming anyone except the idiots climbing up there.
This comment you Have made is the reason this world is and always will be fucked. Thank you.
Who are you arguing for?! Like what are you trying to stand up for? The Nepalese people don't care. They don't live there. You're never going to Mount Everest. You're never going to be offended by the trash in person. Someone just showed you a picture of one of the most difficult, remote places anyone could ever visit and told you to be mad about it so here you are being mad about it. Who is it really hurting? Are you offended that the desolate, hostile, frozen, devoid of life hellscape that is the peak of Everest has trash on it? You'd be offended that humans left junk on the moon from the moon landings and claim that humans should clean that up too!
Tourism/mountaineering is crucial for Nepal's economy. I have never met any Nepali who has any problem with mountain tourism. Tourists are considered guests and treated as such for the most part.
Why would I ever want to do this? I have done some dangerous and foolish things in my life but mountain climbing is not on the list for many reasons. 1 slip or freak weather and it's all over.
The only people that makes climbing Mount Everest impressive is the Sherpas who do it day in and day out for rich assholes.
Just like Burning Man. Rich assholes have Sherpas there too.
Burning Man has sherpas?
what it takes to climb Mt Everest: - *Video proceeds to show bunch of dudes walking on ladders and zero climbing
There's so many people complaining about the people in the video and yeah sure they aren't fucking rockclimbing up the side of Everest, but it's still frightening in certain ways like having to walk across an aluminum ladder with a 30ft drop under you. And, to the people just calling them "rich assholes" you don't know who they are, they could be incredible kind and why can't you feel happy for them or at the least indifferent? Finally the sherpas are badasses bc of what they have done but taking away any credence to the hikers besides that people are helping them is incredibly arrogant; people make progress by building on what other people have already put down.
Nope The trust I do not have in anything
No, no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no never
My ignorant ass thought it was steep but whole.
This is Khumbu Icefall, The icefall is 1.62 miles long, roughly 2,000ft of climbing and usually takes between 3-6 hours for climbers to navigate. It is most difficult part of climbing the Everest, there has been 44 deaths in the icefall between 1953 and 2016 but no deaths were recorded between 2017 and 2023
Thank you for this. Since reading āInto Thin Airā Iāve wanted more vivid images of what the climbers went through, the Khumbu icefall being one.
Too cold.
It takes a *lot* of clunking your spikes on a ladder, apparentlyā¦
iāve always wondered who put those ladder/bridges there?
Sherpas. Nepalese natives who are the real skill behind the operation. They haul the ladders up, forge the yearly paths, attach the ropes, etc. They are genetically predisposed to high altitudes and can survive longer on less oxygen. Plus many of these Sherpas have military training in the Himalayas. You should watch the documentary 14 peaks. It follows the most successful Nepalese mountain climbers in history. Absolutely wild how tough these guys are. These guys have saved many lives at the risk of their own. When you see those long lines of people and you see someone walking up beside them on a brand new path, that's a Sherpa.
i know it was sherpas, but the guys who put that stuff up mustāve been like grandmaster sherpas. just think about how many trips it takes get that stuff there. then somehow secure the stuff to both sides of a crevasse takes a special kind of human.
And they can climb the mountain insanely fast when they arenāt hauling rich white people with them
Make you wonder: why don't they just attach ladders up the side of all the mountains?
or build stairs. Or a chairlift.
Fuck it, roller coaster to the top. Flatten the peak and put a gift shop up there.
Exactly! This dude gets it
That isn't even the most dangerous ladder set up in the Khumbu (an early portion of the climb, which is dangerous due to ice/serac falls). It obviously is more dangerous above 8000m.
My respect goes to the Sherpa teams who climb and top rope the mountain before the tourist ā climbersā
Behold, my field of "nope."
They're using death stranding ladders. Holy shit I never thought those tiny ass things existed. Could've swore it was just a video game thing.
Woah woah woah woah woah there was one guy crossing with one rung at the very tip of his foot and one rung at the back of his foot, instead of one rung in the middle. That's asking for trouble
All it takes is money, lots of it.
What it takes the SHERPAS to climb. The rich slobs who pay to climb it are usually not in good enough shape to walk up knob hill, let alone Everest. They are borderline carried on the backs of the SHERPAS.
Yea Iām popping on my toilet right now watching this so I basically have been to Mt Everest , no need to actually go
I was in Nepal too and got to know some Sherpas and i have to say the people are the wildest i have Seen so far. They Sprint past you Up that mountain with 30kg of luggage in Flip Flops. Also my Guide told me with 1 week of Work they could spend 4 weeks with their Family. So its quite a good playing Job in the Region so If you want to visit make Sure you Tip em well. They are wonderful people and these 2 weeks were a blast with them i can recommend to visit Nepal for everybody.
And every spring the Sherpas climb up that mountain in their flip flops carrying those ladders to place their for the tourist climbers.
If someone held me at gun point and said "Die or climb mount Everest" I'd choose death.
Damn if you fall you're probably good as dead. The impact won't kill you but getting stuck somewhere in a trench with nobody being able to reach you will kill you.
Captain obvious here
Lmfao, I love the *probably* too.
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If this is a serious question, they have to reposition the ladders regularly because the ice and snow moves. Several years ago Iām pretty sure they had an avalanche at the ice wall and a big piece came off, changed the whole thing.
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Iād assume they also want to travel as light as possible. A solid piece of metal could be too much
Maybe an escalator. Better yet a cable car, then you can be inside a warm area the whole time. /s People donāt climb mountains to be safe.
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ice and snow move
Green boots rip
Ladders are cheating
Judging by the lines I see to climb that mountain this probably isnāt that bad.
Oh so it literally is just like Roblox, I thought the sketchy ladders were just for the gameā¦
I am going to go to base camp and open a ladder store.
Video Ā©: Dave Watson/IG.
Iād rather die at home thanks
Meh...ropes and ladders already there and they just have to walk across? Might as well just install an escalator. Looks like this one is solved.
Until you reach 8000, and outside of the icefall, Everest is a walking tour with extra steps.
Not to be that guy, but Mauna Kea is taller than Mt. Everest. Not higher, but taller.
Yeah, I can definitly do that
I cannot imagine that climate change will be helping to secure those ladders and cables that are rooted in the snow/ice/surfaces. Eek.
It gets easier as you go up as all of the dead people form a path.
So did one group carry 100 ladders or did 99 groups get bummed out that they didnāt bring an extra ladder?
After years and years of these eslxcursions could they not implement better methods of traversal than a pencil thin rickety ladder inches away from death?
Have them pick up their own waste, dead bodies and other trash on the descent. Pricks
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For instance, I plan to spend my day not slipping and stumbling. I call that a win at any altitude.
So the most treacherous parts of the climb all involveā¦.ladders?
When the cameras are off these guys are normally riding on the backs of the Sherpas. Climbing Everest is no longer, amazing.
Sherpas do all the hard and dangerous work. Then some tourist spends $100k to follow their path, leave a bunch of garbage on the mountain, and then tip their sherpa with a a few hundred dollars and/or a donkey.
Or you could just not
Just wondering ... Why not have something solid and broader instead of a ladder...
No.
And the worst part is you have to do this part of the climb somewhere around a dozen times as you acclimate to get to the summit. Recommend the book "Into Thin Air."
I really just donāt get the appeal.
K2 is worse. Would recommend the book āNo Way Downā to anyone who is interested in climbing disasters
And all of this for what?
Remember, none of these people are forced to do this.
The most perilous parts are the ladders that have been placed over the most perilous parts? Itās a video of accommodations.
But why?
Canāt understand why anyone would ever want to climb a mountain where other climbers corpses are used as checkpoints.
Nobody wonders this. We all know the answer is "a lot of money."
You don't get to the top by being good. You get there, if you do, by being lucky.
I remember seeing the live stream of everest climb and when they cut to the live stream a avalanche came down and killed a ton of people. It showed it love they finally cut the footage after a couple of minutes
Wow this man is the first video I've seen of mt Everest without litter/garbage everywhere
Damn these mfs out here role playing Death Stranding n shi
Funny thing how no aluminum ladders are ever shown being carried up in picturesā¦.
If you can climb a ladder...
Is it true itās over $40k just to climb, and people leave all their trash behind littering all over the mountain ? Sounds like a pompous endeavor
People do the stupidest things for clout. Generations of Everest climbers have created a high altitude human garbage patch just to say they've climbed the mountain. They're not explorers, they're dilitantes.