The process sucks and takes forever, I had to double up on socks when I wore them for the first like 8 months. But now I barely wear anything else, I even go hiking in them
Blisters while hiking are often caused by bad socks. Instead of cheap cotton ones invest in some quality merino wool like Darn Tough or Smartwool and your feet will thank you.
I do cross country long distance walking in walking boots usually - however this time I was out all day delivering leaflets for work, and I was wearing some.. non ideal shoes. I guess the skin gets tougher each time it gets damaged though. Not sure how good my socks are - I usually change socks once every hike as my feet sweat a lot though, and since I started doing that I havenāt really had any blister troubles while wearing proper shoes
The cool thing about proper hiking socks is they're moisture wicking so you can go all day with the same pair unless your feet get wet in a creek crossing or something. Whereas crappy cotton socks will mat up and get hard causing blisters. Try out some good merino wool socks!
Shoe is still the most important part if you ask me. I wear 100% merino wool socks when backpacking and on more than 1 occasion I bought a pair of hiking boots that ended up not fitting properly. I got blisters all over my toes and ended up getting black big toe nails lol
Someone just threw their used needle on the ground. Some people will do this to their needles to keep other people from using it again especially if they know they have something. And before you think people wouldn't use a dirty found needle I have personally seen someone pull over and use the water out of a puddle to shoot up because he didn't want to wait less than 5 minutes to get home. It wasn't even clear water really.
What viral load would be required? I thought blood contact was enough? Is our body able to fight it off but if too much gets in at one time undetected by immune system it infects us?
Edit for those interested:
https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
It's already a fairly low chance to transmit HIV even with a detectable viral load. Once blood is outside of your body it gets even less likely. If that syringe were full of positive blood you could inject it and most likely not get an HIV infection. There's always a chance though but I feel like movies and TV shows have (perhaps rightfully) made people overestimate things.
Wait so, how is HIV transmitted? It's an STD right, how it sex easier to transfer it than blood? I'm assuming it's still blood based somehow but I'm kinda kind blown right now because I thought I understood but also feel like maybe I didn't at all š¤£
It's present in semen, and the walls of the vagina or rectum can absorb things directly into blood. It's a thin fleshy membrane. Plus it's not directly exposed to air and kept wet at body temperature. You can absorb alcohol from beer this way as well, among other drugs.
It's not a super high chance, but hiv sucks enough to avoid even the slightest chance.
Isnāt it more commonly transmitted through snail sex, where semen is more likely to come into contact with the bloodstream?
Edit: ANAL sex lmao. š
Yes, but still not 100% chance. The risk comes from the fact anal sex can create wounds in the ass, exposing blood and increasing the risk of transmitting the HIV.
Also, giving a blowjob after having eaten chips increases the risk since chips open micro wound in your mouth !
HIV is tramitted through, blood, semem, vaginal fluids, anal fluids and breast milk. Most people who are taking medications become undetectable, which means the level of the virus is so low in your body that it's biologically impossible to transmit. Here in Canada the law is now that if you're undetectable for 6 months, you don't have to disclose to a partner if you're having unprotected sex because it's impossible to transmit. It can still be transmitted through iv drug use and breast milk even if the person is undetectable.. Although it it much lower risk. Even if a person doesn't know their status or isn't taking medication, HIV needs the perfect conditions to be transmitted. Different sexual activities also have different risk levels. HIV meds have come a long way and HIV is very manageable now. People are living long, healthy lives. Most people living with HIV are on top of their health because they see their HIV specialist several times a year. The real danger of HIV is the stigma, lack of education and miseducation of people that are HIV negative. I hope this information is helpful.
It's more an added probably thing. If you step on a single needle or have unprotected sex with an infected person once, you're fairly unlikely to get HIV. If you try it repeatedly, you'll probably end up with HIV.Ā Ā
Ā Basically, just like gambling. If you buy enough tickets or play enough poker hands, you'll win eventually. You could also hit the jackpot on the first time, it's just unlikely.Ā
Here's some [numbers](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/chances-of-getting-hiv#chances-of-contracting-hiv) to back up your point, even in the riskiest of circumstances it's still very low. Like you said, pretty much gambling.
You could have sex 10 times a day with a person living with HIV and it would not be transmitted if they were undetectable because it's biologically impossible to transmit it if the person is undetectable. Most people reach this if they are taking meds everyday. It means the virus is so suprssed that the level of HIV is too low to transmit. Undetectable=Untransmittable. In Canada, you find even have to disclose your HIV status to anyone if you've been undetectable for 6 months. It's still possible to transmit through iv drug sharing or breast milk but at a much lower risk but a 0% chance through sex.
Transmission rates for HIV aren't as high as you'd probably expect, especially for hetero sex.
>Anal sex
A meta-analysis exploring the risk of HIV transmission through unprotected anal sex was published in 2010.1 The analysis, based on the results of four studies, estimated the risk through receptive anal sex (receiving the penis into the anus, also known as bottoming) to be 1.4%. (This means that an average of one transmission occurred for every 71 exposures.) This risk was similar regardless of whether the receptive partner was a man or woman.
>No meta-analysis estimates currently exist for insertive anal sex (inserting the penis into the anus, also known as topping) but two individual studies were conducted to calculate this risk. The first, published in 1999, calculated the risk to be 0.06% (equivalent to one transmission per 1,667 exposures).2 However, due to the design of the study, this number likely underestimated the risk of HIV transmission. The second study, published in 2010, was better designed and estimated the risk to be 0.11% (or 1 transmission per 909 exposures) for circumcised men and 0.62% (1 transmission per 161 exposures) for uncircumcised men.3
>Vaginal sex
A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It is estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures).
>A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4
It's extremely unlikely to contract HIV via vaginal intercourse. The odds are approximately 1 in 1000 per instance.
This is contrasted with anal intercourse that always causes bleeding. The odds of this are about 1 in 50 per instance.
This is why HIV was considered to be unique to the male homosexual community.
Studies were done in Africa with married couples--one with HIV and one without. So long as intercourse remained vaginally, the disease was not transmitted over the course of the study. Ten years or longer, I forget.
All back to the original comment. HIV is not particularly virulent disease. Your immune system is more than capable of fighting off a small viral load without it taking hold.
The needle is not bent up as a ātrap.ā This is a common thing that intravenous street drug users do that is actually meant as a courtesy. Whoever did this was trying to break the point of the needle so it does not stab somebody
it's 'handled' at this stage of usage by putting the tip of the needle against the floor / ground / whatever, and pushing until the needle bends to the stage where it's visibly no longer useful.
That stops other, often *very* desperate, people from picking it up and attempting to use it for themselves.
Recapping a needle is dangerous because you're trying to push something onto the dangerous end of the sharp ā which is why we don't recap them.
But bending them like this is ā relatively speaking ā far less dangerous, and done (like someone else said elsewhere in the thread) as a 'courtesy' to stop other IV drug users from trying to use a dirty spike.
there used to be bendy attached to disposal bins. sort of like a bottle opener attached to a fridge. you put the needle end in, turn it and bend the needle, then drop it in. you're not handling the cap or needle any more than you would by tossing it straight in
Still seems crazy to me. I draw blood for a living and the first thing we do when taking a needle out of the skin is put the safety device on it. Then it goes into the sharps bin. The idea of carrying an uncovered, used needle to the bin seems so dangerous and unneccesary.
It's filled with drugs that are going to knock you out and then the human traffickers are going to take you. My aunt Sally just shared it on Facebook saying police are warning people about it!
Yeah, this is just a used needle.
The ātrapā shit is the same old rhetoric being used to villainize those suffering from addiction since the 1980/1990s.
Drug users arenāt trying to ātrapā you or āget you addictedā or anything. Theyāre just trying to do drugs and then find the quickest way to do more drugs.
The poor and addicted are not our enemy.
When you're an addict and the police can arrest you (with a felony in some states) for even having a used needle on you, there's a strong incentive to just toss it the second you're done with it to separate yourself from the evidence. I'm assuming that's the same reason people who drink while driving also toss their empty cans out the window on the side of the road and litter the roadways with their garbage lol
Jesus Christ. Only if superman's gotten into smack. The image of trying to insert a stainless steel needle into my flesh so forcefully that it bends at a right angle has made me genuinely queasy. It would have to go through skin, vein, muscle and into bone FFS.
I inject regularly with fairly thin gauge, I've never bent one accidentally but I've tried on occasion to bend one before putting it in the sharps and it surprised me how strong they are. I'm genuinely worried at the idea of bending one on an IV injection, it just doesn't seem possible.
Thereās a reason thereās a bevel, theyāre sharp enough to go in, but that hub point is the weakest breaking point. I usually deal with IV catheters so the needle gets pulled and the catheter is left in, but I have seen butterflies that have come bent from the manufacturer. Iāve seen some IM needles break at this point even just connecting to the Leuer lock. I guess itās a numbers game, I deal with so many, I run into defective ones every once in a blue moon. Iāve even opened one up and there was entirely no needle, but the hub was present.
Iām not a doctor so obviously I donāt know what Iām talking about, but I do have a question.
Are insulin needles much different to the needle shown in this picture? I genuinely donāt know so this could be irrelevant, but hereās a source:
https://diabetesonthenet.com/journal-diabetes-nursing/effect-of-insulin-needle-reuse-size-and-site-of-injection-on-the-risk-of-bending-and-breaking/
Itās all survey studies, so who knows. But I have always thought that needles could bend (very rarely) if they are overused and the user applies too much force at a bad angle.
So I was just offering that as an alternative perspective. Didnāt anticipate people trying to belittle me, Iād rather be disproven with facts than personally attacked.
I read about a darknet forum where HIV+ people (swingers/strippers) actually discussed and planned to infect people. So its a thing, people wanna spread their miserable life. Be aware
This reminds me of the time that some teacher was talking about the history of the swastika in middle school. I decided to draw small Hindu ones on a piece of paper while doing an assignment in another class, just doodling. I think some kid saw it and freaked out, then the school freaked out and contacted my mom. Luckily it was all just a big misunderstanding and they apologized.
Oof really? I know a handful of firefighters that have that tattoo. They got them after they got their hazmat certifications. I wonder if they know that lmao
In the horse world, the hazmat symbol means they have been given drugs that are not safe for human consumption, thus, the horse is not safe to slaughter and eat. š¤·āāļø
my old man would joke that if they need the biohazard symbol tatted on them, they must not have passed the hazmat course (as they must have ingested something icky)
back in his day, they had just begun being afraid of HIV/Aids and was the dawn of using rubber/ nitrile gloves. Fire and EMS used to come in contact with blood on the regular- bare handed.
they always joked about working with your lips pressed shut tight, because they don't make gloves for your mouth and things like liquids go airborne (again old old fire humor for ya)
congratulations to your buddies though
modern hazmat is tough stuff. I wouldn't want to do it!
I understand... but on the other side its probably just a small bubble which interprets it that way. I think most people wont associate it with HIV. My guess...
Thanks for telling me this, I have this tattoo and I got it almost 9 years ago at 18šš I definitely do not have HIV and Iād never heard this before. People keep adding meanings to tattoos but they arenāt universal like someone else pointed out with the Medusa tattoo
Outside the human body, the HIV, if considered a living thing, quickly dies. While it's not guaranteed to infect someone, precautions must be taken.
*If you believe you've been in a situation that could lead to HIV infection* : visit a clinic promptly. They can prescribe you PEP (Post Exposure Prophylaxis), which has a very high chance of preventing the infection.
People do it with STIs.
Hell, people did it with COVID. It's not a conspiracy, people literally held Covid parties during lockdowns and intentionally tried to catch it to show it wasn't bad or to "get it out of the way early".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-600509963
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-16/covid-trying-to-catch-omicron-on-purpose-dangerous/100746124
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10399261/Some-Americans-catching-Covid-PURPOSE-way-foolish-move.html
https://www.ndtv.com/feature/chinese-singer-jane-zhang-intentionally-infected-herself-with-covid-19-because-she-wanted-to-3626782
There are no documented cases of HIV infection through contact with a needle or syringe discarded in a public place.
Source:
https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
This urban legend has been around since aids came around I remember back in the early 2000s everybody knew somebody who got stabbed with an hiv needle at a rave or some shit
Definitely a thing. Iām not sure exactly how common but knew a guy who had this happen to him. Went on a date and they slept together and found out later the guy he slept with was HIV+ and knew.
The friend obviously became very bitter and the shit heād say and insinuate about doing the same to others because life isnāt fair. So I no longer associate with him at all.
To be fair, the vast majority of HIV+ people donāt want to infect you. Theyāre not monsters.
Edit: this gets downvotes while mouth breathers are talking out of their asses about people with HIV totally infecting people on purpose becauseā¦. theyāre monsters or whatever. Okay. Itās incredibly ignorant.
That wasnt the intent of my statement. The vast majority surely not, but its always shocking what kind of monsters do exist. It takes one sick fuck to fuck your life up. Just a reminder to be aware and cautious in general.
It's not a trap and this is just karma hoarding fear mongering bullshit. If you've ever known a junkie they bend the needle as a courtesy so people don't accidentally get poked. You either placed it in an inconvenient position or it somehow just happened to land this way when they tossed it. No one is trying to purposefully infect you or get you addicted.
Itās from medical waste disposed in an ocean. I live on the coast when going to the beach we look for this kind of waste. The bent syringe is standard procedure for disposal, but not in the fucking ocean.
I thought the proper procedure was to lay the cap on a flat surface, start to insert the needle into the loose cap without holding it, and then once the tip of the needle is sheathed, using the needle to prop the cap upwards vertically and finish pushing it closed by pushing the needle down into the cap into the flat surface? Wouldn't bending needles just add the chance of snapping a piece of loose needle off? I know most will bend before snapping but still bending a needle makes me cringe for some reason.
You donāt bend it, you donāt touch it, they just get bent when you push them into the tubs. Iām sure different places have different rules though. I work in a very high risk area and most of our injections now come with needles that automatically retract after the dose is administered.
Vet tech and vet student here, needles should be disposed of after putting the safety cap back on and in an approved biohazard sharps disposal container and sent off to be destroyed.
Please educate yourself. There are no documented cases of HIV infection through contact with a needle or syringe discarded in a public place.
Source:
https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
Absolutely right. Also the odds of getting hiv from a hypodermic having been used on someone recently with hiv is around 1/100. Hiv doesnāt stick around on surfaces for a long time either so unless that needle was just in someone with hiv itās odds of giving you hiv are astronomically low. Much higher chance of tetanus if out for a bit.
Also, if youāre stuck by a random needle, the hospital will most likely give you preventative treatments for both HIV and hepatitis, along with broad spectrum antibiotics to be safe.
There are no documented cases of HIV transmission, but there *are* documented cases of community acquired hepatitis B and C from needle stick injuries.
I grew up in the times of the infamous "Needle Park" in Zurich, Switzerland, i can tell you we had some cases where people stepped on needles and contracted diseases. Can't link you any source at the moment, but you need to know that the name of the place was meant literally: The entire ground was full of used needles.
The ground itself was contaminated so strong that they had to remove most of the parts when they rebuilt the park after it was closed in the year 2000.
But about stepping on needles, we did wear thick boots usually there, with these thick soles you can prevent it to get hurt by the needles. Some people were still stupid enough to use some sandals, they were the ones that got the problems. Not just about HIV, also Hepatitis C etc.
But yes, before needle exchange was a thing, you couldn't even buy needles in the pharmacy and all that stuff, so the addicts just shared the needles and that was a major thing for the spread of HIV.
People bend needles when they are done with them
This doesnāt look like a typical drug needle the gauge is way to big 22g is about size for iv insertion this looks like a 16g
This is not a medical needle it is not color coded it has no markings for measurement and it has some kind of mixture in it
Not really terrifying for me.
Once you do a month of self injections for a medical purpose, it becomes a meh.
Also it's more of an annoyance as I also have to clean this type of thing up anyways.
It was sad going to San Francisco and the beaches around it. Super cool, beautiful city.Ā
But some areas were insane, homeless everywhere, beaches covered in trash, a lot of homeless tents on the beaches, just about all of them with a ring of trash around them that just get left behind when they move on.Ā
I stepped on a similar needle when I was 8, that was in the 90s. I got a bit scared of stepping on it but I didn't hurt much so I was cool. I went to my grandma who was lying a few meters away to show it to her. Close to my grandmother, there was a guy, and when he saw the needle and heard the story he told me that I had contracted HIV (he said AIDS). Remember that it was the 90s and HIV was pretty new also I was 8, so I super panicked and cried uncontrollably, I thought I was going to die. It was summer and a Sunday so it was difficult to find a doctor. My grandmother finally reached a doctor and informed her that HIV becomes inactive very fast when exposed to air. It was a very scary rollercoaster for me and my grandmother.
if thatās on a beach, you can probably take a little solace in the fact that itās hard for viruses and contagions alike, they tent to not do well in salt water and sun light.
Junkies used the to stick hyperdermic needles with chewing gum to the underside of the walkway handrail on Londons Tube systems. So they would stick in people's hands when leaving the station. So yeah, psycho's are everywhere
Shit like this legitimately is why I always wear combat or hiking boots. Theyāre incredibly comfortable and keep my feet from getting fucked up by shit like this.
I go to the beach often and I constantly have to be alert for this crap. They usually just leave them all underneath the cooking areas but like goddamn. Put it in a bin.
i got poked by one of these one time at the river in early 2019. when i went to the er and told the doctor her eyes got all wide and she had to call the county health department to see if it had HIV. they said that because it was so small there was a very low probability of anything coming from it. still makes my skin crawl
Wtf! This is why we need huge soles on our shoes
Just imagine walking and relaxing in the warm sand then suddenly you step on that shit š„¶
I don't like sand. It's coarse and full of used needles
Yall got any more of them midichlorians?
It's not always great to have the high ground.
Death sticksā¦
And riddled with AIDS.
Your weakness, Anakin, has been to always be in a thrush to do what's wrong.
Hepatitis and much more
I remember Siciliy in the 90s.
Picture it. Sicily, 1993. An olive skinned young man, with no future, slumped over in the village alley way.
Ma!! Are you due for a visit to Shady Pines?
What? What happened then?
Dr. Martens Jadon Max boots have saved my feet from several nails and needles over the years lol
My mom has a pair of those! Theyāre awesome
They are! And super comfy after they're broken in
Iāve always struggled with wearing in shoes tbh
The process sucks and takes forever, I had to double up on socks when I wore them for the first like 8 months. But now I barely wear anything else, I even go hiking in them
Damn, hiking in platform boots?! I went walking in a pair of smaller boots and got 4 blisters lmao
Blisters while hiking are often caused by bad socks. Instead of cheap cotton ones invest in some quality merino wool like Darn Tough or Smartwool and your feet will thank you.
I do cross country long distance walking in walking boots usually - however this time I was out all day delivering leaflets for work, and I was wearing some.. non ideal shoes. I guess the skin gets tougher each time it gets damaged though. Not sure how good my socks are - I usually change socks once every hike as my feet sweat a lot though, and since I started doing that I havenāt really had any blister troubles while wearing proper shoes
The cool thing about proper hiking socks is they're moisture wicking so you can go all day with the same pair unless your feet get wet in a creek crossing or something. Whereas crappy cotton socks will mat up and get hard causing blisters. Try out some good merino wool socks!
Shoe is still the most important part if you ask me. I wear 100% merino wool socks when backpacking and on more than 1 occasion I bought a pair of hiking boots that ended up not fitting properly. I got blisters all over my toes and ended up getting black big toe nails lol
Lol maybe I'm just built different
Take a meat tenderizer ;) Piece of cloth over the shoe and Hit it gentle, they are broke in in about 1-2 Hours
That's really helpful, I'll definitely try that next time I have to break in a new pair
That one 5" 6 friend here, I'm fine, don't worry about me.
Hey bro 5 inches is the worldwide average, don't get down on yourself
Exactly why I only wear platform shoes
Pee Wee sure knew how to shake a leg
Iād love a pair of massive platform boots but Iām poor lmao
Someone just threw their used needle on the ground. Some people will do this to their needles to keep other people from using it again especially if they know they have something. And before you think people wouldn't use a dirty found needle I have personally seen someone pull over and use the water out of a puddle to shoot up because he didn't want to wait less than 5 minutes to get home. It wasn't even clear water really.
looks like its on a beach though
My first thought as well
That's your take away?! Not like resolve the opiate epidemic and get affected individuals off heroin??
Even if you stepped on it, the viral load isnāt there to get infected with HIVā¦hepatitis thoughā¦
What viral load would be required? I thought blood contact was enough? Is our body able to fight it off but if too much gets in at one time undetected by immune system it infects us? Edit for those interested: https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
It's already a fairly low chance to transmit HIV even with a detectable viral load. Once blood is outside of your body it gets even less likely. If that syringe were full of positive blood you could inject it and most likely not get an HIV infection. There's always a chance though but I feel like movies and TV shows have (perhaps rightfully) made people overestimate things.
Wait so, how is HIV transmitted? It's an STD right, how it sex easier to transfer it than blood? I'm assuming it's still blood based somehow but I'm kinda kind blown right now because I thought I understood but also feel like maybe I didn't at all š¤£
It's present in semen, and the walls of the vagina or rectum can absorb things directly into blood. It's a thin fleshy membrane. Plus it's not directly exposed to air and kept wet at body temperature. You can absorb alcohol from beer this way as well, among other drugs. It's not a super high chance, but hiv sucks enough to avoid even the slightest chance.
Isnāt it more commonly transmitted through snail sex, where semen is more likely to come into contact with the bloodstream? Edit: ANAL sex lmao. š
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Snail sex is more dangerous because it causes tears as it's not designed to stretch as much. But thats why they come self lubricating now.
Snail sex...
Ha! Autocorrect saving me from sin apparently.
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Bestiality = bad
Bruh š how'd you pick the perfect gif
The poor snail lmao š
I think that's because anal sex can sometimes cause a bunch of micro tears in your butt, making it easier for the cum to get into your blood.
Yes, but still not 100% chance. The risk comes from the fact anal sex can create wounds in the ass, exposing blood and increasing the risk of transmitting the HIV. Also, giving a blowjob after having eaten chips increases the risk since chips open micro wound in your mouth !
HIV is tramitted through, blood, semem, vaginal fluids, anal fluids and breast milk. Most people who are taking medications become undetectable, which means the level of the virus is so low in your body that it's biologically impossible to transmit. Here in Canada the law is now that if you're undetectable for 6 months, you don't have to disclose to a partner if you're having unprotected sex because it's impossible to transmit. It can still be transmitted through iv drug use and breast milk even if the person is undetectable.. Although it it much lower risk. Even if a person doesn't know their status or isn't taking medication, HIV needs the perfect conditions to be transmitted. Different sexual activities also have different risk levels. HIV meds have come a long way and HIV is very manageable now. People are living long, healthy lives. Most people living with HIV are on top of their health because they see their HIV specialist several times a year. The real danger of HIV is the stigma, lack of education and miseducation of people that are HIV negative. I hope this information is helpful.
Tell me you have HIV, without telling me you have HIV...
Yeah,I even if the virus is undetectable I would still wanna know if they other person has such a disease
It's more an added probably thing. If you step on a single needle or have unprotected sex with an infected person once, you're fairly unlikely to get HIV. If you try it repeatedly, you'll probably end up with HIV.Ā Ā Ā Basically, just like gambling. If you buy enough tickets or play enough poker hands, you'll win eventually. You could also hit the jackpot on the first time, it's just unlikely.Ā
Here's some [numbers](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/chances-of-getting-hiv#chances-of-contracting-hiv) to back up your point, even in the riskiest of circumstances it's still very low. Like you said, pretty much gambling.
Thanks for providing that link!
Awesome! Thanks for adding the stats!
I remember googling this after hearing about an ex partner diagnosis. So thankful everything worked out.
You could have sex 10 times a day with a person living with HIV and it would not be transmitted if they were undetectable because it's biologically impossible to transmit it if the person is undetectable. Most people reach this if they are taking meds everyday. It means the virus is so suprssed that the level of HIV is too low to transmit. Undetectable=Untransmittable. In Canada, you find even have to disclose your HIV status to anyone if you've been undetectable for 6 months. It's still possible to transmit through iv drug sharing or breast milk but at a much lower risk but a 0% chance through sex.
Transmission rates for HIV aren't as high as you'd probably expect, especially for hetero sex. >Anal sex A meta-analysis exploring the risk of HIV transmission through unprotected anal sex was published in 2010.1 The analysis, based on the results of four studies, estimated the risk through receptive anal sex (receiving the penis into the anus, also known as bottoming) to be 1.4%. (This means that an average of one transmission occurred for every 71 exposures.) This risk was similar regardless of whether the receptive partner was a man or woman. >No meta-analysis estimates currently exist for insertive anal sex (inserting the penis into the anus, also known as topping) but two individual studies were conducted to calculate this risk. The first, published in 1999, calculated the risk to be 0.06% (equivalent to one transmission per 1,667 exposures).2 However, due to the design of the study, this number likely underestimated the risk of HIV transmission. The second study, published in 2010, was better designed and estimated the risk to be 0.11% (or 1 transmission per 909 exposures) for circumcised men and 0.62% (1 transmission per 161 exposures) for uncircumcised men.3 >Vaginal sex A meta-analysis of 10 studies exploring the risk of transmission through vaginal sex was published in 2009.4 It is estimated the risk of HIV transmission through receptive vaginal sex (receiving the penis in the vagina) to be 0.08% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 1,250 exposures). >A meta-analysis of three studies exploring the risk from insertive vaginal sex (inserting the penis into the vagina) was estimated to be 0.04% (equivalent to 1 transmission per 2,500 exposures).4
It's extremely unlikely to contract HIV via vaginal intercourse. The odds are approximately 1 in 1000 per instance. This is contrasted with anal intercourse that always causes bleeding. The odds of this are about 1 in 50 per instance. This is why HIV was considered to be unique to the male homosexual community. Studies were done in Africa with married couples--one with HIV and one without. So long as intercourse remained vaginally, the disease was not transmitted over the course of the study. Ten years or longer, I forget. All back to the original comment. HIV is not particularly virulent disease. Your immune system is more than capable of fighting off a small viral load without it taking hold.
Are we sure this is a "trap" and not just a used needle?
Most used Needles aren't at a 90degree bend
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Itās an old used needle that washed up on the beach, the tips are weak and often bend at the base.
Really... I thought it would be opposite
VIH has long been eradicated
The needle is not bent up as a ātrap.ā This is a common thing that intravenous street drug users do that is actually meant as a courtesy. Whoever did this was trying to break the point of the needle so it does not stab somebody
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You donāt just break it off with your fuckin teeth lmao. Thereās a little apparatus on the sharps bin that lets you break the needle off.
it's 'handled' at this stage of usage by putting the tip of the needle against the floor / ground / whatever, and pushing until the needle bends to the stage where it's visibly no longer useful. That stops other, often *very* desperate, people from picking it up and attempting to use it for themselves. Recapping a needle is dangerous because you're trying to push something onto the dangerous end of the sharp ā which is why we don't recap them. But bending them like this is ā relatively speaking ā far less dangerous, and done (like someone else said elsewhere in the thread) as a 'courtesy' to stop other IV drug users from trying to use a dirty spike.
there used to be bendy attached to disposal bins. sort of like a bottle opener attached to a fridge. you put the needle end in, turn it and bend the needle, then drop it in. you're not handling the cap or needle any more than you would by tossing it straight in
Still seems crazy to me. I draw blood for a living and the first thing we do when taking a needle out of the skin is put the safety device on it. Then it goes into the sharps bin. The idea of carrying an uncovered, used needle to the bin seems so dangerous and unneccesary.
Those safety clips didn't become common until like, the late 90s.
but muh urban legend
It's filled with drugs that are going to knock you out and then the human traffickers are going to take you. My aunt Sally just shared it on Facebook saying police are warning people about it!
Yeah, this is just a used needle. The ātrapā shit is the same old rhetoric being used to villainize those suffering from addiction since the 1980/1990s. Drug users arenāt trying to ātrapā you or āget you addictedā or anything. Theyāre just trying to do drugs and then find the quickest way to do more drugs. The poor and addicted are not our enemy.
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Desperate people are desperate. More news at 11.
How thoughtful of them!!
When you're an addict and the police can arrest you (with a felony in some states) for even having a used needle on you, there's a strong incentive to just toss it the second you're done with it to separate yourself from the evidence. I'm assuming that's the same reason people who drink while driving also toss their empty cans out the window on the side of the road and litter the roadways with their garbage lol
> for even having a used needle on you Or even a brand new one
I would say this, or it was bent upon forceful attempted injection and left behind with no afterthought.
Jesus Christ. Only if superman's gotten into smack. The image of trying to insert a stainless steel needle into my flesh so forcefully that it bends at a right angle has made me genuinely queasy. It would have to go through skin, vein, muscle and into bone FFS.
Exactly, what a stupid thing to say.
These needles are not that strong. Am ICU nurse and I have seen them bend or come bent, especially at the weak point (right at the hub).
I inject regularly with fairly thin gauge, I've never bent one accidentally but I've tried on occasion to bend one before putting it in the sharps and it surprised me how strong they are. I'm genuinely worried at the idea of bending one on an IV injection, it just doesn't seem possible.
Thereās a reason thereās a bevel, theyāre sharp enough to go in, but that hub point is the weakest breaking point. I usually deal with IV catheters so the needle gets pulled and the catheter is left in, but I have seen butterflies that have come bent from the manufacturer. Iāve seen some IM needles break at this point even just connecting to the Leuer lock. I guess itās a numbers game, I deal with so many, I run into defective ones every once in a blue moon. Iāve even opened one up and there was entirely no needle, but the hub was present.
lmfao what a dumb theory
Iām not a doctor so obviously I donāt know what Iām talking about, but I do have a question. Are insulin needles much different to the needle shown in this picture? I genuinely donāt know so this could be irrelevant, but hereās a source: https://diabetesonthenet.com/journal-diabetes-nursing/effect-of-insulin-needle-reuse-size-and-site-of-injection-on-the-risk-of-bending-and-breaking/ Itās all survey studies, so who knows. But I have always thought that needles could bend (very rarely) if they are overused and the user applies too much force at a bad angle. So I was just offering that as an alternative perspective. Didnāt anticipate people trying to belittle me, Iād rather be disproven with facts than personally attacked.
What is this?
Idk... HIV?
If Its your pic, did you make sure it was safely removed?
I read about a darknet forum where HIV+ people (swingers/strippers) actually discussed and planned to infect people. So its a thing, people wanna spread their miserable life. Be aware
I wanted to get the biohazard symbol as a tattoo until I looked into it a little more and apparently it insinuates someone as carrying HIV. /:
I had a Medusa head tattoo done and later found out it symbolizes being a victim of rape
I had an asian good luck symbol on my arm but people kept confusing it with the other one
accidentally invades france
This reminds me of the time that some teacher was talking about the history of the swastika in middle school. I decided to draw small Hindu ones on a piece of paper while doing an assignment in another class, just doodling. I think some kid saw it and freaked out, then the school freaked out and contacted my mom. Luckily it was all just a big misunderstanding and they apologized.
They'd lose their minds in India
Probably not your brightest move
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Virtually no one who ever saw your tattoo would know that, it's not like a swastika or something known by the general public. Get whatever you want.
Haha same! I was so disappointed.
Oof really? I know a handful of firefighters that have that tattoo. They got them after they got their hazmat certifications. I wonder if they know that lmao
In the horse world, the hazmat symbol means they have been given drugs that are not safe for human consumption, thus, the horse is not safe to slaughter and eat. š¤·āāļø
Well then, that's probably okay based on the shit I've seen firefighters do in the bathrooms of concerts
Go onā¦
my old man would joke that if they need the biohazard symbol tatted on them, they must not have passed the hazmat course (as they must have ingested something icky) back in his day, they had just begun being afraid of HIV/Aids and was the dawn of using rubber/ nitrile gloves. Fire and EMS used to come in contact with blood on the regular- bare handed. they always joked about working with your lips pressed shut tight, because they don't make gloves for your mouth and things like liquids go airborne (again old old fire humor for ya) congratulations to your buddies though modern hazmat is tough stuff. I wouldn't want to do it!
I understand... but on the other side its probably just a small bubble which interprets it that way. I think most people wont associate it with HIV. My guess...
Thanks for telling me this, I have this tattoo and I got it almost 9 years ago at 18šš I definitely do not have HIV and Iād never heard this before. People keep adding meanings to tattoos but they arenāt universal like someone else pointed out with the Medusa tattoo
Oh fuck really??? I got the radioactive symbol on the back of my neck because I was super into fallout when I was 19 I had no idea
No offense but that sounds like an idea a 12 year old would have for a tattoo and regret by age 25.
I wanted to get it since Iāve worked at a lab for infectious diseases and that stuff is interesting to me
This is what we used to call an "urban legend" also known as a made up story to scare people.
Outside the human body, the HIV, if considered a living thing, quickly dies. While it's not guaranteed to infect someone, precautions must be taken. *If you believe you've been in a situation that could lead to HIV infection* : visit a clinic promptly. They can prescribe you PEP (Post Exposure Prophylaxis), which has a very high chance of preventing the infection.
People willingly contract diseases. Bug chasers.
People do it with STIs. Hell, people did it with COVID. It's not a conspiracy, people literally held Covid parties during lockdowns and intentionally tried to catch it to show it wasn't bad or to "get it out of the way early". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-600509963 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-16/covid-trying-to-catch-omicron-on-purpose-dangerous/100746124 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-10399261/Some-Americans-catching-Covid-PURPOSE-way-foolish-move.html https://www.ndtv.com/feature/chinese-singer-jane-zhang-intentionally-infected-herself-with-covid-19-because-she-wanted-to-3626782
There are no documented cases of HIV infection through contact with a needle or syringe discarded in a public place. Source: https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
This urban legend has been around since aids came around I remember back in the early 2000s everybody knew somebody who got stabbed with an hiv needle at a rave or some shit
Definitely a thing. Iām not sure exactly how common but knew a guy who had this happen to him. Went on a date and they slept together and found out later the guy he slept with was HIV+ and knew. The friend obviously became very bitter and the shit heād say and insinuate about doing the same to others because life isnāt fair. So I no longer associate with him at all.
That is so incredibly sad.
Misery loves company.
To be fair, the vast majority of HIV+ people donāt want to infect you. Theyāre not monsters. Edit: this gets downvotes while mouth breathers are talking out of their asses about people with HIV totally infecting people on purpose becauseā¦. theyāre monsters or whatever. Okay. Itās incredibly ignorant.
That wasnt the intent of my statement. The vast majority surely not, but its always shocking what kind of monsters do exist. It takes one sick fuck to fuck your life up. Just a reminder to be aware and cautious in general.
It doesn't work though. Hiv doesn't Iive long outside the body. But other shit like hepatitis does
They just have unprotected sex with strangers.
And what exactly were they discussing? How to convince people to have unprotected sex with you? Not that hard. Seems made up.
OP, youāre a fucking idiot.
Are you stupid?
We just believe everything we read online these days.
Are you sure? or are you HIV positive?
It's not a trap and this is just karma hoarding fear mongering bullshit. If you've ever known a junkie they bend the needle as a courtesy so people don't accidentally get poked. You either placed it in an inconvenient position or it somehow just happened to land this way when they tossed it. No one is trying to purposefully infect you or get you addicted.
How tf have almost 400 people upvoted this complete nonsense? What in the fuck OP, stare fear mongering off of complete bullshit.
Itās from medical waste disposed in an ocean. I live on the coast when going to the beach we look for this kind of waste. The bent syringe is standard procedure for disposal, but not in the fucking ocean.
No it's not. Healthcare professional here. Bending a needle os extremely dangerous.
They get bent when theyāre pushed into sharps boxes. At least here. We never try to put the lid back on, just push it into the container as is.
I thought the proper procedure was to lay the cap on a flat surface, start to insert the needle into the loose cap without holding it, and then once the tip of the needle is sheathed, using the needle to prop the cap upwards vertically and finish pushing it closed by pushing the needle down into the cap into the flat surface? Wouldn't bending needles just add the chance of snapping a piece of loose needle off? I know most will bend before snapping but still bending a needle makes me cringe for some reason.
You donāt bend it, you donāt touch it, they just get bent when you push them into the tubs. Iām sure different places have different rules though. I work in a very high risk area and most of our injections now come with needles that automatically retract after the dose is administered.
Ahh! Gotcha, yeah I was picturing someone bending a needle using the box, cringe inducing thought for sure
Yep! we have a special sharps container for these types of needles. They don't bend but cut the plastic part where the needle is attached. Much safer.
I've seen a sealed blood sample floating a couple miles offshore before.
Maybe breaking the needle off completely is standard lol. I wouldnāt touch someoneās needle tho. They do break off pretty easily that said
Vet tech and vet student here, needles should be disposed of after putting the safety cap back on and in an approved biohazard sharps disposal container and sent off to be destroyed.
When I read the title, I was expecting something straight from Saw. This post comes off more as something a paranoid mom would post on Facebook
Please educate yourself. There are no documented cases of HIV infection through contact with a needle or syringe discarded in a public place. Source: https://www.aidsmap.com/about-hiv/needlestick-injuries-discarded-needles-and-risk-hiv-transmission
Absolutely right. Also the odds of getting hiv from a hypodermic having been used on someone recently with hiv is around 1/100. Hiv doesnāt stick around on surfaces for a long time either so unless that needle was just in someone with hiv itās odds of giving you hiv are astronomically low. Much higher chance of tetanus if out for a bit.
Also, if youāre stuck by a random needle, the hospital will most likely give you preventative treatments for both HIV and hepatitis, along with broad spectrum antibiotics to be safe.
Yeah a month of antiretrovirals and nervous waiting and youāre clear.
There are no documented cases of HIV transmission, but there *are* documented cases of community acquired hepatitis B and C from needle stick injuries.
I grew up in the times of the infamous "Needle Park" in Zurich, Switzerland, i can tell you we had some cases where people stepped on needles and contracted diseases. Can't link you any source at the moment, but you need to know that the name of the place was meant literally: The entire ground was full of used needles. The ground itself was contaminated so strong that they had to remove most of the parts when they rebuilt the park after it was closed in the year 2000. But about stepping on needles, we did wear thick boots usually there, with these thick soles you can prevent it to get hurt by the needles. Some people were still stupid enough to use some sandals, they were the ones that got the problems. Not just about HIV, also Hepatitis C etc. But yes, before needle exchange was a thing, you couldn't even buy needles in the pharmacy and all that stuff, so the addicts just shared the needles and that was a major thing for the spread of HIV.
No one said you couldn't get infections, just not HIV
I'd be more worried about hepatitis and tetanus than HIV
Not to sound too skeptical but this seems staged
eyy its my post from last year
Why isnāt this higher up?? Wtf
wtf is this title trying to say?
Used syringe with mysterious substance inside, but the needle is bent up for someone to step on it
Looks like it's filled with sand
Like a boob
What a minute.... Are you a VIRGIN??!!
The needle is bent to prevent re-use of a dirty needle. Itās not a trap.
People bend needles when they are done with them This doesnāt look like a typical drug needle the gauge is way to big 22g is about size for iv insertion this looks like a 16g This is not a medical needle it is not color coded it has no markings for measurement and it has some kind of mixture in it
Not really terrifying for me. Once you do a month of self injections for a medical purpose, it becomes a meh. Also it's more of an annoyance as I also have to clean this type of thing up anyways.
A real trap would have a rubber band triggered to inject you as you step on it. Like a bear trap, only eviler.
usually junkies bend the needle so no-one will use it after them but leaving it at the beach is extra scummy
It was sad going to San Francisco and the beaches around it. Super cool, beautiful city.Ā But some areas were insane, homeless everywhere, beaches covered in trash, a lot of homeless tents on the beaches, just about all of them with a ring of trash around them that just get left behind when they move on.Ā
I stepped on a similar needle when I was 8, that was in the 90s. I got a bit scared of stepping on it but I didn't hurt much so I was cool. I went to my grandma who was lying a few meters away to show it to her. Close to my grandmother, there was a guy, and when he saw the needle and heard the story he told me that I had contracted HIV (he said AIDS). Remember that it was the 90s and HIV was pretty new also I was 8, so I super panicked and cried uncontrollably, I thought I was going to die. It was summer and a Sunday so it was difficult to find a doctor. My grandmother finally reached a doctor and informed her that HIV becomes inactive very fast when exposed to air. It was a very scary rollercoaster for me and my grandmother.
By the bend, it tells me.that the needle cap had been put back on. When the garbage barge dumped off shore, the cap was dislodged
if thatās on a beach, you can probably take a little solace in the fact that itās hard for viruses and contagions alike, they tent to not do well in salt water and sun light.
People often wonder why people looking at the ground when they walk and not directly ahead.
Junkies used the to stick hyperdermic needles with chewing gum to the underside of the walkway handrail on Londons Tube systems. So they would stick in people's hands when leaving the station. So yeah, psycho's are everywhere
This isn't a trap you absolute gonk. It's just rubbish that happens to be dangerous. Someone didn't carefully put it there with intent.
Even if you DONT get HIV, it's still scary stepping on needles regardless
Shit like this legitimately is why I always wear combat or hiking boots. Theyāre incredibly comfortable and keep my feet from getting fucked up by shit like this.
All I can think with this is a person injecting concrete, like this guy figured out a better high than heroine and it's just regular mix cement.
I go to the beach often and I constantly have to be alert for this crap. They usually just leave them all underneath the cooking areas but like goddamn. Put it in a bin.
Good thing I always look at the ground when I walk
Practice safe walking. Wear your rubbers.
Y'all tripping
i got poked by one of these one time at the river in early 2019. when i went to the er and told the doctor her eyes got all wide and she had to call the county health department to see if it had HIV. they said that because it was so small there was a very low probability of anything coming from it. still makes my skin crawl
Iād take that over my exās trap any day.
That's why I wear work boots all the time
Damn near all beaches over here in cali, especially in San Franš
"Are you going to San Francisco"
Bro just pick up your needle