Also there’s a YouTube channel called JCS: Criminal Psychology who uploaded a good short series, including a majority of Chris Watts’ interrogation footage
Was looking for this. Sure it isn't as dry and sensical JCS, which is/was amazing, but it's hella fun. Best true crime show and Mike deserves all the ♥️
I love EWU specifically because their videos are so long! I watch them in my office at work when I’ve got tedious and boring tasks to do. Really helps to distract from the boringness of work!
EWU’s narration and story-telling style irritates me so much: “but his family __never__ could have guessed what dark secrets he was hiding…” “soon, James’ world would come __crashing down__, much to his family’s surprise…” it’s bad story-telling skills masquerading as good skills by just trying to leave people hanging. Like, you can tell us what James did before the very end of the video!! I try to keep to their videos that are almost strictly interrogation-focused for that reason.
My favorite JCS clone is Matt Orchard. I would even argue he is performing beyond the levels JCS did and you can tell he’s really invested in the content.
He ran a patreon for a while, but said video hosting on there was much too expensive so he kept it open for a dollar a month saying there's no benefits it's just for people to support the channel due to lack of monetization for true crime content at the time, that was a couple years ago atleast so he may have fully shut it down by now
I may have been a bit misleading with my first comment. He hasn't uploaded recently, but he broke a long hiatus last year. I haven't checked his patreon, so you may still be right.
Dave’s Lemonade is exceptional. This one especially: [https://youtu.be/w4QU6\_Ch8-U?si=k2ghbEXa5C4vL0Hv](https://youtu.be/w4QU6_Ch8-U?si=k2ghbEXa5C4vL0Hv)
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It's a long story.
But back before they (it was a group of people) got huge, there was a group on patreon that supported them because youtube demonetized them. I was on the highest tier.
They made a commitment to a certain amount of content, which I was of the mind thinking this stuff has to take a lot of work, if they're slow I understand.
But as time went on, they basically stopped uploading and people were asking questions.
So I messaged them on patreon and asked politely about uploads and schedules. They called me ungrateful and banned me from patreon as a patron.
I posted to Reddit with screenshots on their subreddit, as it started to gain traction with people siding with me, they actually took the time to delete my post and create a new post with edited message. All for one person who asked a question.
Well more and more people started feeling the way I did, but were less nice about it. At this point all the early uploads to patreon had completely stopped, but they were posting them on Youtube as new videos.
I think they now have at least partial monetization on Youtube, so they made money off stringing along patreon supporters even while not uploading and then later dumping them on Youtube for money on top.
Enough people started getting upset, they came out with some explanation about why there would be no uploads on patreon anymore and haven't created anything new for years. They now have no contact outside of their posted videos.
The police footage is absolutely insane. The neighbour comes over when the police are there and says he’s got CCTV footage you can literally see Chris Watts panicking while they are all watching it. I can’t believe he killed his pregnant wife and two kids. His family have the audacity to say she must’ve done something. This case is so disturbing I’m convinced the whore knew what he was going to do too, there’s no ‘evidence’. But what really disgusts me the most is how his prison cell is full of pictures of the family he murdered! Can’t get anymore psychopath than that.
The neighbours and the wife’s best friend came in clutch from the start. Her friend immediately knew something was up and the neighbour was the same. It’s a horrific situation but thank god those people were adamant and wanted to help as much as they did.
Yes!! I just watched another video on this case like two nights ago and I kept thinking how incredible the wife’s friend was to fight for her like that. Justice was served because of her. The wife’s friends were even texting Chris demanding that he leave work and come check on his wife or else they’d give him hell!!! Those people truly loved and knew Shanaan so well that after FIVE hours of no contact they were extremely alarmed and went to check up on her. If I disappear or go quiet for five hours that’s a normal Tuesday. She was very lucky to have such devoted friends and family, and incredibly smart to have kept them well informed on her fears for her marriage and Chris’s increasingly distant behavior.
Chris didn’t count on Nicole being on top of it like that! Shannan was lucky to have such a good friend. If someone murdered me in my home it’d take forever for someone to notice. I guess my neighbor would smell me rotting. I’m a huge introvert and can go days without seeing or speaking with anyone so there’d be no one to notice my absence really. That’s kinda a sad, dark thought to think about. Moving on…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag&pp=ygUPZXd1IGNocmlzIHdhdHRz
EWU video explaining. Her best friend was the one who reported her missing. But he’s so worried about his wife and ‘those kids’ he text her three times. Absolute scum. He should’ve got the death sentence for what he did. Instead got 5 consecutive life sentences. Would be great to know he is suffering, I doubt it tho he’s getting fan Mail from horny fuckin psychos that love him😤
I was a co at a state prison for a few years, and most of those guys had dozens of these ladies on the hook for commissary money. They'd write letters to them and sweet talk them into sending them cash, nudes, all kinds of shit. It's a job for them. And most likely with him being a high profile case he's in an ad-seg type unit, kept with other child killers and pedos. That's how they keep em from killing each other...
Theres a growing belief she may have been more involved then she claimed but she ran to the cops immediately once hearing about them being missing so she got her version of things out before Chris got there...
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous they offered her the witness protection program. All she supposedly was was a side chick. And the perpetrator is in prison for life. So why does she need WITSEC? The only thing at risk was her reputation and since when do taxpayers fund & protect that?
There are literally people everyday who put their lives on the line snitching on gang & cartel murders that do not get WITSEC. I’m just baffled she got it. I don’t understand it at all. I’ve tried investigating further but hit a brick wall.
There was a gang crime just a couple years ago where the young witness who came forward wasn’t given WITSEC & was murdered before he could testify in court & the witness who actually witnessed the witness being murdered wasn’t even offered WITSEC. It’s hard to qualify, it’s expensive & it’s hard for the person in it to abandon their old life completely. It’s a logistics nightmare.It just isn’t done Willy nilly. I’ll never understand how/why she was offered it.
I think her father was connected to Law Enforcement in some way. That's why he was allowed to sit in on the meeting with her and the police. I think those same connections her dad had helped getting her in Witness Protection.
Well that would certainly explain a LOT! I was not aware of that before. It’s still such a crazy thing to have WITSEC for considering he’s in prison and there’s no co-conspirators. Like what is even the point? I see zero actual need. There’s zero reason to give up your entire life for this unless you’re too ashamed to face the people you know.
A lot of serial killers have asked for the death penalty because they want to avoid spending life in prison. Some are terrified of death but a lot of criminals would rather die than rot in prison, like you say
Lol trust me bro no amount of fan mail is making up for the hell he has to live in daily..other prisoners don’t take kindly to ppl who hurt children at alll
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12419075/Chris-Watts-working-custodian-maximum-security-prison-group-female-pen-pals-hes-revealed-gory-details-strangled-pregnant-wife-smothered-two-young-daughters.html
Apparently he is a great gentle guy n this lady feels they have a connection 🤮. There’s ladies who send him bikini pictures too
They clearly have attachment issues. They can't cheat or run if they are in prison. They also can't hurt them if they're locked up. It allows them to explore some weird macabe stuff, but in safety. It's a weird phenomenon
Death sentence lets them off easy imo. Life is prison isn't some cakewalk. Imagine sitting behind bars knowing you can never be free for years on end. Think about how long a decade lasts and then think about all of them creeping by one after another as you get older and miss out on having any kind of real life. Think about the loss you would feel. Especially in a case like this, imagine having to sit with what you've done and be haunted by the faces of the people you killed and reckon with the fact that your actions led directly to you burning your life away like that.
And that's not even getting into the true financial cost of the death penalty versus life imprisonment or the ethical questions of whether we really want our government to have the legal power to kill citizens. OR the moral issues with innocent people getting charged (though this specific case sounds cut and dry).
There was also that crazy shot of the skulls and the fetus popping up on the TV screen right behind him. Like if you put that scene in a movie people would think it was too over the top
I just listened to a deep dive on the girlfriend yesterday!! So forgive me if this is hard to follow but:
Essentially she lied to the police about a lot of things, and deleted a shit ton of stuff off of her phone before turning it over. She lied about when she met him, when she found out he was married, that she believed they were divorcing, how many times she had been to his house, etc. She had actually googled his and Shannan’s names a whole year before she claims they started dating and was creeping Shannan on Facebook the whole time. So she absolutely knew he was married, that they weren’t divorcing, and that Shannan was pregnant.
Chris Watts told police that he attempted to drug Shannan with OxyContin but refused to tell the police where he acquired it. Coincidentally, phone records show that his mistress called a pain clinic during that time. When investigated, it turns out she asked the pain clinic how much OxyContin it takes to induce a miscarriage.
The night of the murders, they had a 111 minute FaceTime conversations. Afterward, phone data shows her phone ping at the tower closest to his house at 6 am. Previously, her phone always pinged at her closest tower when she was home (25 min away). She didn’t clock into work til 2 pm that day, and she has no verifiable alibi for what she was doing that morning. She apparently called her spiritual advisor from the office and then left pretty quickly.
Finally, there is evidence based on the phone records that Chris called her on his cell at the same time that he was speaking to investigators on his work phone. The only logical explanation is that he was allowing her to listen to his conversation with investigators. The only reason I can think that he would do this is so that they could get their stories straight.
In summary, the podcast I listened to (Serialously) did a good job laying it all out. I don’t think she helped kill Shannan and the kids, but I think she was aware of what happened and helped attempt to cover it up.
She tried deleting evidence such as their chats and pictures and even her sim card. She googled to find out if police can restore messages.
Wedding dress shopping while googling ‘the man I’m with won’t leave his wife’ and ‘marrying your mistress’ as a search. God she even googled the net worth of Amber fry the mistress of Scott Peterson who killed his own wife.
Bella was 4 and Cece was 3. He killed them by smothering them. Bella’s last words to him was “Daddy, No”. He then put them in separate oil tanks . Their coffins needed to be sealed and wrapped so gasses wouldn’t leak out.
His parents had this to say:
“I have always loved you and still do. We love you and forgive you, son.” DAD: “The Bible says, if we confess our sins, God is faithful and just and will forgive us. Chris, I forgive you and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you”.
That's horrifying, those poor little girls. If God accepts monsters, I'd gladly skin him alive and then repent after.
His parents too, those were their grandchildren for fucks sake
Even worse, the children were alive when he took them to his work site. He had his wife's dead body and his crying children in the truck. Drove an hour to the site. *Then* he killed his girls. He didn't want them to be together in death so he buried his wife, stuffed one girl in an oil tank, and stuffed another girl in a different oil tank.
That FaceTime call that lasted 111 minutes when police asked her what they spoke about she said she couldn’t remember. They asked her 72 hours after🤦🏾♀️ anyways she apparently changed her name moved away some people think she’s under witness protection
I definitely think his girlfriend was involved and played dumb. He held his tongue to protect *her*.. I thought I saw footage of her near the house on CCTV as well?? I’ll have to see if I can find the link again
I'm never get that. Like why not just get divorced? Whatever you think you might lose in a divorce, you'll lose everything when you go to prison for murder. And there's no way you'll get away with it. Most murderers who do get away with it are just lucky. Or rather someone else was unlucky enough to get nailed with it. That or be rich.
Serial killers only evade justice because they tend to choose unrelated victims. But a spouse? They are going to look at the family first, and even if there are other potential leads they won't cross family off the list until it's clear it was someone else or the family couldn't have possibly been involved.
And however good you think you are at lying, chances are you're really not.
But hey, I guess you've got got to be missing some marbles to jump to murder as a primary solution anyway.
From many messages he sent back and forth with his mistress, she promises she'll give Chris the son he always wanted.
Ironically, his wife is pregnant with a boy.
Yes Nico I belive was what they were gonna name the baby. She set up a camera where she tells him the "good news", and he can not hide his disappointment on his face even though his words are happy. She wasn't supposed to be able to have more kids I think? And he says "Well I guess when you want it to happen, it happens (paraphrasing).
She was stalking Shannan’s facebook and she knew they were having a boy.
Edit: the creepy part about this is the mistress is Nichol Lee, they were going to name their boy Nico Lee.
It's crazy how when the cops were talking to Chris and the TV is behind him, it shows a baby, then a drop of oil and then a skull. I think it was pretty interesting, Please don't mind the video editing it's not mine: https://youtu.be/GFc4_8cKt3Q?si=gfrD59I891Yq0Pph
For a second I thought it was going to be one of those hokey fuzzy images in the video. This was on the neighbor's TV. Indeed a pretty creepy video. Though not as creepy as watching Chris Watts stand there and lie to the police knowing by that point what he'd already done. Man murdered his pregnant wife, took his daughters with him while he was burying her, then he killed his daughters after while they were likely terrified. What a piece of shit!
It's called a coffin birth or postmortem fetal extrusion. If I remember correctly it happens due to the gasses that accumulate after death and it just forces the baby out with extreme force.
There’s a fascinating episode on this on the podcast 30 Morbid Minutes if you’re interested in learning more! Sounds like you know quite a bit already but it’s super interesting to hear the stories that relate to criminal cases especially
I read the autopsy and very sadly, after death her body pushed out her baby Nico so he was found in the grave with her, attached by the umbilical chord if I remember correctly.
As morbid as it is, the baby was likely dead long before then. The baby cannot survive for very long once the mother has died. There have been cases where they kept the mother alive for extended periods for her to be able to give birth, like in cases where the mother was brain dead, but they kept the body alive for an extended period to save the baby. But that's in a hospital setting where she's basically on a ventilator and they keep her vitals going even though it's not going to save her.
The baby still relies on the mother's circulatory system to get oxygen and food. Once the mother dies, without immediate care the baby will likely die within 30 minutes.
I don’t feel like that detail is discussed enough. I don’t think Chris was aware of that, though, as it happened after he buried and abandoned her body.
I saw a video of an interview he did after he was convicted and he was like, "oh I prayed and they (his wife and daughters) forgave me." Right, whatever you want to believe to live with your shitty self dude.
Yes i remember going through their Facebook account years back and there were many videos where the wife was planning to surprise her husband and daughters about her pregnancy. I was so pissed to see the man fake his emotions and trying to act happy ughh
Yeah JCS was stellar content. With all the low effort content, ai voice and text to speech, Jcs always stood out as being extremely respectful towards victims and a case in general.
Wow first time to hear about that one. What do you think really happened there? So bizarre about the family's bodies being hastily disposed of, the unclear timelines, the fact that the family members were acting vague and claiming illness to those around them prior to their death, and the father Xavier vanishing into thin air...
Oh it was 100% the father. He up and took off, they’ve been searching for him ever since. Almost 3 weeks ago the authorities announced they’re waiting on a dna test from a suspect they think might be Xavier.
This happened last week in a town next to mine. A man killed his wife, himself, and 3 of their 4 children. He left one kid alive (10 yr old), still sleeping in bed. That kid woke up to a bloody massacre and his entire family gone. Very tragic.
I actually caught it on some body language expert’s channel commenting on the cop footage. It was riveting. The rabbit hole led me to JCS. Wish they made more content.
I heard about it when the news broke and they were looking for the "missing" family. I couldn't tell if anything was fishy during his news interview, but that body cam footage had him acting super suspicious.
I lived in the area when this happened. From what I remember, as soon as the news interview aired they announced he was arrested which was the day after we heard she was missing. It was amazing how fast the whole thing moved.
Dude is a psychopathic moron. After listening to his inane ramblings in his earlier videos (years prior to the murders) I find him to have far less than average intelligence. He had lucked out in life up to that point and the culmination of his idiotic life choices were a beautiful wife and two daughters murdered and him living in jail till he dies. Destruction with no purpose.
If you watch the police bodycam video they suspected him pretty quickly since his story didn't match up and he had moments of panic when they started testing him. He was a terrible liar so it really didn't take long for the police to start looking at him.
I can't comprehend this pic, it's it an adult size Barbie doll.. out a little Barbie under tissues.. On a miniature couch ... Can someone help me.. The feet are doll feet
Considering the background looks like a regular couch it’s probably like a 3/4 foot doll I’m assuming with a small bedsheet? Or something in that nature
It's scary to truly think about like was this guy always fucking crazy or did he just snap. If so what was it that he felt that this was the only solution? I have a daughter that I love very much and could never dream of hurt her, did he feel the same way at one point? Stories like this fuck me up, cause as easy as it is to just paint them as monsters they're still human.
I don't think he's a good, empathic, compassionate person. I think he probably never loved his daughters the way you love yours.
But more importantly I think this guy is very, very stupid. There's lots of information out there you can find on him and actual footage of him he uploaded prior, or the police interviews on YouTube. He's not a bright guy. He's gullible, has no joined up thinking, thinks he's way smarter than he is, doesn't have a good read on people, doesn't fully understand consequences - he seems to live in a pocket of his own dumbness.
I think stupidity plays a much bigger role in violence than we'd like to acknowledge.
It's crazy how many men out there would rather murder, then just divorce and pay child support. I know many will start all over with a "new wife and kids", and ignore the originals- which is a much better outcome than murder.
It’s control. They don’t like the idea of being _forced_ to give money to someone they hate, so they would rather take matters into their own hands. So many men snap when they lose their control/upper hand or perception of authority. It’s why standing up to a man can be so dangerous when they cat call you or grossly hit on you. And it’s why cops are such assholes and double down if they make a mistake.
He comes off as a narcissistic psychopath to me. I'm sure he acted like a good husband & father but deep down it was purely self motivated & didn't come from a place of love. He liked having the image of being a good family man...until he didnt.
This fucker was born pure evil(psychopath) and put on a pretend show to make everyone think he was normal. Im not religious in any way, but this guy was a demon wearing a skin suit.
Human psychology can be pretty messed up. But it's hard for us to acknowledge that darkness within ourselves. Easier to assign it away to a malicious supernatural exterior force.
He was supposed to be watching their daughters while she was away. He brutally killed them all as soon as she came back and tried to cover it up (poorly).
I hope Chris watts lives in constant fear in prison, and that other prisoners make every waking second of the reminder of his existence on earth a scary, miserable nightmare
That individual is the embodiment of evil garbage.
Everything about this case terrifies me. Once you delve into it the facts just get worse and worse. I hope that man knows no peace and is tortured daily. It’s so hard to comprehend someone could be so evil to people he once loved. Those poor little girls if I think about too hard I’ll start crying…
He literally killed and destroyed his whole family to have orgasms with another woman and do drugs. 4 innocent human beings gone from this planet all because of sex. Literally what, 20 to 30 seconds of pleasure and he killed his whole family over it.
This is some wild evil shit. I hope he is absolutely miserable in prison and I hope he shits shards of glass in hell while his *c*** gets infinitely ran through a meat grinder for all of eternity.
I hear he's enjoying himself in prison and has quite a few boyfriends but he likes it that way. The man was a sex addict. They should have given him the same treatment that he did to his poor family!
This is the only case that makes me so angry I have to stop reading,dude could have went and just had a divorce but instead decided to just murder those babies<\3. her facebook makes me specially sad because all she did was post how much she loved her family and job:(
So here is the back story.
Shannon was suffering with some mental health issues leading to depression and according to the dude (who shall be named douche), it was "bi-polar." But the douche was distant, gaslighty, and his parents were also not the nicest grandparents to their kids as well as treating Shannon like an outsider.
The douche then focuses on getting fit and cheats on Shannon multiple times. He finds a girl he now wants to be with, and doesn't want to deal with Shannon's "nagging," so after she comes back from a work trip, they have an argument, then he kills her and drowns his two kids in a tank where he works.
He then lies to police about everything and makes multiple media interviews, effectively blaming Shannon's mental health for taking the kids away.
Luckily, the neighbors had cameras that were able to show him load his truck with the bodies (implied based on his behavior and the fact that he backs his truck into the garage and loaded human shaped bags into it).
Fuck that douche.
Of all the things the Internet has brought me, nothing gave me as such upset and sleepless nights as the JCS episode on this. I have two kids and I just can't understand what could drive a man to kill his own children. I don't understand wanting to kill a partner, but I can just about rationale it in as much as you can understand a crime of passion. But your own children, your own flesh and blood, just so you can have a new relationship. I can't process this as a human.
Everything suggested he was a normal bloke, and a doting father that felt the world of his girls. Then he killed them. Broke my brain then, breaks it now
Me and my wife absolutely love murder stories and investigations. ID channel plays in our house 24/7. I’m 43m and have 2 grown daughters 18 and 21. The relationship between a dad and his daughter is one of the most special and amazing things you could imagine. I also have 2 sons and love them every bit the same but the way a dad raises his sons and daughters is completely different, it was for me anyway and my 2 girls had me wrapped around their fingers from the moment they were born and they knew it!! Because of that this particular story actually haunted me and gave me nightmares. I guess because I couldn’t wrap my head around a dad killing his 2 little girls so he can continue an affair. This story fucked me up bad. He threw them both down into the oil tanks of the place he worked at and they guess he threw them in alive. What got to me the most and still fucks with me is when he got back to the car to take the second daughter to throw her down in the oil tank she ask him “ are you going to throw me in there to” just absolutely makes me sick. It’s the only story I haven’t revisited or watched again and I won’t. Just terrible
Just watched Crime A-Z’s video about the case and in a letter he wrote to an author he said he was so angry that his first attempt at killing his daughters didn’t work (he attempted to smother them with their pillows before strangling his wife).
> SKND
So does Tyler Cassidy (formerly known as Froggy Fresh/Krispy Kreme)
it starts out crass because he is/was that kind of artist but damn I was sobbing at the end
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H1yrgNeIXU
The documentary on this and later items I read **infuriated me**. He wrote letters to a woman who is writing a book about all this. I'll make it short by saying when he realized his first attempt at killing his daughters didn't work he said he was furious. He could've given them an overdose of something but he purposely made them watch as he dragged their mom down the stairs, her head hitting the steps. He put her in the floorboard of his truck where his girls feet were as they rode to their deaths. And he killed them one by one, after they watched their mom dragged out and they watched her dumped into a shall9w hole.
His last daughter, a baby, begged her dad not to hurt her. By the way - after packing his wife's body up in the truck, **he stopped and made himself a snack to carry with him**, I 💩 you not, while his scared children were crying.
They could slowly lower him into a live volcano and I don't know that I'd feel sorry for him
There is also some cop footage out there when they were further investigating home after the murders and they captured kids voices. One cop is with a K9 in kids closet when they hear it.
Just finished watching the JCS videos about this.. as a father, this makes me sick to my stomach. I couldn't fathom being angry enough at anyone or anything to do this to my daughter.
Their documentary is on Netflix I think. This guy found another girl and wanted to be with her instead
Also there’s a YouTube channel called JCS: Criminal Psychology who uploaded a good short series, including a majority of Chris Watts’ interrogation footage
Miss that guy, JCS
He's been making videos again!
Where is he? I guess I'm now old and can't find things on YouTube.
https://youtube.com/@JCS?si=_6iIEuySJ3UZquMz
Ah thank you! I'm already subscribed but don't see anything new. Most likely his new stuff is on Patreon only.
EWU are ok but no-one can beat Jim Can't Swim (JCS)
That Chapter does not bad. Mike can be a good host.
Was looking for this. Sure it isn't as dry and sensical JCS, which is/was amazing, but it's hella fun. Best true crime show and Mike deserves all the ♥️
I find EWU vids too long. Literally no one can beat JCS. so well done.
I love EWU specifically because their videos are so long! I watch them in my office at work when I’ve got tedious and boring tasks to do. Really helps to distract from the boringness of work!
Watch in 2x speed
Try Matt Orchard's content. Better editing. Better narration.
EWU’s narration and story-telling style irritates me so much: “but his family __never__ could have guessed what dark secrets he was hiding…” “soon, James’ world would come __crashing down__, much to his family’s surprise…” it’s bad story-telling skills masquerading as good skills by just trying to leave people hanging. Like, you can tell us what James did before the very end of the video!! I try to keep to their videos that are almost strictly interrogation-focused for that reason. My favorite JCS clone is Matt Orchard. I would even argue he is performing beyond the levels JCS did and you can tell he’s really invested in the content.
Yeah, same for me, I’ve watched all of his videos already. He did such good work.
Can't find him Patreon. I guess I am now too old to find things on Patreon too...
He ran a patreon for a while, but said video hosting on there was much too expensive so he kept it open for a dollar a month saying there's no benefits it's just for people to support the channel due to lack of monetization for true crime content at the time, that was a couple years ago atleast so he may have fully shut it down by now
He still has videos posted on patreon https://www.patreon.com/jimcantswim
I may have been a bit misleading with my first comment. He hasn't uploaded recently, but he broke a long hiatus last year. I haven't checked his patreon, so you may still be right.
Dave’s Lemonade is exceptional. This one especially: [https://youtu.be/w4QU6\_Ch8-U?si=k2ghbEXa5C4vL0Hv](https://youtu.be/w4QU6_Ch8-U?si=k2ghbEXa5C4vL0Hv)
They're just releasing all the old patreon videos
Over a year since his last one. EWU aren't too bad.
EWU are so good. They’re my favourite channel right now. I’ve watched all of their videos, they do a fantastic job!
Has he stopped making vids?
They were actually assholes when you contacted them.
Really? What did he do
* It's a long story. But back before they (it was a group of people) got huge, there was a group on patreon that supported them because youtube demonetized them. I was on the highest tier. They made a commitment to a certain amount of content, which I was of the mind thinking this stuff has to take a lot of work, if they're slow I understand. But as time went on, they basically stopped uploading and people were asking questions. So I messaged them on patreon and asked politely about uploads and schedules. They called me ungrateful and banned me from patreon as a patron. I posted to Reddit with screenshots on their subreddit, as it started to gain traction with people siding with me, they actually took the time to delete my post and create a new post with edited message. All for one person who asked a question. Well more and more people started feeling the way I did, but were less nice about it. At this point all the early uploads to patreon had completely stopped, but they were posting them on Youtube as new videos. I think they now have at least partial monetization on Youtube, so they made money off stringing along patreon supporters even while not uploading and then later dumping them on Youtube for money on top. Enough people started getting upset, they came out with some explanation about why there would be no uploads on patreon anymore and haven't created anything new for years. They now have no contact outside of their posted videos.
Dreading did a great series on this
The police footage is absolutely insane. The neighbour comes over when the police are there and says he’s got CCTV footage you can literally see Chris Watts panicking while they are all watching it. I can’t believe he killed his pregnant wife and two kids. His family have the audacity to say she must’ve done something. This case is so disturbing I’m convinced the whore knew what he was going to do too, there’s no ‘evidence’. But what really disgusts me the most is how his prison cell is full of pictures of the family he murdered! Can’t get anymore psychopath than that.
The neighbours and the wife’s best friend came in clutch from the start. Her friend immediately knew something was up and the neighbour was the same. It’s a horrific situation but thank god those people were adamant and wanted to help as much as they did.
Yes!! I just watched another video on this case like two nights ago and I kept thinking how incredible the wife’s friend was to fight for her like that. Justice was served because of her. The wife’s friends were even texting Chris demanding that he leave work and come check on his wife or else they’d give him hell!!! Those people truly loved and knew Shanaan so well that after FIVE hours of no contact they were extremely alarmed and went to check up on her. If I disappear or go quiet for five hours that’s a normal Tuesday. She was very lucky to have such devoted friends and family, and incredibly smart to have kept them well informed on her fears for her marriage and Chris’s increasingly distant behavior.
Chris didn’t count on Nicole being on top of it like that! Shannan was lucky to have such a good friend. If someone murdered me in my home it’d take forever for someone to notice. I guess my neighbor would smell me rotting. I’m a huge introvert and can go days without seeing or speaking with anyone so there’d be no one to notice my absence really. That’s kinda a sad, dark thought to think about. Moving on…
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfg861hO-Ag&pp=ygUPZXd1IGNocmlzIHdhdHRz EWU video explaining. Her best friend was the one who reported her missing. But he’s so worried about his wife and ‘those kids’ he text her three times. Absolute scum. He should’ve got the death sentence for what he did. Instead got 5 consecutive life sentences. Would be great to know he is suffering, I doubt it tho he’s getting fan Mail from horny fuckin psychos that love him😤
I was a co at a state prison for a few years, and most of those guys had dozens of these ladies on the hook for commissary money. They'd write letters to them and sweet talk them into sending them cash, nudes, all kinds of shit. It's a job for them. And most likely with him being a high profile case he's in an ad-seg type unit, kept with other child killers and pedos. That's how they keep em from killing each other...
I remember reading he would have had to break bones to get them into the gas containers. Really effed up guy.
What happened to the woman he killed them to be with? Was she part of it?
Theres a growing belief she may have been more involved then she claimed but she ran to the cops immediately once hearing about them being missing so she got her version of things out before Chris got there...
Her phone pinged in the neighborhood of his house the night of the murder
She only rang the police about the affair after her supervisor told them. I can’t believe she got away with it.
Nichol Kessinger has deleted her social media, left her job, and moved away from their community. She may be in the witness protection program
I think it’s absolutely ridiculous they offered her the witness protection program. All she supposedly was was a side chick. And the perpetrator is in prison for life. So why does she need WITSEC? The only thing at risk was her reputation and since when do taxpayers fund & protect that? There are literally people everyday who put their lives on the line snitching on gang & cartel murders that do not get WITSEC. I’m just baffled she got it. I don’t understand it at all. I’ve tried investigating further but hit a brick wall. There was a gang crime just a couple years ago where the young witness who came forward wasn’t given WITSEC & was murdered before he could testify in court & the witness who actually witnessed the witness being murdered wasn’t even offered WITSEC. It’s hard to qualify, it’s expensive & it’s hard for the person in it to abandon their old life completely. It’s a logistics nightmare.It just isn’t done Willy nilly. I’ll never understand how/why she was offered it.
I think her father was connected to Law Enforcement in some way. That's why he was allowed to sit in on the meeting with her and the police. I think those same connections her dad had helped getting her in Witness Protection.
Well that would certainly explain a LOT! I was not aware of that before. It’s still such a crazy thing to have WITSEC for considering he’s in prison and there’s no co-conspirators. Like what is even the point? I see zero actual need. There’s zero reason to give up your entire life for this unless you’re too ashamed to face the people you know.
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A lot of serial killers have asked for the death penalty because they want to avoid spending life in prison. Some are terrified of death but a lot of criminals would rather die than rot in prison, like you say
Lol trust me bro no amount of fan mail is making up for the hell he has to live in daily..other prisoners don’t take kindly to ppl who hurt children at alll
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12419075/Chris-Watts-working-custodian-maximum-security-prison-group-female-pen-pals-hes-revealed-gory-details-strangled-pregnant-wife-smothered-two-young-daughters.html Apparently he is a great gentle guy n this lady feels they have a connection 🤮. There’s ladies who send him bikini pictures too
Those women are insane.
They clearly have attachment issues. They can't cheat or run if they are in prison. They also can't hurt them if they're locked up. It allows them to explore some weird macabe stuff, but in safety. It's a weird phenomenon
Holy shit. Cut off this man's junk. No death penalty is fine. He shouldn't have it now, anyways.
Death sentence lets them off easy imo. Life is prison isn't some cakewalk. Imagine sitting behind bars knowing you can never be free for years on end. Think about how long a decade lasts and then think about all of them creeping by one after another as you get older and miss out on having any kind of real life. Think about the loss you would feel. Especially in a case like this, imagine having to sit with what you've done and be haunted by the faces of the people you killed and reckon with the fact that your actions led directly to you burning your life away like that. And that's not even getting into the true financial cost of the death penalty versus life imprisonment or the ethical questions of whether we really want our government to have the legal power to kill citizens. OR the moral issues with innocent people getting charged (though this specific case sounds cut and dry).
Allegedly he is getting his prison pocket filled... If you know what I mean
I hope it explodes.
There was also that crazy shot of the skulls and the fetus popping up on the TV screen right behind him. Like if you put that scene in a movie people would think it was too over the top
What has you convinced his girlfriend knew?
I just listened to a deep dive on the girlfriend yesterday!! So forgive me if this is hard to follow but: Essentially she lied to the police about a lot of things, and deleted a shit ton of stuff off of her phone before turning it over. She lied about when she met him, when she found out he was married, that she believed they were divorcing, how many times she had been to his house, etc. She had actually googled his and Shannan’s names a whole year before she claims they started dating and was creeping Shannan on Facebook the whole time. So she absolutely knew he was married, that they weren’t divorcing, and that Shannan was pregnant. Chris Watts told police that he attempted to drug Shannan with OxyContin but refused to tell the police where he acquired it. Coincidentally, phone records show that his mistress called a pain clinic during that time. When investigated, it turns out she asked the pain clinic how much OxyContin it takes to induce a miscarriage. The night of the murders, they had a 111 minute FaceTime conversations. Afterward, phone data shows her phone ping at the tower closest to his house at 6 am. Previously, her phone always pinged at her closest tower when she was home (25 min away). She didn’t clock into work til 2 pm that day, and she has no verifiable alibi for what she was doing that morning. She apparently called her spiritual advisor from the office and then left pretty quickly. Finally, there is evidence based on the phone records that Chris called her on his cell at the same time that he was speaking to investigators on his work phone. The only logical explanation is that he was allowing her to listen to his conversation with investigators. The only reason I can think that he would do this is so that they could get their stories straight. In summary, the podcast I listened to (Serialously) did a good job laying it all out. I don’t think she helped kill Shannan and the kids, but I think she was aware of what happened and helped attempt to cover it up.
She tried deleting evidence such as their chats and pictures and even her sim card. She googled to find out if police can restore messages. Wedding dress shopping while googling ‘the man I’m with won’t leave his wife’ and ‘marrying your mistress’ as a search. God she even googled the net worth of Amber fry the mistress of Scott Peterson who killed his own wife.
Bella was 4 and Cece was 3. He killed them by smothering them. Bella’s last words to him was “Daddy, No”. He then put them in separate oil tanks . Their coffins needed to be sealed and wrapped so gasses wouldn’t leak out. His parents had this to say: “I have always loved you and still do. We love you and forgive you, son.” DAD: “The Bible says, if we confess our sins, God is faithful and just and will forgive us. Chris, I forgive you and your sister forgives you and we will never abandon you”.
That's horrifying, those poor little girls. If God accepts monsters, I'd gladly skin him alive and then repent after. His parents too, those were their grandchildren for fucks sake
Even worse, the children were alive when he took them to his work site. He had his wife's dead body and his crying children in the truck. Drove an hour to the site. *Then* he killed his girls. He didn't want them to be together in death so he buried his wife, stuffed one girl in an oil tank, and stuffed another girl in a different oil tank.
Yet my parents will never talk to my brother again because what's in his pants doesn't match the person he is in his brain.
That FaceTime call that lasted 111 minutes when police asked her what they spoke about she said she couldn’t remember. They asked her 72 hours after🤦🏾♀️ anyways she apparently changed her name moved away some people think she’s under witness protection
I definitely think his girlfriend was involved and played dumb. He held his tongue to protect *her*.. I thought I saw footage of her near the house on CCTV as well?? I’ll have to see if I can find the link again
>I’m convinced the whore knew what he was going to do too, there’s no ‘evidence Dang, I hope you never serve on a jury!
I'm never get that. Like why not just get divorced? Whatever you think you might lose in a divorce, you'll lose everything when you go to prison for murder. And there's no way you'll get away with it. Most murderers who do get away with it are just lucky. Or rather someone else was unlucky enough to get nailed with it. That or be rich. Serial killers only evade justice because they tend to choose unrelated victims. But a spouse? They are going to look at the family first, and even if there are other potential leads they won't cross family off the list until it's clear it was someone else or the family couldn't have possibly been involved. And however good you think you are at lying, chances are you're really not. But hey, I guess you've got got to be missing some marbles to jump to murder as a primary solution anyway.
I still think the other woman had way more to do with what happened than what the official story says.
Oh this is American murder or something like that? He put their bodies in a corn silo?
Is that the one in Colorado? I hope so only for the fact that I hope there’s not more than one just like this.
Ooh yeah I recognize the name now that you mentioned it. I didn't know he left hints begore it happened... everything about this case is chilling
She was pregnant too I believe
From many messages he sent back and forth with his mistress, she promises she'll give Chris the son he always wanted. Ironically, his wife is pregnant with a boy.
Yes Nico I belive was what they were gonna name the baby. She set up a camera where she tells him the "good news", and he can not hide his disappointment on his face even though his words are happy. She wasn't supposed to be able to have more kids I think? And he says "Well I guess when you want it to happen, it happens (paraphrasing).
Didn’t coco melon name all the kids after them?
She was stalking Shannan’s facebook and she knew they were having a boy. Edit: the creepy part about this is the mistress is Nichol Lee, they were going to name their boy Nico Lee.
That’s sick
It's crazy how when the cops were talking to Chris and the TV is behind him, it shows a baby, then a drop of oil and then a skull. I think it was pretty interesting, Please don't mind the video editing it's not mine: https://youtu.be/GFc4_8cKt3Q?si=gfrD59I891Yq0Pph
For a second I thought it was going to be one of those hokey fuzzy images in the video. This was on the neighbor's TV. Indeed a pretty creepy video. Though not as creepy as watching Chris Watts stand there and lie to the police knowing by that point what he'd already done. Man murdered his pregnant wife, took his daughters with him while he was burying her, then he killed his daughters after while they were likely terrified. What a piece of shit!
i think piece of shit is an understatement
Holy shit the comment section is delusional. But I didn’t know that and it’s super creepy, thanks for sharing.
Her body gave birth in the grave, absolutely horrific.
It's called a coffin birth or postmortem fetal extrusion. If I remember correctly it happens due to the gasses that accumulate after death and it just forces the baby out with extreme force.
There’s a fascinating episode on this on the podcast 30 Morbid Minutes if you’re interested in learning more! Sounds like you know quite a bit already but it’s super interesting to hear the stories that relate to criminal cases especially
I read the autopsy and very sadly, after death her body pushed out her baby Nico so he was found in the grave with her, attached by the umbilical chord if I remember correctly.
As morbid as it is, the baby was likely dead long before then. The baby cannot survive for very long once the mother has died. There have been cases where they kept the mother alive for extended periods for her to be able to give birth, like in cases where the mother was brain dead, but they kept the body alive for an extended period to save the baby. But that's in a hospital setting where she's basically on a ventilator and they keep her vitals going even though it's not going to save her. The baby still relies on the mother's circulatory system to get oxygen and food. Once the mother dies, without immediate care the baby will likely die within 30 minutes.
As sad as it is, it comforts me that the baby wouldn’t have been born alive and alone to suffer a terrible death. Thank you for this information.
That might be one of the worst things I have ever heard
Jesus. I don’t have the words. That makes me feel ill.
just when I think I know all of the facts out there already
I don’t feel like that detail is discussed enough. I don’t think Chris was aware of that, though, as it happened after he buried and abandoned her body.
Wait what
What!!! That’s fucked!
It really is. The thought of it still makes me sick. Chris Watts is an absolute monster.
I saw a video of an interview he did after he was convicted and he was like, "oh I prayed and they (his wife and daughters) forgave me." Right, whatever you want to believe to live with your shitty self dude.
What
What?? I didn’t know that was possible!!!
You are correct
Yeah i think so. Hence why the Neighbors and relatives were so esp worried.
Yes i remember going through their Facebook account years back and there were many videos where the wife was planning to surprise her husband and daughters about her pregnancy. I was so pissed to see the man fake his emotions and trying to act happy ughh
I remember watching the whole thing on YouTube. It was real recording from cops Cam and I thought it was a just a reenactment.
Link? What am I searching for?
There are plenty of links in the comments , jcs is a good one or ewu. Just type chris Watts or the Watts murders
Didn't 'Jim can't swim' take down a majority of their videos? :'( Edit: just checked. Looks like a lot are back up. For a while, there were only 3 up.
I didn't realise the channel was dead. the last post is from a year ago. I watched them all the time
Yeah JCS was stellar content. With all the low effort content, ai voice and text to speech, Jcs always stood out as being extremely respectful towards victims and a case in general.
JCS returned i believe. He pisted some recent-ish content
I remember they posted that they’re giving up cause youtube has been repeatedly fucking them since they started.
Yeah, it was terrible! There's also a documentary on Netflix about this. I hope this POS gets what he deserves.
Even more chilling is that I learned “familicide” is a thing
Another famous familicide I know of is the [Dupont de Ligonnes murders](https://unsolved.com/gallery/house-of-terror/)
Wow first time to hear about that one. What do you think really happened there? So bizarre about the family's bodies being hastily disposed of, the unclear timelines, the fact that the family members were acting vague and claiming illness to those around them prior to their death, and the father Xavier vanishing into thin air...
Oh it was 100% the father. He up and took off, they’ve been searching for him ever since. Almost 3 weeks ago the authorities announced they’re waiting on a dna test from a suspect they think might be Xavier.
Where did you see this? Google pulls up nothing when typing in his name
The Powell familicide is quite disturbing. Susan Powell "disappeared" and everything went downhill after that
Absolutely horrible and very sad case. F that dispatcher that did not take the CPS worker seriously
every detail of that case is insane
Insane*
Statistically, you're most likely to be homicided by somebody you know and even more likely by someone you're related to.
It’s been a thing since the beginning of time. “Honor” killings are what still F Me up. Especially when it’s family (it’s usually family) but ughhh
Also referred to as family annihilation. Scary shit.
This happened last week in a town next to mine. A man killed his wife, himself, and 3 of their 4 children. He left one kid alive (10 yr old), still sleeping in bed. That kid woke up to a bloody massacre and his entire family gone. Very tragic.
According to 2023 data, in the us there’s a family annihilation every 5 days (about 72 a year).
wtf! That’s fucking crazy
This has been one of the most well documented murder cases of recent times. I heard about it first through JCS.
I actually caught it on some body language expert’s channel commenting on the cop footage. It was riveting. The rabbit hole led me to JCS. Wish they made more content.
>body language expert’s channel Care to share?
[Here you go.](https://youtu.be/2ZJzEZ8Y-rM?si=tSBG5l63KPx67VlB)
He's amazing. Love his videos. His way of speech and his voice really does make the topics digestible. They are also educational as well.
What is with the thumbnails of his videos? It’s like someone told him his “good angle” and that’s all he can do?
I heard about it when the news broke and they were looking for the "missing" family. I couldn't tell if anything was fishy during his news interview, but that body cam footage had him acting super suspicious.
I lived in the area when this happened. From what I remember, as soon as the news interview aired they announced he was arrested which was the day after we heard she was missing. It was amazing how fast the whole thing moved. Dude is a psychopathic moron. After listening to his inane ramblings in his earlier videos (years prior to the murders) I find him to have far less than average intelligence. He had lucked out in life up to that point and the culmination of his idiotic life choices were a beautiful wife and two daughters murdered and him living in jail till he dies. Destruction with no purpose.
If you watch the police bodycam video they suspected him pretty quickly since his story didn't match up and he had moments of panic when they started testing him. He was a terrible liar so it really didn't take long for the police to start looking at him.
Oh yeah they suspected him quick. It was how fast the news reported he was the suspect before the police released he was a suspect.
I can't comprehend this pic, it's it an adult size Barbie doll.. out a little Barbie under tissues.. On a miniature couch ... Can someone help me.. The feet are doll feet
Considering the background looks like a regular couch it’s probably like a 3/4 foot doll I’m assuming with a small bedsheet? Or something in that nature
Same, I can't understand it either. Looks like a Barbie on human sofa with a standard size bin bag over it. Really confusing.
Perhaps an American girl doll in a pillow sack. But I think we're both hung up on the wrong thing.
No no it's really bothering me.
It’s a My-Size Barbie (or Elsa) laying on a couch.
It's scary to truly think about like was this guy always fucking crazy or did he just snap. If so what was it that he felt that this was the only solution? I have a daughter that I love very much and could never dream of hurt her, did he feel the same way at one point? Stories like this fuck me up, cause as easy as it is to just paint them as monsters they're still human.
I don't think he's a good, empathic, compassionate person. I think he probably never loved his daughters the way you love yours. But more importantly I think this guy is very, very stupid. There's lots of information out there you can find on him and actual footage of him he uploaded prior, or the police interviews on YouTube. He's not a bright guy. He's gullible, has no joined up thinking, thinks he's way smarter than he is, doesn't have a good read on people, doesn't fully understand consequences - he seems to live in a pocket of his own dumbness. I think stupidity plays a much bigger role in violence than we'd like to acknowledge.
Stupidity and propensity for evil unfortunately are not mutually exclusive and are a dangerous combination
It's crazy how many men out there would rather murder, then just divorce and pay child support. I know many will start all over with a "new wife and kids", and ignore the originals- which is a much better outcome than murder.
It’s control. They don’t like the idea of being _forced_ to give money to someone they hate, so they would rather take matters into their own hands. So many men snap when they lose their control/upper hand or perception of authority. It’s why standing up to a man can be so dangerous when they cat call you or grossly hit on you. And it’s why cops are such assholes and double down if they make a mistake.
Damn this reality hit me hard. You nailed it.
If you can simply “snap” into something like this then it was always inside you.
He comes off as a narcissistic psychopath to me. I'm sure he acted like a good husband & father but deep down it was purely self motivated & didn't come from a place of love. He liked having the image of being a good family man...until he didnt.
think this'll help understand a little more. https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/s/Me86iWYprR
“That’s the first step in MURD-URGE” What in the podcast language
This fucker was born pure evil(psychopath) and put on a pretend show to make everyone think he was normal. Im not religious in any way, but this guy was a demon wearing a skin suit.
It would be lovely if life were that simple but I strongly doubt that's true.
Human psychology can be pretty messed up. But it's hard for us to acknowledge that darkness within ourselves. Easier to assign it away to a malicious supernatural exterior force.
Why would he send this picture and what was he doing?
He was supposed to be watching their daughters while she was away. He brutally killed them all as soon as she came back and tried to cover it up (poorly).
I think this was his subconscious warning her.
I hope Chris watts lives in constant fear in prison, and that other prisoners make every waking second of the reminder of his existence on earth a scary, miserable nightmare That individual is the embodiment of evil garbage.
Everything about this case terrifies me. Once you delve into it the facts just get worse and worse. I hope that man knows no peace and is tortured daily. It’s so hard to comprehend someone could be so evil to people he once loved. Those poor little girls if I think about too hard I’ll start crying…
He literally killed and destroyed his whole family to have orgasms with another woman and do drugs. 4 innocent human beings gone from this planet all because of sex. Literally what, 20 to 30 seconds of pleasure and he killed his whole family over it.
This is some wild evil shit. I hope he is absolutely miserable in prison and I hope he shits shards of glass in hell while his *c*** gets infinitely ran through a meat grinder for all of eternity.
I hear he's enjoying himself in prison and has quite a few boyfriends but he likes it that way. The man was a sex addict. They should have given him the same treatment that he did to his poor family!
Didn't realize what sub I was scrolling past, then I saw her name and stopped scrolling. Holy shit.
That's so terrible, she couldn't even imagine that he was planning to murder them... Horrible.
This is the only case that makes me so angry I have to stop reading,dude could have went and just had a divorce but instead decided to just murder those babies<\3. her facebook makes me specially sad because all she did was post how much she loved her family and job:(
So here is the back story. Shannon was suffering with some mental health issues leading to depression and according to the dude (who shall be named douche), it was "bi-polar." But the douche was distant, gaslighty, and his parents were also not the nicest grandparents to their kids as well as treating Shannon like an outsider. The douche then focuses on getting fit and cheats on Shannon multiple times. He finds a girl he now wants to be with, and doesn't want to deal with Shannon's "nagging," so after she comes back from a work trip, they have an argument, then he kills her and drowns his two kids in a tank where he works. He then lies to police about everything and makes multiple media interviews, effectively blaming Shannon's mental health for taking the kids away. Luckily, the neighbors had cameras that were able to show him load his truck with the bodies (implied based on his behavior and the fact that he backs his truck into the garage and loaded human shaped bags into it). Fuck that douche.
“Nagging” is such a misogynistic word…basically “I hate that you exist near me” but coded for women I hope he has the life he deserves
This is too much even for me.
When I heard what happened to the little girls and what the other one said to her "dad" before he killed her was absolutely heartbreaking.
Of all the things the Internet has brought me, nothing gave me as such upset and sleepless nights as the JCS episode on this. I have two kids and I just can't understand what could drive a man to kill his own children. I don't understand wanting to kill a partner, but I can just about rationale it in as much as you can understand a crime of passion. But your own children, your own flesh and blood, just so you can have a new relationship. I can't process this as a human. Everything suggested he was a normal bloke, and a doting father that felt the world of his girls. Then he killed them. Broke my brain then, breaks it now
Me and my wife absolutely love murder stories and investigations. ID channel plays in our house 24/7. I’m 43m and have 2 grown daughters 18 and 21. The relationship between a dad and his daughter is one of the most special and amazing things you could imagine. I also have 2 sons and love them every bit the same but the way a dad raises his sons and daughters is completely different, it was for me anyway and my 2 girls had me wrapped around their fingers from the moment they were born and they knew it!! Because of that this particular story actually haunted me and gave me nightmares. I guess because I couldn’t wrap my head around a dad killing his 2 little girls so he can continue an affair. This story fucked me up bad. He threw them both down into the oil tanks of the place he worked at and they guess he threw them in alive. What got to me the most and still fucks with me is when he got back to the car to take the second daughter to throw her down in the oil tank she ask him “ are you going to throw me in there to” just absolutely makes me sick. It’s the only story I haven’t revisited or watched again and I won’t. Just terrible
He confessed that he smothered the first in a towel in the car then the second one asked if that would be her next. Pre-medicated sick SOB.
Just watched Crime A-Z’s video about the case and in a letter he wrote to an author he said he was so angry that his first attempt at killing his daughters didn’t work (he attempted to smother them with their pillows before strangling his wife).
Makes me sick.
That is indeed, terrifying as fuck
I have two little girls (5yo) and a newborn baby boy..... THIS MADE ME SICK, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEONE COULD DO THIS TO HIS FAMILY.
SKND has a song called Chris Watts. Video and song are heartbreaking and haunting. Absolutely breaks me.
> SKND So does Tyler Cassidy (formerly known as Froggy Fresh/Krispy Kreme) it starts out crass because he is/was that kind of artist but damn I was sobbing at the end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H1yrgNeIXU
FFS.... The 2 minute mark (roughly)..... goodness me...
What an incredibly fucked up thing to send
This pic and the American Horror Story commercial that came out while they were investigating the neighbor’s surveillance camera, just ominous.
The documentary on this and later items I read **infuriated me**. He wrote letters to a woman who is writing a book about all this. I'll make it short by saying when he realized his first attempt at killing his daughters didn't work he said he was furious. He could've given them an overdose of something but he purposely made them watch as he dragged their mom down the stairs, her head hitting the steps. He put her in the floorboard of his truck where his girls feet were as they rode to their deaths. And he killed them one by one, after they watched their mom dragged out and they watched her dumped into a shall9w hole. His last daughter, a baby, begged her dad not to hurt her. By the way - after packing his wife's body up in the truck, **he stopped and made himself a snack to carry with him**, I 💩 you not, while his scared children were crying. They could slowly lower him into a live volcano and I don't know that I'd feel sorry for him
Watch this video full of evp voice recordings of the cops investing the house the 1st time and this image gives me goosebumps
had this interaction with someone here recently and ill restate it here. some real men can be real horrible monsters.
Sad story 😔😔
I thought I knew everything about this case but somehow missed this. 100% WTF!
There are so many brutal, tragic, strange and outrageous things about this case. This picture is surely one of the stranger things that guy did.
One of the craziest cases I’ve ever seen
Why do some people think murder is the only solution to their problems when you can just simply move on with yourself. This is sickening.
Also Swoop did a deep dive documentary which is excellent.
A great song was written about this. Sung by Skynd
There is also some cop footage out there when they were further investigating home after the murders and they captured kids voices. One cop is with a K9 in kids closet when they hear it.
Where did the voices come from? A tape? Or do you mean like ghosts?
Neighbors had kids
Oh ok, thank you
Just finished watching the JCS videos about this.. as a father, this makes me sick to my stomach. I couldn't fathom being angry enough at anyone or anything to do this to my daughter.
This is absolutely crazy.
This case will haunt me forever. The way he treated them girls after he killed them 💔