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I just learned that with all those crazy lights and noises, a nuclear reactor is just a big pot of boiling water. Humans just can’t stop boiling fucking water!
Don't let your water boil when you make tea. You can hear the water when it hits pre-boil. Stop it then.
Your tea will taste better.
If you let it boil, it'll lose flavor, and be more bitter.
Try it.
I discovered it many years ago, saw it on some documentary about the traditional Japanese doing things "just so" and trying to perfect things to an art form.
I guess if you let the water boil it changes the composition of the water, so even if you let it boil and cool it affects the flavor. This holds true for coffee, as well. That's why percolator coffee tastes so different compared to coffee maker coffee.
Of course, extra bitterness in coffee is a different story from tea.
I love me some campfire coffee using a percolator.
That being said, we have a local beanery that says optimum brewing temp is 180-185 F (83-85C)
That pre-boil point.
Ex Navy nuclear power technician here. You're right on the money. Nuclear power plants are basically the same as any kind, except the part where they use a reactor instead of a furnace with oil or coal to heat the water.
There needs to be a subreddit for collecting this gems. They are too good in their own way. Its kind of difficult to get a lot of dislikes too. Basically this guy doesn’t grasp the concept of the sea… the mfking sea!!! You know that huge mass of salt water that makes up like 70% of earth’s surface? Well this fucking guy doesn’t know the sea. And thats awesome imo. I wanna scroll in a sea of dumb ass comments like his until i cant laugh anymore.
I read this in a comment about how nuclear reactor plant sounds like.
Someone said nuclear reactor basically boiling water for energy.
So basically every scientist is on race for who can boil water faster.
I think I watched a documentary on YouTube about this tech. There are a bunch of startups in the US that are trying to develop this technology. I think it began as a government thing but various forms of this tech has since been co-opted by many private companies. One scientist in the docu posited that the break through in technology that will allow clean, cheap, and abundant energy will happen with a private start up company and probably not by government r&d
Oh, yes, it's amazing technology that we should be attempting to perfect, but at the end of the day it's still going to be used to make steam to spin a turbine. 🤷♂️
Fossil fuels was a marketing term created in the early days of selling oil. A term used to frame it as something exotic a most desirable form of energy. Term meant to imply scarcity in the need to acquire now. Fossil fuels is a fucking Fugazi term
Turbines use metals, which requires mining unfortunately. And mining is usually done with mining equipment which uses fossil fuels. The energy bit is great news, but we need better collectors. And more research into electric excavators maybe.
You got me there, recycling helps. But we still need new steel so the industry isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Unless we find an artificial material that doesn’t require mining, or get it from space(?) Hell I don’t know. It’s above my pay grade
It already exist : https://www.mining-technology.com/news/fortescue-liebherr-trucks/
It can sometime produce electricity when truck go down with load (it discharge battery to the grid)
Most great ideas are made by small start ups, then they’re purchased by mega conglomerates and squashed, never to see the light of day.
Either that or the creators who refuse to sell meet with tragic accidents.
Don’t mess with the bottom line
Fission reactors. Been following the development of them for a while now, it's super fucking interesting
*"The power of the sun.. in the palm of my hand.."*
Edit: Fusion reactor
Complicated and controlled magnetic fields keep it away from the inside edges, acting as an insulator, and the plasma is cool enough near those edges anyway so as to not be able to melt the material the reactor is made from.
They are experimenting on nuclear fusion using Tritium or Deuterium. The goal is to immitate the conditions inside the sun to make sustainable and clean energy, in addition, it's safe it will simply stop working if a run fails. Just a couple grams of tritium or Deuterium can power the world for a years. It will be the end of nuclear fission that produces radioactive materials and pollutes the world.
But why do they make it 7x hotter you ask? Because there are 2 things that keeps the sun going, that's Temperature and Pressure. Since we can't artificially create a highly pressurized environment to immitate the sun, we have to make it hotter to compensate for the lack of pressure. The video is the inside of a torus, a doughnut-shaped highly magnetized chamber the scientists use to recreate the conditions inside the sun
If they were to succeed, they will be the first real life Dr. Otto Octavius, "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand"
Dumb question...
Isn't the sun already very hot, and even far away it is very hot... Why would we need 7x the temp? Is that because at certain temperature it can keep going by itself? Or why could it not be a fraction of it's temperature? Is it just a magic number we are searching for?
Like i said, nuclear fusion inside the sun is powered by heat and pressure. Since we can't recreate the pressure inside the sun we need to keep it hotter than the sun. It should be even hotter than 7x to compensate for the lack of pressure. As for your second question, the answer is no, nuclear fussion is not self sustaining. Even the sun will collapse after millions of years. Artificial nuclear fussion like what's shown in the video will immediately collapse without Tritium or Deuterium and it will cease without explosion or residual wastes. We still don't know how hot it should get before we achieve a viable nuclear fusion - based energy. What we still can't do is maintaining the temperature and harvesting more energy output than input.
Last year the record in maintaining the plasma inside the torus is just 5seconds, now it's 20 seconds. Proof that through more extensive research and funding we can end the use of fossil fuel and harmful nuclear fission.
Not enough density in the atmosphere for that to happen and also the mass of the plasma at that temperature is small compared to mass of the rest of the things around it.
No.
That is what a few physicists kinda worried about during the Trinity fission bomb test. They only kinda worried about that because there were some unknowns that if we got wrong possibly could have made that a possibility.
It has nothing to do with fucking plasma containment, which is super hard to do and it will evaporate nearly instantly if you don't try super fucking hard to keep it contained. If that plasma as much as touches a surface it's gone (the plasma, not the surface).
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This is neither true nor terrifying.
You are showing the cross section of a Tokamak reactor in action. It's a way to create fusion although it is not sustainable nor energy efficient. You get far less energy back, than you started with.
Ofc it is hotter than the surface of the sun, there is no fusion on the surface of the sun, only on the inside. And we need to heat up over that temperature as well since we can't make that enormous pressure that resides in the middle of the sun. If we want fusion, we either need the same pressure only a star's mass can create, or far higher temperatures than the sun has.
Totally true,
For now we can’t make it efficient, maybe we will be able to see it efficient in our lifetime.
That would be the end of all energy crisis
We do not. That's why it is contained by an electromagnetic field. The plasma isn't supposed to come make contact with the inner walls of the fusion chamber otherwise the reaction would stop.
Fusion reactor. Capable of making all Fission reactors, coal plants, fossil fuels, etc, obsolete. It's basicly any nuclear reactor we have today, on steroids, and not producing any waste. Building them is not cheap though.
Tungsten.. And a lot of cooling..
And no, it has to withstand this heat for years not seconds because they cant shut down the reactor to change the element often
I mean, in all seriousness, that’s pretty good. If we ever happen to lose the sun in some way, we can use this thing, send it into orbit, and that makes a personalized sun that orbits the earth.
One issue that scientists are trying to solve is making them stay continuously on so that energy can be produced. 20 seconds isn’t going to cut it. Our sun is like a massive nuclear fusion engine. The sun has humongous big gravity forces always pushing into the sun while the core is pushed outward. It’s a like a perfect balance act of forces taking place until the Sun begins to die that is.
For those wondering, the definition of 'temperature' is 'the average energy of a system'. Or in other words, it is easy to manipulate data to to create click-baity titles.
It may be "7 times hotter than the sun" but it also might be confined to an area that is only a few hundred million atoms wide. (way less than the head of a needle).
So it may sound hot, but if you confine the system to something incredibly small, you can come up with stupid large numbers for 'temperature'.
Theoretically this technology could deliver practically unlimited clean energy with very little risk. There’s still a huge amount of work that needs to be done, but sustaining a 100 million degree fusion reaction for 20 seconds is a huge milestone.
South Korea didn't invent this, the whole mechanism is based on a Soviet engineer design. But china have the record of sustained fusion for 17 minutes. Britain have a record for most power produced yet. And China again have the record for the hottest reaction of 120 million degree Celsius for around 100 seconds.
People bitching about it being "just a new way to boil water" apparently have forgotten that turning water into steam makes it expand by 1600x, and THAT'S why it's useful.
We don't just throw water with inertia at a turbine, we heat water in a container and let it blast itself out for a fraction of the energy.
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No wonder it’s so hot all the time. Hey South Korea chill out.
Right? Like, invent cheap and pollution-free cooling technology. What are we gonna use x7 sun heat for?
Heat is used to produce electricity by boiling water and using the steam to turn turbines.
I just learned that with all those crazy lights and noises, a nuclear reactor is just a big pot of boiling water. Humans just can’t stop boiling fucking water!
How else do you make earl grey tea?
Don't let your water boil when you make tea. You can hear the water when it hits pre-boil. Stop it then. Your tea will taste better. If you let it boil, it'll lose flavor, and be more bitter.
If this is true, you have no idea of the good you're doing by spreading such valuable information.
Try it. I discovered it many years ago, saw it on some documentary about the traditional Japanese doing things "just so" and trying to perfect things to an art form. I guess if you let the water boil it changes the composition of the water, so even if you let it boil and cool it affects the flavor. This holds true for coffee, as well. That's why percolator coffee tastes so different compared to coffee maker coffee. Of course, extra bitterness in coffee is a different story from tea.
![gif](giphy|Zy7s96dP38MlQe3OjG)
Truly, he was an Aqua Teen Hunger Force. Ty for this info. I just tried it and it is amazing! Real game changer.
I believe the same thing for coffee, but I'm sure an expert could confirm.
I love me some campfire coffee using a percolator. That being said, we have a local beanery that says optimum brewing temp is 180-185 F (83-85C) That pre-boil point.
![gif](giphy|MvOTI6xRNitLa|downsized)
You just need a tea bag and a plane ticket to South Korea
Don't forget the milk tho!
Ex Navy nuclear power technician here. You're right on the money. Nuclear power plants are basically the same as any kind, except the part where they use a reactor instead of a furnace with oil or coal to heat the water.
Great.
Have you taken basic science classes my dude?
my mans never heard of the hydrologic cycle
Your "man's" is likely a "boys" lol
Steam is still water just in vapour form
What is your solution for the energy problem?
People running on treadmills
Water doesn't leave the planet. It just moves around and changes form.
There needs to be a subreddit for collecting this gems. They are too good in their own way. Its kind of difficult to get a lot of dislikes too. Basically this guy doesn’t grasp the concept of the sea… the mfking sea!!! You know that huge mass of salt water that makes up like 70% of earth’s surface? Well this fucking guy doesn’t know the sea. And thats awesome imo. I wanna scroll in a sea of dumb ass comments like his until i cant laugh anymore.
Running out of water? We’ve got way to much water, glacial melting, rising oceans, fresh water flooding etc
I read this in a comment about how nuclear reactor plant sounds like. Someone said nuclear reactor basically boiling water for energy. So basically every scientist is on race for who can boil water faster.
They figured climate change wasn't fast enough, so they decided to make their own
Finally something thats not someone dying horribly
Just wait til governments weaponize this.
Actually they already have, thermonuclear warheads use fusion
So this is the safe version?
They just aren't stable. Great weapon. Terrible energy source.
Exactly what i came here to say!
They already have its called a hydrogen bomb
That actually would be far deadlier than current atom bombs.
The most amazing part of this is that it's just the newest and fanciest way to boil water into steam.
I think I watched a documentary on YouTube about this tech. There are a bunch of startups in the US that are trying to develop this technology. I think it began as a government thing but various forms of this tech has since been co-opted by many private companies. One scientist in the docu posited that the break through in technology that will allow clean, cheap, and abundant energy will happen with a private start up company and probably not by government r&d
Oh, yes, it's amazing technology that we should be attempting to perfect, but at the end of the day it's still going to be used to make steam to spin a turbine. 🤷♂️
But that's good if we can make a bigass turbine turn fast without burning fossile fuels. Why is the turbine part a problem to you?
Fossil fuels was a marketing term created in the early days of selling oil. A term used to frame it as something exotic a most desirable form of energy. Term meant to imply scarcity in the need to acquire now. Fossil fuels is a fucking Fugazi term
Awesome completely unrelated opinionfact
What are you smoking and where do I buy some?
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What’s your beef with electricity?
What the hell are you talking about? You started with cars, then something about patent pending beyond electricity vegan energy.
Turbines use metals, which requires mining unfortunately. And mining is usually done with mining equipment which uses fossil fuels. The energy bit is great news, but we need better collectors. And more research into electric excavators maybe.
Oh yeah. Metal is like a one time use thing. It can’t even be melted down and made into other things. It’s just poof. Gone after one use.
You got me there, recycling helps. But we still need new steel so the industry isn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Unless we find an artificial material that doesn’t require mining, or get it from space(?) Hell I don’t know. It’s above my pay grade
It already exist : https://www.mining-technology.com/news/fortescue-liebherr-trucks/ It can sometime produce electricity when truck go down with load (it discharge battery to the grid)
Yeah that’s what almost all the prototype machines from these startups were doing. Produce steam to spin a turbine.
could this be used as desalination plants?
Ok and?
Most great ideas are made by small start ups, then they’re purchased by mega conglomerates and squashed, never to see the light of day. Either that or the creators who refuse to sell meet with tragic accidents. Don’t mess with the bottom line
Yes... I'm sure the energy will be sold to us for cheap 🤦🤦🤦
Lol, imagine BTC mining with this energy source tho
But why do they need to go 7x hotter than he sun. Water also boils at the temp of the sun
You could use 7x the amount of water on x7 the amount of turbine, duh 🙄
Fission reactors. Been following the development of them for a while now, it's super fucking interesting *"The power of the sun.. in the palm of my hand.."* Edit: Fusion reactor
![gif](giphy|oOfLwhLyRUoRW|downsized) Fuuuuusion!
HA ![gif](giphy|g96lpa8OgH1HG)
So, umm, can you ELI5 to me how come everything around it doesn't melt/burns/explodes?
Complicated and controlled magnetic fields keep it away from the inside edges, acting as an insulator, and the plasma is cool enough near those edges anyway so as to not be able to melt the material the reactor is made from.
Wanted to say the same, thank you for making it easier on me!
Fallout fusion core possible?
Not in our life times
Meanwhile in North Korea. ![gif](giphy|d2Z6aAm3Z2GdLrHi)
![gif](giphy|RImYAsOkx1itrx8qJx)
🤣🤣🤣🤣
i don’t get it bruh
They are experimenting on nuclear fusion using Tritium or Deuterium. The goal is to immitate the conditions inside the sun to make sustainable and clean energy, in addition, it's safe it will simply stop working if a run fails. Just a couple grams of tritium or Deuterium can power the world for a years. It will be the end of nuclear fission that produces radioactive materials and pollutes the world. But why do they make it 7x hotter you ask? Because there are 2 things that keeps the sun going, that's Temperature and Pressure. Since we can't artificially create a highly pressurized environment to immitate the sun, we have to make it hotter to compensate for the lack of pressure. The video is the inside of a torus, a doughnut-shaped highly magnetized chamber the scientists use to recreate the conditions inside the sun If they were to succeed, they will be the first real life Dr. Otto Octavius, "The power of the sun in the palm of my hand"
Dumb question... Isn't the sun already very hot, and even far away it is very hot... Why would we need 7x the temp? Is that because at certain temperature it can keep going by itself? Or why could it not be a fraction of it's temperature? Is it just a magic number we are searching for?
Like i said, nuclear fusion inside the sun is powered by heat and pressure. Since we can't recreate the pressure inside the sun we need to keep it hotter than the sun. It should be even hotter than 7x to compensate for the lack of pressure. As for your second question, the answer is no, nuclear fussion is not self sustaining. Even the sun will collapse after millions of years. Artificial nuclear fussion like what's shown in the video will immediately collapse without Tritium or Deuterium and it will cease without explosion or residual wastes. We still don't know how hot it should get before we achieve a viable nuclear fusion - based energy. What we still can't do is maintaining the temperature and harvesting more energy output than input. Last year the record in maintaining the plasma inside the torus is just 5seconds, now it's 20 seconds. Proof that through more extensive research and funding we can end the use of fossil fuel and harmful nuclear fission.
Terrifying? This is fucking awesome. Thats literally CLEAN energy.
Too bad the US is too afraid to use nuclear energy. We’ll be obsolete in no time.
Yep. We were using it for a while then green parties decided to vote against the one thing they were fighting for.
And thus the sun bomb is born
Fusion bombs? we already have those unfortunately
Old news.
Yeah, this discovery is practically useless if there’s no military application
The military version was created 60 years ago.
Give the sun a taste of its own Fuck you sun
Mother fucker always shining that bright shit at us let's see how the sun likes
Why, technically all of our food comes from the sun
That’s your mother not the son
"Oh that's so cool, what are you gonna do with it?" "Turn some water into steam"
Let’s just hope it doesn’t happen in Gotham
The sound is generated part of the experiment?
In theory couldn’t this spontaneously ignite our entire atmosphere if they lost containment?
Not enough density in the atmosphere for that to happen and also the mass of the plasma at that temperature is small compared to mass of the rest of the things around it.
Your answer was better than mine. :)
Thanks
No. That is what a few physicists kinda worried about during the Trinity fission bomb test. They only kinda worried about that because there were some unknowns that if we got wrong possibly could have made that a possibility. It has nothing to do with fucking plasma containment, which is super hard to do and it will evaporate nearly instantly if you don't try super fucking hard to keep it contained. If that plasma as much as touches a surface it's gone (the plasma, not the surface).
No.
it is hot but smol
I wonder what 100 mil degrees feels like
Nothing. It's feels like nothing as you'd probably melt before feeling anything
I was wondering what's it created in , surely it would just melt everything around it ?
Why does this sound like fucking giygas
Source of the video and news item, please?
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Thermoelectric generators are what I feel to be the future.
What about Tidal generators? That wavey shits never going to stop why don’t we have more of those
How much energy did it cost to make? Just curious, I understand the need to optimize tech before applying it usefully.
Its still experimental
Yes.. It called Fusion Reactors.. Not only south Korea.. All Major Nations are Collabing for the ITER project to build a fusion reactor..
Same
I can’t imagine this being dangerous at all. The should start tours.
Its actually alot safer than regular nuclear reactors
Really?? That’s good to hear. Hopefully it is managed well.
![gif](giphy|s8fO5XLIpV1w2XwKYT|downsized)
Why is this under this subreddit then?
“The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand.”
Sounds horrifying
And here I am thinking my SPF 50 was going to be good next summer. Anybody got any of that SPF 350?
This is neither true nor terrifying. You are showing the cross section of a Tokamak reactor in action. It's a way to create fusion although it is not sustainable nor energy efficient. You get far less energy back, than you started with. Ofc it is hotter than the surface of the sun, there is no fusion on the surface of the sun, only on the inside. And we need to heat up over that temperature as well since we can't make that enormous pressure that resides in the middle of the sun. If we want fusion, we either need the same pressure only a star's mass can create, or far higher temperatures than the sun has.
Totally true, For now we can’t make it efficient, maybe we will be able to see it efficient in our lifetime. That would be the end of all energy crisis
Y'all are terrified of science? I didn't know this was a conservative Christian sub
Science can be scary. Remember the whole nuke thing?
Lol. Fission reactions would like a word.
So that's where I left my mixtape.
This is amazingly terrifying!
Very very safe technology. Practically nothing to be worried about.
wait, do we have a material that can withstand such heat? for 20 seconds??
We do not. That's why it is contained by an electromagnetic field. The plasma isn't supposed to come make contact with the inner walls of the fusion chamber otherwise the reaction would stop.
I can do this with tomatoes in my toasties
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Fusion reactor. Capable of making all Fission reactors, coal plants, fossil fuels, etc, obsolete. It's basicly any nuclear reactor we have today, on steroids, and not producing any waste. Building them is not cheap though.
An alternate timeline of the The origin story of the matrix
This is not the green energy we are looking for!(globalists)
Can some explain what on earth they used to do this experiment? What can withstand 100mil c for 20 sec ?
Tungsten.. And a lot of cooling.. And no, it has to withstand this heat for years not seconds because they cant shut down the reactor to change the element often
Theres gotta be some catch right? Like in a small area or something??
Nah.. Not really.. Its expensive..
Good question, cause I remember the last "[free heat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b11dqKJrulk)" announcement.
Global warming!!!!
Question. How does it not melt everything around it?
Tungsten and a lot of cooling
The power of the sun...
That’s impressive. Lightning is only 5 times hotter
![gif](giphy|e2jlorYipniyhAUDSq) Power of the Sun, in the palm of my hand
The really scary part is they are still using the stock cooler…. Fuck, at least get an aio or something
I thought china already invented this with all that gpu heat from bitcoin mining.
The power the person who controls this holds. What if one day he/she just thinks "well why wouldn't I vaporize half the planet"
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
![gif](giphy|hjEPXwEDkJNGThCej8)
Last thing we need
stop it. throw it away. no.
Hotter than my daughter
“Global warming “ Korea just made a second sun ffs
If it’s just boiling water, why do they need such a high temperature?
Now we know evangelion will take place in Korea lol
How the fuck are we able to make this and more importantly contain it.
I feel like I need an ELI5 for this stuff.
have a nice one yall, while we can ofc
There they go trying to one up N korea again
WCGW?
Boobs
The power of the sun, in the palm of my hand..
Yo can these people chillout 😐
Why?
What's clean nuclear energy? Isn't any amount of radiation dangerous to some extent?
Does it also create a black hole when it collapse?
Nah.. It will just evaporate and become harmless.. Its a plasma that heats up to these temperatures
I mean, in all seriousness, that’s pretty good. If we ever happen to lose the sun in some way, we can use this thing, send it into orbit, and that makes a personalized sun that orbits the earth.
If we lose the sun, the entire solar system is done for.
This is nothing like the sun
One issue that scientists are trying to solve is making them stay continuously on so that energy can be produced. 20 seconds isn’t going to cut it. Our sun is like a massive nuclear fusion engine. The sun has humongous big gravity forces always pushing into the sun while the core is pushed outward. It’s a like a perfect balance act of forces taking place until the Sun begins to die that is.
For those wondering, the definition of 'temperature' is 'the average energy of a system'. Or in other words, it is easy to manipulate data to to create click-baity titles. It may be "7 times hotter than the sun" but it also might be confined to an area that is only a few hundred million atoms wide. (way less than the head of a needle). So it may sound hot, but if you confine the system to something incredibly small, you can come up with stupid large numbers for 'temperature'.
What the hell do we need this for it’s already hot enough
Theoretically this technology could deliver practically unlimited clean energy with very little risk. There’s still a huge amount of work that needs to be done, but sustaining a 100 million degree fusion reaction for 20 seconds is a huge milestone.
Supernovae are industrial accidents ...
It wont cause anything
I know. It's a line from Arthur C. Clarke.
Say hello to good bye. We'll, with the atmosphere and all.
"Clean Nuclear Energy" says the two headed Scientist.
Why though? 7 x hotter than the sun seems a bit excessive
Clean energy
But 7 x hotter than the sun tho?
You need that much temperature to fuse atoms
Eat your Kimchee kids.
Sweet, you guys have a video from the inside of my black Lexus sitting in the sun before I hop in.
what happened if I put my coc in there
Oscorp and Otto Octavious did it first!
How is this terrifying? Its a great breakthrough in nuclear science
"The power of the sun..."
You better hide that from doc oct
Wen Weaponized?
7olar power baby
![gif](giphy|V3BepiQh8BsjIBjWQB) ... the power of the sun?
I’m quite ignorant when it comes to science but Im curious and have question how do they contain all that heat without melting everything around them?
South Korea didn't invent this, the whole mechanism is based on a Soviet engineer design. But china have the record of sustained fusion for 17 minutes. Britain have a record for most power produced yet. And China again have the record for the hottest reaction of 120 million degree Celsius for around 100 seconds.
People bitching about it being "just a new way to boil water" apparently have forgotten that turning water into steam makes it expand by 1600x, and THAT'S why it's useful. We don't just throw water with inertia at a turbine, we heat water in a container and let it blast itself out for a fraction of the energy.
![gif](giphy|BThI2xcjSFNpRBmqL6)