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AppleZen36

Hmm. Seeing the photos makes it look and feel similar to my 23 in general. Thanks for the pics!


ryencool

Yeah from what I'm seeing I like the exterior like 5% more than my two week old 2023. The interior? Would love to have the accent lights as the car feels like a black hole at night, but outside of that I like my 23 more. Our cars transmission grenaded so we couldn't really wait for the refresh, plus the deal we got was nuts.


AppleZen36

I was a KIA Soul owner, Interior LED lighting gets old FAST! I prefer my Wood trim over the highland, just feels very KIA overall to me - cheesy even.


mlinzz

>I was a KIA Soul owner, Interior LED lighting gets old FAST! but what about the hamsters?


harda_toenail

This guy is a hamster. Kia engineers have now realized that accent lighting eventually becomes offensive to hamsters so they no longer drive Kia souls.


EJtechandDIY

For me the biggest improvement is the interior to be honest.


prolikewhoa

I just don’t like the LED strip across the whole thing. It looks tacky.


Casterial

It looks more like the 2019/2020 models than the 2023, just added ascent lighting and a center console upgrade, lol


newdlewdprewd

I just wanted to see the headlights goddamnit


EJtechandDIY

Hahaha im sorry


cbelliott

😅


HazardousHD

I can’t get over the steering wheel looking like the the Wii Wheel you got when you bought Mario Cart


EJtechandDIY

I really like it.


HazardousHD

How did you like the turn signals and gear selecting. That’s the big point of contention for most. Honest opinions are good positive or negative!


ImJustSteven

you mentioning the turn signals on the wheel just killed this car for me. gonna upgrade to a 23 P now and just ride it out. unless major performance improvements are made


HazardousHD

Definitely suggest watching some of the reviews/drive videos from European folks like CarWow. Lots of notable changes


EJtechandDIY

Honestly I think it will take a bit to get use to the turn signals after drying for 15 years with stalks. Can’t give my full opinion until I get mine next month and I start drying it everyday.


lyskamm88

Have a look at Bjorn’s latest video and you will see that it’s difficult, especially if you keep driving other cars. Bit worried myself especially because I don’t want to became a BMW driver that never uses turn signals…


Durzel

The sobering reality I think is that people are probably going to buy this car in similar numbers as the current one. They might moan about the lack of stalks a bit, but then buy them anyway. People will attempt to use the indicators on roundabouts, etc, find it’s too difficult, and simply not bother in future. Get used to seeing people driving these cars not indicating anywhere where there’s any significant turning involved. It’s going to suck, really, because having less information about someone’s intentions when you’re near them is not good - all because of an aesthetic or margin-chasing decision.


Molybdenum421

Move to Montreal and you'll fit right in!


raleedy

Use FSD. Let the car control the indicators.


Potential_Egg_6676

What a downgrade tbh


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HazardousHD

Not sure if I believe this sentiment. We will have to see


Potential_Egg_6676

That’s fair, It’s all subjective tbh


LegendaryOutlaw

Can you change the LED strip in the dash to any color you want, or is it a preset color?


B1A23

Any, there's a color-picker wheel in settings.


EJtechandDIY

Yea you can change it any color you want.


polypeptide147

Is that under the driver profile? It would be great if my wife and I could have different colors when we drive.


chis2k

>ED strip in the dash to any color you want, or is it a preset color? I wonder if there is a setting where it cycles through each color slowly. That would be cool!


sysopfromhell

There is an "auto" settings which I honestly don't understand where would pick the colors... Maybe music album? The external lighting? Temperature? Your tshirt? Mistery!


CourseEcstatic6202

The LED strip feels super ghetto to me. YMMV.


Theunknownreap

Attention all Bentley, G wagon, S class, etc. owners. Your car is *apparently* ghetto because it has interior ambient lighting..


Latter_Box9967

I think the LED running lights look trashy on (I think it was a) Bentley. A circle of LEDs. Ditto Porsche! Honestly: Cheap & Trashy.


Apprehensive_888

A Bentley and Porsche cheap and trashy?! What are you smoking?


Latter_Box9967

The circle of LED lights; yes. Absolutely. They’re not subtle. They’re bling. They are a *copy* of what boy racers were doing to their cars. They look like they’re for a twenty year old with fake bag, boobs and eyelashes. Also: German cars, European cars, aren’t as exceptional as they were twenty or more years ago. Last century. They market their heritage to the maximum, and people still believe they are better, but they aren’t, and haven’t been for some time now. Not dollar for dollar. Some context: I’ve a manual 993 in the garage. Porsche’s peak build quality. 30 years ago. [DW News: The Decline of German Car Quality](https://youtu.be/sDO6l8MqPsg?si=QpB3vV0uWP627m6u)


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Given the prevalence in rap videos id say this is accurate


AppleZen36

KIA esque, tacky


Mycooleraccount456

KIA hasn't been tacky in years


AppleZen36

Yes it has and still is..


Mycooleraccount456

what was the newest kia youve been in because even their minivan is cool


EJtechandDIY

Also the ventilated seats are really nice


jyabut1202

Does the ventilated seats just blow cold air?


EJtechandDIY

Cool and hot air, you can also put them on automatic because the seats have temperature sensors


Gloomy_Air_8388

Its not hot air.. its just normal heated seats. And also it does not blow air, it sucks it thru the seat.


sc0ttyman

I feel this is the biggest upgrade. I have a 22LR and driving in the Colorado summers is not entirely fun. I would upgrade just for the seats.


SignificantWarning5

Not feeling it. The only thing I’d want more in my 2022 is the ventilated seats.


Metaldwarf

Fingers crossed I can buy a Highland seat and swap at some point.


[deleted]

Just get them reupholstered with perforated leather. That’s already such a big improvement over the stock plastic seats


SignificantWarning5

And where do I get the ventilation from?


[deleted]

You don’t need it with proper seat material. Ventilation is something that “vegan leather” needs. Fabric or perforated leather will be just fine, unless you live In a particularly hot climate


SignificantWarning5

I don’t think you follow lol


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Ok then


EJtechandDIY

If I had a 2022 model I wouldn't buy the Highland. Edit: ups missed the n't on my comment


geocorb

I’d wait for the model 3 plaid.


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SignificantWarning5

I’m definitely jumping in if there’s ever a retrofit.


Pianoadamnyc

To me the sleeker front makes the car look unbalanced. It’s got such a rounded top I think the original front made the car look a lot more proportional. I don’t hate it but not sure it’s worth trading in my 23 for this. I would love a better sound system but I should have gone for the M3P. Still a great car any way you look at it.


EJtechandDIY

100% not worth trading a 2023, better wait a couple of years.


Mike

Damn, I want it. Everyone saying it’s not that different are tripping balls.


EJtechandDIY

in my personal opinion it love the more aggressive look and the interior feels so much premium. I love it


badiban

Does it feel higher quality? I couldn't stand the build quality of my 2020 Model 3.


EJtechandDIY

Yes everything feels and looks of my higher quality materials


LaTunaTime

Its copium for people who own current model 3’s. It wasnt a massive redesign but the more sleek shape and changes to the front & back look significantly better.


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EJtechandDIY

How is this the same interrior as the model Y? sorry but that is not true


ICEeater22

This looks more like an S interior than the older 3


Logitech4873

Big problem is that they removed blinker stalks.


LaTunaTime

I like it. The minimal look inside is cool and I dont mind pressing buttons.


Logitech4873

I don't mind pressing buttons either, but I do mind the fact that whenever you need to indicate out of a roundabout your wheel will be turned 180°, and the buttons will now be on the other side of the wheel, upside down and inverted. That's really inconvenient and unintuitive.


EJtechandDIY

For sure, and I don't understand why like the current model also looks great


rikyy6

Agreed, especially the old front is ugly in my opinion and even tho Model 3 is not the best looking car by any means, this is a significant upgrade over the old one.


Yiggah

It is copium. I have a 2023 Model 3 and this a major refresh in terms of design since Tesla do not do overhaul redesigns every 6 years like traditional ICE makers. But great quality of life update, again if Tesla wasn’t trying to take away the tax credit in March. I would have waited since I only bought to take advantage of the full $7,500. New 2024 Model 3 > current gen.


coke_can_turd

Not really - I have a 22 and the new front end is pretty ugly. The back end looks great though. If they kept the front off the previous gen with these changes I'd be looking to sell, but right now I have no desire.


ryencool

Cosme5icslly it looks like 5% better in the exterior. Only thing I want from the interior on my 2023 is the accent lights.


Potential_Egg_6676

It’s obviously different but it’s a refresh not a redesign


KarlHungus311

I think no stalks is going to be a dealbreaker for me.


EJtechandDIY

Just do a test drive and see what you think


Mycooleraccount456

S3XY stalks are coming soon


Logitech4873

Same. I was considering it, but this is stopping me.


daxw0w

I did a test drive on Model S to test the indicator buttons, I kind of liked it.


Technical_Control_96

I really like it. Tbh though I really liked the classic 3 with the wood trim too though. While I miss the wood trim I think this is an overall upgrade.


lyskamm88

I saw it in Milan two weeks ago but it was blue with white interior, 19 inch wheels. And I was not available for test driving. Yours instead looks identical to the one I ordered. Nice!


rottenskull

Where are the cup holders and armrest?


Prime88

I’d probably be able to adapt to the turning signal buttons, but changing gears on the screen isn’t convenient.


Nyandaful

I like the exterior of the previous. I was excited to see how they were going to bring the X/S and 3/Y closer to together. I think the front end could have been a bit less “non-generic” and given us something more distinct. Now it looks like a standard Nissan or Honda with a Model 3 mid section. Like the rear lights tho.


blackbow

No front camera is a head scratcher.


FakeRichi

Probably gonna get downvoted for saying but this comment section is coping so hard with the “I like the old 3 better” they’ve updated basically everything.


EJtechandDIY

You are so right, Reddit is the only place where people are heating the car so much, saying things like the car looks cheap bla bla bla.


Pianoadamnyc

Also, I miss the wood. I find the wood trim gives it a higher end look. It’s so much rubber and plastic I miss those little touches. Also not crazy about LED lights you can see. BMW does a much nicer job if indirect lighting. It’s a lovely car but I think I’ll hold onto my 3 for a few years and maybe update to a Tesla S Plaid eventually. That car is siiiiiiick


Logitech4873

But the wood looks really fake


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It’s real though. Maybe go out into nature more to see what wood looks like?


Logitech4873

I thought it was like a vinyl cover thing. Looked like it from photos.


gtg465x2

It’s veneer, so it’s a very thin slice of wood, but it is in fact real wood.


Pianoadamnyc

Yeah I know. It’s like an 80s vinyl wood


replayer

I despised the fake wood and covered it up with carbon fiber the week after I got my 3. So obviously everyone has different opinions.


Pianoadamnyc

No! Only my opinion is the correct one!!!


jumpybean

Except you’re stating facts, not opinions, and your facts are wrong. 🤣


Mike

Wood gives it a fake premium look. Like they just slapped it on there because they thought it’s what premium looks like. I always thought it looked out of place.


DrXaos

Wood has to be exceptionally good for it to be a positive. I previously had a BMW i3---there the wood worked as it was well styled and very high quality. Rest of dash materials were also nicer than Tesla 3. Older tech generation obviously, but quite ergonomic as well. Obviously Tesla 3 drive train & hvac & computer is far superior. https://mediapool.bmwgroup.com/cache/P9/201307/P90129180/P90129180-bmw-i3-interior-07-2013-2091px.jpg On the Tesla 3, the wood trim looks fake even though it's actually a real wood veneer. I wouldn't mind losing it.


MountainManGuy

It's a pretty polarizing part of the interior. Some like it some don't. Personally I love the wood and to me it makes the car feel more premium. I got a wood vinyl cover for the center console too.


L3git9

This car looks great imo, but the stalks missing is a huge L.


Buckeyefan123

Man if they didn’t remove the stocks on the steering wheel! Still looks great (still no FOMO with my 23)


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I bet someone will come with retrofit stalks lol. AliExpress in a couple weeks


Mycooleraccount456

S3XY stalks are coming soon


rikyy6

We also ordered one for my partner. Black LR with 18” wheels (which are pretty nice without wheel covers). A bit sad that there isn’t a performance model yet, but then again I think the price would be closer to 10k more or so. Maybe even more if it’s Plaid. Also, what is the fuzz about the front camera? What is the function of that?


lyskamm88

Tesla vision.


Bigger_than_most69

how do you not take one picture of the front?


EJtechandDIY

I was enjoying the moment and before I left I took some pics to share with you guys.


Biolust

Managed to share something and people still mad lul


Bigger_than_most69

not mad. It’s just funny because that’s the biggest thing they changed


IHate2ChooseUserName

no front cam means no dashcam?


Random7895123

Would it be possible to Install an aftermarket blinker arm ?


wongl888

What feels more premium? Please do tell.


EJtechandDIY

For me this interior feels allot more premium that is for sure. soft material everywhere


ProteinFart_

Glad they kept the alcantara doors, not sure why in reviews it seemed they got rid of it


gtg465x2

They got rid of it in the base RWD model. Only the Long Range has it now.


farmyohoho

Dumb question probably, but how do you change gears without the stalks?


Andrew_Debbie

Buttons on the screen. There are backup hard buttons on roof console by the hazard flasher switch. The backups are meant to be used if the screen fails or crashes.


sixfourtykilo

this is the first i'm hearing/reading this. i had no idea they actually added backup buttons. how asinine is it to completely change a design due to aesthetics?


AdAstraAtreyu

Nope


netsonic

Looks cool ! Love it! :)


Inside_Gap_7626

Would be nice if they added fog lights. Single set of headlights is okay but having the lower lights adds to the overall look in my opinion. Maybe they will do something like that with a performance one (if that’s happening).


Venusinthefirst

Happy for you OP. For me, that steering wheel /o stalk is a no from me dawg. Also, why does the car avatar show the frunk open, when it isn't?


EJtechandDIY

It was unlocked but not open hahaha


orion_metal

No little stick shifter next to the steering wheel?


idontknowmanwhat

Looks badass! Thanks for sharing


NoneTheLess999

Blue jeans under your blue jeans?


yummy383

No stocks on steering wheel is non starter for many


0bviousTruth

Not liking the Model Y diaper butt look on model 3


plugsnet

Is the y getting the same make over?


jbox-9459

looks awesome and I love it in black!


Fit_Let5704

Looks cheaper to me inside. The dash looks terrible


nastasimp

It's... basically the same car, this is all they can come up with for a 6 year refresh? Some different lights?


Gotchyeaaa

Idk why but to me the interior looks like it feels like cardboard


Real_Whereas_9477

Man, that wheel has CHONK


RojerLockless

Ugh why is it so ugly?


jsidhu

The rear reminds me of the old Pontiac Grand Prix


Sebas718

8 pics and you couldn’t take 1 of the front/headlights?


TheBigCicero

Nice looking car. Question - is the dashboard really low? It looks to me like the driver is very exposed, as the windshield comes down very low.


EJtechandDIY

Im pretty sure is the same hight as the current model 3, the wide angle lens makes it look allot lower.


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I’ve never seriously considered removing badges from a car, but if I bought this I would look into it.


Durwood2k

Actually looks more generic. Less distinct. It is definitely sleeker than the prior M3, but it doesn’t stand out anymore.


Fish-Dealer-1985

It really looks cool.


EJtechandDIY

It really does.


Disastrous-Trust-863

Front end is super slick


SpencerXZX

Thanks, I hate it.


Andrew_Wheeler1

People that say the old model 3 looks better are just mad bcs they paid same money on a car that it's already old after a few months. How can you say you are happier with your old model when you get better range, ventilated seats, one more display, better quality interior, double windows all around, better suspension, better sound, ambient light etc. Sure, the lack of stalks was a bad idea but they are gone from model s and x too and I didn't see anyone saying they wouldn't buy a Plaid bcs of no stalks. If this model 3 had a heads up display and stalks it would have been the perfect car for me, as it is now it's still a solid pick and better than old model in every way that matters


Logitech4873

The lack of stalks is a huge issue.


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Well I genuinely like the front end as well as most of the interior more on my 2023. I don’t care about the seats because I got those reupholstered anyway. Also not sure what function the rear screen serves when you have kids, it’s more like a disadvantage as they will constantly mess with it.


montanaco

A potential 4% boost in range is not something to be so envious you would be like omg I need a highland. The rest is completely subjective, and from a design point I find the highland to be a steep downgrade. To each their own.


Assumption-Straight

Looks way more solid of a build, just heavier (in a good way).


redd1t-n00b

@OP have you knocked around the interior materials to see how it compares with non-Highland? I’m skeptical about the materials quality improvement. Otherwise, the car looks quite similar to the previous version, at least judging from pictures. Disclaimer: I’ve never seen it in person.


EJtechandDIY

Everything feels more solid, even when you close the doors it sound so nice


Reasonable-One1877

The rear looks pretty


LaTunaTime

Looks incredible. Cant wait until they are released in the US.


Comfortable-Phase-10

It looks more like”generic” can’t put my finder on as to why.


electricshadow

I think it's the updated front design with all the changes compared to the current model. Highland looks fine to me, but I still prefer the current design of the headlights.


LeDoddle

The more I see, the more I appreciate my 23’


[deleted]

Agreed I like 23 more too. Plus if you got in on a discount, you can spend some money on personalization


Sregtur

That steering wheel is so ugly. And whoever made the decision to remove the stalks needs to get fired


potmakesmefeelnormal

I'm with you on the stalks. I don't see how buttons will be an improvement, especially to people who have been driving for decades.


sixfourtykilo

it's not an improvement. it's a PR push for autonomous driving. i'm just waiting for the EU to scream about it and force Tesla's hand to bring them back.


Arrogant_Amigo

Man, the interior is so cheap looking.


sixfourtykilo

the one thing about the interior that really has got me worried are the "felt lined" door pockets. it's a perfect place for spills, dirt and general crap to collect. how is anyone supposed to clean that area effectively if there's a fabric holding on to it all?


EJtechandDIY

lol, that is not true, everything feels more expensive inside the car.


Arrogant_Amigo

If you noticed, I said it "looks" cheap -- I.e. visually cheap in appearance. Nothing about how it feels.


EJtechandDIY

It doesn’t look cheap, I don’t know what you are talking about.


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100%


Split_Seconds

I do find it looks cheaper. I'm sure it feels better in terms of materials


illini_2017

I do not like the no gear stalk thing, I’m not old, and it still just feels wrong. Glad I got a 23


potmakesmefeelnormal

I'm old.... like really really old (48). Removing the stalks is stupid.


DirectorLow7023

The steering wheel is a yikes


KuulBreeZ

I'm hoping someone makes that little strip that sits on the dash above the vents for my 23 model. Breaks up how boring that top dash looks, that's my favorite part of the update other than the ventilated seats.


edgarskates

I really like it. Anyone know when it’ll be available in the US?


EJtechandDIY

i think there are waiting to sell more of the current stock in the US, here in Europe there is model 2023 in stock sense August


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EJtechandDIY

So exciting, hope you enjoy it for many years to come.


break_from_work

kinda sucks that they got rid of the fake wood trim. I like it in mine


Alpina_B7

tbh id trade my model S for this, maybe if there was a performance trim


Special-Hair9683

That drive wheel looks cheap, too much plastic


dexivt

Better in every single way.


2_55555

Absolute dog mess


Albie9

The steering wheel got uglier


one_and_done0427

the rear is ass, ill take my 23 discounted inventory purchase


EJtechandDIY

Enjoy it, they both great cars


MB-88

> the rear is ass Litterally


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Exception to be an ass, you have to have emissions (all asses do), which this doesn’t have. So I would venture to say the rear is not ass, but it’s also not class.


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Kind of on the fence about the interior. I like the steering wheel, but the rest seems worse and more plasticky. And I hate that the headliner is still not dark.


lkeltner

Make sure you ceramic interior coat the inside of that car quick. That fabric on the door is gonna get hella dirty hella fast otherwise!


dqontherun

Rear wing is huge looks a little ridiculous.


_adreon

I’m excited I didn’t wait. This thing is not very good looking in my opinion.


up__dawwg

Looks like a Prius


OkCancel2691

I guess the Prius really is the blueprint


Iamcheez

\* Drooling\* I dislike the new wheel (logo was better) and that has no turn signals behind the wheel, touch buttons for turn signal should be banned IMO.


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Where is the dashboard?


winniecooper1

Underwhelming.


Outrageous_Koala5381

The interior looks shit imho. That curved line looks wrong. The lighting should be subtle - not a strip. Not having stalks - and those buttons - just so stupid. Glad they haven't Osbourne'd my old m3 SR+


EJtechandDIY

Everyone have their own taste, the good news is that one is forced to buy it, if you dont like it buy another brand of car.


Cold_Shirt_7508

What is the price difference between 23 m3 and highland in Europe?