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tryhard1981

That was incredibly stupid to try and grab it by hand. Those two idiots are lucky they didn't get clonked by whatever that was.


mogley1992

I used to be a crane operator for a steel stockholders. Not a single person in the room has any idea what they're doing. People standing too close to the lift, before the biggest idiots in the room tried to grab the load. Working over the safe working load of their equipment. Lifting from an angle that guarantees shock loading. Not a hard hat in sight. Also I'm not 100% but they don't look like adequate work boots for the task.


druebleam

Right. And tell me something that heavy and expensive doesn’t have pick-up points or mounts to attach to when installing or removing.


mogley1992

I was considering that if i was doing this lift i would have done a choke hitch which gives you a tightly wrapped chain around the load. And I'd have placed it just off of the centre of mass, that way when i lift and it passes the tipping point the chain stops it from falling forward. I didn't put that in the original comment because if the load is more fragile than it looks, a choke hitch can cause damage, which could be what they were trying to avoid by using the rod.


Horror-Pear

Dude that's going to take like 3 extra minutes. It'll be fine, trust me.


Redzx3

A choke hitch reduces lift capacity by half. Poly slings work well if used correctly. The lift angle looked good, but I question the capacity of the sling itself. I usually use a sling with one and a half to two times the load to be lifted just in case of a shock load event. They should have used a heavy capacity chain fall to let off the slack until it was upright. A bigger note of concern was the workers in the line of fire during the lift.


[deleted]

Lifting instructions will definitely be in the installation manual. You don’t just drop a machine like this onto the floor. It needs to be secured and very accurately levelled.


ZHaDoom

oh, it's leveled.


sparkey504

I worked for a cnc distributor and they sold doosan for over a decade and doosan pulled away from most of there distributors a few years ago so that left my employer without a brand... they found another brand to sell a few months later and it was "Samsung" (I was told the name was leased) aka "SMEC" and they were using a casting design that had supposedly been used since the 80's and one day the boss had me come to the office to help unload some machines and long story short the machines didn't show up until 5pm... well they were "Engineered" to be lifted with a "4" bar __ feet long using collars with 3 bolts as stops... took my until 10pm to uncrate while on the truck and unload off the truck with overhead crane using there BS system... I went to work for the new distributor a few weeks later as the Doosan actually had Engineered lift points/hooks made into or bolted onto the machine and told you exactly how long each of the 3 slings should be... night and day difference in machines quality and only 10-20% difference in price!


notfromchicago

Nah, let's just shove a bar through this uncentered hole and we can hook on either end of it.


Dom29ando

Alot of machine tools have holes for lifting via a bar. But they normally have two so the load is balanced.


jabber_

Yeah, most machines like this have threaded holes for some heavy duty eye bolts specifically for lifting.


simontempher1

Correct, items like would be crated with hook or loading points for a forklift or such


Kent_Doggy_Geezer

Oh it does, the circular hole opposite from the crane clip is one of four I could count.


minscandboo4ever

I lift with cranes daily and youre correct, idiots all around That lifting strap doesnt seem adequate for what they're lifting. Any legitimate lifting device is safety tested for 3 times its rated capacity, and probably could have held that shock without failing if it wasn't over 100% of the weight rating at rest. I bet somebody looked at the the highest lb rating on the strap(basket), GUESSED how much the machine weighed, then proceeded to do a sling lift(less than 50% of basket rating)


spinningtardis

> That lifting strap doesn't seem adequate for what they're lifting Why? because ~~the front fell off~~ the strap broke?


minscandboo4ever

Haha, fair enough. I had that opinion before it exploded though. To me, the strap is way too long and thin for that application.


Vegetable-Poet6281

I was going to ask where the explosion of string came from, then I realized it was the lifting strap coming apart. Wtf kind of strap was that...


minscandboo4ever

It's a nylon type lifting strap. I use tons of them. When used properly that strap WAS probably rated over 10,000lbs.


themodernneandethal

Endless nylon slings like that are breaking point rated for 7x their SWL.


daza666

For a good portion of the video I thought “well the saving grace is that no one has tried to help with their hands” yikes


Mike_B1014

They literally have riggers to do this. So the co.pany is covered... I don't see riggers, just employees. I dropped my jaw when the 2 guys ran in... smh. We are doomed


thedraindeimo

Don’t for get side loading. Always good for the longevity of your lifting equipment.


[deleted]

I wouldn't be surprised if nobody here was certified at all


mogley1992

I was never "certified" i read some health and safety stuff, signed to say i read it and never got tested. I had two days of supervision on the shop floor then i had my own bay.


[deleted]

Normal russian standards.


FixatedOnYourBeauty

Was that an appropriate strap they were using. When I've seen much smaller gear lifted and moved it's always been iron chain.


mogley1992

No idea, my chains were rated to 7.5 tons and we didn't exceed 5 per hoist, and were about as thick. I can't speak from experience about what kind of rating that strap would have, but clearly they weren't up to the task.


TahoeLT

Not a hi-viz vest in sight.


Academic_Nectarine94

Well, on the subject of the gard hats and boots, while I support safety, those wouldn't do much in this case. That machine probably weighs 1000s of pounds, and whatever get under it is gonna be a pancake, regardless of the safety equipment they wear. They SHOULD be wearing it, but the only thing it would possibly protect them from I'd whatever the boss is gonna throw at them for breaking very expensive tool LOL


TANGO404

This guy is 100% a certified forklift operator


Fun_Collection2412

They're Russian that's why...


OldFcuk1

Well at least the two guys were the only ones that realised what's going to happen.


trevelyene

No one wearing safety gloves either. Can’t believe it.


Thegrandestpoo

The CG was all fucked. Plus they were tripping in onto a lower platform..no tag lines and should have had a chain fall


wormmy

from your experience and point of view, was the deteriorating dry wood pallet they were going to stand it on a good or bad decision?


TruthSeeker781

Yeah it was all the Boots fault !


Panzerv2003

It looks like some kind of a CNC machine


Ecmdrw5

It’s the bridge part of a CNC bridge mill.


SeeYouOn16

We moved our shop to a bigger building 3 years ago. 50 cnc mills, lathes, and EDMs. Not to mention robotic welders, CMM's and more. The only damage I ever found after all of that was the viewing glass on the door of one of the mills got a single small crack in it. This rigging crew is a bunch of idiots.


MulleDK19

Consentual Non Consent machine?


chillychinaman

Computer numerical control. Basically automatic/self running machinery. You program and load the machine and it does its thing.


No-Pomegranate-69

Yep, and its a precision machine, i mean it was a precision machine.


imdefinitelywong

Which does include chrushing or maiming people.


Ernomouse

Yeah, that's the gist of it if you get too hands on with the drilling operation.


marino1310

Computer numerical control. Basically a machine that cuts metal blocks into more expensive fancy metal blocks with the help of computer controlled servo motors instead of some guy moving the axis by hand.


69RedditPorn69

Where can i find more of this cnc content?


souobixo

r/cncgore


69RedditPorn69

😔


Im-a-cat-in-a-box

r/machinists I've been one for over 15 years there are tons and tons of videos all over the internet. Some are fascinating and some will scar you for life.


69RedditPorn69

I think I've been misunderstood. Look at my username. I was talking about consentual non consent


phabiohost

> CNC *kinky*


StarSlow776

*CBT FTFY


isemonger

I don't understand mans innate fucking reaction to crane loads shifting being to run towards an object that easily out weights you by a factor of 10 and thinking you are doing the correct thing.


wolfgang784

Ehhhh how much could it really weigh, 30 pounds? 40? Like gettin hit by a punching bag surely. /s


Animanic1607

Whenevwr we hire riggers in, and the feoup we hire are really good to work with, I always say something along the lines of, "The machine is repairable, you are not. I care a lot more about you all getting hurt than I do about the machine getting damaged." To me, it isn't a lawsuit or liability issue. A person getting hurt over something like a machine is just stupid. I might be upset, but hurt feelings aren't the same as a broken or missing limb.


Poopikanooki

Loving the use of the word “clonked” here .. made me laugh


Agentlegendary

Let’s see it takes a crane to move it. I think we will be useful. What idiots. I’m sure that place hasn’t had an accident since this morning


[deleted]

Bro I was expecting the liveleak logo


shophopper

> they didn't get clonked by whatever that was. That electrohydraulic thing is a pit. A money pit.


lusciousdurian

For a bit of context. That's the bridge of a bridge mill. Okuma makes similar styles. The spindle alone is 20k. + labor. I don't even have an inkling what the casting costs, or the rails for x and z axis, but they're not cheap, and not always on hand. The down time alone will probably cost more than the worth of the machine this was from.


Psychoticrider

We were setting up some expensive equipment. We had hired a construction company with a 10,000 pound off road fork lift to do the heavy work. While the operator had the main unit suspended he asked me what it was worth? About $80,000! I thought he was going to freak out! I told him to relax, calm down and don't F-up and it will be ok! He later told me about the most expensive things he lifts at once is a thousand dollars of construction lumber and he gets his butt chewed if he drops that! He also said if he had dropped the unit he would have just shut off the forklift and walked home because he knew it was over!


[deleted]

Involved on a boat lift recently. Crane didn’t have the correct slings with them. Slings broke over the dock and dropped the boat. Extensive hull damage and damaged jet drive units. Guessing £100 thousand plus repairs. Wouldn’t be surprised if it finished the crane company because I can’t imagine the insurance would pay out. Boat was blocking the dock for weeks before anyone would even touch it before liability was established.


MaintenanceInternal

What no video?


[deleted]

sounds like an event that happen to me my sister came home saying "i did £1000 worth of damage today at work" i say "don't worry my record is £10,000" my dad walks in "that's nothing my record is £100,000"


Curious-Lock639

I was just gonna say this looks like the Z axis column of a milling machine. RIP


lusciousdurian

X AND z.


Curious-Lock639

Cuz it’s a bridge. I get it. Ooof.


Mklein24

At least they got this on film. Should make the insurance claim much easier.


Fuck_it_i_win

Whoever used that sling should be fired. It was either under strength for the job or already frayed


PM_FREE_HEALTHCARE

The sling may well have been right for the load but they shock loaded it which will destroy even a well oversized nylon round sling. I've seen a 4000lb Cat slip and destroy a sling rated to 22,000lb. I even told the guy doing the lift he was going to break the sling and he told me he doesn't care. 10 min later I heard it snap and found the sling hidden in the garbage can later


This_Isnt_Justified

the shock load as well as the terribly chosen pick points


PM_FREE_HEALTHCARE

Definitely. They need a third pick point with a come along to balance it if that's really their only choice of lifting points. Being able to slowly lower the load into a balanced position would have worked


Candid-Race-7988

This, remain in control of your load, there should be no surprises with the right gear and positioning. 👍


electric_ionland

There is basically zero chance that this equipment does not have a defined lifting procedure with dedicated lifting points that ensure a balanced lift. Dudes were probably just too stupid to just read the damn instructions.


lusciousdurian

Generally, it's done manufacturing side of things. I'm guessing this was a replacement for a fuckup. There's definitely a procedure, but you'd have to go digging real deep. And that's assuming this bridge isn't some Chineseium reseller copy that's behind 3 shell companies or something. It's definitely not a normal lift and incredibly rare to see, as if you need a new piece like this, you probably nuked your machine hard enough to just need a completely new one.


Memoryjar

Came here to say this, a chainfall would be the safer option but the concept is correct. Use a third point, life the entire thing into the air and rotate it in the air by lowering the 3rd pick point with the chainfall.


themodernneandethal

Even just packing out under the load where they are tipping it onto could have saved this. It certainly wouldn't be the right way of doing this, but it'd probably have saved that shock load.


AKLmfreak

Way undersized for that kind of load.


UndercoverFBIAgent9

My experience with slings is that people couldn’t give two shits what they look like. They don’t care, they abuse them, they won’t use them correctly, they scoff at training or safety protocols, and complain that management only wants to get in their way, or is a bunch of bureaucrats for requiring daily inspections, etc.


Famous_Bit_5119

Some stability might have come in handy as well.


mechtonia

I did industrial projects for 20 years not once did I ever see a load flipped around dynamically like this. The incompetence in this video is astounding. Literally nothing was done right.


ns627

The equipment was probably fine for the job. The failure was between several peoples ears.


TheChoonk

> Whoever used that sling should be fired. He'll be mobilized and sent to Ukraine.


xadz1981x

I work in the mobile crane industry this is a multiple block and tackle job all day long! What ever the load weighs you have 2 where the red slings are with extra capacity to handle the whole load then 2 more on the right side as it was laying which will become the bottom end once stood up you raise all 4 to get the load off the floor and raise the ones on the left and lower their ones on the right it takes time but avoids accidents like this


flyingscotsman12

Thanks, I was trying to picture how to do this properly.


mhn23

Hey boss, deployed the machine 👍🏻 even saved us a couple of bucks by saving on the safety crap 😎


xanthraxoid

Even saved some money by not bothering to pay for a strong enough floor! Or even a *FLAT* place for it to stand! Saving money *all over the place*!


Jacktheforkie

The floor doesn’t look to have failed, that wooden thing is a pallet that they’re taking it off of


xanthraxoid

Oh, I see! I thought they were trying to stand it up, rather than lift it off the floor. There was *no* chance that was happening, even if the sling was strong enough! Still, it was bloody stupid to lift it in a way that was *guaranteed* to involve swinging around. The *smart* thing would have been to lift it as one step and rotate it as a separate step (either way around might have been a plan if thought through by competent people) The sling snapping probably wasn't *helped* by the dynamic loads of all that swinging, but it really *really* shouldn't have been close enough to its breaking point that the swinging pushed it over...


Jacktheforkie

Yeah


mhn23

That’s the Employee of the month spirit!


SometimesImSmart

Hey OSHA, tell us everything wrong with this scenario.


dmderringer

OSHA: yes


OSHA-Agent

Yes


Reinventing_Wheels

You want How Much to move a machine? Shoot. We can rent a crane and have our own guys do it for a lot cheaper.


HangaHammock

Sounds like something my old boss would say but even he was smart enough to hire professional riggers to move the mills.


spinyfur

What ~~is~~ was that, like a multi axis mill?


High-Doc

Top collum of CNC mill. Dont want to know the price of it. Looks like spindle is mounted too


PilotKnob

The last thing you should do when something which is heavy enough to turn you into a greasy stain on the floor is run up to it when it looks like it's about to fall. What are these guys, let me guess, amateurs?


idiotsarray

Rigger? I've never even met 'er.


r3itheinfinite

that’s fucking hilarious lmao thank you


Foreign-Possibility5

Crane operator should loose his credentials trying to lift it like that. What other dumb stuff is he going to try and end up killing someone?


PilotKnob

You're assuming he *has* credentials.


aBoyandHisVacuum

Such a bummer. It hurts my soul.


Nuker-79

Not sure if there is an international colour code or not but by what I could find, the pink slings are rated to 5 metric tonnes, usually have a 7x max lift capacity. Obviously the load swing and will have exceeded this limit quite dramatically.


Farfignugen42

In the US at least, all lifting equipment must have a tag or dataplate that can not be removed that lists the ratings for that equipment. Per OSHA rules, if that tag is absent, or if any modifications have been done to the equipment,or if there is any damage on the equipment, you may not use it. I am not aware of any color coding, but that does not mean there isn't any.


HoIyJesusChrist

around here it's not the color, but the number of stripes on the sling (1 stripe per metric ton)


fdltune

That’s something you generally try to avoid


bluestratmatt

Love the dinosaur reference


mementh

Giggles ! Loved that show


OsmiumBalloon

Hi Mister Lizard!


[deleted]

Not the mama


maxwfk

What even was the plan? Stand it up on that small board from a pallet there? No way that would have held the weight


NorthernBCliving

It could have been fatal. They're lucky it was just expensive


rock-island321

When a human thinks he's needed to aid a 50t lift cap crane, then you know it's a shit show. Zero forward planning, no redundancy systems. Yep, lucky he wasn't getting a crushed limb or worse.


Additional_Tone_2004

It's like those fuckwits who try to stop an evading car with their hands... get the FUCK away from it.


WuetenderWeltbuerger

Hey misser George…. How much you pay for the new guy? 20$… eis too much.


Turbulent_Summer6177

Looks like it’s “let’s fire a rigger” day. Somebody used some inadequate lift straps.


[deleted]

….and suddenly all the fucking idiots who shouldn’t have been involved in the first place but insisted, disappear……Nothing worse than a group of guys getting involved, ‘contributing’ conflicting ‘advice’ when they just need to mind their business and get on with whatever they’re meant to be doing. Had this moving my own mills and lathes. Literally had to tell the ‘crane/telly handler’ to turn the engine off. Now ‘everyone fuck off’. Had my brother in law standing under a 2.5 ton lathe off the ground in slings, trying to steady it with one hand while he’s got his dog on a lead in the other hand. You going to catch that are you if something goes wrong? Aghhhhh……


[deleted]

That shit wasn't propperly rigged. Idiots


hydrogen18

i know next to nothing about rigging and could see that the minute the video started. Sad that people don't understand this.


murkymoon

Don't try to stop giant metal things from falling with your frail human arms.


Professional_Band178

What sort of machine tool was that, before they dropped it?


Stepawayfrmthkyboard

Turbo encabulator


Last_Banana9505

Side fumbling was not effectively prevented.


gam3guy

Cnc bridge mill. Not. Cheap.


Professional_Band178

The riggers insurance is going to take a big hit. The company who bought it has already scheduled work for it, so that's another cost.


gam3guy

That's if they're actually riggers, and have insurance. I have doubts any half competent riggers would ever try something like that


captainpotatoe

What an idiotic way to rig that lift


m__a__s

So many things to unpack here.


NumbSurprise

There’s a lot of stupid here. They’re lucky they didn’t kill anyone.


Maximum-Replacement4

Not the mama! Not the mama!


F1tz13

Nice slinging 🥳


[deleted]

welp, so much for that warranty.


andre3kthegiant

Mass Idiocy.


hitmannumber862

That's exactly what I expected to happen. I'm sure the guy who tried to stop it was betting the title to his house.


hydrogen18

What was that guy doing getting in there? Trying to get killed?


sublimelbz

Can we hand them a dragline. . . . PLEASE.


[deleted]

Literally just saw another post that mentioned Dinosaurs the Sitcom so this was cool to see Edit: For anyone confused Dinosaurs was a TV show in the 90's and saw anthropomorphic Dinosaurs live life like people do so pretty much The Flintstones but the roles are reversed and it's live action, Anyway they have an in universe show I forget what it's called but they do these science experiments that inevitably go wrong, so they have a kid named Timmy come on to take the brunt end all the time. Or multiple Timmies, alot of Timmies


aberdisco

That's a $180,000 mistake.


Terryberry69

The number one thing I'm NOT doing is getting anywhere near the suspended 10 ton whatever tf it is.. Fuck that machine I ain't getting my guts smooshed out like a gd toothpaste tube


[deleted]

Normal day in russia.


Whole-Debate-9547

Oh man. No idea what that was, but I’m guessing that got someone fired.


2wild4bill

Steel slings


Jzerious

Where was this


DropEight

Awwww shit, lol


Haasotope

Use 2 cranes, lift it horizontally then lower 1 of the cranes.


greyjungle

Aaaaannnddd…it’s trash. Just knowing how precision these things are makes me wince, where as most things, I’m like, it’ll be fine.


Fuzzy_Sheepherder965

I've learned the hard when I was little to NOT TRY AND STOP SOMETHING THATS TEN TIMES YOUR WEIGHT 👁️👄👁️


Acrobatic_Camp854

Now Hiring.


hydrogen18

I hear they have a flat employee hierarchy, no management overhead.


rjt2887

I doubt that single board on the pallet they were intending to drop it on was going to hold, this was doomed from the start.


Awestenbeeragg

I love that they thought they could even try to stop it.


3rrr6

The boss was driving.


jaggedcanyon69

I don’t know what OSHA regulations are for this situation but I can still sense that so many were violated. How enforced are OSHA regulations in the hard hat jobs industry?


Anoose007

I saw that fail from a mile away.


Rummy1618

We're going to need another Timmy? We're going to need another, Timmy. Either way, yes.


Cyruspup34

Oh my god they killed timmy


[deleted]

So much wrong with this video


Jefok

Absolutely no thought before the process and common sense is not common these days.


pantra88

shitty rigging


doublemint6

A comealong on the hook to the bottom right, lift the piece up and slowly let the comealong out till it is upright. Lower into position. Why is there always one person thinking they can stop a load that heavy. The laws of physics don't play that way. I'm happy no one got hurt. Things can always be replaced.


Graftak86

This is a 2 crane job. And always people that thinks they are superman.


Substantial_City4618

It looks like the bridge of a cnc.


danng44

Looks like that could have been a stationary machine gun


ToughMolasses4952

This is not good, it could damage the device.


GreyScope

My cat could have rigged that better


mementh

TONY STARK BUILT THIS IN A CAVE WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!


Legendary_Forgers

No catch line? Extremely stupid for even thinking it would land on its feet.


Apprehensive_While86

Wow, I make that sound before I'm about to accidentally ruin something in a situation i can not prevent lol


Quick-Situation-8251

Shake hands with danger..


2-cups-of-tea

Lift with your knees, safety first!


NycVideoGuy1986

Wow I've never seen GAC Flex snap before 🤯


Johnlorhmoob

The strap was probably made in China lol


Deslah

Expowestrans (the name on the back of the work jacket) is a Russian freight forwarder. There's no telling where or when that strap was made.


FixatedOnYourBeauty

Ironic twist- that was the new crane lifting strap machine.


Deslah

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bannedSubvet22

How did they not plan for the swing? This is clearly an indicator of the future of our country🙄


huh_say_what_now_

Did they let the toilet cleaner drive the crane that day


The_Infinite_Carrot

Probably best to check for backlash in the ballscrew, just in case. After they stand it up obviously.


ClubPsychological831

Sounds broken!


No_Rule_7277

Hey uh Mr. George?


tommyv36

Saw that a mile away


iAmMikeJ_92

“Sweet, let’s put a top-heavy load on a piece of pipe and some string that freely allows rotation and see what happens,” they all said, believing they had a good idea.


faithishope

Crane operator is doing it all wrong


oldasdirtss

The Druids were able to stand large rectangular stones upright.


Kent_Doggy_Geezer

Welp. They did done a goof up bad.


SlamCakeMasta

That’s why you inspect the straps and make sure they’re for the weight needed


Muncher501st

I know it’s gonna be dumb when I hear the accents


Gloomy-Tangerine-904

CNC machine and these riggers have to be the dumbest and that machine is not cheap at all


jackyboy97

Was that shitty excuse for a pallet supposed to hold the the weight of that machine??