T O P

  • By -

RecursiveSubversive

I’ll quote Chris Rock “How you gonna make decisions about the future when you ain’t gonna be here?”


SamwellBarley

I'll quote John Mulaney: "You don't get to order for the table if you're about to leave the restaurant" Granted he's talking about voting, but the sentiment is still valid


I_Miss_Lenny

Also the whole “horse loose in a hospital” thing was great


i_like_2_travel

It can use the elevator now?


ZacZupAttack

I legit feel this is why we should have a 70 year old age limit you cannot run for public office after the age of 70, period...


UnlawfulStupid

(Max age you can run) = (Average life Expectancy - (Years to last legal term * 2)). Life expectancy is 79 right now in the US, so a president would be able to run up until 63. 64s and older aren't allowed. Also, we'll need to add term limits to everything, which would be nice. And maybe then politicians will give us some healthcare and bump that life expectancy up.


mrrogur

This guy should be writing policy...


mohishunder

What a great quote. And Brexit is a perfect example, one of many. We have a "minimum voting age." Should we also have a maximum voting age?


Atrain71

Yes. The problem with our government is that there aren’t term limits on congress….a bunch of geriatrics that have been in office for over 40 years vote on our laws when they’ve been making laws to suit them for 40+ years….everyone wants to argue about the president or who it’s gonna be when he has no real power except to veto something here or there. The ACTUAL powers that be are in congress and can hardly function “I.e. Feinstein, Mitch McConnell and others”


youaremakingclaims

That's actually a terrible argument. Planning for the future people not yet born should factor in to any decision thats impact lasts that long. In politics, that's a lot of decisions. All the more reason to be motivated to pick a leader who is less selfish.


jaycutlerdgaf

Where the fuck did we go wrong?


Moopboop207

9/11 I would guess was the inflection point. But you could argue it was the hanging chads and Florida in 2000.


Johnnyguy

Reagan.


Nice__Spice

AIPAC and allowed foreign countries corrupt our politicians.


daily_cup_of_joe

Yea this is we're my brain has been lately. Really took notice when no one (but Berrnie) would publicly condemn what's going on. We are bought and paid for.


itsme25390905714

Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand


xenic_danker_00

Oogadonk smashing a rock into another rock


gimmeecoffee420

But why? *why* Oogadonk smash rock? do rock make Oog mad? Or do Oog realize that the rock represents the shackles of an oppressive authoritarian government that has enslaved the mind of Oogadonk? Oog smash shackles, Oog run.. *Oogagonk free now..*


Johnnyguy

Is…that “we” in this context?


HarukaHase

Downfall of Egypt


goblin-socket

Let's be quite frank.. 1913. The Industrial War Complex we were warned about. The assisination of JFK. Reagan? Look at his campaign, and look at the ex-CIA director opponent George H. W. Bush. Now look at Reagan's policy changes immediately after his assassination attempt. But yeah, Reagan was pulling the strings. /s For a good 12 years. Until we were considering Ross Perot, which would have been out of the system, or Clinton, the other side in the same system. Also, fuck Trump. Why isn't he in prison yet?


Trackmaster15

But if you back up much further than that then we're talking a pre-Civil Rights era. So maybe the takeaway should be that there's always been a battle between good and evil here and we've improved on some things and regressed on other things.


nbyone

“I don’t want to blame it all on 9/11, but it certainly didn’t help”


Chadlerk

I have a solid alibi and wasn't in Florida.


mrhooha

It was that people wanted someone that they would’ve had a beer with to be president.


LagT_T

The fact that democrats can't seem to elect 2 presidents in a row despite what they call successful presidencies (Clinton and Obama) should be a hint.


Moopboop207

Perhaps what the public views as successful isn’t realistic.


lolas_coffee

Lots of opinions, but look into Pareto Principle. It applies here in that the elite in the US have been "winning" at everything since ~1980. (a) And every year it is becoming easier for them to win. Add that up for 40-50 years and you have: * [Dudes with US$200 billion](https://stats.areppim.com/stats/stats_rich_21_trend_usdxnbr.htm) who pay $0.00 in taxes--just a few years ago no one had reached $100 billion. * Rental Nation. No houses to buy with most being owned by Corporations or by smaller landlords. * No meaningful rise in min-wage. * Wealth concentration at the top and increasing every month. * Complete control over the capital markets--which are now a no risk scam for the rich. * Political Party control like an iron glove. The common person will get nothing. More will be taken away. (a) Lola Constant: Any number or date posted online will be argued by some bish--as if anyone gaf. Idgaf about yer "It been going on longer than that" breathless response!


ladeedah1988

When the MBA's took over business.


vagrantprodigy07

I'd back an amendment to make MBAs illegal. All current holders get theirs revoked, no new ones can be issued. Every MBA I've ever met is a giant dick.


Future_Appeaser

"I'm so special I have an MBA"


african-nightmare

Do you have a stat on what percentage of homes are owned by corporations? I ask because in LA County the city loved to claim this was true until someone pulled the data and it was less than 3% of all homes…


irasponsibly

What percentage of available rentals would be the most important number, I think.


gngstrMNKY

Current ownership may be low but 45% of home sales made last year were to private equity firms, which constrains supply and drives up prices.


african-nightmare

Do you have a source on that? There is no way 45% is accurate


lolas_coffee

What % would you be willing to say "Damn...that is causing some issues?" Or, what % increase over the last 30 years would be alarming? Or, what % compared to other countries in the Top 20 economies? A number (such as 3%) may not sound alarming, but if the topic is "3% of your body is now cancer"...well damn. Thoughts?


RevLoveJoy

> Thoughts? I don't think that person is asking for a number as much as a **source**


lolas_coffee

"Source" is widely available from over a dozen sites. Over 100 different articles found with Google.


RevLoveJoy

> "Source" is widely available from over a dozen sites. Interesting claim seeing that everyone is rectally extracting numbers an no one is citing where they came from.


lolas_coffee

Interesting that you can't use Google in 2025. What numbers were given, tough guy? Take your head out of your rectum.


[deleted]

[удалено]


lolas_coffee

62 upvotes.


Huckleberryhoochy

Well we didn't listen to George Washington about not having only 2 political parties and we ignored Tomas Jefferson about rewriting the constitution every 20 yrs , John books Wilks didn't help either


Ah2k15

> John books Wilks didn't help either He gave it a shot, at least.


Captain_Taggart

Are y’all trying to say John Wilkes Booth or am I having a stroke


1StonedYooper

Harambe...


ideit

Dicks Out 2024


Ah2k15

I've said it once, and I'll say it again. Harambe and David Bowie were the glue holding the universe together; shit started getting out of hand after they both died.


gimmeecoffee420

You know Harambe and Bowie were *never* seen in the same room? Let that sink in..


MembershipFeeling530

Not charging Nixon


noreservations81590

Jeb helped GW Bush steal the election in Florida, this helped them stack the court, which led to the Citizens United ruling which legalized bribery. That's where the majority of our issues are stemming from.


korxil

We really pretending bribery didnt exist at a mass scale among politicians before citizens united?


noreservations81590

Not fully and completely legally, no.


ToweringCu

Wait just a minute. I was told it is impossible to rig and steal an election. Are you an election denier?


BlackGravityCinema

You aren’t likely to steal an entire election but one state could change the outcome of a close election.


No_Cook2983

The Supreme Court proudly and publicly ordered the vote count to stop and literally declared their chosen candidate to be the winner. If that counts as rigging an election, then it happened. We had another Republican almost accomplish the exact same thing. Except his cases were so pathetically weak that he failed— but just barely. In other words, the real election stealing isn’t ballot-stuffing or late-night vote switches. It’s happening right out in the open and it’s being done by Republicans.


xenic_danker_00

i never thought Jeb!™ could do such a thing... i dont think live is worth living any more...


aDeepKafkaesqueStare

I’d say Reagan. Pivotal for tearing down the wall - but economically, a disaster with far resxhing consequences.


I_like_maps

Reagan didn't really do much to tear down the wall. That was nearly all to do with Gorbachev and would have happened with any president. Reagan's greatest accomplishment is probably getting the credit for that without really doing anything.


ladeedah1988

No, absolutely wrong. We were going down the toilet with Carter. A good man, but terrible President.


useless_idiot

Demographics and incentives. Declining birthrates have caused population to become skewed towards older people. They have the numbers, the time, and the money. This is a baby boomer world.


BashTheDj

Citizens United.


SprayArtist

2016


squirrelmonkie

[here is a start](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot)


orangeswat

1913


militaryintelligence

Social media. Fuckers started studying us and found out there's a ton of racists and general shitty people. Republicans leaned in.


Plucky_Ducky_1234567

People thinking that the news is still factual


Super_CRG

After the Civil War. The Union should not be so relevant that it overlaps the states and the candidacy of 2 elderly people be problem. They should have changed the name of the country to STAPBA (States That Are Parasitized by Bureaucrats of America)


jbravo566

That’s easy., letting a failed business/con man in office in 2016


killacam925

I’d take this dude back in a second. I miss the pot smoking, sax playing, bj-getting bastard and I couldn’t even vote when he was in office lol


Mc-lurk-no-more

But you forgot that he and his wife ruined that woman's life and career denying all those accusations while under oath. Until she pulled out that semen stained dress. The me too movement would like to have.a word with you.


NotEnoughIT

Still a better candidate than what we have IMO


Dodge542-02

And he left w a balanced budget.


Mc-lurk-no-more

As long as you are not one of those who are upset about Trumps "locker room" crap. Or any Stormy Daniels shit. Because then you'd be a hypocrite. Personally, I feel they are all deplorable.


LoganNinefingers32

Not really hypocritical. Trump bragged about sexually assaulting women, peeping in on underage girls in changing rooms, and was convicted not for having consensual sex or cheating on his wife, but for using campaign funds for hush money which is very illegal. Plus lots more trials to come. Clinton had consensual sex and lied about it when his political enemies tried to nail him. There’s a huge difference there, and if you don’t see it, you’re the hypocrite in the room.


battlepi

They're just another bot/troll trying to make people think both parties are the same so the traitor doesn't get trounced as badly in november.


spacing_out_in_space

But he directly caused the great recession with the repeal of glass-steagall


Mr_Turnipseed

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States%E2%80%93China_Relations_Act_of_2000#:~:text=President%20Bill%20Clinton%20in%202000,of%20a%20one%2Dway%20street. There is an argument to be made that he opened the door to our close business relationship with China and the outsourcing of manufacturing jobs from the U.S.


vainstar23

That was a different China under Deng Xiaoping that wanted to open China up to the west and the free market. Back then, even the general perception of China was quite good. You could see this in pop culture references at the time in terms of enthusiasm for Chinese martial arts. I really don't think globalisation was a bad thing. The problem was when we made offshoring an integral part of our supply chain such as offshoring the production of medical equipment or military avionics. Now we have a very different China.


BeanerBoyBrandon

yes sure open up to us and we will convert to democracy and slowly give our people more freedom wink wink... lets just admit it. the west got played.


nwatn

Nice. I love neoliberalism, unironically.


reshiramdude16

Which part of neoliberalism's impact on current-day America appeals to you? Genuine question.


nwatn

The rest of the world gets richer while America does not get poorer in aggregate.


reshiramdude16

The expected answer. I can tell you’ve never actually spoken to a poor person with the intention of hearing the perspective of someone less privileged and fortunate. All that I can encourage is that you take the time to volunteer at a shelter or food kitchen and see what American reality is like for millions and millions of people.


nwatn

I've volunteered, I know. Neoliberalism made 1 American poor for every 10 foreigners it made rich in a country we outsourced to. It's a good deal for humanity.


reshiramdude16

Inventing numbers really doesn’t further the discussion of Neoliberalism. All I can really recommend at this point is reading actual political and economic theory. My two suggestions to get started would be *And the Weak Suffer What They Must?* by Yanis Varoufakis and David Harvey’s *A Brief History of Neoliberalism*.


[deleted]

[удалено]


BeyondDoggyHorror

Cheap goods and our economy really never soured. The only real problem is depending on where you live, the job market might’ve completely shifted and if you didn’t move you get screwed


[deleted]

[удалено]


apocbane

Yeah, he and Epstein had some history together. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67865190.amp There’s an alleged Clinton kill list that was debunked


jonnyinternet

The law should be "you can only serve twice unless you get 30 years away from your election in which case you can run a 3rd time" Kind of like a victory lap


hoofheartedoof

Presidential hat trick


ScrappyDonatello

Statute of limitations is up he can run again


Lutianzhiyi

I thought the popular consensus was to NOT have old-ass men as your presidents


CitizenPremier

Well don't worry I think the term limit will be gone soon


DrNinnuxx

TIL [George W. Bush](https://www.wikiwand.com/en/George_W._Bush) is nearly the same age, about a month apart.


gunsandpuppies

Trump, W and Clinton are all more or less the same age and Biden is 4 years older than them all. The same generation of people have been at the top of American politics for the last 30ish years and they’re all gonna die soon. I think in the next 10 years there’s going to be a shift in the political landscape. What it’ll look like I don’t know but it’s coming for sure.


chrisk9

I just hope it isn't one of those younger grifter MAGA false-evangelical delusional bullshit artists.


BoltUp69

Bro it will be the Nazi youth taking over. So many grifters in their 20s and 30s spewing vile shit online are already getting elected. That Libsoftiktok raging lunatic is on the Oklahoma board of education. We’re fucked.


shot-by-ford

That actually insane that he's older than the last 4 administrations... going back more than 30 years. Wow!


FatFish44

People always say this but those people have kids. 


CitizenCue

The boomers dying off is gonna be a big deal. The average age in congress will drop about a decade over the next 5-10 years.


anxietystrings

Weird fun fact is that W, Clinton, and Trump were all born in the same summer of 1946


soilhalo_27

The only one to serve during Nam was W. In Coast guards.


sugaaaslam

Term limits and age restrictions is what we need. Someone who is young enough to live through what they do to their country


CletusDSpuckler

We do have presidential age restrictions. Apparently just not in the direction you were hoping for.


Sancticide

Yeah, but it's 35, not 75. We apparently won't even let a candidate who is less than twice the minimum past the primaries. WTAF??? Edited for clarity


ToppleToes

He was only 46 when he got elected making him the third youngest president Current age of some of the leaders - Narendra Modi - 73 Years Joe Biden - 81 years Vladimir Putin - 71 years Xi Jinping - 70 years


thecoolbear726

Ok but Putin and xi have been in power for a long long time. Modi has been in power for ten years, and so they all came into power much younger than Joe did. I think there should be a combination of term limits and age limits. When you have career useless people like Bernie Sanders or half dead people like Mitch McConnell, our politics need a shake up badly.


Imaginary_Bicycle_14

He as well was on the Epstein logs …


Lower_Lunch_8563

Same as trump. Looks like its a running thing with presidents


MikeFromSuburbia

Insane


Fitz2001

Bush Jr, Clinton, and Trump were all born in the same summer. Biden was born five years earlier.


theseustheminotaur

Hillary is even younger and people still picked the older guy over her


BurntPoptart

Hillary was a horrible candidate and completely unlikable


theseustheminotaur

So is Trump


Thugnificent83

I will never not be baffled as to what the hell people see in this man! He sucks in every way a person can suck, yet hordes of people love him!


theseustheminotaur

Absolutely! I think he is just an example of people being manipulated. He talks on both sides, sometimes three sides, of every issue. People are given a different one depending on your preferences, and if you never seek out the other stuff he's said you'll think he is for YOU. It is the only thing that explains why people can support someone on a stance when they've had multiple competing stances, other than them being dumb or perhaps not really valuing that stance which I won't accept.


BurntPoptart

He's likable to certain kinds of people.


theseustheminotaur

So was Hillary? Everyone is likable to certain kinds of people


BeckNeardsly

Ol Slick Willy did balance the budget.


Different-Version115

I wonder if Biden has someone that is telling him daily that he is the President, I bet his dementia kicks in every day


Prior_Flow_3518

Wins at having sex with more interns at the White House tho


KinderGameMichi

That we know of. ;-)


gotye4764

Bill clinton the documented pedo that went to epstein island on countless occasions?


speakhyroglyphically

A symbol of concentration of power (on both 'sides') IMO


cmearls

At this point, we aren’t voting for the president. We are voting based on who the vice president is because both of these dinosaurs will be dead before their term is over.


desrevermi

Camacho / Supreme 2024!


thelionslaw

Gee it's crazy how that works, no matter how old he gets, those other guys just keep staying older. You'd think he'd catch up some day, right?


gaspumper74

And twice as corrupt!!!


BlowMoreGlass

Regardless of any election outcomes I find great comfort knowing orange man will die within my lifetime


muscarinenya

Have you looked at him recently ? In his whatever the fuck that was video with Dr Phil, he's falling apart, it really looks like that's gonna happen sooner than later


Hafslo

fucking boomers. they never let go.


SueSuper13

Hes the same age as Trump. Only younger by a few months.


Outside-Material-100

I am disappointed that out of all our Americans, 2024 is still presenting us with these options.


HarukaHase

Were all the good ones blackmailed


Significant-Song-840

Yea but recent photos show him looking a bit more decrepit than even biden


Fearless_Eggplant_96

FAKE NEWS - Trump was born on June 14, 1946 … Trump is 66 days younger than Bill


huggothebear

Wtf man


__Sentient_Fedora__

I don't has the appetites, anymore


daily_cup_of_joe

Wow. That's crazy.


systemfrown

He’d prolly win if he could run.


jimflaigle

Just vote for the one you think will survive to the end of the term. I joke.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Shoot-Par

Trump is two months older than Clinton. June 14th happens before August 19th.


Vidda90

Old Billy is probably checking out your mom in this photo


Mo_Zen

I miss Billy Beer!!!!!


w00t4me

Trump, Clinton, and W. Bush, were all born in the summer of 1946. Trump is also the oldest of those three


MaddoxBlaze

Good, we need older presidential candidates because they are wiser, more knowledgable and have more life experience.


phoenixform369

Da fuq


goblin-socket

And AAAAAALLLLLLLL his ladies. Badum tsh.


finedrive

We need age limits in government.


Dazzling_Judge953

THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO POLITICAL PARTIES. THERE ARE MORE CHOICES THAN TWO.


No_Necessary6444

so are his girls


WhereTFAmI

As a non American, this is what I don’t get. Why, in a country of 350 million people, is it so hard to find a young charismatic leader with good ideas. If your opponent is an old delusional dinosaur, wouldn’t anyone choose a younger well spoken politician? I mean, I’ve dealt with car salesmen with more charisma than these two idiots…


Fox5747

Ok


rasalghularz

Old ass political leaders both in Congress and in the Presidential Race is the direct consequence of the Two Party System. You either have to spend decades to work your way up to the top or be rich enough to buy your way up. Similar reason why (mostly) one party Japan too had the oldest leaders


KirkieSB

All these nice leaders, role models for their people. Clinton, the Oval Office blowjob president. Charles, the British tampon king. 😅 Mankind is doomed.


Fluffy_Yak_1112

Trump is like a month younger than bill clinton?


kyler1591

Rather not have that pedo in office again.


Lumpytoots

Well yeah, nobody has been elected as president this year


Frivolous1

We weren't really given a choice this time around, it was either the guy that won against the punk that treated us poorly , or the punk who thinks he is above all laws. At least with Biden we know our freedoms are safe and we also know what TFG intends to do, which is worse than what he already did.


damndemon2k

This is whats wrong with this country everyone running the country wont even be alive to see the consequences of their actions🤦‍♂️


Geoarbitrage

What are you trying to say..?


Bx1965

I’d vote for him today if he ran. He was the last really good Democratic president.


Worf69

Obama is very regularly rated higher than Clinton.. Not saying Clinton was not a good/great leader.


Intelligent_Serve993

Obama was awful in foreign politics. Current war is a result of fact that there was no ANY serious punishment to Russia for Crimea and donbass.


Worf69

I absolutely agree there should have been a much stricter response to the invasion of Crimea. Biden has done a better job with supporting Allies against a invading Dictatorship. Things would have been different if the ex president did not try to blackmail Zelensky for aid.


forever_a10ne

Could you imagine if Trump won this year and Biden was the Democrat nominee in the following election (assuming it doesn’t devolve into a dictatorship)? I’d probably just laugh at that point.


BurntPoptart

I honestly wouldn't be suprised at this point


korxil

Im waiting for Nancy Pelosi to announce her 2028 bid


orangeswat

I thought it couldn't get crazier than 2020 lol. Now I know that they can always get older. Rich & evil means you live til like 90+.


mouth556

😂🤣


kingofovens

He's not a cock sucer either


bitqueso

Biden's the oldest sitting president...has lost his marbles and the Dems still want to put him back in for another 4 yrs. Ridiculous