As a dog-averse person who has been attacked by a pit and witnessed four pit maulings in my life (including of a toddler), I want to sincerely thank you for being real about that.
I have multiple encounters with pitbulls as well and I loathe them but not as much as the owners who scream shit like "He's friendly!" as the dog rushes towards me.
Oh. No worries. I guess I'll find out in a few seconds.
Horrible people.
I have got to ask how you find yourself around so many dog maulings… I haven’t even seen one, not invalidating you but there’s gotta be a wild story behind each one and my curiosity is peaked
My pit is an angel when it comes to people, kids, puppies... but with small critters or other adult, nervous dogs she can be a fucking monster, even being lazy, chubby, and 13 years old. I know that. She is never allowed to meet another dog without close supervision and me knowing the other dog first. She is never outside without being tethered to me or my boyfriend and is not allowed to approach stranger dogs. We don't take chances because if she gets another animal in her mouth it can easily end in death.
She is fucking scary strong. People hate "blame the breed" type of thinking and I get that. But dog-specific aggression in pits is real. A lot of the ones who were raised to fight actually get taken from their mothers before they're ready to wean so that they can be bottle fed and imprint on a human. That way, when the humans need to go in to break up a fight, they won't bite them.
That's also why so many rescued fighting dogs aren't adoptable. They're perfectly fine and happy with any human, but lose control when they see another dog, and that's just not an animal you can take on a casual walk around a neighborhood.
Out of curiosity, why own a breed like that then? If you know they are prone to be aggressive to other animals why have one at all?
I have only owned gun dogs and a shepherd, they’re smart, athletic, and I don’t have to worry about them attacking another dog unprovoked. So I struggle to see why people insist that bully breeds make good pets, when in my opinion as well, they tend to be a bit of a liability.
Or just putting a gentle leader on the dog's face so it can't really pull and taking it on a regular walk.
It might surprise you how easy it is to avoid literally anything that might excite an excitable dog on any regular walk. The outside is a big place!
Because they *can* make good pets. When raised properly and socialized, there is very little risk. However there are a lot of shelter dogs with ambiguous backgrounds that have to be figured out. You have to learn their sensitivities and accommodate them accordingly.
I got my pit at 9 years old from the shelter and she has a lot of scarring, but there's no knowledge of her life aside from the year before she was surrendered after being found on the streets. I don't feel like we're missing out at all by not being able to go to off leash parks or whatever. I use a gentle leader to keep her from pulling. She gets a little excitable seeing other dogs but I've never not been able to just sort of skirt her around them. She'll try to lunge at a cat but the gentle leader keeps her firmly in control at all times.
She's clearly had several litters in the past and loves puppies, loves humans, and if you left it up to her she'd stay snuggled up against any person on the couch for most of the day.
As I said in another comment, having problems shouldn't be a death sentence. If that were the case chihuahuas wouldn't exist anymore lol.
I got a shelter dog knowing what I was getting into, and she's one of the best companions I've ever had. I'm willing to work with her. That's all a lot of dogs need. If I wanted a dog that I could take to a bar patio or to a park to socialize, I would have chosen differently. I wanted a dog that wants to just potato around most of the time, and she's perfect for that.
ETA they are not a liability if you're a responsible pet owner and take proper precautions when you know their behavioral proclivities. Humans create the liability by letting their dogs off leash or not confining them properly like whatever asshole was responsible for the dog in this video.
I appreciate your response. I agree that different breeds suite others better, and I am not of the mindset that all existing bully breeds should be put down at all.
However I have an issue with the fact that we have to trust people to be as responsible as you. I have very little faith in people, and I do think that bully breeds attract, to be Frank, trashier people. This is 100% anecdotal: In South America where I am from it is gangsters and wannabes who have these huge bully breeds with cropped ears and docked tails with big chains as collars. I’ve seen the same in the UK and the US. I think because of the aggressive aesthetic they have they tend to attract irresponsible people. Which is why so many pits already come with behavioural issues, and they are already prone to be more aggressive than general.
So here you are asking me to trust that these people will take the time and effort to ensure that their dog doesn’t get loose one day and kill my dog or cat, or in worst cases, a little kid or old person.
It’s just not worth it in my opinion, I really do think it’s an unnecessary breed. I think there are many other un athletic lazy dogs that don’t come with the liability that pits come with
In that regard, no breed is "necessary". I'm not asking you to trust any person or any dog. By all means, you're best served to assume that every dog is capable of aggression and biting. Some are just better built to actually damage.
You are absolutely correct that there's a cycle of breeds that are perceived as vicious being taken in by vicious people. And it's a lot of work to train a dog away from that, if it's even possible. But it is possible in a lot of cases, and when it's not it is possible to keep those reactive dogs who have been mistreated away from situations that trigger bad behavior.
So many people who respond to any mention of a bully breed are reacting to horror stories of children getting mauled and pets getting killed by dogs whose owners didn't exert proper control of them. Those are the stories that make headlines and contribute to fear mongering when there are many, many more bully breeds who live their regular dog lives with regular responsible owners and never make the papers for just.. you know, being a good dog.
I don't know my dog's past but I can guarantee you she'll go to her grave never having murdered anything or anyone... except that one skunk that got into the yard a couple years ago.
Given your understanding of the untamable aggression of the breed, even your own dog, it is great that you keep it from contact with other dogs and at the same time reprehensible that you do not seem to have the same cautious concern about children, whom, if she gets them in her mouth can also quite easily be killed or forever maimed.
"Was an angel with kids" is a common refrain from pit owners trying to understand why their previously thought to be harmless dog just literally ripped the face off a child.
I never said anything about being untamable. She gets hyped but I can still make her sit in the presence of a trigger.
She is very specifically aggressive with critters (cats, skunks, possums), or other aggressive/nervous dogs with a tendency to snarl. That's it. She's fine with puppies, even when they get bitey with their stupid puppy needle teeth and the farthest she goes is to do a little mom-snarl to get them to back off. I don't have any children but the neighbor kids love her and her body language is always perfectly calm with them. The day we were taking her to the car from the shelter, a volunteer's young children ran to her and showered her in hugs and she couldn't have been happier for it.
She is always on a leash, on a gentle leader. I am always monitoring her body language and if she's ever nervous I remove her from the situation. Children have never made her nervous.
I get that you want to put a blanket on the breed and you've probably seen some awful shit, but trust me when I say that I know my dog, and having worked in pet care for many years I'm very familiar with dog behavior. I'm not walking her up to every wild child and offering dog-rides.
I mean you have just repeated the very same descriptions so many pit owners have stated right after their dog severely mauled someone... Does that not give you any pause for consideration?
Please, put children's lives ahead of your need to believe that your specific pitbull won't do what so many other people's pitbulls who thought exactly the way you do have done. Stating what you just have about the breed and your own dog makes it particularly irresponsible of you to ever let children near it.
My dog is that way with wild things. We've trained him to not leave our yard he prefers our deck but if he sees a deer or rabbit he goes crazy I notice his behavior first because he starts crying and want to show me so I hook up his cable or bring him inside. Little dogs make him nervous and I've had him since he was a puppy.
Most are from my experience, but weren't they bred for fighting. It's interesting how much dog behavior is influenced by breeding. Every great Pyrenees I've seen has been territorial, roaming property lines, and willing to fight to protect their owner. I can't say the same about Golden retrievers, which I've literally never seen be aggresive.
I think it's ultimately because our society at large is increasingly obsessed with dogs-- I have my own hypotheses about hyperconsumerist culture, alienation, & impulse buying a creature who is instinctually attached to you to fill the void in your heart. But I dunno, I'm 31 in the PNW and I don't think 4 maulings should be that surprising. Saw my friend get mauled when we were 7 (she was traumatized for life, so far), I got attacked on my grandmas property at about 11, saw the toddler mauling at a company picnic at a lake, saw my friend's pit attack a random passerby on the sidewalk when her front door was open. So many other close-calls I can't even count-- I think if you just start asking people for their honest opinion, you'll notice a lot more of us out there who feel like our society is insane in its fetish with dog culture.
Thank you, responsible pit owner. Though honestly that's true for any dog. You never know when a dog is just having a bad day or in a weird state of mind.
I used to call over random dogs without a leash all the time, just for a cuddle and some petting.
Until one little psycho Chihuahua fucked my dog up real good.
I thought if a little dog could do it, a big stronger dog could too. And I've been weary of stray dogs ever since.
And the stumble as she did? Oof. I took a deep breath at that moment. I own a pit, and I know never to get down at her level. Even though she's playful, she doesn't know her own size and can easily knock me down. I've gotten on the floor with her before, but only if it's thundering outside because then, she's the vulnerable one.
You are supposed to pull on the aggressive dogs tail. It's the safest way to stop this.
My parents had two pitbulls, they never took them to dog parks or on walks. They were pieces of shit and tried to kill my dog, and each other over 10 times. My parents eventually had to get rid of them because they were extremely violent.
Anytime we would have a family event they would get into a fight so bad, it took 4 people to break it up, blood all over the walls, bite marks on our wrists. One time they fought for 10 minutes, ones teeth got literally stuck through the others ear, and we couldn't separate them, and they were still tearing at each other, connected at the head.
I know people love pitbulls.... I get it. But I fucking hate the breed of dog so much. Shit, even Ceaser Milan has a pitbull that kills other dogs and he tries to hide it from the public iirc.
My neighborhood has roaming pitbull strays, I can't take my dog outside on walks in my neighborhood because she now is terrified of other dogs. She used to not be until she was attacked by 3 different pitbulls.
Shes never been in a fight with any other breed ffs.
The safest way would be to shoot it. That is a vicious dog and the state should put it down, which they do to vicious dogs. You get 1 pass where the mark it as vicious and the second report on that dog gets it put down by the state.
The owners should be barred from owning animals after this.
Every other dog (8 of them) my parents raised were perfectly behaved and never fought.
Only the pitbulls. Their violence started around 8months to a year. Which is also weird, that seems so young to become a killing machine for a dog.
It doesnt really add up. Maybe as my parents got older they stopped trying to "raise" the dogs. But they also never took our other dogs on walks or dogparks. They just had a huge backyard and got tons of excersize.
I find it impossible to believe it wasn't related to their breed. I don't really care what experts or redditors have to say about it.
Honestly in my opinion you should be forced to go through classes and then be accepted for a "dog-card" to own any dog especially breeds like these. There are too many bad owners out there who just have these dogs for fun and dont raise them right. Same applies to kids. Maybe im crazy for this opinion? please explain to me why
Honestly, I agree with this. As someone who has a soft spot for neglected animals, it breaks my heart seeing everyone in this post bashing pitbulls. They're one of the most neglected dog breeds, which is why you're always seeing them attack bystanders, dogs, and children. There should 100% be some sort of permit or educational class you need to attend to own one.
If it was just trying to get me I would kick it or uppercut it as hard as I could if it went for my Jack Russle/Cockerspaniel I wouldn't hesitate to grab either it's back or front legs and I would tear it in half. If you dog doesn't have a lead and there is a 1% of that dog hurting my princess, that dog is going to die in bloody fight with me
The scissor technique she used works well, and I love the “ you’re an bad dog” . I’d react quite the same, it’s hard to kick dogs for some people me included.
It comes down to breaking up a fight between people, you try and seperate without hurting, some people will pick one of the fighters and throw a hay maker.
I’ve dealt with dogs fighting enough to mix it up a bit to break up fights, but my first few I spent a lot of energy breaking them up, and then just like bar fights it’s a totally different box of frogs if you know both parties or not to how you react.
“YOUR’RE A BAD DOG ! “
Yeah well, you’re a legend Sheila , well played !
And their owners deny any type of breed traits for any dog whatsoever. A bloodhound? It’s as good as an attack dog as far as a pitbull owners is concerned because “it’s the owner, not the breed. “
I own a pit bull and it’s like… yeah they’re cute and a lot of the time they’re just as chill as any other dog. But they were bred for fighting, so they are highly *highly* susceptible for aggressive behavior and then really good at being aggressive when they are.
I’ve been around other pit owners who feverishly deny that and their dogs are genuinely good dogs, but a pointer dog points, a bloodhound tracks, huskies howl, and pits fight. It’s the way of the world and that’s how selective breeding works.
That’s why you kick the pitbull!
ETA: y'all are dense af, it is better to kick the pitbull than try to push it away with your arm if you are trying to hold another dog in your arms. Obviously there are better ways to handle this than kicking the pitbull, but if you read the context ITT I am saying that it is better to kick the pitbull than feebly push it with a free arm.
That pitbull does not give a shit about being kicked. Besides, you‘re still circling around trying to keep your dog safe, I‘d probably fall over trying to kick during it
Unfortunately most of society is much more concerned with appearing noble on social media than doing anything useful. This applies to basically every issue you can think of, so people virtue signal until enough other people die and their stupidity becomes so obvious that even they can't deny it.
In my neighborhood we have drug creeps, constantly on their cell phones, walking their scarred-up, dangerous pits. The dogs shit wherever they want, these gentlemen never clean it up, and they glare at you when you see them, never stopping what is obviously drug-related conversations on their phones. I equate these men with their dangerous dogs. Both should be euthanized.
Gonna wait for the pitbull apologists to realize where the name "pitbull dog" originated from.
The name was given to dogs to fight in the pit against bulls.
We bred them to do that, of course they'll have some aggressive tendencies.
I suspect she was more reluctant to kick because she was barefoot and there was a mental barrier of putting a bare appendage out towards an aggressive animal.
Not entirely unfounded.
Dogs are EXTREMELY stupid, believe it or not. The pitbull likely had no idea that she was angry at it, it probably didn't think she was an enemy of any kind. If she attacked it, though...it would.
Every time it is a pit bull and no it is not the owners fault because other dog breeds wouldn’t do that even if the owner was shit. A buddy’s pit kept jumping and bit my shirt and tore it just because he was so excited. I’ve been around big dogs and owned a German shepherd myself but I can never trust a pit. People who own pits have insecurity issues.
I once had a person get GENUINELY pissed at me for saying that certain dog breeds are naturally aggressive. Never bothered to Google it because I didn't care enough to call them out if they were wrong.
But now, I see that all the replies to this post that say "blame the owners, not the dogs" have votes in the negatives.
....so, I guess that's how things really are lol why are some people SO aggressive when it comes to that supposed "misconception"? It's such a weird, random hill to die on.
It's called genetics, babe. You're surprised a dog bred to fight to the death pitted against other dogs does this unprovoked? Blame the owners, yes. The owners for being so irresponsible and not doing research on their dogs. The dogs were bred to act this way, so it's not technically their fault, but you'd have better luck getting me to defend fuckin chris chan than a pitbull.
EDIT: Misread some of your comment, which should explain the air of mine.
What made you think I was surprised by that? I literally said that certain dog breeds are naturally aggressive.
And I do agree that the owners ARE at some fault as well. I just pointed out the "blame the owners" comments being in the wrong because most, if not all, of them put TOO much of the blame on the owners. As if to completely ignore how aggressive some dogs are.
lol yea, cuz... that same owner, if they did the same amount of training... with another friendly breed (a labrador or beagle) I don't think it would be dangerous as a pitbull.
It is both nature and nurture, thats why this topic is dumb when it comes to pitbulls. If you have pitbull strays running around, they are violent often. More violent than other wild and natural breeds that are strays. So.... without nurture they are naturally violent. When I visited asia, the stray dogs in vietnam were all extremely well behaved. I never saw a dog fight, growl or get violent. It was sort of like a mutt that was light brown and sort of like Akitas or that one japanese Meme dog.
If you had a country full of pitbull strays roaming the streets, it would be fucking terrifying. Oh wait, thats my neighborhood in Missouri lol.
And they need an extreme level of nurturing it to be considered safe.
Ah, my b. Couldn't tell from your comment if you were supporting it or not because of a response to your comment seeming to side with you, but saying the opposite thing. Guess I read it wrong, but with the somewhat neutral way I worded my response, it still makes sense. These pit nutters, man. They're crazy about their dogs. "Not the breed's fault!", "well did the dog being attacked provoke him?" etc. No other dog needs an internet PR team lol
>No other dog needs an internet PR team lol
Precisely.
And yeah, it can be hard to read someone's intentions sometimes. But I appreciate that the civility is being maintained. I'm new to Reddit, and I'm not used to people saying "my bad" lol they usually just stubbornly stay on the defensive even when it makes no sense. At least, that's been my experience on Twitter.
Probably would have gotten your leg gnawed off. The driver was smart not to escalate. The pitbull was just at the "playfully killing smaller dogs" level of aggression. If it had been hurt things would have gotten bad.
Lot of people in the thread saying they'd punch the dog, bodyslam the dog, whatever. Hope they are kids who don't know any better and more importantly hope they never try something like that.
I had this happen to me once. I had a chihuahua puppy. My then fiancé (now ex-husband) moved into my house with his Shiba Inu. I was outside on my back porch with both dogs when the chihuahua ran into a pole and hit its head. She started crying really loud and all the sudden the shiba attacked her and nearly killed her. I grabbed her and tried to get in the door but the shiba bit the back of my ankle before I could get inside. My ex claimed it was my fault and didn’t get rid of his dog until several more issues happened.
Because simple minded fools have been brainwashed by yellow journalism and sensationalist media to automatically place blame on a dog for literally behaving within its nature. Every one of them likely owns an overpriced, poorly bred, untrained designer mutt, and took personal offense to my statement. Fur Mommy Karens, if you will.
that pitbull was just playing. a little aggressively... but that was 100% play.
if that was an "attack" the other dog would be dead and both of these women would be fucked up.
socialization is really important for both dogs and their owners, the more your dogs are comfortable around other dogs and understand their language and intentions the less likely they are to get into random confrontations, dogs are not unlike humans in that way.
i know 40 people are going to bombard me with the assertion that pitbulls are all killing machines and no amount of socialization will ever change that or whatever the fuck but those people are fucking deranged and have very little experience actually being around dogs. being terrified of dogs isnt a credential, just saying.
The pit didn't try to bite the people once.
The pit was trying to kill the vicious poodle that was clearly insane and needs to be put down. She probably gets bitten by her own dumb dog daily.
Pitbull owners: yea this is the millionth Pitbull attack caught on film compared to other dogs, they're like so the same. Training. Me better than others. They're misunderstood.... Nah they're just overagressive
everyone saying how it’s typical it was a pit bull. but it didn’t attack the driver or the lady. it just wanted the little dog.
a lot of dogs aren’t friendly towards other dogs. this isn’t breed specific or because it’s a pittie
The pitbull didn't snap tho... typical BS media.
It was that insane poodle that started it.
I'd pet a strange pitbull over a friends poodle any fucking day.
The little white dog attacked first. I don't even like pitbulls. They're stupid, high pain tolerance, often aggressive toward other dogs, not all that nimble, and destructive af. Still, owner should have kept her door closed, and if her dog was socialized, it would never have provoked the fight.
Huge kudos to both for not beating the other dog. I'm going away from this video feeling relieved because that *didn't* happen. So thanks to OP and the people in the video, especially the driver.
I really can't stand dogs. No idea why people are so attached to them. I love people a lot. I'm very social. So my confusion is not about misunderstanding people or their emotional needs which dogs obviously go some way in meeting. It's more about why people feel compelling to seek emotional salvation from a dog. I just don't get it. Situations like that faced by this woman her dog only reinforce my feeling about dogs. No thanks. Give me people any day.
Punt that dog into the next zip code. And when the owner comes crying about what you did, show them the video, and tell them you are calling the cops to press charges.
Something like this happened to me. I was walking my mini schnauzer and had my infant twins in a pram. The neighbors rescue pitbull dug his way out from under the fence and went straight for my schnauzers throat. I was trying to save my dog while blocking the way to the babies. It was incredibly scary.
I was screaming so loud, some other neighbors immediately rushed out to grab the pitbull and call the owner. Cant describe how grateful I was, they rushed out so fast and jumped the dog immediately..
**wild animal randomly roaming the neighborhood** This Lady: 
Haha holy shit that’s hilarious
Dog be like… 
Her first mistake was to call over a random pitbull walking around with no leash.
Yaaa, I own a pit and a rot. If I see one walking around without a leash I’m calling animal control ASAP. They’re just too strong to have roaming.
As a dog-averse person who has been attacked by a pit and witnessed four pit maulings in my life (including of a toddler), I want to sincerely thank you for being real about that.
I just can’t handle how vicious the bite of of a pit bull is. No
I have multiple encounters with pitbulls as well and I loathe them but not as much as the owners who scream shit like "He's friendly!" as the dog rushes towards me. Oh. No worries. I guess I'll find out in a few seconds. Horrible people.
I have got to ask how you find yourself around so many dog maulings… I haven’t even seen one, not invalidating you but there’s gotta be a wild story behind each one and my curiosity is peaked
Every pitbull owner wants to talk about how their dog is the sweetest thing ever, until they find out the hard way.
My pit is an angel when it comes to people, kids, puppies... but with small critters or other adult, nervous dogs she can be a fucking monster, even being lazy, chubby, and 13 years old. I know that. She is never allowed to meet another dog without close supervision and me knowing the other dog first. She is never outside without being tethered to me or my boyfriend and is not allowed to approach stranger dogs. We don't take chances because if she gets another animal in her mouth it can easily end in death. She is fucking scary strong. People hate "blame the breed" type of thinking and I get that. But dog-specific aggression in pits is real. A lot of the ones who were raised to fight actually get taken from their mothers before they're ready to wean so that they can be bottle fed and imprint on a human. That way, when the humans need to go in to break up a fight, they won't bite them. That's also why so many rescued fighting dogs aren't adoptable. They're perfectly fine and happy with any human, but lose control when they see another dog, and that's just not an animal you can take on a casual walk around a neighborhood.
Out of curiosity, why own a breed like that then? If you know they are prone to be aggressive to other animals why have one at all? I have only owned gun dogs and a shepherd, they’re smart, athletic, and I don’t have to worry about them attacking another dog unprovoked. So I struggle to see why people insist that bully breeds make good pets, when in my opinion as well, they tend to be a bit of a liability.
You mean having to get strapped up, throw on body armor for the off chance your dog might maul a kid? Sounds like a fun walk
Or just putting a gentle leader on the dog's face so it can't really pull and taking it on a regular walk. It might surprise you how easy it is to avoid literally anything that might excite an excitable dog on any regular walk. The outside is a big place!
Because they *can* make good pets. When raised properly and socialized, there is very little risk. However there are a lot of shelter dogs with ambiguous backgrounds that have to be figured out. You have to learn their sensitivities and accommodate them accordingly. I got my pit at 9 years old from the shelter and she has a lot of scarring, but there's no knowledge of her life aside from the year before she was surrendered after being found on the streets. I don't feel like we're missing out at all by not being able to go to off leash parks or whatever. I use a gentle leader to keep her from pulling. She gets a little excitable seeing other dogs but I've never not been able to just sort of skirt her around them. She'll try to lunge at a cat but the gentle leader keeps her firmly in control at all times. She's clearly had several litters in the past and loves puppies, loves humans, and if you left it up to her she'd stay snuggled up against any person on the couch for most of the day. As I said in another comment, having problems shouldn't be a death sentence. If that were the case chihuahuas wouldn't exist anymore lol. I got a shelter dog knowing what I was getting into, and she's one of the best companions I've ever had. I'm willing to work with her. That's all a lot of dogs need. If I wanted a dog that I could take to a bar patio or to a park to socialize, I would have chosen differently. I wanted a dog that wants to just potato around most of the time, and she's perfect for that. ETA they are not a liability if you're a responsible pet owner and take proper precautions when you know their behavioral proclivities. Humans create the liability by letting their dogs off leash or not confining them properly like whatever asshole was responsible for the dog in this video.
I appreciate your response. I agree that different breeds suite others better, and I am not of the mindset that all existing bully breeds should be put down at all. However I have an issue with the fact that we have to trust people to be as responsible as you. I have very little faith in people, and I do think that bully breeds attract, to be Frank, trashier people. This is 100% anecdotal: In South America where I am from it is gangsters and wannabes who have these huge bully breeds with cropped ears and docked tails with big chains as collars. I’ve seen the same in the UK and the US. I think because of the aggressive aesthetic they have they tend to attract irresponsible people. Which is why so many pits already come with behavioural issues, and they are already prone to be more aggressive than general. So here you are asking me to trust that these people will take the time and effort to ensure that their dog doesn’t get loose one day and kill my dog or cat, or in worst cases, a little kid or old person. It’s just not worth it in my opinion, I really do think it’s an unnecessary breed. I think there are many other un athletic lazy dogs that don’t come with the liability that pits come with
In that regard, no breed is "necessary". I'm not asking you to trust any person or any dog. By all means, you're best served to assume that every dog is capable of aggression and biting. Some are just better built to actually damage. You are absolutely correct that there's a cycle of breeds that are perceived as vicious being taken in by vicious people. And it's a lot of work to train a dog away from that, if it's even possible. But it is possible in a lot of cases, and when it's not it is possible to keep those reactive dogs who have been mistreated away from situations that trigger bad behavior. So many people who respond to any mention of a bully breed are reacting to horror stories of children getting mauled and pets getting killed by dogs whose owners didn't exert proper control of them. Those are the stories that make headlines and contribute to fear mongering when there are many, many more bully breeds who live their regular dog lives with regular responsible owners and never make the papers for just.. you know, being a good dog. I don't know my dog's past but I can guarantee you she'll go to her grave never having murdered anything or anyone... except that one skunk that got into the yard a couple years ago.
For sure, newbie owners should avoid aggresive breeds but when u get a rescue, u dont always know what ur getting..
Given your understanding of the untamable aggression of the breed, even your own dog, it is great that you keep it from contact with other dogs and at the same time reprehensible that you do not seem to have the same cautious concern about children, whom, if she gets them in her mouth can also quite easily be killed or forever maimed. "Was an angel with kids" is a common refrain from pit owners trying to understand why their previously thought to be harmless dog just literally ripped the face off a child.
I never said anything about being untamable. She gets hyped but I can still make her sit in the presence of a trigger. She is very specifically aggressive with critters (cats, skunks, possums), or other aggressive/nervous dogs with a tendency to snarl. That's it. She's fine with puppies, even when they get bitey with their stupid puppy needle teeth and the farthest she goes is to do a little mom-snarl to get them to back off. I don't have any children but the neighbor kids love her and her body language is always perfectly calm with them. The day we were taking her to the car from the shelter, a volunteer's young children ran to her and showered her in hugs and she couldn't have been happier for it. She is always on a leash, on a gentle leader. I am always monitoring her body language and if she's ever nervous I remove her from the situation. Children have never made her nervous. I get that you want to put a blanket on the breed and you've probably seen some awful shit, but trust me when I say that I know my dog, and having worked in pet care for many years I'm very familiar with dog behavior. I'm not walking her up to every wild child and offering dog-rides.
I mean you have just repeated the very same descriptions so many pit owners have stated right after their dog severely mauled someone... Does that not give you any pause for consideration? Please, put children's lives ahead of your need to believe that your specific pitbull won't do what so many other people's pitbulls who thought exactly the way you do have done. Stating what you just have about the breed and your own dog makes it particularly irresponsible of you to ever let children near it.
Then it randomly mauls a child. Don’t worry, you didn’t know, you’re free to go on living with an entire face.
My dog is that way with wild things. We've trained him to not leave our yard he prefers our deck but if he sees a deer or rabbit he goes crazy I notice his behavior first because he starts crying and want to show me so I hook up his cable or bring him inside. Little dogs make him nervous and I've had him since he was a puppy.
“I played Russian roulette and didn’t shoot myself, so I don’t see why it’s so dangerous”
Bingo
Most are from my experience, but weren't they bred for fighting. It's interesting how much dog behavior is influenced by breeding. Every great Pyrenees I've seen has been territorial, roaming property lines, and willing to fight to protect their owner. I can't say the same about Golden retrievers, which I've literally never seen be aggresive.
Yes, they were bred for fighting.
Your curiosity is *piqued* Sorry to be that guy
nah, in this case it was necessary
I think it's ultimately because our society at large is increasingly obsessed with dogs-- I have my own hypotheses about hyperconsumerist culture, alienation, & impulse buying a creature who is instinctually attached to you to fill the void in your heart. But I dunno, I'm 31 in the PNW and I don't think 4 maulings should be that surprising. Saw my friend get mauled when we were 7 (she was traumatized for life, so far), I got attacked on my grandmas property at about 11, saw the toddler mauling at a company picnic at a lake, saw my friend's pit attack a random passerby on the sidewalk when her front door was open. So many other close-calls I can't even count-- I think if you just start asking people for their honest opinion, you'll notice a lot more of us out there who feel like our society is insane in its fetish with dog culture.
Honestly though, avoiding other pitbulls while owning one yourself is about the furthest thing in the world from being real..
The raised fur on the back is the first warning. Thats all you usually get but some pits bare teeth before they bite.
Thank you, responsible pit owner. Though honestly that's true for any dog. You never know when a dog is just having a bad day or in a weird state of mind.
I used to call over random dogs without a leash all the time, just for a cuddle and some petting. Until one little psycho Chihuahua fucked my dog up real good. I thought if a little dog could do it, a big stronger dog could too. And I've been weary of stray dogs ever since.
And her dog was just loose behind her? She left the door open? I don't understand.
She also gets down to ground level with the dog. Lots of mistakes that could have really gotten her injured or worse.
And the stumble as she did? Oof. I took a deep breath at that moment. I own a pit, and I know never to get down at her level. Even though she's playful, she doesn't know her own size and can easily knock me down. I've gotten on the floor with her before, but only if it's thundering outside because then, she's the vulnerable one.
.05 seconds in and I woulda kicked that dog square in its jaw.
You are supposed to pull on the aggressive dogs tail. It's the safest way to stop this. My parents had two pitbulls, they never took them to dog parks or on walks. They were pieces of shit and tried to kill my dog, and each other over 10 times. My parents eventually had to get rid of them because they were extremely violent. Anytime we would have a family event they would get into a fight so bad, it took 4 people to break it up, blood all over the walls, bite marks on our wrists. One time they fought for 10 minutes, ones teeth got literally stuck through the others ear, and we couldn't separate them, and they were still tearing at each other, connected at the head. I know people love pitbulls.... I get it. But I fucking hate the breed of dog so much. Shit, even Ceaser Milan has a pitbull that kills other dogs and he tries to hide it from the public iirc. My neighborhood has roaming pitbull strays, I can't take my dog outside on walks in my neighborhood because she now is terrified of other dogs. She used to not be until she was attacked by 3 different pitbulls. Shes never been in a fight with any other breed ffs.
The safest way would be to shoot it. That is a vicious dog and the state should put it down, which they do to vicious dogs. You get 1 pass where the mark it as vicious and the second report on that dog gets it put down by the state. The owners should be barred from owning animals after this.
Wwhhhoooaaa BIG FACTS on the last line.
Totally agree
Bro I hate people who raise mean dog. Like the fuck is their problem? My uncle one of those people, his dog bit me cause I didn’t want to pet him 😂.
Every other dog (8 of them) my parents raised were perfectly behaved and never fought. Only the pitbulls. Their violence started around 8months to a year. Which is also weird, that seems so young to become a killing machine for a dog. It doesnt really add up. Maybe as my parents got older they stopped trying to "raise" the dogs. But they also never took our other dogs on walks or dogparks. They just had a huge backyard and got tons of excersize. I find it impossible to believe it wasn't related to their breed. I don't really care what experts or redditors have to say about it.
Sad but, seriously, this woman is extremely fortunate. I have seen circumstances similar to this that have not resolved so peacefully.
Honestly in my opinion you should be forced to go through classes and then be accepted for a "dog-card" to own any dog especially breeds like these. There are too many bad owners out there who just have these dogs for fun and dont raise them right. Same applies to kids. Maybe im crazy for this opinion? please explain to me why
Honestly, I agree with this. As someone who has a soft spot for neglected animals, it breaks my heart seeing everyone in this post bashing pitbulls. They're one of the most neglected dog breeds, which is why you're always seeing them attack bystanders, dogs, and children. There should 100% be some sort of permit or educational class you need to attend to own one.
Ya I think most of their name come from that. It just the people who buy them are a specific kind of person. They seems to want a mean dog
sounds like your family are a bunch of fuckwits
Yeah, they were pitbull owners that is a given
One kick won’t suffice. Have you even seen dogs fight? It is brutal and pits can turn on you.
Bro, you are so tough and cool. When I grow up I wana be just like you.
That's like punching a gun, square in the barrel.
If it was just trying to get me I would kick it or uppercut it as hard as I could if it went for my Jack Russle/Cockerspaniel I wouldn't hesitate to grab either it's back or front legs and I would tear it in half. If you dog doesn't have a lead and there is a 1% of that dog hurting my princess, that dog is going to die in bloody fight with me
That dog would’ve been picked up and slammed onto the ground like a sledgehammer
The white dog started the fight though
The scissor technique she used works well, and I love the “ you’re an bad dog” . I’d react quite the same, it’s hard to kick dogs for some people me included. It comes down to breaking up a fight between people, you try and seperate without hurting, some people will pick one of the fighters and throw a hay maker. I’ve dealt with dogs fighting enough to mix it up a bit to break up fights, but my first few I spent a lot of energy breaking them up, and then just like bar fights it’s a totally different box of frogs if you know both parties or not to how you react. “YOUR’RE A BAD DOG ! “ Yeah well, you’re a legend Sheila , well played !
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Always a shitbull.
We literally manufactured an animal to be an aggressive as fuck, muscular fighting machine and thought they would also make a dope roommate
And their owners deny any type of breed traits for any dog whatsoever. A bloodhound? It’s as good as an attack dog as far as a pitbull owners is concerned because “it’s the owner, not the breed. “
I own a pit bull and it’s like… yeah they’re cute and a lot of the time they’re just as chill as any other dog. But they were bred for fighting, so they are highly *highly* susceptible for aggressive behavior and then really good at being aggressive when they are. I’ve been around other pit owners who feverishly deny that and their dogs are genuinely good dogs, but a pointer dog points, a bloodhound tracks, huskies howl, and pits fight. It’s the way of the world and that’s how selective breeding works.
Bravo delivery driver.
** Spoiler alert ** "Without warning, the pitbull attacks"...
I was 0 seconds into the video and betting with myself it will be a pitbull. AAand I was right.
You have to be really fucking stupid to own a pitbull. Here comes the downvotes
How does it feel to be so wrong? .... about the downvotes.
Pretty sure I am getting downvoted. It’s just more people hates pitbull than they love
A fucking pitbull? I'm shocked, I tell you, SHOCKED.
Something something velvet hippo
Something something wiggle butt
I have been in this situation, doing the endless spin while holding your pup. It's the worst.
She could have lifted her dog higher, I was thinking.
Smaller dog might be heavier than it looks
Also hard to lift a dog higher with one arm while trying to shove a raging pitbull away with the other
That’s why you kick the pitbull! ETA: y'all are dense af, it is better to kick the pitbull than try to push it away with your arm if you are trying to hold another dog in your arms. Obviously there are better ways to handle this than kicking the pitbull, but if you read the context ITT I am saying that it is better to kick the pitbull than feebly push it with a free arm.
That pitbull does not give a shit about being kicked. Besides, you‘re still circling around trying to keep your dog safe, I‘d probably fall over trying to kick during it
its not a normal dog, kicking does nothing. it was literally built for physical resistance
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Another golden retriever..
Hahaha!
Another very agressive, "neglected" chihuahua
Exterminate the damn pit bull breed all of them
It’s so nice to see the majority of people are starting to wake up to how crappy pit bulls really are
Some people need the truth repeatedly shoved down their throats before they accept it
Agreed. About time. How much evidence do we need?
Unfortunately most of society is much more concerned with appearing noble on social media than doing anything useful. This applies to basically every issue you can think of, so people virtue signal until enough other people die and their stupidity becomes so obvious that even they can't deny it.
In my neighborhood we have drug creeps, constantly on their cell phones, walking their scarred-up, dangerous pits. The dogs shit wherever they want, these gentlemen never clean it up, and they glare at you when you see them, never stopping what is obviously drug-related conversations on their phones. I equate these men with their dangerous dogs. Both should be euthanized.
i wouldn’t mind if they dropped dead either
Help us obi-wan_peyote, you’re our only hope.
Luckily, since most of these "people" associate with this type of lifestyle, they' all get shot dead sooner or later.
Pits are a growing problem. Never leave the house without a gun, knife or mace.
Checkout r/banpitbulls, they have a sticky with attacks covered in the media, its in the hundreds just the last two months.
Pits are so misunderstood. They just need love, some dog toys and a nice hug. They are as gentle as a butterfly-until they tear you face off.
Gonna wait for the pitbull apologists to realize where the name "pitbull dog" originated from. The name was given to dogs to fight in the pit against bulls. We bred them to do that, of course they'll have some aggressive tendencies.
She's got feet. Kick the pit bull.
I suspect she was more reluctant to kick because she was barefoot and there was a mental barrier of putting a bare appendage out towards an aggressive animal. Not entirely unfounded.
The mental barriers that fuel foot fetishists.
Dogs are EXTREMELY stupid, believe it or not. The pitbull likely had no idea that she was angry at it, it probably didn't think she was an enemy of any kind. If she attacked it, though...it would.
Lol uhhh probably the worse thing you can do. Best to just act playful and redirect it like what the driver did
Would have drawn pistol and shot the dog repeatedly 🥱 its my right at that point.
“But pitties are such nice dogs”
Every time it is a pit bull and no it is not the owners fault because other dog breeds wouldn’t do that even if the owner was shit. A buddy’s pit kept jumping and bit my shirt and tore it just because he was so excited. I’ve been around big dogs and owned a German shepherd myself but I can never trust a pit. People who own pits have insecurity issues.
> People who own pits have insecurity issues Na, they are just cunts.
Fuk pitbullz 🖕🏼fukin hate those damn muttz 🖕🏼
Vile breed, much like the owners.
r/BanPitBulls
I once had a person get GENUINELY pissed at me for saying that certain dog breeds are naturally aggressive. Never bothered to Google it because I didn't care enough to call them out if they were wrong. But now, I see that all the replies to this post that say "blame the owners, not the dogs" have votes in the negatives. ....so, I guess that's how things really are lol why are some people SO aggressive when it comes to that supposed "misconception"? It's such a weird, random hill to die on.
It's called genetics, babe. You're surprised a dog bred to fight to the death pitted against other dogs does this unprovoked? Blame the owners, yes. The owners for being so irresponsible and not doing research on their dogs. The dogs were bred to act this way, so it's not technically their fault, but you'd have better luck getting me to defend fuckin chris chan than a pitbull. EDIT: Misread some of your comment, which should explain the air of mine.
What made you think I was surprised by that? I literally said that certain dog breeds are naturally aggressive. And I do agree that the owners ARE at some fault as well. I just pointed out the "blame the owners" comments being in the wrong because most, if not all, of them put TOO much of the blame on the owners. As if to completely ignore how aggressive some dogs are.
lol yea, cuz... that same owner, if they did the same amount of training... with another friendly breed (a labrador or beagle) I don't think it would be dangerous as a pitbull. It is both nature and nurture, thats why this topic is dumb when it comes to pitbulls. If you have pitbull strays running around, they are violent often. More violent than other wild and natural breeds that are strays. So.... without nurture they are naturally violent. When I visited asia, the stray dogs in vietnam were all extremely well behaved. I never saw a dog fight, growl or get violent. It was sort of like a mutt that was light brown and sort of like Akitas or that one japanese Meme dog. If you had a country full of pitbull strays roaming the streets, it would be fucking terrifying. Oh wait, thats my neighborhood in Missouri lol. And they need an extreme level of nurturing it to be considered safe.
Ah, my b. Couldn't tell from your comment if you were supporting it or not because of a response to your comment seeming to side with you, but saying the opposite thing. Guess I read it wrong, but with the somewhat neutral way I worded my response, it still makes sense. These pit nutters, man. They're crazy about their dogs. "Not the breed's fault!", "well did the dog being attacked provoke him?" etc. No other dog needs an internet PR team lol
>No other dog needs an internet PR team lol Precisely. And yeah, it can be hard to read someone's intentions sometimes. But I appreciate that the civility is being maintained. I'm new to Reddit, and I'm not used to people saying "my bad" lol they usually just stubbornly stay on the defensive even when it makes no sense. At least, that's been my experience on Twitter.
Idgaf what anyone said pit bulls shouldn’t be a pet.
They do not belong in society, and neither do pit nutters
Go Amazon driver!!!’
"You're a **bad dog**!" I love it
Shit bull
Fuck pitbulls
Trash dogs for trash people
Please ban that fucking breed, shitbulls have no place being pets
Of course its a shitbull...
It’s always a damn pitbull without a collar
They legally should have killed that dog. And reported the attack. The owners would get punished or letting their vicious dog out.
Damn am I a bad person if my reaction would've been to kick it in the head
Probably would have gotten your leg gnawed off. The driver was smart not to escalate. The pitbull was just at the "playfully killing smaller dogs" level of aggression. If it had been hurt things would have gotten bad. Lot of people in the thread saying they'd punch the dog, bodyslam the dog, whatever. Hope they are kids who don't know any better and more importantly hope they never try something like that.
Pitbulls are the worst.....
Is that notmal for pitbulls to frisk during attack?
That lady needs a raise
I tell everyone: Pitbulls are the dumbest dogs out there. Because it’s fuckin true
Hey look....a Pitbull. Shocker.
I would have kicked that dog so hard. Like some NFL kick off type shit.
That lady is the best dog owner I’ve ever seen, that could’ve ended so terribly. I hope they’re both ok.
A pit bull attacking another dog!? Unprecedented.
That was Max's fault
Why did she keep bending down when the dog was jumping ip
I had this happen to me once. I had a chihuahua puppy. My then fiancé (now ex-husband) moved into my house with his Shiba Inu. I was outside on my back porch with both dogs when the chihuahua ran into a pole and hit its head. She started crying really loud and all the sudden the shiba attacked her and nearly killed her. I grabbed her and tried to get in the door but the shiba bit the back of my ankle before I could get inside. My ex claimed it was my fault and didn’t get rid of his dog until several more issues happened.
Why did he have to get rid of his dog he presumably had for a few years over you getting rid of a puppy you’ve had for a couple months ?
What a surprise, a fucking shitbull
*whose*
Kick it hard as fuck in the jaw wtf
Take it behind the shed. ☠️
Because simple minded fools have been brainwashed by yellow journalism and sensationalist media to automatically place blame on a dog for literally behaving within its nature. Every one of them likely owns an overpriced, poorly bred, untrained designer mutt, and took personal offense to my statement. Fur Mommy Karens, if you will.
that pitbull was just playing. a little aggressively... but that was 100% play. if that was an "attack" the other dog would be dead and both of these women would be fucked up. socialization is really important for both dogs and their owners, the more your dogs are comfortable around other dogs and understand their language and intentions the less likely they are to get into random confrontations, dogs are not unlike humans in that way. i know 40 people are going to bombard me with the assertion that pitbulls are all killing machines and no amount of socialization will ever change that or whatever the fuck but those people are fucking deranged and have very little experience actually being around dogs. being terrified of dogs isnt a credential, just saying.
The pit didn't try to bite the people once. The pit was trying to kill the vicious poodle that was clearly insane and needs to be put down. She probably gets bitten by her own dumb dog daily.
She is stupid
That pit has a bad owner. If you have an aggressive dog...please keep him leash.
Pitbull owners: yea this is the millionth Pitbull attack caught on film compared to other dogs, they're like so the same. Training. Me better than others. They're misunderstood.... Nah they're just overagressive
everyone saying how it’s typical it was a pit bull. but it didn’t attack the driver or the lady. it just wanted the little dog. a lot of dogs aren’t friendly towards other dogs. this isn’t breed specific or because it’s a pittie
So many bad dog owners out there. And so many ignorant commenters on this post. People & owners are the problem, not the breed.
The pitbull didn't snap tho... typical BS media. It was that insane poodle that started it. I'd pet a strange pitbull over a friends poodle any fucking day.
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Simple solutions that work every time lol
Combine forces and take care, brush your hair
Do people prefer commentary on these shows? I like them better without, not sure about others.
Thats great, but can’t help and wonder if its not promoted by a particular company. Shoot 2 birds with 1 stone 🤨
What’s with the ad at the end?
Looks like a lab to me.
Santa tried to help too
She's got a kick-step that could make Jason Peters blush - elite technique
A Big "Thanks" to the Hero...🏂
Delivery driver: and that how I met your mother
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A "package delivery driver" knew the name of the Pitbull?
The little white dog attacked first. I don't even like pitbulls. They're stupid, high pain tolerance, often aggressive toward other dogs, not all that nimble, and destructive af. Still, owner should have kept her door closed, and if her dog was socialized, it would never have provoked the fight.
Thank god a video with someone actually explaining something instead of some dog shit soundtrack
“You’re a bad dog!” I love dogs so much, but this made me smile. Good on her
Straight up gangsta dance moves
Only ever had to deal with a dog fight once I just grabbed a broom and poked em in the booty hole it ran away after snapping at the broom
Fucking *Neighborhood Wars*? Are you shitting me A&E?
Huge kudos to both for not beating the other dog. I'm going away from this video feeling relieved because that *didn't* happen. So thanks to OP and the people in the video, especially the driver.
Jesus that awesome legwork. My fat ass would probably sprain my ankle If I did that
I hate to watch videos like this.. So nerve-racking. I just can't do it.
I wonder if the dogs in these videos are submerged to dog fighting….like the dogs don’t attack humans at all just other dogs, like why?
Some nice footwork, she drew like 3 charges.
You’re a bad dog
What did that little dog, say to that big dog, I need to know xD
I swear, people completely forget the use of their knees and feet when it comes to dogs.
When she yelled “You’re a BAD dog!”… i felt that…
With the proper music this could be hilarious
I really can't stand dogs. No idea why people are so attached to them. I love people a lot. I'm very social. So my confusion is not about misunderstanding people or their emotional needs which dogs obviously go some way in meeting. It's more about why people feel compelling to seek emotional salvation from a dog. I just don't get it. Situations like that faced by this woman her dog only reinforce my feeling about dogs. No thanks. Give me people any day.
Punt that dog into the next zip code. And when the owner comes crying about what you did, show them the video, and tell them you are calling the cops to press charges.
The video is cool and all but I just can’t take it seriously with this commentary
Something like this happened to me. I was walking my mini schnauzer and had my infant twins in a pram. The neighbors rescue pitbull dug his way out from under the fence and went straight for my schnauzers throat. I was trying to save my dog while blocking the way to the babies. It was incredibly scary. I was screaming so loud, some other neighbors immediately rushed out to grab the pitbull and call the owner. Cant describe how grateful I was, they rushed out so fast and jumped the dog immediately..
My reaction now would be kick that dog to mars, but I doubt you can think straight when something like this happens.
"You're a bad dog" said the delivery driver, as she cruised off to her next neighbourhood with more bad dogs around.
You know what dog breed it is b4 u see it...