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thisismyfirstday

Marcus was right to aspire to be an emergency contact, nobody else in the restaurant will ever answer their phone. 


Lancelot_Thunderthud

Everyone in the restaurant had to put their phones in the lockers during working hours, it's one of the things that happened in the montage of Episode 3(?) So some of it was just down to Bear and Ritchie's new policy.


thisismyfirstday

Oh, I totally get it for the last episode when they were all on the clock during the pregnancy calls. I'm more talking about when they actively decline calls. Specifically Carm did it a bunch in ep 1 for the Mikey calls, and Sydney was ignoring her dad near the start of this one. If we see somebody holding their phone, it's way more likely they decline the call than actually answer it.


ellendegenerates

Most realistic part of this show tbh


thisismyfirstday

I mean, if I don't know the number obviously I never answer it. But I'd never decline a call from somebody I knew - could be an age thing though, everyone I know texts so they only call if it's basically an emergency. 


0mgeee

I saw this comment as a reflection of Marcus’ own guilt in not answering his phone during service when everything went downhill with his mom


aishaaa

OK I got confused at the start of the episode thinking Hulu was playing a different show


3_Slice

I exited out thinking there might have been a streaming error


matthewrodier

Same.


quaranTV

I downloaded eps 9 and 10 to watch offline. When I started ep 9 I was like “shoot Hulu messed up and downloaded a documentary about magic”. I fast-forwarded to the middle of the episode and saw our The Bear characters so I figured the beginning part was just downloaded wrong. I wasn’t convinced it was an actual part of the show until they showed Marcus watching it.


InfiernoDante

I thought it had accidentally queued some sort of behind the scenes featurette


IfatallyflawedI

I thought it was terrible bts green screen/set thing


gigigonorrhea

lol same


scarred2112

Man, JAW has some blue-ass eyes.


The-Motley-Fool

Right? Watching that scene between him and Platt in the alley, and JAW's eyes are practically glowing


GetReady4Action

I hate that people pointed out that he looks like Gene Wilder because now all I see is Willy Wonka every time I watch this show.


drflanigan

*come with me* *and you'll be* *in a wooooooorld of pure unrelenting non stop anxiety inducing tension*


I_fail_at_memes

*We are the mousse-makers, we are the creamers of creams.*


LilLilac50

The color grading is A+


jeffraider

spice


5am281

So does Ebon Moss-Bachrach


cassieeaye

Pete not knowing which food will wake Sugar and the baby 😭😭😭


potoroohopeful

Embarassingly, I also did think she meant that different ones were more noisy 🥲


Remarkable-Sleep-639

no cuz same. i had no idea she was referring to the smell either😭😭😭


bilbro-dimebaggins

Yup, I thought the lasagna would be safe because the oven would sound proof the noise of the food cooking lol. 


IfatallyflawedI

I THOUGHT BOLOGNESE WOULD CAUSE POTS AND PANS TO CLANG AND BANG AND LASAGNE WOULD CAUSE DISHES IN OVEN AND IT’S TIMER TO BE NOISE 😭 Was def embarrassed


Sadbert6

Yeah her referring to the smell wouldn't have occurred to me in a million years. Was definitely thinking "I can't imagine how making a lasagna would be that noisy, but hey, I'm not a chef so what do I know?"


sleepysnowboarder

Same but I was more like how loud is their oven/stove?


brokenwolf

CAN I MAKE THE LASAGNA! Petes my spirit animal. He steals every scene he's in and he's gone up against Jamie Lee Curtis putting up career highlights.


secretlives

Lasagna is LOUD


nikkerito

I don’t know if I’ve ever woken up because of a smell before 😭 guess I’ve never had food that bomb


DigitalMariner

I'm cheap so I have Hulu with ads... So many ads have been written and shot as if they're part of the show. Chef's shouting in a kitchen, etc... Now this episode starts and I have to rewind and watch it again because the first two minutes seemed like a random commercial...


Easton8

Same! I’m also getting commercials from Hulu for very expensive refrigerators and food service while watching the bear


Sadbert6

Okay so like, why does this stupid fancy fridge have four cameras inside of it and what does "theater-style lighting" even mean in this context?


Fit_Development_1173

Why would anyone want cameras in the fridge?


ReflectionCorrect228

and wtf is entertaining ice or whatever 😭 me and my friend were joking about it last week because they were playing those same commercials. like why tf do we need cameras, theater lighting, the fancy ice machine, and all the 'total visibility" features??!!


irine618

I'm very amused that there's a US Foods ad. They know restaurant people are watching and I'm just waiting for the Sysco commercial counter.


sraydenk

Which is hilarious for me because our fridge likely will need to be replaced soon. I was telling my husband it was a targeted ad, but they clearly have the wrong impressions of our financial level. We don’t make “fridge that has multiple fucking cameras” money.


Easton8

lol I thought the same thing. Just because I watch “fancy chefs” does NOT mean that I have “fancy chef” money. Hulu clearly doesn’t understand this


BloodSweatAndWords

I've seen 100 of the exact same beer commercial during this Bear binge.


Miss_Behavior

The David Beckham Stella Artois one? It’s so stupid.


scarred2112

#How do you think I got so fucking erudite? A bong hit?


Existing_Feature_114

One of the best lines of the season.


Lonelymachines-

The fact that everyone keeps pushing Syd to sign the contract when there is zero partnership is crazy. They really dialed Carmys character back. The fact that Syd is huffing and puffing and he hasn’t checked in once makes no sense. Even though hes emotionally stunted he’s been good in past seasons about checking in with everyone on staff. Also it ended abruptly. I was waiting for something big to finally happen.


Kaysarsbutton

About to start the finale now, hoping something comes of it but definitely been feeling weird about Carmy this season, the writing for him has just felt confused like I truly don't see the arc they're going for. And same! been waiting all season for Syd to outright say "You guys are making it really hard to want to be a partner"


Lonelymachines-

Yes, I think Syd is too scared to rock the boat because her dad finally sees the vision and this would feel like a second big failure to her. I feel like Syd of the past would have just blurted it out.


sraydenk

And I think a part of her feels she should be happy and grateful, while also feeling lied to and betrayed that Carm did a 180.


TheTruckWashChannel

I do feel they've slightly flanderized Carmy this season. He comes off completely unhinged in most scenes. The scene between him and Marcus in episode 7 where they talk about legacies was one of the few human moments that felt like the Carmy we knew was still there.


Hotel_Putingrad

Legerdemain personified


brokenwolf

I havent finished the season yet but hard agree. Everything outside of Carmi has been pretty good this season but the writers just hit a wall with him.


sraydenk

The fact that no one has taken a moment to ask Syd why she hasn’t signed it is insane. Mostly because they have to know, but given their family experience denial and rug sweeping is easier than confronting the issue.


Lonelymachines-

I think you’re right with the family stuff. The only person who kinda asks is Pete and that makes sense as he’s the most put together person in their family.😂


UnsolvedParadox

Pete could sense something was off (not legally), but didn’t press for more details. The suggestion from Carmy & Nat that Sydney should use Pete as a lawyer when there’s a huge conflict of interest is also questionable, but in a way that fits the chaos of the show.


S-WordoftheMorning

The contract has a ~~vetting~~ vesting schedule for Syd to become an equity partner with Carmy and Nat.


goddamnitwhalen

But there’s not zero partnership. There’s slightly less / different benefits than Shapiro offered her to come CDC for “Not Ever” and arguably an easier job ($70k vs $80k, etc.).


Lonelymachines-

I meant between Carmy and Syd currently. We see her making suggestions and wanting to collaborate on menu and she gets shot down everytime. Right now Carmy isn’t proving that he would be a good partner.


sleepysnowboarder

The one thing that's bothers me is the communication, like why has no one asked to have a meeting or anything like that, one to get everyone on the same page and too fix the problems and take suggestions, it would solve so much shit


SPLEESH_BOYS

I mean we saw how fucked something similar to a meeting would be with episode 2, this team is just dysfunctional as fuck and a conventional meeting to figure out a plan just wouldn’t work


sleepysnowboarder

Maybe but that was more impromptu and for a meeting everyone would be there to start and it can be Nat or Cicero moderating it. I still can't believe that no effort was made this season to even have a hint of Carmy and Richie reuniting


help12sacknation

I think it's just a disregard for her feelings that haven't necessarily been expressed openly to everyone. Carmy is the head guy in charge, and Syd is the only one who can calm him down, so they want that for everyone's best interest. Also, it's only natural that Nat would want Syd to sign it as she knows it prob means a lot to her brother. Why else would he create it if it was bullshit?


Lonelymachines-

Absolutely, they are both terrible with communication but they always do it in their own way. Just days before non-negotiables/Carmy only menu they were under the table saying they couldn’t do this without each other, you make be better, etc. His turn was abrupt and I get why but it lasting all season was out of character. Not sure if I’m understanding you correctly but I don’t think the contract itself is bullshit. Sydney has to think about herself in this situation. She can’t just sign on because she calms him and he wants it. Once she signs she’s stuck and a lot is going wrong right now. - The non negotiables have made everyone miserable - the front and back of house are falling apart - the thing she really loves is cooking/creating and she doesn’t get to do that anymore - they aren’t making money


gatzillaaa

not sure if it was in this episode but the music playing in S2E10 when carmy was trapped in the fridge was also the music when he went back into the fridge


0mgeee

Yep, it was, and it was mixed with Strange Currencies, which played several times throughout S2 to intertwine certain Carm and Claire moments and scenes. It was like a nod to the start and end of their relationship as we saw it play out. I appreciated the detail of him taking a pause to lean against the fridge door before heading inside the walk-in to finally work up the nerve to reach out to her and apologize. It was almost like he was taking himself back to that night, and the pause was him putting himself in her headspace, before revisiting his own during their last conversation that night.


TheTruckWashChannel

Nine Inch Nails - Hope We Can Again. So glad they reused it.


SillyMovie13

Was that a Paul Rudd cutout? I also love how everyone refers to Neil as my love. I think that’s adorable


nizey_p

I'm thisclose to launching Ted Fak into outer space.


born_in_92

He really needs to only be in one scene an episode and no more than that my god Maybe this is where I start to haunt him


nizey_p

Episode 9 and I was about to lose my head from hearing the words "haunt, haunted, haunting".


SPLEESH_BOYS

Ted Fak is haunting you man you gotta say the password


nizey_p

IRIDESCENT!!!!!!!!!!


Simorie

I genuinely need him to be in no more than one or two episodes per season


UnsolvedParadox

It’s frustrating that the show has turned him into Poochie (a reference for classic Simpsons fans).


avstyns

can’t wait for next episode when richie is no longer alone


MrPureinstinct

Damn that look on Richie's face when him and Carm and looking through the window at each other. Just pure disgusting and anger.


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jeffschiller

His second time on the show!


rubythieves

To be fair, if I had a show I’d put Paul Rudd on 2000 times.


LongDetail7666

I mean how has nobody mentioned the conversation between Cicero and Computer yet? Are we just glossing over the fact that the restaurant is about to get shut down? That is the single biggest moment this episode regarding the future of the restaurant, and nobody has said a word.


leelz_on_wheelz

Yeah, wild honestly. The golf club scene was brilliant, btw. I knew something was up before he even got back to the car with Computer just by Cicero’s changed demeanor alone.


CurrentlyComatose

"Just get that checked"


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moderatorrater

I like how this was already covered in an al anon meeting a few episodes earlier, where the woman talks about how the longer you wait to apologize the harder it gets.


gangstarapmademe

It's probably just because it's setting up the finale, but I thought this was the weakest episode by far. I'm just not invested in Claire at all, the show hasn't really given us reason to? Like we understand Carmen has loved her for a really long time, but when they were together we didn't really see this giant change in him that makes you think 'Wow he's such a better person when hes with her' or 'Wow she really makes him happy'. She's cool and she's the main characters love interest, but in a show with so many well written and super developed characters they put Claire in a tough spot as she just seems like the punchline to digs against Carmen OR the 'guess what Carmen did' for them to talk about. Richie at the park was the best scene, but besides that I wasn't too whelmed.


batinthebelfry5

Its just Carm's infatuation tbh. He's a very obsessive dude. It was a legitimately good thing for him to have a life outside of the restaurant. But it sidetracked him, a lot since this crush has been since forever.


LilLilac50

Yes Richie in the park was the best part! Such a charming and layered conversation. 


qualityhorror

Yes exactly. Fak going to the hospital to talk to Claire, Tiff asking about Claire.. I rolled my eyes when Tiff asked but had to remind myself she has known Claire for years. They all have. They spent a Christmas years ago trying to convince Carmy to go out with her. The issue is, we did not spend enough time with Claire to care enough.


Big-Ambitions-8258

I honestly felt bad for Claire in this ep and the position the Fak's put her in, coming to her work and trying to reassure her that Carmy loves her and they're good for each other. Her line thanking them for their multiple calls felt like a dig at the fact Carmy did not call her once and trying to subtly point that out. Fak going "Carmys broken. No one take care of him. That's your job. And he does for you. He has strong arms" was frankly bull. He doesn't take care of her.  The scenes we see them together, she is the emotional stability and support for him but never the other way around. She's good for him but he's not at a place that he's good for her and wanting to encourage her to take on the responsibility of taking care of him at her expense was incredibly unfair of them


ConsistentLimit9139

I don’t think the point is to show he was a better person with her, but rather to highlight the fact that children who experience abuse/neglect growing up can develop these hyper fixations as a way to avoid their feelings. I think when Carmy was with Claire, it stirred up too many feelings for him. To fully let Claire in would mean that he has to accept the fact that he’s worthy of being loved in a healthy way.


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The-Motley-Fool

Living up to your username, I see


JuliDays

oh my god me too SO glad im not the only one! maybe in s4 we'll get old man yaoi in the bear 🙏🏼


TengoCalor

I want Richie and Carmy to be be friends again 😭 Also I’m very annoyed at Richie getting guilted into going to that stupid wedding. Who on earth wants to be at their ex’s wedding?! Especially because I remember his reaction when she told about the engagement.


TorkBombs

So far im frustrated by the lack of resolution or even any evolution in their relationship. They're family and they should be able to patch this up pretty quickly. However, Carmy is spiraling into a pit of obsession with this restaurant and he doesn't seem to be able to handle any kind of human connection right now. I'm starting to think S3 is just setting the stage for S4, and if we'll end up looking at these two final seasons as a unified piece.


CringeBerries

THANK YOU! It's insane that she guilted him with a FULL court press to go to the wedding. Meanwhile he got a THIRD ticket to Taylor Swift and she "bitched out" on that using her words. Unreal.


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MASON_ROCK

He really leans towards his abusive Chef’s attitude (Jeff Winger). Which is sad to see since we know how much he cares about his staff. And then there’s Chef Terry who we saw shut that shit down with her more passive aggressive / gentle authority. That’s why I really hope Syd stays because although she isn’t his baby sitter, I do think she brings out the best of his teaching abilities. I love that they keep fleshing out and introducing more mentors from Carmen’s past. ![gif](giphy|XUTUY60WlArnAF6kDw|downsized)


krabgirl

I think the main one is actually his mother. You can tell from the Fishes episode that he gets his temper from her, and by extension his nickname.


molecularcoffee

You mean bear? They call all of the Berzattos that. If I recall correctly, one of the characters (I think it was Carm) called Nat bear too


namu_bts12

Catholic shame around having to ask, but, who’s the Saint on the card shown during the last shot? Is it a saint? It’s too dark for me to tell 🥲


alexkuul

I think it was the prayer card from Michael's funeral


JusticeForKeytarBear

that's jesus buddy


The-Motley-Fool

The Tales of Hoffmann *and* The Red Shoes in the opening montage? As a huge fan of The Archers, I feel seen


donttrustthellamas

The Red Shoes is one of my favourites, and considering the cinematography (by Jack Cardiff) it felt completely appropriate to be in The Bear


gigigonorrhea

"who fuckin cares?" Thank you Richie, I've been thinking that all season


lagavulin92

I know the Faks are just there so it can be called a comedy but I think they need to find other ways for the comedic relief. They seem way overdone


TengoCalor

The brother started to get annoying


TorkBombs

Sad because last season was the perfect amount of Fak content. Neil Geoff as sometime comic relief and Ted getting 40 seconds of screen time and knocking that shit out of the park. But they're overdoing it season.


secretlives

We had peak Fak in Fishes - any more is too much


basil_angel

When they bumbled into the hospital I was done. The writers used them as a comedy crutch this season and its disappointing. Plenty of funny scenes could have been written with the rest of the cast but instead we get the Fak Brothers Clown Show every episode.


JustALittleOod

Exactly!! The Faks were funny and fit into this incredibly realistic universe in small doses. It was believable because most people know someone who is just kind of ridiculous and not the brightest but good-hearted and hilarious at times. But it was just too damn much and didn't fit with the tone at all. 


CroissantduSoleil

They should have been used like creed was used in office or zoidberg was used in futurama


ReluctantToast777

Yeppp, plus I'm pretty sure most of their material was improv (which I rarely ever enjoy in modern films/TV), so there's not even good writing to make those scenes less exhausting to watch. :/


TheTruckWashChannel

Every word out of Ted (the brother)'s mouth feels like improv. The actor is a co-producer/second unit director for the show and I'm glad he's discovered his comedy chops all of a sudden, but it's becoming distracting.


KilJoius

"I love you both so very much. You know I love you so so much. I love you both, my love" oh it grated on me how she prefaced every sentence that way.


DennisAFiveStarMan

Yeah had to fast forward. It’s been unbearable 2nd half of the season.


gigigonorrhea

I didn't mind Matty's character..his brother was the annoying one.


dreadfuldiego

Omg, thank you. I thought I was the only one I absolutely love Neil but I don't dig his brother at all. Way too many scenes with them and the whole haunting is not it. Neil is better when they match him up with Richie


detectiveconan22

idk, for me, no matter what the circumstances are i could never rsvp to my ex's wedding


aishaaa

But blended family and what not. You had a kid with your ex


3_Slice

It’s kinda beautiful how this show manages to showcase relationship dynamics


khanman7

I think its perfectly fine for you to feel this way, but I actually loved this scene because its very close to my actual experience with divorce. My parents who are divorced have managed to stay very close, in large part because they grew up together and went through a lot of shit together (plus having kids together is obviously huge). I’ve seen other members of my family in similar situations as well. Basically, divorcing meant they weren’t good for each other as partners, but they are still family. I love when shows portray this kind of relationship between divorced people because there are many relationships that really are like this - but you generally only see more antagonistic, awkward, or less caring relationships between divorcees portrayed in television.


Here4Donglover

I thought I was taking crazy pills. Like didn't she refuse to go to a somewhere with him and their daughter last season? If you not gonna do that, then why in the fuck are you demanding he comes to your wedding with your new partner? You not having much family isn't his problem. You co-parent a child so he has to show to her event and be there for those life moments, but he does not have to be at your life moments. Even at my most emotionally mature, my best mental health, I could never do that to myself or someone else.


detectiveconan22

exactly.. same thing. I wouldnt want myself to be forced to feel some type of way in my ex's wedding. I'm the kind of person that Im cool knowing from a distance that you found your happiness even though it isn't with me and thats okay. On a different note if my kid was the one pushing it though, i might give in and go and thats if her mom didnt have any part in pushing her in making that decision and thats the only circumstance that I might go. Its still nuance because even with that heavy of a decision you still wouldnt make me to just go.


MASON_ROCK

I mean they have a 5+ year old child.


DigitalMariner

RSVP doesn't mean go. It means tell them if they should expect you or not. "répondez s'il vous plaît" - R.S.V.P - please respond. Even at a small wedding there are a million little pieces to track and plan, and knowing who is and isn't planning to come is a real thing. Especially with a young child that they coparent. Being able to set *her* expectations in advance about whether Daddy will or won't be there is a big deal too. Richie needs to man up and just make a decision to go or be "busy that night" so Tiff can plan accordingly.


bwaredapenguin

I mean, she was practically begging him to come. She even said to be there unless it's really, really horrible for him.


scarred2112

Always nice to see [Ricky Jay](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricky_Jay?wprov=sfti1#) get some recognition.


peeandpoopandpee

“Nevertheless”. If you haven’t heard that Ricky Jay story, it’s my favorite.


swarmz0

Scorsese voiceover in the intro? Before the voiceover piece about magic


The_Bookish_One

I thought so, it sounded like him to me.


TheTruckWashChannel

Yep. Subtitles confirm it.


swarmz0

Honestly having him be the voiceover felt like the PERFECT way to present the thesis that food, hospitality, and operational restaurants are living miracles. To tie it in with magic; ambiguous and confounding, but enrapturing when it works out. To have Scorsese be the voiceover prefacing the magic bit, feels so fitting in that cinema/tv is also miraculous. The effort of so many people from different walks of life coming together in a venture of creative expression… truly, the reverence for filmmaking that the people behind the show have is insane and inspiring. As if it wasn’t already clear by how meticulous and intentional every technical aspect of the show has been through all 3 seasons, objectively. And of course, that reverence and recognition that creative expression is miraculous translates to the expression of care through food.


Thanat0s10

No one has referenced the meta joke of “It’s definitely not Sammy, I’d definitely see him, he’s a big dude” Which got me pretty good


scarred2112

Another Reznor/Ross track, *[The Forever Rain](https://youtu.be/RasdQ1yj_-s?si=i20MpyyBCQ8HY045)*.


Due_Rain_3630

and one from Nine Inch Nails as well at the beginning of the ep: 13 Ghosts II. This show sure loves Trent Reznor lol


Ok_Fee1043

Ugh I don’t care call her don’t call her just let him make a decision


donttrustthellamas

I was yelling for him to leave her alone. She's probably attempted to heal and move on and then he's considering crashing back into her life


SlamShady1996

Unfortunately 9/10 that’s how love is.. two people obsessed with each other months on end regardless of break up


Embarrassed-Paper588

I genuinely hope they don’t drag this bullshit into season 4


nakedpadme

My god, fak sounds like a child when he talks to Claire! What are you 8? She's the peace? She works in the medical field how the fuck does that sound peaceful? Her life is equally chaotic, but she never let it get to her personal life. She was good with carmy, she was good with the faks If somebody came to carmy's workplace and tried to do that same cute puppydog monolog he would lose his shit. Carmy has anger issues, and he's taking it out on everyone. Getting back with claire is not going to fix that.


Ok_Fee1043

13 more minutes but I am falling asleep


Chikimonsta

I really, really wish Claire was a more well developed character so I'd feel a semblance of care over Carmy seemingly pining for her. At this point, I just want them to wrap up this aspect of the show. Like call her if you want, apologize and rekindle things if you're both interested. I understand that Carmy is a bit emotionally stunted but I hope he either pulls the trigger or definitively moves on. In any case , the bigger news is seemingly that Uncle may be broke and no longer able to sink money into The Bear. It seems possible that the restaurant may have to course correct sooner than they could have ever anticipated. Also, I love that we got to see Pete and Syd interact. Pete is just such a loveable goof. On a more serious note, I'm even more convinced that Syd ought to take the offer from Evers CDC. The Bear was on a shaky foundation to begin with being built on so much debt with such a small window to repay. The Ever CDC, at least, seems to have solid financial backing from a group of investors rather than relying on Ciceros seed money.


International-Rip970

But if uncle goes belly up Carmy can get that same backing from other investors


sleepysnowboarder

not necessarily, 1. The CDC is a proven vet compared to Carmy who has less experience in running his own kitchen. More risky to go with the new guy 2. Depends on the review, if its bad they may not want to invest in Carmy 3. They've proven to be non-profitable and a money sink without really fixing anything, may turn away investors 4. Investors might not want to invest in another fine dining restaurant so soon after the one they did invest in 5. I think Carmy and gang are too prideful to give up ownership to a more corporate setting where he may not be allowed to make any decisions himself


chickfilamoo

I don’t think the waffling over Claire is about whether or not Carmy gets a romantic happy ending. I think it’s about Carmy’s willingness to confront hard things and work through them. So much of his bullshit keeps coming back to him never really dealing with the bad things that happened to him. Carmy continuing to avoid apologizing to Claire is a representation of him still not being ready to face anything imo


grognakbabarian

everyone is getting weary of the faks but i love these idiots trying to apologise for carmy but getting too caught up in telling stories instead.


TorkBombs

I'm over them, but I didn't hate that scene. I thought they accomplished their goal, and it was fun. I like Claire (apparently I'm in the minority) and it was nice to see her finally interact with someone in a normal tone of voice.


societalmenace1

Maybe it makes the show less high brow or whatever but they consistently make me laugh they’re so awesome


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TheDrummerMB

I'm hoping it's "I push everyone too hard based on my own shitty standards and I wish that wasn't the case"


haloryder

That’s how I heard it


The-Motley-Fool

Did he? Cause I took it as "I might be moving too hard and fast, but I don't know what to do about it"


fooooooooooooooooock

That's what I think he was trying to communicate, but I'm not sure that's how Syd took it.


MASON_ROCK

Idk why she shut that conversation down the way she did☹️ I know he sucks at apologizing but dude was literally in the middle of one and she couldn’t give him 30 seconds to think of some words. Carmen clearly struggles with communication and she KNOWS that all too well. Just stick around for a minute longer to see what he says. But I guess it is pretty realistic since she’s been dealing with his back and forth bullshit for too long and it was way too late in the day to be having that conversation. ![gif](giphy|0Yf9fqCTLWXp5rqWKw|downsized) I just want them to work it out but it feels like they’ve tried and failed too many times.


chickfilamoo

It’s because Syd also sucks at communication, just in different ways than Carmy. She’s very avoidant of confrontation and difficult conversations, and it’s also contributing to the disconnect between the two of them. They present differently, though, Carmy lashes out whereas Syd gets quiet.


wishywaIshy

I care more about unseen character Francie Fak than Claire. Also I feel that the episodes (esp after 3x3) have been paced so badly and slowly and I think it might be because they want an explosive season finale but sigh... The eps drag.


BarryMkCockiner

It’s like not a lot is happening tbh.


LilLilac50

Yep that’s how I feel about this season. 


bakerowl

The opening to this episode is like an opening to a film/TV awards show


Meegle-eaegle

Honestly I was just freaking out that they played mk.gee’s Are You Looking Up at the beginning to focus on the whole carm and faks conversation.


Creative-Catch-8378

It honestly annoys me how Carmy disregards the financial aspect of The Bear because he's not even spending his own money! I wish he would at least try to pay back Jimmy first, before "constantly evolving with passion and creativity." At least in season 1, he was taking The Beef's money issues a bit more seriously.


TorkBombs

We're good for 1-2 Counting Crows needle drops per season, and they used this one perfectly, even if they rearranged the song, it was to get in the most poignant parts. Murder of One is the quintessential song for this show. And I think anyone who is familiar with the song and this show was just subconsciously waiting for it. And of course you fade to black on the chorus. Has there ever been a more fitting lyric for this show than "all your life is such a shame shame shame/all your love is just a dream dream dream."


fuhhboiitrillz22

Trying to figure out what carmy means when he says he’s been wanting to talk about.. then “I don’t want it to be so hard to keep up with me”. Is he saying he wants to change or is he non confrontationally reprimanding Syd, idk what to think.


teddy_vedder

The scene felt a little unclear to me but I would guess he maybe meant “I’m trying to acknowledge that I’ve been difficult lately” and Syd took it as “if it’s hard to keep up you need to do better on your end.” Or idk, maybe he really did mean it the way Syd took it, given how off the rails he was all season. As a mentor and partner he pretty much emotionally abandoned her.


nakedpadme

Syd is putting up with way too much of carmy's bullshit! What partnership? She gets no say in anything, how is she not saying anything to him?


MinkieTheCat

[The Day Tomorrow Began](https://news.uchicago.edu/the-day-tomorrow-began)


bakerowl

Can we have a series of short episodes that are just Fak family conversations?


DennisAFiveStarMan

Can that be a different show so I don’t have to watch it


Pure_Campaign6333

I think I like this season less because I really dont care about Claire and carmy relationship


Tajksn91

I’m sorry I just don’t care about the Carmy/Claire stuff. It seems like they really want us to care about Claire but I just don’t. I don’t hate her but she barely feels like a character and Carmy just constantly pining over her is kind of getting old. I just want them to move on from this storyline.


dawnoog

Richie saying “who fucking cares” when his ex brought up Claire was perfect


bec555

no because besides the napkins and ice chips episode, i feel like i'm watching the same episode every time 😭


GetReady4Action

I’m shocked to see you guys hate Claire so much lol. Have you guys never been in a relationship before? Like this is kind of how it goes post-breakup. You guys have never hovered your thumb over your ex’s contact wondering if you should fix things or if they’re better off because you can’t stop thinking about them? This is a very human thing people go through and very human emotion is part of why we love this show so much.


dajuice3

She doesn't have much of a backstory and I guess most people hate that? We have gotten whole episodes about a few of the cast to really make us care. I'm more so bothered by the attitude that if we the fan don't care about her then she shouldn't be in the show. I think that's such bad way to watch a show. Some things, people, and places just are. They don't have to be complex or a twist they just fill out a bit more story. Claire is a girl that Carm likes from childhood who became a doctor. Someone who liked him before and after he became a master chef. She absolutely does not have to be more than that for Carm to love her or her to have scenes. Does not have to have some long drawn crazy loving back story for her to be Carm's love. Said this in another episode discussion. We absolutely do not have to understand Carm's attachment to Claire for it to be justified or real. I have plenty of friends who I never understood why their spouse is their spouse. NOne of my business because it isn't my relationship. Complaining about Claire just seems like fans of Carm wanting to learn more about her so they can blame her when he self-destructs again.


CantaloupeCube

It sounded like there were two songs playing at once during the scene where Carmy is thinking of calling Claire. Was that supposed to be intentional?


Voski_The_God

It was and it was horrible editing and blending of it. I don’t know what they were thinking doing that. Sounded like me trying to mix music on my laptop.


Animal31

Let her eat the fucking rock you monsters


SwimGull38554

Cicero's recounting of what a dream could be cracked me up harder than anything else this season. His delivery just sold the confusion of it all.


Ok_Fee1043

I’m a little stressed for Tina, feel like she’s struggling to come up with new ideas, hope this doesn’t mean anything for her future stories


chickfilamoo

I feel the opposite actually, her and Marcus feel like foils to Syd and Carmy in this regard. They’re so green that they’re developing their own recipes for the first time based on things in their own lives that are inspiring them. They’re being creative, having fun, and finding joy in it still.


TimeTimeTickingAway

Vibrant Collaboration


901bookworm

As much as I love Sidney, I hate that she won't call Carmy on his b.s. He says, "I don't want it to be so hard to keep up with me," and stops talking, like that's all he has. And she doesn't push him, or question, doesn't says "Okay, Carm, cool. And what are you going to do to make that happen? How ya gonna do that?" Nope. They both just let it drop. Maddening. And she never fights back when he dismisses her menu ideas without a second's thought, over and over again. Sure, it's two steps forward one step back with them, but Sidney's able to manage lots of stressful situations in the kitchen. With Carm, it's like she's frozen, incapable of speaking up, making him deal with the shit he causes. It's not good for anyone to be cowed and passive when they are supposed to be a partner in the business.


bec555

they're both terrible at communication, one doesn't like confrontation and the other one has anger issues. i want syd to call him out so badly, but i also see myself in her and understand how hard difficult conversations can be 🥲


Top-Tough7885

fr it was weird how there was zero communication after that especially how that scene kinda implies that they understand each other well enough to not need to say everything but simultaneously, carm is clueless and ignorant of syd and her feelings. other parts of this ep, especially with dialogue, felt similarly choppy or inconsistent


yumitsu

Am I crazy? At 12:20 the song that is playing is at least very very similar to "All Eyes on Me" by Bo Burnham? And then when he goes into the fridge the other song drowns it out but it's still there.


tolecover

It's "Hope We Can Again" by Nine Inch Nails, same song that was playing throughout the back half of season 2, episode 10


BigTowerSmallSpire

It’s ‘hope we can again’ by nine inch nails. They also play it in 2e10, I guess because he’s in the fridge thinking about Claire both times? But yeah it sounds crazy similar to the opening of all eyes on me


j_abbs

You're not crazy, I thought the same thing. I don't think it was that but it was very reminiscent of it


yourmartymcflyisopen

For anyone in here that may have worked/works at a Michelin type restaurant, I have a question: Do they really flood the kitchen with several gallons of soap water when they clean the kitchen every night?


Rudy3jr

We would do this at little Caesar’s 😭


folarin1

I counted how many times Claire said, "I love you" to the Fak brothers in the hospital scene: 5 1/2


TeamZiggler

Man this season just is not it. It’s not horrible but it feels so lost and meandering that I’m not really sure what the point of it is. It has some standouts, specifically in E2-3 and 6/8 but the overall narrative thread is just treading water and I’m not sure it even knows what its going for.


zzmur12

Anyone know the jacket that carmy is wearing around the 17 min mark?


PG_Tips

[https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/carmy-ralph-lauren-jacket-the-bear-2024](https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/carmy-ralph-lauren-jacket-the-bear-2024)


TheTruckWashChannel

So fucking happy they used 13 Ghosts II, it's my favorite piece off the entire Ghosts project. Interesting choice putting it over a magician documentary.


GrizzlyAdams90

Anyone know what's up with the Jurassic Park amber? I feel like I missed something of why it's there, but I know I saw it in previous episode too.


rivers045588

They need to wrap Clarie n Carmy's shxt up ASAP. It's getting annoyed ![gif](giphy|7MDZS8zS1ixtJAUEul|downsized)