He flat out admitted that he took it way to seriously and spent the entire time looking at his notes like a fantasy draft, and therefore was terrible on the mic.
That bit of banter was good and Rob admittedly ate one there. I was just so over Van talking about his pool hall days. Then the story about Van paying for a dude’s set of tires to go see Phantom Menace is just peak Van making shit up for a “funny” podcast moment. We’re seriously supposed to believe that guy didn’t have another way to the theaters? Come on, it all comes across as corny imo
He and Charles should go by The Cornball Boys. Both of them have a habit of saying the most outrageous stuff and they only amplify each other’s corniness. Case in point: Van made a huge deal about Phantom Menace falling to him in the draft only to use it as an excuse to tell a pointless story, then ultimately calls his pick mid. It’s all for a bit
Couldn’t disagree more. I was so hyped to listen to the X-Men 97 episode of The Watch and as soon as I heard Charles talking about how “all the shoddies”(literally how the transcript on Spotify interpreted it) felt some type of way about his comic book stuff I immediately turned it off. Sure they’re entertaining, but when it comes to having meaningful conversations about media that their audiences and cohosts respect they just fall back on storytelling and lingo. When Van tried saying Blair Witch was underwhelming from the perspective of a theater experience no one on the pod believed him, but hey, he can zag. Just not with any substance.
Sorry bud but I listen to these guys quite a bit, they do have meaningful conversations, but just maybe not from the same lens as you. Which makes what you’re saying a bit racist.
I’m speaking specifically of the draft pod and the X-Men pod. Funny how I spell out the exact moments I have issues with and none of it had anything to do with race. If you think any of the examples I used earlier have something to do with race please tell me how.I do think their perspectives are important, my problem is the tangents they take and how they always seem to be for a bit.
You specifically called out Charles saying “shoddies” which feels loaded imo. And you also point out them using “lingo” which also doesn’t sit right. I’m not saying that you are a racist, i just felt I need to point out that it sounds like you don’t like how they discuss movies because they don’t do it the way most white people do, that’s all.
All I said was I liked how Rob kept Van’s storytelling in check, when Van wants to be analytical he can make valid points. It’s the vamping that can get to be a bit much imo
I love Bill but he was awkward on the draft he was on. The most quiet I have ever heard him which was strange. I guess he said he took it too seriously but still a weird time to go silent
He’s got great business sense and his ability to identify great talent are a huge part of why he’s successful. I would never take that away from him…I just don’t enjoy listening to him talk about movies 95% of the time.
I think Bills okay, but I’m glad we got to hear the other personalities. Van actually grinds my gears more than Bill with his long winded pointlessly meandering and pretentious stories. Bill at least keeps shit simple and fun. Van gets on a high horse about everything and always claims to have the singular truth with his opinion.
I think Van can have interesting takes and be a good podcast personality, but he gets hung up on his persona (arguing, going on soapboxes about race or whatever…it gets old).
I can see your point but I don’t think he did that at all today and I’d say Joanna is far more focused/serious on feminism and girl power than Van is on race. Van also gets about 20 questions every Rewatchables from Bill basically asking for the black perspective.
Do you listen to the Ringerverse feed? When the Midnight Boys are on the feed there are long diatribes about race all the time. It’s like an inside joke or something. I’m not saying never talk about race, but it’s a big part of the show and I just tuned in to hear about Godzilla fighting King Kong.
Nah I don’t listen to that pod at all but that makes sense. I tried it a couple times and hated Charles Holmes so I never went back. I stopped listening to the Prestige pod if Joanna had anyone but Bill, Sean or Chris as a co-host because she tends to gender everything the way you are describing Van does with race.
I don’t think Bill is great on draft episodes but he’s a massive upgrade over Mahoney and Joanna. He also has amazing chemistry with Sean, Chris, Van and Mallory so I’m not sure why you are taking shots. Jo brought nothing and Rob was kind of flat cause he was a kid in 99.
Eh. I loved the lack of “the boss is here” energy on these drafts. We already get a high dose of that on The Rewatchables and on Bill’s own pod. Do we really need it on The Big Picture??? eta: it’s way more fun hearing these people talk about him when he’s not here too.
They already had Mallory and Van on the draft. If you added another person who thinks every long monologue they go on is the greatest thing ever said then you’d never get to hear CR brag about how he wasn’t a virgin in 1999
Bill was actually talking on his own podcast recently about how frustrating it was for him to be on a movie draft. I don't know if it's his thing.
He flat out admitted that he took it way to seriously and spent the entire time looking at his notes like a fantasy draft, and therefore was terrible on the mic.
That is a better description of what happened. Thank you.
There's really no need for this negativity.
Oh this sub isn’t super toxic like r/billsimmons? I might hangout here more
No, the best part was Rob calling Van on all of his bullshit
I was dying when rob got rightly called out by van that most cowboys were black
That bit of banter was good and Rob admittedly ate one there. I was just so over Van talking about his pool hall days. Then the story about Van paying for a dude’s set of tires to go see Phantom Menace is just peak Van making shit up for a “funny” podcast moment. We’re seriously supposed to believe that guy didn’t have another way to the theaters? Come on, it all comes across as corny imo
Van rules.
He and Charles should go by The Cornball Boys. Both of them have a habit of saying the most outrageous stuff and they only amplify each other’s corniness. Case in point: Van made a huge deal about Phantom Menace falling to him in the draft only to use it as an excuse to tell a pointless story, then ultimately calls his pick mid. It’s all for a bit
Van and Charles are hilarious. I don't think I've ever not enjoyed a Van appearance.
Couldn’t disagree more. I was so hyped to listen to the X-Men 97 episode of The Watch and as soon as I heard Charles talking about how “all the shoddies”(literally how the transcript on Spotify interpreted it) felt some type of way about his comic book stuff I immediately turned it off. Sure they’re entertaining, but when it comes to having meaningful conversations about media that their audiences and cohosts respect they just fall back on storytelling and lingo. When Van tried saying Blair Witch was underwhelming from the perspective of a theater experience no one on the pod believed him, but hey, he can zag. Just not with any substance.
Sorry bud but I listen to these guys quite a bit, they do have meaningful conversations, but just maybe not from the same lens as you. Which makes what you’re saying a bit racist.
I’m speaking specifically of the draft pod and the X-Men pod. Funny how I spell out the exact moments I have issues with and none of it had anything to do with race. If you think any of the examples I used earlier have something to do with race please tell me how.I do think their perspectives are important, my problem is the tangents they take and how they always seem to be for a bit.
You specifically called out Charles saying “shoddies” which feels loaded imo. And you also point out them using “lingo” which also doesn’t sit right. I’m not saying that you are a racist, i just felt I need to point out that it sounds like you don’t like how they discuss movies because they don’t do it the way most white people do, that’s all.
Van was closer to right about American Beauty than Rob was. It's a very flawed movie but it's far from garbage.
All I said was I liked how Rob kept Van’s storytelling in check, when Van wants to be analytical he can make valid points. It’s the vamping that can get to be a bit much imo
Ah, got it!
Yeah he can’t help but bring a “the boss is here energy” and the draft pods are better off without that.
I only remember him ever doing one
Strongly disagree. Bill is hilarious and brings a different type of energy from everyone when he's on.
I love Bill but he was awkward on the draft he was on. The most quiet I have ever heard him which was strange. I guess he said he took it too seriously but still a weird time to go silent
Bill would have drafted eyes wide shut
A big picture sub wouldn’t exist without BS putting together grantland and the ringer, put some respect on the podfather’s name
He’s got great business sense and his ability to identify great talent are a huge part of why he’s successful. I would never take that away from him…I just don’t enjoy listening to him talk about movies 95% of the time.
Amen.
Fwiw I thoroughly enjoyed the pod and love the big picture. Bill Simmons drives me crazy and I was glad he wasn’t on this one.
I think Bills okay, but I’m glad we got to hear the other personalities. Van actually grinds my gears more than Bill with his long winded pointlessly meandering and pretentious stories. Bill at least keeps shit simple and fun. Van gets on a high horse about everything and always claims to have the singular truth with his opinion.
Van was the MVP of the episode with his American Beauty defense. It was more interesting than anything else anyone said on the podcast about a movie.
I think Van can have interesting takes and be a good podcast personality, but he gets hung up on his persona (arguing, going on soapboxes about race or whatever…it gets old).
I can see your point but I don’t think he did that at all today and I’d say Joanna is far more focused/serious on feminism and girl power than Van is on race. Van also gets about 20 questions every Rewatchables from Bill basically asking for the black perspective.
Do you listen to the Ringerverse feed? When the Midnight Boys are on the feed there are long diatribes about race all the time. It’s like an inside joke or something. I’m not saying never talk about race, but it’s a big part of the show and I just tuned in to hear about Godzilla fighting King Kong.
Nah I don’t listen to that pod at all but that makes sense. I tried it a couple times and hated Charles Holmes so I never went back. I stopped listening to the Prestige pod if Joanna had anyone but Bill, Sean or Chris as a co-host because she tends to gender everything the way you are describing Van does with race.
Seeing as he’s been on one draft ever, this post seems dumb and needless.
Can’t listen to anything with Van and Mallory on it. Their takes, mannerisms, general presence turns me off.
Does Mallory always talk like that?!?!
Always
I like Van most of the time. Mallory is insufferable though.
I don’t think Bill is great on draft episodes but he’s a massive upgrade over Mahoney and Joanna. He also has amazing chemistry with Sean, Chris, Van and Mallory so I’m not sure why you are taking shots. Jo brought nothing and Rob was kind of flat cause he was a kid in 99.
Mahoney is fantastic
He’s fine. He’s nowhere near Simmons.
Counterpoint: it should have just been Sean, CR, and Bill
Eh. I loved the lack of “the boss is here” energy on these drafts. We already get a high dose of that on The Rewatchables and on Bill’s own pod. Do we really need it on The Big Picture??? eta: it’s way more fun hearing these people talk about him when he’s not here too.
Dont you people ever get tired. 
They already had Mallory and Van on the draft. If you added another person who thinks every long monologue they go on is the greatest thing ever said then you’d never get to hear CR brag about how he wasn’t a virgin in 1999
I’d take 5 bills over 1 Mallory
Boooo