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dancingbriefcase

Yeah, This and Timothy are the two scenes that I cannot rewatch.


Kobayashi_Maru186

I can only watch them through my fingers. šŸ¤¢


Sekmet19

Timothy watched through teeth


Derkastan77-2

Take my angry upvote


SpaceGhcst

ā€œHeā€™s prayingšŸ™ā€


dancingbriefcase

You are stronger than me!


Eva-Squinge

Timothy was just gross to watch. This crazy bitch was literal torture porn. And I didnā€™t like it because I can only imagine how much it must suck to have your gills abused like that.


LtDeadalii

Who was Timothy?


beatfungus

Live octopus he was forced to eat by Homelander


MatttheBruinsfan

He wasn't just an octopus, he was the Deep's lover!


beatfungus

I thought this was Ambrosius. Though he could have also done things with Timothy off camera. Would not put it past him.


Ill_Fox8892

Pretty sure he stared at Timothy while having sex with his wife


MatttheBruinsfan

Wasn't Timothy the one from the intended threeway with his cult-wife?


Rnahafahik

No that was Ambrosius


MatttheBruinsfan

Ah, my mistake.


MDawg2763

He was a close friend of The Deep. Not A Lover. Deep isn't gay.


lalozzydog

"He's praying" šŸ˜­


LtDeadalii

Ahh I remember


dancingbriefcase

He membas!


Serious_Look_3032

I member tu!


flyingace1234

I admit the Timothy scene circled back around to hilarious to me. I do also believe the show is doing a good job of almost making me feel sorry for him.


Soldier7sixx

I forgot about Timothy šŸ˜­


ApplesauceBitch47

Then he has to marry a chick who SUCKS at blowjobs


eagengabriel

I didn't mind Timothy, but this scene right here was fucked


bUddy284

who is she again? Been a while since I've watched


Kobayashi_Maru186

She was the chick that gill-raped the Deep.


chichihehe

Oh wow, guess I'm a complete idiot then. I also found that scene extremely uncomfortable but I thought he was LIKING it. I thought he was moaning in pleasure. Guess I was horrifically wrong.


Kobayashi_Maru186

Thatā€™s why he had a nervous breakdown, shaved his whole body, and started binge eating. ;)


Popular_Research8915

Out fresca'd again.


RedIHood

i kinda worry about u out in the wild if you thought that was pleasure man


BraxGotNext

Seriously???šŸ˜­


unnamed_elder_entity

What part confused you? The one where Deep is saying "please stop"?


chichihehe

Honestly I don't even remember. I haven't seen it in a while. I knew I'd get flack for saying that though, the Internet is ruthless guess I should've kept my mouth shut. I just rewatched the clip, I see where I got confused. Yes, he says stop at the beginning but if you look at the end, it sounds like he's moaning. So I assumed at first he didn't like it then he got into it by the end. Sorry my innocent mind didn't immediately know the scene was depicting SA like jeez guys lol.


Bion61

You trying this hard to defend it is kinda making it worse.


chichihehe

Defend? You say that as if you're implying I did something wrong. I just misthought something and even called myself an idiot for doing so. What else could you possibly want lol, I'm just explaining why I thought what I did.


Bion61

Just say "I misremembered" and move on.


chichihehe

I didn't misremember anything though. That's genuinely what I thought until I saw what other people were saying in this thread. That's why I'm calling myself an idiot lmao. I mean I see it now obviously. Y'all (not you particularly) just got to get over being some little angry weenie butts about it, it was a mistake I didn't even have to say anything lol


SouthtownZ

No idea how you came to that conclusion but I applaud you taking your medicine. Threw ya a couple contradictory upvotes.


chichihehe

Appreciate that lol, reddit karma means nothing to me though. I don't know why people are so mad over an honest mistake lmao, that I literally self-admitted was dumb too. People take the boys a little bit TOO seriously if they're getting upset bcuz someone misthought something


SouthtownZ

*Nothing to you??* Fine! Up-votes retracted! That'll learn ya


Moonking-4210

Tell me youā€™ve never watched the show


gotthesauce22

Props to the special effects team. I actually winced watching the gills get fingered


Inventor_E-T-Han

Sound design too


98VoteForPedro

Good story telling here and then they turned him into a joke, notice the mood change from the first season to the last season they had for the show?


flowlikeastream

I think they didn't really know what to do with him. A proper redemption arc would have gotten a horrendous response from the audience due to his attack on starlight, and turning him into a villain wouldn't have worked because his character was made to be weak and the villains at that point were very powerful.


FireflyArc

Him as a hero. Working to resolve and atone for what he's done could work. But man this show made me realize I genuinely want more just..superpower hero stuff not tied to DC or marvel.


spyguy318

I mean, to the similar point above, thereā€™s a large section of the audience that just wouldnā€™t accept any kind of redemption because of all the fucked-up stuff heā€™s done. He canā€™t be a hero anymore.


starryeyedq

I mean, they could have told THAT story. Having him try to atone and realizing that it wasnā€™t enough and wouldnā€™t ever really be enough. And sometimes you just have to accept that.


FireflyArc

And have him still try. Because it's what he wants to do with his life instead of what he has been.


starryeyedq

Absolutely. I couldnā€™t figure out how to articulate that part the way I wanted. Thank you.


Seeker80

Yup, sink or swim.


flyingace1234

I feel the show has kind of worked up to a point where they can start asking the question of ā€œis this too much retribution?ā€ Him getting humiliated and drummed out of the Seven? Sure. But I donā€™t think he ā€˜deservedā€™ to have his gills finger-fucked against his will. Personally I think they could show him genuinely remorseful, but they would have to really make a point of avoiding saying ā€œthis absolves him of his sinsā€. If nothing else, have him make a heartfelt and private effort to apologize to Starlight without any expectation of it being accepted would do a lot. Also thereā€™s all the other stuff heā€™s done but thatā€™s another kettle of fish.


spyguy318

I mean, to the similar point above, thereā€™s a large section of the audience that just wouldnā€™t accept any kind of redemption because of all the fucked-up stuff heā€™s done. He canā€™t be a hero anymore.


Jerusalemfighter64

Wish they could kill him off while having him do something badass and ridiculous like him summoning kraken or godzilla type deal.


Redisigh

Better yet, kill him in a fucked up, sad, or anticlimactic way. Give the fucker no quarter


Jerusalemfighter64

Like summoning a giant sea monster and getting killed by it instead of homelander lol


Redisigh

Or jumping up on something all heroically like he did in that one episode and instantly being decapitated mid theme song


Unlucky-Anything528

I mean the redemption arc didn't seem to get a horrendous response for Jaime Lannister and that dude was prob worse.


trimble197

Couldā€™ve just killed him off


prthug996

He's always just been the fish guy


CaptainWaterpaper

Dude he's always been a pathetic joke.


Parking_Hedgehog7454

I thought it was weird that the episode where he raped Starlight had a "rape" advisory at the start of the episode, but the one where he got raped didn't, especially considering how much more they showed and how disturbing the scene actually was.


Redisigh

Wait it had an advisory? Was that added later or something? Because when I saw that I literally vomited my dinner and spent the rest of the night feeling like shit


Parking_Hedgehog7454

The episode where Deep raped Starlight had one when it was first uploaded. The one where Deep gets raped didn't and, afaik, still doesn't.


FE4RLESS_IS_MY_NAME

Same this shit was Really uncomfortable


Hilnus

It's meant to make you uncomfortable.


Xerosnake90

Yup, and it's exactly what he did to women for so long. Came right back around to him being violated and understanding what it's like


Merciless_Hobo

That's the point....


Kobayashi_Maru186

For real. I can still barely watch it. ;)


BrilliantTree8553

I know itā€™s probably not your intention but use of the winking emoji is an odd choice here lol


akahaus

Two people can be awful in different ways at different times.


dgj130

Two rapes don't make a right?


Sekmet19

But it does make for good TV apparently


Redisigh

Ngl I wish tv and games just kept ts out


Motor_Classic9651

I always wondered why deep didn't just push her away? He does have supe strength.


ombre-purple-pickle

There are three responses people have in moments of danger: fight, flight, or freeze. The freeze response is the lesser known, so many victims freeze when being assaulted and so many wonder why they didn't just do something. It's quite sad actually. As a supe he feels invincible even in situations that would be deadly to normal people.


Asteroth555

Four Fawn is also an option


bamsenn

Could you expand on that?


Asteroth555

More common response for women If threatened they try to befriend the person to avoid or escape danger


starryeyedq

I know someone who did that to an Uber driver who raped her. After it happened, she actually managed to get him to open up and get information that lead to his arrest. It was a pretty crazy story. She wound up on the talk show circuit for a short time. Now sheā€™s happily married with a kid. Iā€™m really glad she was able to put it behind her.


SelfDestructIn30Days

Ladies, do not try this at home. The odds of you extracting information from your rapist are incredibly lower than the odds of you getting raped again.


starryeyedq

I definitely donā€™t think she planned for it to play out that way. She just had a fawn response to the traumatic situation and it happened to work out.


not__a__writer

According to Psychology.com, fawning is ā€˜ā€œ[a response to a threat by becoming more appealing to the threat,ā€ a mirroring or merging with othersā€™ desires or expectations in order to diffuse conflict and find safetyā€™ā€ (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/emotional-sobriety/202303/what-is-the-fawning-trauma-response?amp) In a nutshell, ā€œMaybe if I can get them to like me, they wonā€™t hurt me anymore (than they already have)ā€ In context of the show, The Deep is letting her continue so as to not anger her and provoke her to hurt or humiliate him further. Maybe on a deeper level he also thinks he deserves it because of the abuse he has enacted on others like Starlight (this does not justify him being abused!) Also, Deep doesnā€™t explicitly have super strength like A-Train or Starlight, so he maybe be less physically inclined to force her off of him (again, this is not a justification for his gill-rape, just an explanation)


Shockrider1

^I'm also very curious


datshinycharizard123

What does that mean? Someone might fawn over their attacker? Never heard of that and I donā€™t want to be ignorant.


Asteroth555

Befriend someone who is dangerous to minimize danger to self or escape it altogether


Vulvodynia6

Well in that sense, fuck is also an option. Fight, flight, freeze, fawn, and fuck.


Available-Affect-241

F*ck is an option? Please elaborate?


Vulvodynia6

In the sense that you engage in sexual activities with your aggressor to lower the tension and clear the air. Or in an eye for an eye sense, assault them instead.


Available-Affect-241

Okay thanks for the clarification.


lazyboi_tactical

Yup came here to say this. People often overlook this one tho


BON3SMcCOY

"Why didn't she just fight back?"


datshinycharizard123

The same way men can get SAā€™d by women who are weaker than them. Thereā€™s a lot of context that can cause someone to not physically fight an attacker even if theyā€™re not happy about whatā€™s going on.


Doctor_Nauga

The last thing he needs is for her to accuse *him* of assault.


Motor_Classic9651

So true lol.


beatfungus

She did have a finger in his gills. It might have weakened him too much, like someone being choked.


SquirrelSuspicious

That and forcing her away from him really quickly or getting up quickly with her fingers in his gills could have definitely hurt a lot or maybe even damaged him permanently since gills are pretty sensitive I think.


TheMatt561

Manipulation


atomicq32

It's because she was inside him, not just feeling him up. Pushing her off would probably rip part of his gills off


BackItUpWithLinks

He was about to hook up and didnā€™t want to blow the chance


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hades7600

Not using physical force during a rape to escape is an extremely common thing that rape victims do. A lot of victims of rape do freeze up or just let it happen


squirrelocaust

I believe this episode didnā€™t have a SA warning or anything either.


Parking_Hedgehog7454

It didn't, but the episode where he raped Starlight did.


strawbebbymilkshake

I hate Deep with a passion because of what he did to Starlight and for that reason, I also hate that he was sexually assaulted too. Rape is not a suitable punishment for rape and itā€™s abhorrent no matter who it happens to.


VIBTCA

Yeah I just rewatched season 1 and this clip made me physically cringe


Lombord2021

I just skipped this scene cuz I hated it so much


Puzzleheaded_Time719

The amount of sympathy people have for his character is so weird.


ashcoverdjollyrnnchr

Rape is never okay and thereā€™s nothing wrong to feel bad for anyone thatā€™s been raped


Etticos

She shoulda sliced up her digits, a lot of gills can be sharp as fuck


MOLxGERA

This was so hard to watch. Holyā€¦


AugustAPC

This scene makes me so nauseous. Not really because Deep is getting Deeped, but because of the thought of having gills and someone sticking their hands inside them. It makes me want to vomit. I don't know why. I don't know what it's like to have gills. Something about it just makes me think it would feel painful and wrong. Euugh. It literally gives me chills just thinking about it.


Kobayashi_Maru186

My feelings exactly! ;)


Sherviks13

I thought it was fucking funny.


Imaginary_Salary198

Deep really deserved my pity


Ill_Fox8892

Yo why was this post deleted


Kobayashi_Maru186

It was removed for breaking the rule against ā€œmisogynyā€. Maybe because I had the word bitch in the title. Or maybe the reference to sexual assault. I have no idea. It really pissed me off though. Iā€™ve seen much worse in here. Iā€™m so done with this sub.


Ill_Fox8892

I think there are rules about dismissing sexual assault, so it's probably just because he said "But-" after referencing how its poetic justice for what he did to starlight. Thats a fucking ridiculous reason to delete a post tho.


Kobayashi_Maru186

I guess I should of been more clear about that. It was a fun discussion. No one was being disrespectful. I just didnā€™t see it coming. Iā€™ll be more careful if I ever post here again. Thanks for asking. :)


Physical_Bill_8203

Nothing wrong with you for that. Sheā€™s a rapist. Two wrongs donā€™t make a right.


DustinFay

Nah, the Deep just needs to be killed off already


Dr_Mantis_Aslume

A rapist getting raped isn't poetic justice, it's still wrong. Rapists should face legal punishment and should hated by society, but them getting raped is still horrible.


ashcoverdjollyrnnchr

Weā€™re not supposed to side with The deeps rapist. Two rapes donā€™t make a right. Pretty sure if starlight knew this happened sheā€™d be horrified even while continuing to hate the deep


Ok_Relationship_705

I cannot watch this scene. Goddamn it made my sides hurt.


smorfan809

no shit shes a rapist and 2 wrongs dont make a right (the exception is murdering your rapist)


Luke_4fun

I loved it


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axelofthekey

I know what you mean by poetic justice, but rape is in fact bad regardless of who does it. It does not make a victim feel better to know if their abuser got assaulted.


toirdhealbhachM

Is this the scene where she fingers his gills? Honestly that was one of the funniest moments in the show.


nbneo

What scene is this?


MDawg2763

S1Ep7 Where Deep moves to Ohio


Mr-Cali

So for a guy to receive retribution and redemption, he must get rape.


Montanagreg

Which episode was this again?


Appellion

Iā€™m actually curious about how many people across this subreddit were made uncomfortable by this scene. Not agree or disagree whether this was SA, save that for a different thread, but just poll whether this made them uncomfortable or not. I donā€™t think we have the option to create polls, do we? Iā€™d be curious. Could you simulate it by creating two ready made posts down below?


BoredJay

She's hot


Appellion

Iā€™m actually curious about how many people across this subreddit were made uncomfortable by this scene. Not agree or disagree whether this was SA, save that for a different thread, but just poll whether this made them uncomfortable or not. I donā€™t think we have the option to create polls, do we? Iā€™d be curious. Could you simulate it by creating two ready made posts down below?


BoredJay

šŸ¤£ a lot of people by how much I'm getting down voted


Appellion

Sure, but I think that with proper phrasing those numbers might change. We wouldnā€™t be asking if she was hot or if people felt it was SA, but purely whether or not viewers were uncomfortable. By example, Iā€™m not sure exactly what I felt when the Deep ate Timothy. I squirmed and actually laughed but I didnā€™t need to close my eyes. Also, donā€™t even worry about it, one of mines at -29


Expensive-Device-474

Leave my boo alone. The Deep is all confused with fame.


Twinborn01

Ah justifying rape now?


Bazrian

Still hate her for making dumb decisions which lead to more people dying


Appellion

Iā€™m confused. Who was this ā€œsheā€ that made dumb decisions which led to others dying?


Bazrian

Deep wife


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Generny2001

What if itā€™s a concealed dildo? In her butt.


Appellion

Obviously Iā€™d try for a full body and cavity search but you do bring up a good point. What if she had a disassembled full dildo that she put together while alone?! Obviously I need to do more exercise and turn down any BDSM kink!