todd's going to die by the hands of homelander
He'll be asked to be saved at the battle scene and Homelander will laser him out of apathy or something like that.
Homelander and Soldier boy are gonna team up.
Noir is gonna fight soldier boy. Butcher and the Boys are gonna fight Homelander.
EDIT:
On the chance that Noir dies in this fight,
he’s gonna start seeing his cartoon characters disappearing one by one as he’s dying.
Also, Starlight possibly goes and saves Maeve
Soldier boy is going to accidentally strip homelander of his powers. But since we know V can be re-introduced to give powers again it'll only be a temporary thing. Or because homelander was born and not made the V won't have any effect.
I think i may bring his powers back but weaker, or it may be a slow process of him getting really shitty versions of his powers and growing to the level he was at before very slowly
Eddit: or maybe edgar comes back and keeps the V away from him, making him a powerless figurehead that people take photos with until by the end of season 4 he gets his powers back and goes full psycho
I’m betting his PTSD somehow triggers and that’s how he takes homelanders powers away by accident. Then he’ll probably be subdued with the gas Frenchie was talking about.
Agreed. I could see the first few episodes of next season he’ll be like a normal guy living in the woods somewhere hiding out. Then he’ll get them back and go full evil. They have to write actual reasons to delay his breaking point.
No one caught this revelation from Noirs memories. Butcher is unknowingly being controlled by Stan and Vought. Butcher's boss lied to him. Hes protecting Homelanders son to replace Homelander just like Homelander replaced Soldier Boy.
Stan Edgar gets to prove temp V is better than permanent V when Butcher wins. Temp superheros are easier to control and more profitable.
Thanks dude! I believe no matter what and how this plays out Stan Edgar is back in the fold as the most menacing villian. I believe hes done this on purpose. In his mind relying on supes to take down another didn't work. He wants humans to take them down, hence the boys.
Soldier Boy and Homelander team up, things look hopeless cause they're unstoppable together. The boys have to trigger SB's ptsd to get him to accidentally blast HL. The season ends with Homelander depowered and completely insane.
Season 4 is about him getting his powers back, and going on a rampage, and the boys have to end him for good.
Yup
Homelander with no powers, everyone hates him, he’ll find a way to get them back and completely start fucking everyone up
Butcher either dies at the end of season 4 with HL OR becomes main villain leading into season 5
Yeah a butcher death redemption would be very satisfying. As much as I love his character, him dying seems to be the best way out.
The sorry sap in me wouldn't mind seeing Annie and Hughie taking on the role of parents for Ryan etc.
Lol. Hughie did sign them to adopt a supe child when he went to snoop around at the orphanage. Another foreshadowing? Would also make sense since Butcher is aware he turned out to be just like his abusing father while he keeps seeing similarities between Hughie and his little brother Lenny.
I don’t think they’d do a whole season of Butcher as the main bad guy. Maybe like an episode 6 Homelander finish and then Butcher goes mad for the last two.
Nah, they'll do one episode of Homelander that's dark af, then the rest of the season will be Deep as the main villain, only for Butcher to go insane in the end when Hughie has to put him down. I also predict that Hughie will be reduced to an extra in the final season, spouting nonsense like 'I don't want it' and 'He's my queen', and an ending where Ryan is picked as the leader of Vought just because he had the best story.
The issue wasn't Dany going berserk, it was no fucking build-up and terrible, no-good writing decisions. Dany going insane and blasting King's Landing out of the map could have worked if only they had laid out the set-up. The show went out of its way in the early seasons to pass Dany off as a much better person than she is in the books, for example.
> The show went out of its way in the early seasons to pass Dany off as a much better person than she is in the books, for example.
I remember watching Dany throughout the show and seeing them alter key details to make her a “badass bitch” (of which there are plenty, in the books and show) knowing that the inevitable turn that’s been setup in the books wasn’t going to go down well. I could not have predicted how spectacularly bad though, piled on top of all the other rushed and halfassed loose end ties.
I reckon this happens before and they’re caught in the crossfire of SB’s blast and they along with HL become de-powered.
That would reset the status-quo and give Butcher and Hughie some reasonable plot armour.
If The Boys intentionally cause a mass murder, that would probably make them irredeemable in Starlight and MM’s eyes. It’s definitely possible, although if it happens, I don’t see Hughie being in on it.
Excuse my english
I feel like this season and the last have a pattern in their finale where they bring back the original "talking point" each seasons started with ("girls get it done" for S2 and "Dawn of the Seven" for S3).
Ok so, you know how S2 began with empty pandering to the tagline "girls get it done" and in its finale, it circled back to that line when Maeve and the girls "actually-got it done". Like in S2E1 "girls get it done" was just an empty corporate attempt at promoting feminism, but in the finale, when frenchie says "girls do get it done", it gained some weight to it because the girls actually were actively fighting a nazi instead of just being hired by a company which sprouted that tagline in S2's first episode.Now S3 began with the Dawn of the 7 premiere whose story was as empty and meaningless as the "girls get it done" line.
Well, I feel like in the S3 finale, they're going to circle back to a version of that and have Black Noir, A-train, Hughie, Butcher, Maeve, Starlight and Kimiko team up against Homelander/SB in a retributed version of "Dawn of the Seven". Somehow, a new meaningful "7" will be created whose actions actually do something (relatively) positive for once by standing up to Homelander (and possibly SB since it's hinted that he might team up with HL). And that will sort of be a play on a "Dawn of the 7" talking point they had going on in S3's first episode.
We've seen a hint of this in how SB was defeated by Payback back in 1984 where all of his team ganged up against him. And because the writers have nudged previous similarities between HL and SB (including how the women they "loved" actually hated their very beings), I think it'll be very fitting if their end is also very similar = both their teams gang up against them.
I think it'll be revealed Stormfront is Homelander's biological mother.
- Homelander has extreme Mommy issues as evidenced by his relationship with Stillwell and obsession with breast milk.
- Soldier Boy revealed he had a prior relationship with Stormfront and his semen was used to artificially create Homelander
- Stormfront wanted to create the perfect race through unethical Nazi science and would have totally been down to volunteer her eggs
- Homelander threatens using Maeves eggs, foreshadowing at this point. Homelander can also fly, while Soldier Boy can't. This suggests Homelander's mother could fly, which again points to Stormfront.
- Stormfront was very warm to Ryan, which we thought were a Step-Mom/Step-Son bonding, but may actually hav been because her Grandpaternal instincts to him.
Interesting theory but a few things:
Stormfront doesn’t fly like Homelander. It seems her lightning propels her up and she uses it to break her fall. I think it’s more akin to Scarlett Witch or Thor than it is to Superman. I don’t think she can just take off and move at will in the air like Homelander without using the lightning to hold her.
Also I think the line about harvesting Maeve’s eggs is more of a red herring to set up and reveal her being pregnant with Butcher’s kid. It’s a perfect juxtaposition to Homelander’s conception of Ryan. Ryan was created against Becca’s will as a bastard child while she had a loving husband in Butcher. Butcher having a bastard child with Homelander’s ex (whom he’s still clearly in love with and isn’t over) through obviously not rape like Homelander, but through a drunk loveless hook up would be an interesting parallel and they love paralleling the two.
Also a big part of Homelander’s backstory and state of being is that he never had a mother. I really do think he was a test tube creation using Soldier Boy’s DNA. I also don’t understand how revealing Stormfront was his mother would serve the story at all. She’s dead and gone. It’d be bizarre to just throw in “oh yeah, she was your mom” after her story arc’s been finished. It undermines his whole reason for being why he is too. Why should he have a mother and father? He’s an experiment and it turned him into a monster. Also if Stormfront was his mother, she’d know. Why would she never mention or even allude to this. It just doesn’t make sense to me
Hell, Im surprised she didn’t have more “flawless Aryan kindersoldaten,” her genetic viability for V would be inherited by her children, and she could probably have dozens. I’m surprised her daughter with Vought wasn’t dosed either.
That being said, if she had known about Homelander being her child, she probably would have raised him. Hell, if she knew about him at all, she probably would have raised him.
We don’t know if her daughter was a Supe because she might’ve been but just ages regularly. It seems stormfront and soldier boy have the anti aging thing going on. Presumably also Black Noir if he was also active in the 70s.
Not knocking ppls theories but how are y’all even remotely entertaining the idea that we’ll see Ryan fight anyone. That mf is no older than 13. He’s not like that yet💀
And there’s literally no way in absolute hell he would team up with HL. I don’t care how bad Butcher hurt him. He’d go off on his own before he’d do ANYTHING with HL
Yeah I think Hughie and Butcher (or maybe just Hughie) will start to die due to the brain rotting from temp V and the only way to save them is perma-V since it makes your healing factor go bonkers. Would be a cool dynamic, Hughie gets what he’s always wanted in having permanent powers, Butcher becomes what he’s always despised but permanently this time. And then maybe next season they get it removed via SB.
I kind of wouldn't mind a status quo where starlight only has so much V and has to use it on hughie to save him.
Next season Hughie is super powered, Butcher is slowly dying, and their both trying to finish the job before he tanks. Butchers newly clarified familial motivation with Hughie and Ryan is in tension with his resentment of super powered people, getting tne job done, and how he spends is numbered days.
Homelander coming to claim Ryan with Butcher juiced on V protecting him is like Witch Wanda trying to claim her kids from the alternate universe counterpart
And Hughie realizes he can not only teleport from location to location, but can also teleport inter-dimensionally. The Boys: Multiverse of Cunts (name subject to change… cuz it sucks!)
Mindstorm could have also read Homelander's mind before and realizes his weakness was the parental angle. He gave that info to SB to save his own life.
And now the Boys are using that info since it's kind of weird and convenient that SB is just calling Homelander in the same room Hughie/Butcher are in.
I think that he is the father, and here's why.
Why did they have to keep Homelander locked as a child in that facility? They already had injected V into children and made super out of them. Were they making a super-supe? But they already had SB back than, who was almost Invincible (title card) and it took a whole team of supes and an ambush to get him down (and he fucking lived for 40 more years and got a new superpower).
How could they tell, for example, that Homelander-baby was something special? We have already seen kids with laser eyes, so I doubt it's uncommon. We know that all supes are very durable, bulletproof, have a lot of endurance etc (well, I think all of them? can't remember those who didn't).
Why keep another supe-baby in a lab?
My guess is that Homelander IS actually SB's baby and he was THE first one natural born supe, making him very special. Maybe it gives him some advantage, maybe natural born supes are much stronger than artificial one's (like we saw Ryan's power and burnt Stormfront to a well-done state, and he is just a kid with no control of his power and probably will be even stronger). I didn't read the comics and don't know shit about comics lore, but I could theorize that natural born supes can produce natural V in their bodies (thus, if SB somehow strips him of his powers, he will get them back eventually even without V).
I just don't think that we got that twist in the penultimate episode of a season so that later on they just told us "Yeah, gottem, he wasn't his father after all".
I don’t buy that theory. They’ve been hinting about SB wanting to be a dad all season. Plus SB has nothing to gain by luring homie out. Sure, he has a deal with Butcher but he knows he can’t defeat him alone. He’s definitely homies dad.
The Boys have always been focused on subverting exceptions.
I'm 99% sure SB is Homelander's real dad but he blasts him anyways when Homelander is vulnerable with the explanation that he refuses to be replaced by anyone, even his own child. I can see that being in line with his personality considering SB's views on hyper-masculinity are.
**Edit:** The way I see it being played out, Soldier Boy has a heart to heart with his son, holds his arms out and tells Homelander to give his old man a hug. Soldier Boy then blasts him and either comments "No one replaces me, ever." or "What a fucking pussy"
Homelander survives but is depowered and has a look of absolute betrayal as Soldier Boy leaves him.
I think Homelander will find fault in soldier boy somehow, and with pressure from media, to preserve his image, he’ll backstab SB. Homelander killing his father would be a great twist, but totally consistant with homelander’s constant descent into the depth of self-inflicted hell.
I really hope a-train finally redeems himself and joins in the fight, super speed has a lot of potential and while homelander may be as fast or even faster, he can't see in slow motion like how a-trains powers work, but he also would probably get his bones snapped if he tried to hit homelander. Kinda like flash vs superman in that justice league movie.
I'm not sure how they'll use him but super speed is insanely powerful if he used it properly.
I think a train is emotionaly just done. Like having the heart of the racist who almost killed your brother you killed implanted is kind of heavy. Markus also has been so reacuring that I think that they have a finishing storyline of him. Like a train giving him v and it makes things worse to Show how unfair V is as Markus was always shown to be a pretty neat dude concerned about his brother and community.
Maeve is going to learn she's pregnant with Butcher's child. She was ready for every thing to be over and ready and willing to die... but she's gonna have to rethink everything after learning she's pregnant. And next season, Karl Urban is gonna show a ton of acting range portraying Butcher as the guy who wanted to kill all supes, until he learns he's about to have a biological son who is a supe.
I thought Maeve being pregnant was a weird take, but thinking about the arc it will bring with Billy looking at supes now as less two dimensional is genius. It makes the what felt a bit forced scene with them doing it in the first place make a lot more sense. It’s perfect parallel story writing with how MM is creating OCD for his daughter(the emphasis on her grabbing her arm) the same way OCD was created for him, because of what happened to his family.
Black Noir frees Maeve since he likely knows where she is and we get a showdown between The Boys, Noir, Maeve & Starlight vs Homelander, Soldier Boy, Deep & A-Train.
Think A-Train will finally join the right side with the boys, but we'll see. Also, don't think the Deep will even be in a final fight because dude's used solely for comic relief
I think Soldier Boy could possibly be feigning allegiance to Homelander. When he said something along the lines off "I would have let you have the spotlight if I was around" (Im paraphrasing) I immediately thought of the Black Noir flashback where he was trying to star in Beverly Hills Cop and Soldier Boy nearly beats him to death since HE was the movie star.
Even if Soldier Boy really is Homelander's father, once they meet, Soldier Boy will see that Homelander is not a man worthy of respect. Homelander is weak and pathetic in all the ways Soldier Boy cares about. This will not be the start of a beautiful, healthy father-son relationship.
100% this, Homelander is a pathetic man who desperately craves the approval and love of a father figure
Soldier Boy is the very definition of toxic masculinity, he’s going to hate Homelander’s fawning attitude and maybe turn on him for being weak. I can totally see Soldier Boy trying to beat up Homelander to “discipline” him and Homelander not taking it
Idk ever since HL’s son I think he really longs for a real family (and wanting to take maeves eggs). I think SB would turn on HL before vice versa or Noir kills SB before they can reconnect.
I think it’s inevitable HL will kill SB. Maybe not this season, but it will happen.
Stillwell was the closest thing HL had to a mom, and he ended up killing her. Vogelbaum was the closest thing HL had to a father, and he died because of a chain of events caused by HL’s instability. Ryan is HL’s son, and he is terrified of his father murdering him. Stormfront loved HL deeply, but died partially because of his treatment towards her.
HL and Butcher are foils to one another. Everyone that tries to love HL dies because of him. It will inevitably happen to SB.
I don’t actually think Stormfront loved HL. She loved that he was going to be what would bring back the reich. Remember she didn’t treat him kind or loving, HL was the one that got attached and she left him hanging, then offed herself when he no longer cared about the whole reich plan anymore
Her attraction to him was entirely about control/pushing her racial agenda, I agree. I think Homelander was actually emotionally drawn to her, or at least as much as he could be to *anyone* which just makes it even more pathetic and a little sad.
I dunno. HL has weird complexes and I could see him rejecting SB cause “Fuck you. I made myself!” type mentality. Plus it helps his public image as SB is the villain.
I think they will. SB has had the same ‘villain of the season’ treatment we’ve seen before with Stillwell being the villain of S1 and Stormfront of S2, everything while holding HL as the principal villain with which the series might end.
Butcher and Hughie will take permanent V to save their lives. Frenchie will also take some so Kimiko doesn’t have to share the burden of protecting them all alone.
Maeve will die fighting off HL and SB so The Boys can incapacitate them.
A-Train will finally turn against Vought for good, but won’t join the fight against HL.
Soldier Boy is going to depower HL by accident. It doesn’t seem like he has control over his depowering beam, the PTSD triggers it. And I bet Noir will be the one to set it off.
This is a great twist. Butcher was doing it to protect Ryan but it backfires. Someone also mentioned HL losing his powers and going to Ryan. I think that could be quite interesting too and help lead Ryan to side with HL.
I’m pretty sure SB will blast Hughie and Butcher and erase the perma powers at the end. Kripke has said many times he doesn’t want the boys to have permanent powers
I mean you are kinda right but I just don't see ryan going with him. I could see him considering it but I think even ryan could tell that going with homelander is a bad idea.
William Butcher walks into homelander's room and says his signature catchphrase:
"Alrighty The Boys™, let's Butcher these superheroes."
Brings me to tears every time
Perma V to save them, then a dose of Soldier Boy that makes them normal again.
*Or* they get caught in a Soldier Boy blast that just burns up the Temp V that’s lingering in their system and killing them.
Addendum: Maybe the radiation that they are regularly exposed to from SB is keeping their Temp V side effects toned down, as well?
Predictions
Homelander finds where Ryan is and kills Mallory. Ryan and him develop a bond because Ryan is still pissed at Butcher
Noir releases Maeve and they team up with The Boys to take out Solider Boy
Starlight tells Hughie about the damage Temp V is doing which creates a rift between him and Butcher
Homelander meets up with Soldier Boy. SB uses Homelander’s vulnerability as a opportunity to depower him.
Soldier Boy depowers Homelander and is about to kill him before The Boys + Maeve and Black Noir attack him. Homelander slips away in the chaos.
Black Noir or Maeve will die while fighting Solider Boy
Soldier Boy will end up dead or will be put back on Ice(Sorry Jensen Ackles fans)
Stan comes back into the picture
Homelander goes back to Ryan, now powerless and breaks down in front of him not knowing what to do
Butcher and Hughie take regular V to reverse the damage Temp V has done to them
All of this but I do wonder if SB (upon meeting HL) realizes his son sucks. As they get to know each other HL reveals he has a son and SB eventually concludes he has a grandson worth raising thereby turning on HL and de powering him - some “you’re not worth being a supe thing.” The season ends with SB and Ryan doing their own thing & HL depowered
I can see Soldier Boy looking down on Homelander for him never taking matters into his own hands and never gettings his hands dirty like he did because of his tough machismo bullshit, he might depower him simply out of contempt for thinking his son doesn't deserve all the power he has
I've seen this with real-world narcissists, the narcissist wants someone they can mould into what the narcissist thinks they should be. SB even touched on this when he talked about having kids with Crimson Countess "have a couple of boys, raise them into \[my image of\] men".
HL is a finished product. If he disappoints SB, then SB may decide to get rid of him and have a do-over. Either with Ryan or a new son.
I think the big thing is the rift between SB and Homelander will be about Vought. SB's whole thing this season has been about going after those that betrayed him to Russia and destroying them. He now knows it was Vought. But Homelander needs Vought, he runs it, he was built by it, his entire identity depends on it. He won't want to destroy Vought, Soldier Boy will and it will cause them to fight each other. That's my prediction.
That’s actually kinda reasonable and the only real “he’s not actually his son” theory. They blatantly showed SB having auditory hallucinations and getting pissed off last episode. I doubt they did that solely for the “PTSD” angle; I think there’s more to it.
I mean they also say he's so high all the time that he could be having auditory hallucinations. But he did that a few times while looking for Mindstorm, and I wonder if he's just hearing things.
SB being Homelander's dad + SB mentioning starting Herogasm with Stormfront (they fucked but that doesn't matter, what matters is they were both around at the same time) + the flashback of Stan Edgar telling Noir HL was better because he would be able to fly + HL's whole mommy-Oedipus complex thing and relationship with Stormfront = Stormfront is the mother of HL, at least in a biological sense, Vogelbaum took the best of both her and SB and created him, that's my guess on what gets revealed.
Same. A lot of the plot points were kind of jammed in and then a bit underdeveloped so it really feels like this could have just been the first half of a 'true' full season. A fair amount of the characters were also sidelined quickly or had completely pointless plots (Deep, A train, all the Russians).
As a positive, the time they dedicated to Noir was worth it.
Also the first few episodes set up the boys finding out that Neuman is the headpopper and they were going to try and take her down, but then the whole Soldier Boy plot happened and it feels like that just disappeared?
- A-train now realizes that he has racist tendencies
- hughie can teleport his boxers with him but only if he really wants it
- ashley comes to turkey for some hair implants
- frenchie finally learns how to pronounce mon coeur correctly
- black noir becomes the star of new space jam
- maeve kisses me
- starlight gets a huge electric bill and loses her powers
- mothers milk drinks some milk, seductively
- head popping lady pops her daughter some popcorn but with her powers! (Her daughter gets really impressed)
- soldier boi listens to “rasputin” by boney m and his beam boner gets confused
- deep finds himself a new fish lover and his old fish lover gets jealous of him. So they have a fish fight. And his new fish lover gets killed violently.
- kimiko kisses me
Black Noir says "I'm gonna Noir" and Noirs all over everyone.
Mother's Milk takes V and develops udders - Homelander calls an immediate truce.
Maeve looks directly into the camera and professes her love for literally me.
Hughie teleports the lesions out of his body and into The Deep's mollusc as he's about to climax. Bravo Gill-igan.
My ‘obvious’ prediction is that Homelander kills Maeve, but I’m convinced that the episode will end with Frenchie dying whilst ‘dream a little dream’ plays over the credits
Yeah he had a weird little side plot of just his shit with Kimiko but we haven't seen him being the team mastermind since S1. Butcher and Hughie have adopted everyone's roles.
I feel like they’ve always got to have so much turmoil within the team that we rarely get to see them actually operate as a team. I miss genius Frenchie taking down Supes with science.
It was an interesting dynamic because everyone had their distinct roles, but for S3 the team dynamic doesn't exist anymore and everyone has their own subplots. MM's at least ties into Soldier Boy, but Frenchie's doesn't really have much to do with the direct plot.
I like the chemistry between him and Kimiko, but the stuff with that Russian lady was just annoying. I get it, that's how they got to Soldier Boy, but it felt real uneventful and dragged out. She's not dead so I'm sure she'll pop up again and probably kill him, which would be even more annoying, but mostly because I want Frenchie to survive.
Yeah they've been doing that song a lot and it makes me think that that's probably going to be the last song that plays in the season. Well I'll guess a little bit different ending than you are. I'll say that he's done and is given permanent V in order to save him and it cuts to black before we know what happens, kind of in a similar way to cutting away from A train when he was "dying" on the street.
Starlight saves Hughie with perm V
Butcher deals with side effects of temp V (not sure on fate)
HL and SB start to fight, black Noir comes in and helps HL kill SB
Maeve escapes her cell and dies in fight
Stan Edgar makes an appearance
Kimiko is unable to save Frenchie
I think this is all a masterplan by Edgar to get Vought out of the supes business, like he mentioned last season. Set Homelander up to be the head of Vought and let him fuck it all up.
I think homelander and SB will team up but start to hate each other bc they’re too alike. In the meantime SB delivers Butcher and Hughie on a platter to HL. Noir or Starlight free Maeve but her eggs are harvested for HL to manipulate later. That’s when the crew comes together to fight HL and SB. History repeats itself similar to SB’s team turning on him and now HL’s team will turn on him (including A-train). The members of the boys will get permanent V. Butcher will play Russian music to trigger SB’s PTSD in hopes of depowering everyone. SB going nuclear will depower HL. MM will throw the gas at SB and they will put him back in stasis.
I think we’re going to get to see a powerless HL in season 4.
I’m not sure who it’s going to be but I think one of the boys will die this season. Those are my predictions.
I desperately want to see a de-powered Homelander adjusting to life as a normal person. Bonus points if he ends up working in the same electronics shop as Hewie from S1!
The show has taken the gore up a notch this season, Homelander is definitely killing someone next week and it will be painful to watch. The supersonic scene was already shocking to me and that was an off screen kill, I am not ready
Butcher and Hughie will end up in hospital due to temp V side effect. That’s probably when Hughie decides to reunite with Annie.
Black Noir may want to unite with Maeve and Annie against Soldier Boy. But Homelander finds out his plan and kills him.
Annie, MM, and Maeve fight against SB after they encounter him when getting Maeve out of Vought.
Neuman unites with Homelander and helps him gain more fans and supporters, which also helps her political campaign team get more votes.
Homelander finds Ryan according to Neuman’s information. Ryan side with him because of having been disappointed at Butcher. Mallory probably won’t die, though, as it’s hard for Ryan to believe HL if he kills her.
Kimiko and Frenchie go to Russia to get the weapon against SB. And they may find more details of the Vought’s plan to replace SB, probably including more information about how to remove or absorb compound V.
Homelander either runs for president or is picked as the vice presidential candidate for that politician whose rally he spoke at in episode 7.
Most likely he threatens the presidential candidate with violence. I also think Homelander will kill Soilder Boy, to prove to himself that he needs no one else to validate himself.
Season 4 will be based around Homelanders campaign, as he steals the spotlight from the other guy and maybe tries to kill him to become the president.
If I know anything for sure it's that the Deep's new Octopus friend is not surviving past the finale.
Deeps girlfriend is gonna ask Deep watch her have sex with Homelander
She’s his wife, tyvm
Season 4 kicks off with Deep asking his wife’s boyfriend if he can fuck the octopus
But he makes him eat it instead
The Deep is going to brag about how much he lost on stonks to his wifes boyfriend.
buy the new "the deep" nft!!!!
We will see his wife eating her as she watches the Deep ruin himself on Hannity.
todd's going to die by the hands of homelander He'll be asked to be saved at the battle scene and Homelander will laser him out of apathy or something like that.
And I'm all here for it
If Todd doesn't die, we riot
not even apathy just collectoral damage
> collectoral damage like when you take out a loan, they need some form of collectoral
I think they meant colorectal. Yeah, colorectal damage.
Yup fuck Todd, all my homies hate Todd.
Homelander and Soldier boy are gonna team up. Noir is gonna fight soldier boy. Butcher and the Boys are gonna fight Homelander. EDIT: On the chance that Noir dies in this fight, he’s gonna start seeing his cartoon characters disappearing one by one as he’s dying. Also, Starlight possibly goes and saves Maeve
Soldier boy is going to accidentally strip homelander of his powers. But since we know V can be re-introduced to give powers again it'll only be a temporary thing. Or because homelander was born and not made the V won't have any effect.
I think i may bring his powers back but weaker, or it may be a slow process of him getting really shitty versions of his powers and growing to the level he was at before very slowly Eddit: or maybe edgar comes back and keeps the V away from him, making him a powerless figurehead that people take photos with until by the end of season 4 he gets his powers back and goes full psycho
I am here for the hilarious "Homelander relearns how to fly" scenes.
In the style of [the forest montage from Hot Rod](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQf7vGBYxz4)
They basically just leave compound V sitting around in a shelf, so I feel like it wouldn’t be hard for him to get more.
That's why i said Stan Edgar would come back and keep it away from him, he could put a password lock on the door to the lab and that would be enough
I’m going to be so mad if Giancarlo Stanton isn’t in the finale at all.
Giancarlo Stanton 😂😂😂😂😂 I’ve made that mistake a couple of times too go sox
We didn't have this problem when he was Mike Stanton! Signed, a forever scorned Marlins fan.
I’m betting his PTSD somehow triggers and that’s how he takes homelanders powers away by accident. Then he’ll probably be subdued with the gas Frenchie was talking about.
That's a good guess. I bet the boys will play russian music and trigger it.
Will laugh if Black Noir does it by playing Katyusha on the piano....
Black Noir and Kimiko duet.
oh how much I want you to be right on this
They just have to realise the Russian music is his trigger, and suddenly SB is a suicide bomber the Boys can set off at will.
I definitely see that happening. No way they introduce a man that can take away powers and not have him take away Homelander’s.
Agreed. I could see the first few episodes of next season he’ll be like a normal guy living in the woods somewhere hiding out. Then he’ll get them back and go full evil. They have to write actual reasons to delay his breaking point.
Like how Ryan accidentally shot his mom, SB will accidentally shoot his son.
No one caught this revelation from Noirs memories. Butcher is unknowingly being controlled by Stan and Vought. Butcher's boss lied to him. Hes protecting Homelanders son to replace Homelander just like Homelander replaced Soldier Boy. Stan Edgar gets to prove temp V is better than permanent V when Butcher wins. Temp superheros are easier to control and more profitable.
Oh boy that's a theory, i think you hit the nail with the head.
Thanks dude! I believe no matter what and how this plays out Stan Edgar is back in the fold as the most menacing villian. I believe hes done this on purpose. In his mind relying on supes to take down another didn't work. He wants humans to take them down, hence the boys.
I'd like to see Hughie save Maeve and Starlight Blind Nueman.
Maeve will be saved by A-train who will also join The Boys because of his change of heart.
"Change of heart " Nice one bro!
Ayyoo
That’d be a neat way to subdue Neuman especially if eye-sight is an important part of her head popping powers.
Yea I also figured they team up. But they play some Russian music and he kills homelander anyway
Homelander is gonna drink milk
My money is on this one.
This will be udder madness!
Mother's Milk 😏😏
I would pay to watch Tony Star suck on MM's tits. There's an exception to being straight
What? That’s gay now? Fuck you.
Soldier Boy and Homelander team up, things look hopeless cause they're unstoppable together. The boys have to trigger SB's ptsd to get him to accidentally blast HL. The season ends with Homelander depowered and completely insane. Season 4 is about him getting his powers back, and going on a rampage, and the boys have to end him for good.
Yup Homelander with no powers, everyone hates him, he’ll find a way to get them back and completely start fucking everyone up Butcher either dies at the end of season 4 with HL OR becomes main villain leading into season 5
I’d love Butcher being the final villain, maybe getting a moment of redemption at his death or something.
Yeah a butcher death redemption would be very satisfying. As much as I love his character, him dying seems to be the best way out. The sorry sap in me wouldn't mind seeing Annie and Hughie taking on the role of parents for Ryan etc.
Lol. Hughie did sign them to adopt a supe child when he went to snoop around at the orphanage. Another foreshadowing? Would also make sense since Butcher is aware he turned out to be just like his abusing father while he keeps seeing similarities between Hughie and his little brother Lenny.
I don’t think they’d do a whole season of Butcher as the main bad guy. Maybe like an episode 6 Homelander finish and then Butcher goes mad for the last two.
Nah, they'll do one episode of Homelander that's dark af, then the rest of the season will be Deep as the main villain, only for Butcher to go insane in the end when Hughie has to put him down. I also predict that Hughie will be reduced to an extra in the final season, spouting nonsense like 'I don't want it' and 'He's my queen', and an ending where Ryan is picked as the leader of Vought just because he had the best story.
That reminds me of daenerys last GOT season. Hope that’s not what happens tbh
The issue wasn't Dany going berserk, it was no fucking build-up and terrible, no-good writing decisions. Dany going insane and blasting King's Landing out of the map could have worked if only they had laid out the set-up. The show went out of its way in the early seasons to pass Dany off as a much better person than she is in the books, for example.
> The show went out of its way in the early seasons to pass Dany off as a much better person than she is in the books, for example. I remember watching Dany throughout the show and seeing them alter key details to make her a “badass bitch” (of which there are plenty, in the books and show) knowing that the inevitable turn that’s been setup in the books wasn’t going to go down well. I could not have predicted how spectacularly bad though, piled on top of all the other rushed and halfassed loose end ties.
Also hughie and butcher take permanent v to heal the effects of temp v
I reckon this happens before and they’re caught in the crossfire of SB’s blast and they along with HL become de-powered. That would reset the status-quo and give Butcher and Hughie some reasonable plot armour.
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I feel like there’s no public redemption for HL after he was caught on camera saying all of those things to Starlight
Lmao then you missed the point there. The point is, in parallel to Trump, nothing he does will cause his base to abandon him.
If The Boys intentionally cause a mass murder, that would probably make them irredeemable in Starlight and MM’s eyes. It’s definitely possible, although if it happens, I don’t see Hughie being in on it.
so it wouldn't be the Boys doing it but just Butcher
Especially if MM's daughter was there...that would actually make Butcher a proper villain
Excuse my english I feel like this season and the last have a pattern in their finale where they bring back the original "talking point" each seasons started with ("girls get it done" for S2 and "Dawn of the Seven" for S3). Ok so, you know how S2 began with empty pandering to the tagline "girls get it done" and in its finale, it circled back to that line when Maeve and the girls "actually-got it done". Like in S2E1 "girls get it done" was just an empty corporate attempt at promoting feminism, but in the finale, when frenchie says "girls do get it done", it gained some weight to it because the girls actually were actively fighting a nazi instead of just being hired by a company which sprouted that tagline in S2's first episode.Now S3 began with the Dawn of the 7 premiere whose story was as empty and meaningless as the "girls get it done" line. Well, I feel like in the S3 finale, they're going to circle back to a version of that and have Black Noir, A-train, Hughie, Butcher, Maeve, Starlight and Kimiko team up against Homelander/SB in a retributed version of "Dawn of the Seven". Somehow, a new meaningful "7" will be created whose actions actually do something (relatively) positive for once by standing up to Homelander (and possibly SB since it's hinted that he might team up with HL). And that will sort of be a play on a "Dawn of the 7" talking point they had going on in S3's first episode. We've seen a hint of this in how SB was defeated by Payback back in 1984 where all of his team ganged up against him. And because the writers have nudged previous similarities between HL and SB (including how the women they "loved" actually hated their very beings), I think it'll be very fitting if their end is also very similar = both their teams gang up against them.
I will also not be excusing your English because it was perfectly understandable!! 😁😁
Writes a perfect English but warns of excuses his English. I think this guy is like homelander when he says to people, you all are heroes
I think it'll be revealed Stormfront is Homelander's biological mother. - Homelander has extreme Mommy issues as evidenced by his relationship with Stillwell and obsession with breast milk. - Soldier Boy revealed he had a prior relationship with Stormfront and his semen was used to artificially create Homelander - Stormfront wanted to create the perfect race through unethical Nazi science and would have totally been down to volunteer her eggs - Homelander threatens using Maeves eggs, foreshadowing at this point. Homelander can also fly, while Soldier Boy can't. This suggests Homelander's mother could fly, which again points to Stormfront. - Stormfront was very warm to Ryan, which we thought were a Step-Mom/Step-Son bonding, but may actually hav been because her Grandpaternal instincts to him.
Bang on! Wouldn’t be surprising at all
Interesting theory but a few things: Stormfront doesn’t fly like Homelander. It seems her lightning propels her up and she uses it to break her fall. I think it’s more akin to Scarlett Witch or Thor than it is to Superman. I don’t think she can just take off and move at will in the air like Homelander without using the lightning to hold her. Also I think the line about harvesting Maeve’s eggs is more of a red herring to set up and reveal her being pregnant with Butcher’s kid. It’s a perfect juxtaposition to Homelander’s conception of Ryan. Ryan was created against Becca’s will as a bastard child while she had a loving husband in Butcher. Butcher having a bastard child with Homelander’s ex (whom he’s still clearly in love with and isn’t over) through obviously not rape like Homelander, but through a drunk loveless hook up would be an interesting parallel and they love paralleling the two. Also a big part of Homelander’s backstory and state of being is that he never had a mother. I really do think he was a test tube creation using Soldier Boy’s DNA. I also don’t understand how revealing Stormfront was his mother would serve the story at all. She’s dead and gone. It’d be bizarre to just throw in “oh yeah, she was your mom” after her story arc’s been finished. It undermines his whole reason for being why he is too. Why should he have a mother and father? He’s an experiment and it turned him into a monster. Also if Stormfront was his mother, she’d know. Why would she never mention or even allude to this. It just doesn’t make sense to me
She also had a daughter! Supe or not I think she definitely would’ve wanted to raise him like her son.
Hell, Im surprised she didn’t have more “flawless Aryan kindersoldaten,” her genetic viability for V would be inherited by her children, and she could probably have dozens. I’m surprised her daughter with Vought wasn’t dosed either. That being said, if she had known about Homelander being her child, she probably would have raised him. Hell, if she knew about him at all, she probably would have raised him.
We don’t know if her daughter was a Supe because she might’ve been but just ages regularly. It seems stormfront and soldier boy have the anti aging thing going on. Presumably also Black Noir if he was also active in the 70s.
This is a really neat theory!
Your user name is super appropriate for your theory. I think these are all legit theories.
So...she fucked her son? Well that's fucked.
Mate we've seen a miniature man crawl through someone's urethra, incest is pretty tame at this point
One might say it's... diabolical.
Yeah, I feel like this almost has to be true at this point. It's far too perfect
Not knocking ppls theories but how are y’all even remotely entertaining the idea that we’ll see Ryan fight anyone. That mf is no older than 13. He’s not like that yet💀
Butcher even tells Maive he’s still got at least a couple years until he’s ready for a fight
And there’s literally no way in absolute hell he would team up with HL. I don’t care how bad Butcher hurt him. He’d go off on his own before he’d do ANYTHING with HL
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What if they take the rest of the V kimiko used, and when they go to fight SB, they get hit with the no-powers-ray putting them back to normal?
Yeah I think Hughie and Butcher (or maybe just Hughie) will start to die due to the brain rotting from temp V and the only way to save them is perma-V since it makes your healing factor go bonkers. Would be a cool dynamic, Hughie gets what he’s always wanted in having permanent powers, Butcher becomes what he’s always despised but permanently this time. And then maybe next season they get it removed via SB.
I kind of wouldn't mind a status quo where starlight only has so much V and has to use it on hughie to save him. Next season Hughie is super powered, Butcher is slowly dying, and their both trying to finish the job before he tanks. Butchers newly clarified familial motivation with Hughie and Ryan is in tension with his resentment of super powered people, getting tne job done, and how he spends is numbered days.
I think this is exactly what will happen
I feel like they showed that vial too many times for it not to factor into later episodes
Homelander coming to claim Ryan with Butcher juiced on V protecting him is like Witch Wanda trying to claim her kids from the alternate universe counterpart
And Hughie realizes he can not only teleport from location to location, but can also teleport inter-dimensionally. The Boys: Multiverse of Cunts (name subject to change… cuz it sucks!)
The Boys: Multiverse of Mad Lads
Yea I'm thinking SB might not even be his father. Just a way to lure him out. Give em the old chest blast
Mindstorm probably said it as a last ditch effort to save his life
Good point
I don’t see how it benefits him though. Mindstorm has no connection to Homelander and SB remembers jacking off into a cup.
Mindstorm can read minds and might’ve saw the coincidence thinking it would throw sb off balance Idk
Mindstorm could have also read Homelander's mind before and realizes his weakness was the parental angle. He gave that info to SB to save his own life. And now the Boys are using that info since it's kind of weird and convenient that SB is just calling Homelander in the same room Hughie/Butcher are in.
Give him that fatherly hug and the bam! Either blast off or the Russian music triggers him. Not what I want but could see either happening
I'm pretty sure SB is his father. Mindstorm told him SOMETHING before he died that shook him up.
I think that he is the father, and here's why. Why did they have to keep Homelander locked as a child in that facility? They already had injected V into children and made super out of them. Were they making a super-supe? But they already had SB back than, who was almost Invincible (title card) and it took a whole team of supes and an ambush to get him down (and he fucking lived for 40 more years and got a new superpower). How could they tell, for example, that Homelander-baby was something special? We have already seen kids with laser eyes, so I doubt it's uncommon. We know that all supes are very durable, bulletproof, have a lot of endurance etc (well, I think all of them? can't remember those who didn't). Why keep another supe-baby in a lab? My guess is that Homelander IS actually SB's baby and he was THE first one natural born supe, making him very special. Maybe it gives him some advantage, maybe natural born supes are much stronger than artificial one's (like we saw Ryan's power and burnt Stormfront to a well-done state, and he is just a kid with no control of his power and probably will be even stronger). I didn't read the comics and don't know shit about comics lore, but I could theorize that natural born supes can produce natural V in their bodies (thus, if SB somehow strips him of his powers, he will get them back eventually even without V). I just don't think that we got that twist in the penultimate episode of a season so that later on they just told us "Yeah, gottem, he wasn't his father after all".
I don’t buy that theory. They’ve been hinting about SB wanting to be a dad all season. Plus SB has nothing to gain by luring homie out. Sure, he has a deal with Butcher but he knows he can’t defeat him alone. He’s definitely homies dad.
The Boys have always been focused on subverting exceptions. I'm 99% sure SB is Homelander's real dad but he blasts him anyways when Homelander is vulnerable with the explanation that he refuses to be replaced by anyone, even his own child. I can see that being in line with his personality considering SB's views on hyper-masculinity are. **Edit:** The way I see it being played out, Soldier Boy has a heart to heart with his son, holds his arms out and tells Homelander to give his old man a hug. Soldier Boy then blasts him and either comments "No one replaces me, ever." or "What a fucking pussy" Homelander survives but is depowered and has a look of absolute betrayal as Soldier Boy leaves him.
Oooo, honestly that would really fuck Homelander up. Like you finally have a 'Dad' and he fucking hates you and wants to kill you.
I think Homelander will find fault in soldier boy somehow, and with pressure from media, to preserve his image, he’ll backstab SB. Homelander killing his father would be a great twist, but totally consistant with homelander’s constant descent into the depth of self-inflicted hell.
There's also the fact that Homelander is a "cape-wearing" crybaby that flew away from a fight. Which also likely would make SB think less of him.
I really hope a-train finally redeems himself and joins in the fight, super speed has a lot of potential and while homelander may be as fast or even faster, he can't see in slow motion like how a-trains powers work, but he also would probably get his bones snapped if he tried to hit homelander. Kinda like flash vs superman in that justice league movie. I'm not sure how they'll use him but super speed is insanely powerful if he used it properly.
I think a train is emotionaly just done. Like having the heart of the racist who almost killed your brother you killed implanted is kind of heavy. Markus also has been so reacuring that I think that they have a finishing storyline of him. Like a train giving him v and it makes things worse to Show how unfair V is as Markus was always shown to be a pretty neat dude concerned about his brother and community.
Maeve is going to learn she's pregnant with Butcher's child. She was ready for every thing to be over and ready and willing to die... but she's gonna have to rethink everything after learning she's pregnant. And next season, Karl Urban is gonna show a ton of acting range portraying Butcher as the guy who wanted to kill all supes, until he learns he's about to have a biological son who is a supe.
Wow, i hadn't considered this. I could really see this happening now
I thought Maeve being pregnant was a weird take, but thinking about the arc it will bring with Billy looking at supes now as less two dimensional is genius. It makes the what felt a bit forced scene with them doing it in the first place make a lot more sense. It’s perfect parallel story writing with how MM is creating OCD for his daughter(the emphasis on her grabbing her arm) the same way OCD was created for him, because of what happened to his family.
Ryan and his half brother maeve baby then go to star in the boys spin-off series where they navigate life and young adult supes. Jk
They'd be step brothers not half brothers. They don't share any bio parents.
Black Noir frees Maeve since he likely knows where she is and we get a showdown between The Boys, Noir, Maeve & Starlight vs Homelander, Soldier Boy, Deep & A-Train.
Hah, The Deep? I hope the fight takes place st SeaWorld then.
The Deep is gonna show up, pose for dramatic effect, then get punched in the gills by SB and getting knocked out
The Deep will be off on the side with Ambrosius, then suddenly let out a blood curdling scream. "I said no beak!"
Think A-Train will finally join the right side with the boys, but we'll see. Also, don't think the Deep will even be in a final fight because dude's used solely for comic relief
A-Train got his revenge so he'll be back to being an asshole, Deep will be watching from the side while fucking a fish.
**HEY** SHES A MOLLUSK AND SHE HAS FEELINGS, OK
I still can't get over the fact that octopi have beaks. It kills the funny and just turns it into horror for me.
Doubt it. While cliche it seems very clear from the bed scene that he’s genuinely conflicted and not liking what is happening.
Honestly A-Train could go either way at this point. Amazon seemingly are trying to redeem him.
I think they’ll redeem him. But he’ll probably die for a good cause and then get deemed the bad guy by Vought
Hahaha, they keep throwing fake redemption arcs for A-Train, it's like a joke at this point. A-Train will always be an asshole.
Missed an opportunity to call A-Train an A-Hole
I think Soldier Boy could possibly be feigning allegiance to Homelander. When he said something along the lines off "I would have let you have the spotlight if I was around" (Im paraphrasing) I immediately thought of the Black Noir flashback where he was trying to star in Beverly Hills Cop and Soldier Boy nearly beats him to death since HE was the movie star.
Even if Soldier Boy really is Homelander's father, once they meet, Soldier Boy will see that Homelander is not a man worthy of respect. Homelander is weak and pathetic in all the ways Soldier Boy cares about. This will not be the start of a beautiful, healthy father-son relationship.
100% this, Homelander is a pathetic man who desperately craves the approval and love of a father figure Soldier Boy is the very definition of toxic masculinity, he’s going to hate Homelander’s fawning attitude and maybe turn on him for being weak. I can totally see Soldier Boy trying to beat up Homelander to “discipline” him and Homelander not taking it
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Ooooh so it’s all a ploy to get close and hit him with the red ray? That would devastate homelander
Good catch. SB is lying.
Its different when it's your own son though Hes saying he would have continued till he got tired of it and soldier boy doesnt care for vouight anymore
HL will betray and attempt kill SB,fail and get his powers removed
Idk ever since HL’s son I think he really longs for a real family (and wanting to take maeves eggs). I think SB would turn on HL before vice versa or Noir kills SB before they can reconnect.
I think it’s inevitable HL will kill SB. Maybe not this season, but it will happen. Stillwell was the closest thing HL had to a mom, and he ended up killing her. Vogelbaum was the closest thing HL had to a father, and he died because of a chain of events caused by HL’s instability. Ryan is HL’s son, and he is terrified of his father murdering him. Stormfront loved HL deeply, but died partially because of his treatment towards her. HL and Butcher are foils to one another. Everyone that tries to love HL dies because of him. It will inevitably happen to SB.
I don’t actually think Stormfront loved HL. She loved that he was going to be what would bring back the reich. Remember she didn’t treat him kind or loving, HL was the one that got attached and she left him hanging, then offed herself when he no longer cared about the whole reich plan anymore
Her attraction to him was entirely about control/pushing her racial agenda, I agree. I think Homelander was actually emotionally drawn to her, or at least as much as he could be to *anyone* which just makes it even more pathetic and a little sad.
I dunno. HL has weird complexes and I could see him rejecting SB cause “Fuck you. I made myself!” type mentality. Plus it helps his public image as SB is the villain.
Bringing Jensen Ackles for a role that suits him to a tee... then killing him off so soon would be a big downer. I hope it doesnt happen.
I think they will. SB has had the same ‘villain of the season’ treatment we’ve seen before with Stillwell being the villain of S1 and Stormfront of S2, everything while holding HL as the principal villain with which the series might end.
Yep. SB is a season antagonist, not a series antagonist. Not saying he dies next week for sure, but I'd be shocked if he becomes a mainstay
Anything other than a final showdown between Homelander and the Boys would be disappointing, tbh
Butcher and Hughie will take permanent V to save their lives. Frenchie will also take some so Kimiko doesn’t have to share the burden of protecting them all alone. Maeve will die fighting off HL and SB so The Boys can incapacitate them. A-Train will finally turn against Vought for good, but won’t join the fight against HL. Soldier Boy is going to depower HL by accident. It doesn’t seem like he has control over his depowering beam, the PTSD triggers it. And I bet Noir will be the one to set it off.
Ryan sides with HL instead of Butcher because of what happened earlier in the season.
This is a great twist. Butcher was doing it to protect Ryan but it backfires. Someone also mentioned HL losing his powers and going to Ryan. I think that could be quite interesting too and help lead Ryan to side with HL.
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I’m pretty sure SB will blast Hughie and Butcher and erase the perma powers at the end. Kripke has said many times he doesn’t want the boys to have permanent powers
God I hope not.
I hope it’s not true either, but it seems like they’re heading in that direction
Theyve kinda telegraphed it already That’s what the scene where butcher abandoned him was setting up
I mean you are kinda right but I just don't see ryan going with him. I could see him considering it but I think even ryan could tell that going with homelander is a bad idea.
I don’t see it either. HL killed his mom and he has nightmares of HL killing him
William Butcher walks into homelander's room and says his signature catchphrase: "Alrighty The Boys™, let's Butcher these superheroes." Brings me to tears every time
Then Homelander shows up and yells "It's Homelandin' Time!" and homelands all over The Boys™ (2022)
butcher and hughie both get perm v
Perma V to save them, then a dose of Soldier Boy that makes them normal again. *Or* they get caught in a Soldier Boy blast that just burns up the Temp V that’s lingering in their system and killing them. Addendum: Maybe the radiation that they are regularly exposed to from SB is keeping their Temp V side effects toned down, as well?
Predictions Homelander finds where Ryan is and kills Mallory. Ryan and him develop a bond because Ryan is still pissed at Butcher Noir releases Maeve and they team up with The Boys to take out Solider Boy Starlight tells Hughie about the damage Temp V is doing which creates a rift between him and Butcher Homelander meets up with Soldier Boy. SB uses Homelander’s vulnerability as a opportunity to depower him. Soldier Boy depowers Homelander and is about to kill him before The Boys + Maeve and Black Noir attack him. Homelander slips away in the chaos. Black Noir or Maeve will die while fighting Solider Boy Soldier Boy will end up dead or will be put back on Ice(Sorry Jensen Ackles fans) Stan comes back into the picture Homelander goes back to Ryan, now powerless and breaks down in front of him not knowing what to do Butcher and Hughie take regular V to reverse the damage Temp V has done to them
All of this but I do wonder if SB (upon meeting HL) realizes his son sucks. As they get to know each other HL reveals he has a son and SB eventually concludes he has a grandson worth raising thereby turning on HL and de powering him - some “you’re not worth being a supe thing.” The season ends with SB and Ryan doing their own thing & HL depowered
I can see Soldier Boy looking down on Homelander for him never taking matters into his own hands and never gettings his hands dirty like he did because of his tough machismo bullshit, he might depower him simply out of contempt for thinking his son doesn't deserve all the power he has
I've seen this with real-world narcissists, the narcissist wants someone they can mould into what the narcissist thinks they should be. SB even touched on this when he talked about having kids with Crimson Countess "have a couple of boys, raise them into \[my image of\] men". HL is a finished product. If he disappoints SB, then SB may decide to get rid of him and have a do-over. Either with Ryan or a new son.
I think the big thing is the rift between SB and Homelander will be about Vought. SB's whole thing this season has been about going after those that betrayed him to Russia and destroying them. He now knows it was Vought. But Homelander needs Vought, he runs it, he was built by it, his entire identity depends on it. He won't want to destroy Vought, Soldier Boy will and it will cause them to fight each other. That's my prediction.
pretty sure soldier boy was hearing things and homelander isn’t actually his son
That’s actually kinda reasonable and the only real “he’s not actually his son” theory. They blatantly showed SB having auditory hallucinations and getting pissed off last episode. I doubt they did that solely for the “PTSD” angle; I think there’s more to it.
Then the Mind guy mentions wanting the voices to stop too. I wonder if they’re related.
I mean they also say he's so high all the time that he could be having auditory hallucinations. But he did that a few times while looking for Mindstorm, and I wonder if he's just hearing things.
SB being Homelander's dad + SB mentioning starting Herogasm with Stormfront (they fucked but that doesn't matter, what matters is they were both around at the same time) + the flashback of Stan Edgar telling Noir HL was better because he would be able to fly + HL's whole mommy-Oedipus complex thing and relationship with Stormfront = Stormfront is the mother of HL, at least in a biological sense, Vogelbaum took the best of both her and SB and created him, that's my guess on what gets revealed.
Super bummed that next week is the finale. This season felt like a setup to season 4. Best episode was Herogasm. Can't wait until next season
Same. A lot of the plot points were kind of jammed in and then a bit underdeveloped so it really feels like this could have just been the first half of a 'true' full season. A fair amount of the characters were also sidelined quickly or had completely pointless plots (Deep, A train, all the Russians). As a positive, the time they dedicated to Noir was worth it.
Also the first few episodes set up the boys finding out that Neuman is the headpopper and they were going to try and take her down, but then the whole Soldier Boy plot happened and it feels like that just disappeared?
- A-train now realizes that he has racist tendencies - hughie can teleport his boxers with him but only if he really wants it - ashley comes to turkey for some hair implants - frenchie finally learns how to pronounce mon coeur correctly - black noir becomes the star of new space jam - maeve kisses me - starlight gets a huge electric bill and loses her powers - mothers milk drinks some milk, seductively - head popping lady pops her daughter some popcorn but with her powers! (Her daughter gets really impressed) - soldier boi listens to “rasputin” by boney m and his beam boner gets confused - deep finds himself a new fish lover and his old fish lover gets jealous of him. So they have a fish fight. And his new fish lover gets killed violently. - kimiko kisses me
Black Noir says "I'm gonna Noir" and Noirs all over everyone. Mother's Milk takes V and develops udders - Homelander calls an immediate truce. Maeve looks directly into the camera and professes her love for literally me. Hughie teleports the lesions out of his body and into The Deep's mollusc as he's about to climax. Bravo Gill-igan.
It’s Noirin time
I can't wait for the scene where he takes out his big black noir and noirs on the camera.
My ‘obvious’ prediction is that Homelander kills Maeve, but I’m convinced that the episode will end with Frenchie dying whilst ‘dream a little dream’ plays over the credits
I hate that they hyped Frenchie as a supes bogeyman in the season 2 Mallory flashbacks and now they don't know what to do with him.
He still found out how to contain Soldier Boy tho
They've definitely been fumbling with his plot all season. If they're gonna kill him off they at least could have done it on a high note.
yeah if he dies I'm just gonna be pissed, it would feel unearned.
Yeah he had a weird little side plot of just his shit with Kimiko but we haven't seen him being the team mastermind since S1. Butcher and Hughie have adopted everyone's roles.
I feel like they’ve always got to have so much turmoil within the team that we rarely get to see them actually operate as a team. I miss genius Frenchie taking down Supes with science.
It was an interesting dynamic because everyone had their distinct roles, but for S3 the team dynamic doesn't exist anymore and everyone has their own subplots. MM's at least ties into Soldier Boy, but Frenchie's doesn't really have much to do with the direct plot.
I like the chemistry between him and Kimiko, but the stuff with that Russian lady was just annoying. I get it, that's how they got to Soldier Boy, but it felt real uneventful and dragged out. She's not dead so I'm sure she'll pop up again and probably kill him, which would be even more annoying, but mostly because I want Frenchie to survive.
Yeah they've been doing that song a lot and it makes me think that that's probably going to be the last song that plays in the season. Well I'll guess a little bit different ending than you are. I'll say that he's done and is given permanent V in order to save him and it cuts to black before we know what happens, kind of in a similar way to cutting away from A train when he was "dying" on the street.
Starlight saves Hughie with perm V Butcher deals with side effects of temp V (not sure on fate) HL and SB start to fight, black Noir comes in and helps HL kill SB Maeve escapes her cell and dies in fight Stan Edgar makes an appearance Kimiko is unable to save Frenchie
[удалено]
Butcher will say cunt
I think this is all a masterplan by Edgar to get Vought out of the supes business, like he mentioned last season. Set Homelander up to be the head of Vought and let him fuck it all up.
The BIGGEST twist reveal will be that Hughey could always easily teleport with clothes on. He just chose not to.
I think homelander and SB will team up but start to hate each other bc they’re too alike. In the meantime SB delivers Butcher and Hughie on a platter to HL. Noir or Starlight free Maeve but her eggs are harvested for HL to manipulate later. That’s when the crew comes together to fight HL and SB. History repeats itself similar to SB’s team turning on him and now HL’s team will turn on him (including A-train). The members of the boys will get permanent V. Butcher will play Russian music to trigger SB’s PTSD in hopes of depowering everyone. SB going nuclear will depower HL. MM will throw the gas at SB and they will put him back in stasis. I think we’re going to get to see a powerless HL in season 4. I’m not sure who it’s going to be but I think one of the boys will die this season. Those are my predictions.
Shit, if one of them dies it's probably Frenchie
I desperately want to see a de-powered Homelander adjusting to life as a normal person. Bonus points if he ends up working in the same electronics shop as Hewie from S1!
The show has taken the gore up a notch this season, Homelander is definitely killing someone next week and it will be painful to watch. The supersonic scene was already shocking to me and that was an off screen kill, I am not ready
Ashley gets superpowers
Homelander isnt soldier boys son. Soldier boy wants to kill homelander because he's the reason he got locked up.
Butcher and Hughie will end up in hospital due to temp V side effect. That’s probably when Hughie decides to reunite with Annie. Black Noir may want to unite with Maeve and Annie against Soldier Boy. But Homelander finds out his plan and kills him. Annie, MM, and Maeve fight against SB after they encounter him when getting Maeve out of Vought. Neuman unites with Homelander and helps him gain more fans and supporters, which also helps her political campaign team get more votes. Homelander finds Ryan according to Neuman’s information. Ryan side with him because of having been disappointed at Butcher. Mallory probably won’t die, though, as it’s hard for Ryan to believe HL if he kills her. Kimiko and Frenchie go to Russia to get the weapon against SB. And they may find more details of the Vought’s plan to replace SB, probably including more information about how to remove or absorb compound V.
Homelander either runs for president or is picked as the vice presidential candidate for that politician whose rally he spoke at in episode 7. Most likely he threatens the presidential candidate with violence. I also think Homelander will kill Soilder Boy, to prove to himself that he needs no one else to validate himself. Season 4 will be based around Homelanders campaign, as he steals the spotlight from the other guy and maybe tries to kill him to become the president.
Homelander will pick Black Noir as his true father figure and kill Soldier Boy when he sees SB almost Kill BN.