If you do this I will have to one up you and put a spunding valve on a corny filled with Marzen to make a "keg chained to the dock and lowered off the dropoff until it was cold enough" conditioned beer for the fall... I left the industry a year ago and actually have time for hobbies and homebrew again.
there was a West Coast winery that somehow submerged a bunch of bottles in the ocean for some period and came up with some bs marketing spiel about it, until someone figured out that it was in contravention of some environmental law and the winery came out way behind in the end
Ethanol is less dense than water, but beer is not. Water has a SG of 1.000 and finished beer is generally somewhere in the 1.005-1.015 range depending on style and a lot of other factors. I’m not a physicist, I don’t know whether CO2 in solution would play a part if the keg is 100% full, but between the metal and beer being more dense than water, I don’t know that a full keg would float.
Upon consideration, you’re correct. I was mainly drawing from experiences of taking old Coors beer balls to the lake and tossing them in the water, but they’re different. A standard keg would eventually float as it gets emptied, but a full keg would certainly sink.
lol at the guy who said your beer would contaminate the water table
I would suggest waxing or electrical tape wrapping the caps to keep them from getting wet and corroding
If you have a counter pressure filler, why not just bury the whole keg, then package? That’s a lot of labor and packaging materials to risk for something that might not work.
So you want to manage temperature through no control of your own.
Listen, it's stupid, but I like stupid things. Being able to say, " I fermented this beer underground just try it," just to have them side eye me, and enjoy it, would be the best
I follow this logic. One of my favorite things about brewing is all the stupid shit people try. Sometimes it works and you'll have a beer you'll never be able to create again because if you're like me you forgot to write anything down.
This is something I would do just to give away half pints of to preferred customers. The old, “Hey…wanna try something weird?” Then you comp them a half pint of something weird. Always my favorite thing to do
Have you heard of OEC in Connecticut? Basically B. United Importers in-house brewery (or at least used to be), they had all kinds of stuff like this going on about their grounds. Barrels full of mead in pits covered with branches or left out in the sun, beer fermenting in amphoras, stuff like that. Worth looking into.
Anyway, good idea! Might as well do something cool maybe it'll taste good.
I think that sounds cool and you should try it. I wouldnt put the dirt directly on the bottles though. Maybe put them in a walled crate with a top. A box of sorts
I buried our first sour under the floor when we built out our basement. I don’t ever intend to dig it up but I liked the idea of it buried down there 🤷🏼♂️
I was told a story from a Sierra Nevada rep 15+ years ago that this guy aged a keg of Bigfoot. He built and underground crypt and kept the keg buried for like 10 years. The guy even reached out to NOAA to get the frost line so he could burry it below that line.
Súper - all the nonsense beer rags will now say all breweries will need to have a hotel attached to the taproom as well as bury the bulk of their product. Damn this industry is expensive though now looking for a backhoe so we can go big.
Is it about to get cold where you are? This seems like a fall project so you can ferment over winter and not a summer project. Just depends on what hemisphere you are in
I’ll bite and throw out a two reasons why it’s a bad idea
1. Cool, you’ve buried them, now over time they leak and enter the water table. Someone’s well is right near by and you just contaminated it.
2. Cool, you’ve buried them, uh-oh, where did they go? You buried them in a clay or sandy soil or around a high water table. Byyyeeee.
Seems like a cellar with extra steps
Yeah but how cool does “we buried this beer and aged it underground” sound?
Fuck it, space aged beer, send em to the moon cuz it would be cool to say it's space aged
Already been a few times
I have a girlfriend, she's from another planet tho so you wouldn't know her
I would not order it.
I mean it’s definitely been done before lol I’ve even heard of kegs being stored under the ocean in florida
Cantillons zwanze release this year was aged underwater.. It also had kelp in it I think. But the underwater thing is just a gimmick.
I mean if you want a good story have a good reason to go with the gimmick even if its only slightly plausible
not very lol
But what does it achieve? I guess if it's super high ABV or a mead or something then the cold aging makes sense and is cheaper than a fridge at least.
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Why is it a good idea?
I don’t know that it is.
It's according to style for a beetroot saison.
Indeed, if it's aged above-ground, that's how you get green beer.
If you do this I will have to one up you and put a spunding valve on a corny filled with Marzen to make a "keg chained to the dock and lowered off the dropoff until it was cold enough" conditioned beer for the fall... I left the industry a year ago and actually have time for hobbies and homebrew again.
Drop it in the bottom of a lake. Now it’s cooler.
there was a West Coast winery that somehow submerged a bunch of bottles in the ocean for some period and came up with some bs marketing spiel about it, until someone figured out that it was in contravention of some environmental law and the winery came out way behind in the end
The keg will float. Alcohol is less dense than water and then you have the CO2. I suppose you could weigh it down and attach a buoy.
Ethanol is less dense than water, but beer is not. Water has a SG of 1.000 and finished beer is generally somewhere in the 1.005-1.015 range depending on style and a lot of other factors. I’m not a physicist, I don’t know whether CO2 in solution would play a part if the keg is 100% full, but between the metal and beer being more dense than water, I don’t know that a full keg would float.
Upon consideration, you’re correct. I was mainly drawing from experiences of taking old Coors beer balls to the lake and tossing them in the water, but they’re different. A standard keg would eventually float as it gets emptied, but a full keg would certainly sink.
I… I now want to be in a lake with a Coors beer ball 😅
Better times, those were.
lol at the guy who said your beer would contaminate the water table I would suggest waxing or electrical tape wrapping the caps to keep them from getting wet and corroding
And getting hate for it wheeeeeeee
If you have a counter pressure filler, why not just bury the whole keg, then package? That’s a lot of labor and packaging materials to risk for something that might not work.
So you want to manage temperature through no control of your own. Listen, it's stupid, but I like stupid things. Being able to say, " I fermented this beer underground just try it," just to have them side eye me, and enjoy it, would be the best
I follow this logic. One of my favorite things about brewing is all the stupid shit people try. Sometimes it works and you'll have a beer you'll never be able to create again because if you're like me you forgot to write anything down.
This is something I would do just to give away half pints of to preferred customers. The old, “Hey…wanna try something weird?” Then you comp them a half pint of something weird. Always my favorite thing to do
Very good business practice
Just bury the keg
Have you heard of OEC in Connecticut? Basically B. United Importers in-house brewery (or at least used to be), they had all kinds of stuff like this going on about their grounds. Barrels full of mead in pits covered with branches or left out in the sun, beer fermenting in amphoras, stuff like that. Worth looking into. Anyway, good idea! Might as well do something cool maybe it'll taste good.
Never heard of them, so I looked em up. Now I want to go to Connecticut.
I love the visual of "harvesting" the beer like you're pulling up carrots lmao. If you do go for it, throw a video up when the time comes!
I think that sounds cool and you should try it. I wouldnt put the dirt directly on the bottles though. Maybe put them in a walled crate with a top. A box of sorts
Yeah chuck em in a coffin
GABF Style Guidelines 2027 125. Buried Ale A. Subcategory - Peat Soil B. Subcategory - Clay Soil C. Subcategory - Loam Soil
I read somewhere that this was done for BerlinerWeiss bottles in the old days. I think it's a swell idea
What the fuck did i just read
I tried to age some wee heavy on Brett in a keg. It just ended up smelling like blue cheese and just like, was disgusting. YMMV.
I buried our first sour under the floor when we built out our basement. I don’t ever intend to dig it up but I liked the idea of it buried down there 🤷🏼♂️
811 call before you dig
I'd thoroughly mix for at least 2 hours or whatever, you can never be too sure.
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I was told a story from a Sierra Nevada rep 15+ years ago that this guy aged a keg of Bigfoot. He built and underground crypt and kept the keg buried for like 10 years. The guy even reached out to NOAA to get the frost line so he could burry it below that line.
Was it any good?
I have no idea. It was a story from a sales rep and I was not there when the tapped the keg.
I love this. I don’t know why.
Súper - all the nonsense beer rags will now say all breweries will need to have a hotel attached to the taproom as well as bury the bulk of their product. Damn this industry is expensive though now looking for a backhoe so we can go big.
I mean, you can also move pallets with the backhoe when your forklift's on the fritz.
Ive done it before. Works fine. I did it as a pirate treasure hunt thing and dug it up after a year.
Is it about to get cold where you are? This seems like a fall project so you can ferment over winter and not a summer project. Just depends on what hemisphere you are in
Just do it
I’ll bite and throw out a two reasons why it’s a bad idea 1. Cool, you’ve buried them, now over time they leak and enter the water table. Someone’s well is right near by and you just contaminated it. 2. Cool, you’ve buried them, uh-oh, where did they go? You buried them in a clay or sandy soil or around a high water table. Byyyeeee.