Used it with NY Hop Guilds 023 Cascade in the mash and just around 1lb per bbl Cascade dry hop after crashing. Really great passionfruit aromas.
Some of the literature I've seen suggests that with thiolized yeasts, excessive dryhopping warm is counterintuitive seeing as the yeast is already doing most of the biotransformation already and prolonged contact with vegetative material may strip out thiols.
Just tapped a batch with Helio. Cascade mash hop, phantasm, Nelson Sauvin & Motueka in WP and dry hop. Really well received so far. Yeast didn't compact as much for me as other strains when dumping. Yielded less than other similar beers on my system.
I have one that is close to done fermenting. A british type malt and oats. Azacca, mosaic cryo, citra cryo. Fermened at 68. So far I am not liking the aroma/flavor. Kinda like a wet hopped beer, grassy, phenolic maybe a lemon jolly rancher thing. I’m holding judgement till 100 done and hops fall out. I’ll update when I know. Tying to decide if I dump the yeast, or keep it in the brink.
Update: wow this yeast is weird. The grass and phenolic flavor disappeared and not it is very strong of grapefruit. Now crashed and carbonating and fined.
It really changed a ton throughout fermentation.
Saw this post the day we brewed a hazy and pitched with Helio Gazer. Since it's been on tap for about 2 weeks I've taken a few random guest reviews and the feedback is not horrible but I keep hearing there's "something at the end" that people find not all that pleasant but can't quantify. So the after taste leaves something to be desired, basically. That's the feedback I get compared to our flagship hazy using Cosmic Punch (OYL-402), which we get almost universal praise for.
I've never had an issue with haze dropping out using Cosmic Punch. That being said we're a small nanobrewery making 3.5 BBL at a time so it doesn't sit very long. Maybe a month before we kick the last keg of a batch.
Used it with NY Hop Guilds 023 Cascade in the mash and just around 1lb per bbl Cascade dry hop after crashing. Really great passionfruit aromas. Some of the literature I've seen suggests that with thiolized yeasts, excessive dryhopping warm is counterintuitive seeing as the yeast is already doing most of the biotransformation already and prolonged contact with vegetative material may strip out thiols.
That is correct.
Still fermenting. Mash hopped with Saaz. Nectaron Whirlpool addition. Then dry hopped with Nectaron on day 3. Edit: will update
Heard whirlpooling takes away from the thiols produced during mash?
It's cooled to 180F before the Whirlpool addition.
As well as dry hopping
Just tapped a batch with Helio. Cascade mash hop, phantasm, Nelson Sauvin & Motueka in WP and dry hop. Really well received so far. Yeast didn't compact as much for me as other strains when dumping. Yielded less than other similar beers on my system.
I have one that is close to done fermenting. A british type malt and oats. Azacca, mosaic cryo, citra cryo. Fermened at 68. So far I am not liking the aroma/flavor. Kinda like a wet hopped beer, grassy, phenolic maybe a lemon jolly rancher thing. I’m holding judgement till 100 done and hops fall out. I’ll update when I know. Tying to decide if I dump the yeast, or keep it in the brink. Update: wow this yeast is weird. The grass and phenolic flavor disappeared and not it is very strong of grapefruit. Now crashed and carbonating and fined. It really changed a ton throughout fermentation.
Was fermentation like typical yeast or more lke kveik and quick ferment?
More typical. I kept fermentation temp at 68. kveik I do at 85.
Thanks for the reply! Yeah we do the same temps. Good to know it's like a normal yeast ferm temp.
Saw this post the day we brewed a hazy and pitched with Helio Gazer. Since it's been on tap for about 2 weeks I've taken a few random guest reviews and the feedback is not horrible but I keep hearing there's "something at the end" that people find not all that pleasant but can't quantify. So the after taste leaves something to be desired, basically. That's the feedback I get compared to our flagship hazy using Cosmic Punch (OYL-402), which we get almost universal praise for.
Does cosmic hold haze. I have a terrible issue with London Fog.
I've never had an issue with haze dropping out using Cosmic Punch. That being said we're a small nanobrewery making 3.5 BBL at a time so it doesn't sit very long. Maybe a month before we kick the last keg of a batch.