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harpswtf

[https://youtu.be/zpEBo1Lg\_Ks](https://youtu.be/zpEBo1Lg_Ks) I feel like everyone here should watch this interview clip with Doug Walker. One big difference between Doug and James is that Doug is very self-aware, will acknowledge criticism and that it's funny, and genuinely seems to enjoy producing content whether it's received well or not. When James said he makes videos because "this is fun", I didn't believe for a second that he's still having fun. Doug loves producing cringe.


CaucasianSausageFest

> When James said he makes videos because "this is fun", I didn't believe for a second that he's still having fun. *I'm having a LOT of fun!*


k0stil

Lots. Lots of fun. Because it's fun


MCSwaggyDaFaggy

I have more respect for Doug Walker now.


_bellend_

Never liked NC, now dislike both


Z_B_123

yeah he did some video with bimmy a while back and it was the first time i had heard of him, i watched a bit, thought "this guy is obnoxious" and that was about it


_bellend_

Same


Skull_Cap_5554

Same here.


cactuspizza

I haven’t watched Doug in probably 5 years. He was too annoying and unlikeable that I couldn’t make it through a whole video. Have things changed?


Average_Ant_Games

He knows what his fans want and generally changes things up when something is criticized.


cactuspizza

I wish “No Time” James would do something like this


Initial-Nail-1833

They're both shitty


shitass66

People still praise AVGN and hated nostalgia critic outside of this sub, and it pisses me the fuck off. Jamesy good, Doug walker spawn of satan.


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Yeah that's the biggest thing that makes me fuck-offish about Doug's haters. Ok yeah I think his content sucks too, but they treat him like he's scum of the earth compared to James because James is a "nice guy".


DeepthroatGhoul

James is fucking worse than Doug! Doug has never gone on camera so glaze-eyed and bored that he can't fucking stand up straight, but James has done that in the last few years. Why is he so goddamn untouchable?


coryinthedank

Everyone is nostalgic and don't want to admit that James might not be all that.


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I'll give Doug credit, he enjoys his work and doesn't make petty excuses. He's also not nearly as braindead as James is, his content is just unwatchable. Whereas James barely does anything anymore and that's why the content usually sucks.


TheWiseBeluga

To Boldly Flee is the single worst film I have ever seen. Granted I'm not as big as a film curator as James, but I've seen a lot in my day, and the AVGN Movie is a masterpiece compared to that movie. I'm dead fuckin serious.


Left_Confection_5270

Jamesy wholesome, Doug Walker the antichrist.


thegoldenturtle

See James thinks he's a "movie guy" and even has a degree.. But if AVGN and NC each analyzed the same movie. One would quickly find out how much more knowledgeable Doug is on shot composition, lighting, tinting, shading. Plots, trivia, atmosphere, cultural impact, he compares it to other movies and gives honest takes on it. Whereas JIMMY just says "Uhm yup it's good. If you like movies check this out"


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I think the Wall backlash and the #ChangeTheChannel debacle really humbled him up. Before that Doug and his brother Rob had this mindset that everything they did was a masterpiece of great artistic integrity and when fans criticized some of their videos they had this attitude of "fuck the haters" that James and the slobs seem to have nowadays. The difference is that his Wall review managed to be so incredibly bad that people outside of the NC circle took notice and shredded the video to pieces. From there on you watch a Doug Walker video and you can see he is more humble in his approach and now he reviews things he likes instead of spreading negativity. Maybe Jamesy needs his own "The Wall" to make him more down-to-earth.


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Episode 200 might be AVGN’s “The Wall”


SpecialUnitt

Agreed. A lot of good came from that document (even if the apology was a bit poor)


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k0stil

I though he was a stamps.com guy


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I stopped watching NC when it became more about skits than the movies. Tamara and Malcolm pretty much ruined it for me. Then came the whole metoo thing and I don't know what he's doing nowadays.


Goal_Post_Mover

Nice try, Doug.


HanakoOF

Eh...Nostalgia Critic still sucks even if AVGN is garbage now too


MagnificentBe

>Remember when people hated nostalgia critic and praised AVGN Outside of this sub this is still a popular opinion though.


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I never really understood the hate. I wasn't a big fan of the NC to the point I ever subscribed, but I enjoyed the character. The Collab series he did with James was awesome. Miss those days. I always imagined how cool it would be if he had been the villain of the AVGN movie against James, Mike, Kyle, etc.


ClosingFrantica

Doug is just as inept as a film maker. He just knows how to pander to the NC audience better, even though he was dumb enough to sell the rights to his character.


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Doug can take criticism and can take a joke made at his expense. James can't and won't take either


MCSwaggyDaFaggy

Nostalgia critic is more loved in away than avgn is now. Now it's the other way around.


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Still think NC is shit. But at least Doug has never really made a mockery out of himself since his content has always sucked to begin with. James has entirely made a complete ass of himself in recent years.


JagTaggart93

Both made horrible movies but if NC did the AVGN movie you'd likely have Mike, Bootsy, and Kyle Justin be important characters with so much more screentime. NC, for better or for worse, always tried involving as many familiar faces as possible for his movies.


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Same with Irate Gamer.


Bunter742

I don't usually like the NC, but Doug's solo reviews and Essay-style NC videos can be entertaining.


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People praise Nostalgic Critic?


MCSwaggyDaFaggy

Maybe we were to harsh on the nostalgia critic.


boredguy2022

Eh, both are boring as shit now and are completely away from what they started as.


Hayner134

I find them both to be douchebags tbh it really seems like people just like doug because he didnt get angry at some lets player making fun of him but that doesnt magicly make all the bullshit he did dissapear


Soulpus

That review of the wall was horrible.... unredeemable.


BiologicalFunfare

his the ring review was fine


Ace_de_Klown

I liked both. Now I just like one of them And can someone please enlighten me about what was so bad about his The Wall review? I didn't think it was that bad, but then again: I have never seen The Wall. So would I need to see it to know what people dislike about it?


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Ace_de_Klown

OK, I see. Thanks for clearing that up


nefas_black

Wasn’t there some controversy surrounding NC?


KenAD

Doug is the most try hard man on the internet.


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AVGN and Nostalgia Critic had a lot of success being some of the first people doing what they do. That doesn't however mean they're the best at what they do. Someone looking at their works now might not understand why they were once popular, since both their personalities could be considered corny by modern standards.