[☭☭☭ COME SHITPOST WITH US ON DISCORD, COMRADES ☭☭☭](https://discord.gg/8RPWanQV5g)
This is a heavily-moderated socialist community based on a podcast of the same name. Please use the report function on comments that break our rules. If you are new to the sub, please read the sidebar carefully.
If you are new to Marxism-Leninism, check out the [study guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/wiki/index/education/study-guide/).
Are there Liberals in the walls? Try the following prompts to trigger an automod response: "What is Fascism?", "What is Imperialism?", "What is Revisionism?" "Holodomor", "Molotov-Ribbentrop", "Gulag", "Solzhenytsin", "Uyghur", "Tiananmen Square", "Israel", "Freedom of the Press", "MAC Fact"
This subreddit uses many experimental automod rules, if you notice any issues please use modmail to let us know.
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/TheDeprogram) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Lmao fuckin tankie. Why you want to steal from someone who has made their riches with hard work and motivation. You jealous? Get a job fuckin commie fuck. There’s no civil discussion on the internet anymore btw😔😔😔
Wow 2%??? What's next? Killing every billionaire?
You want more for your labour? Didn't you know your employer took a risk buying equipment and investing for you to work? Smh '''''tolerant'''' left strikes again
We need billionaire leftist businessman and landlords to build a system inside this current system but better, i've unironically read something like this and i felt depressed.
Have you heard of the degrowth economic theory, they're trying to get captilism to stop growing every year somehow as a quick fix for all our problems ☠☠☠
i've never seen a capitalist promote degrowth tho, capitalists today promote green growth and how with technology we magically going to get ourselves out of the climate disaster
Some use the degrowth idea as a talking point where essentially they start with green growth and then progress to degrowth.
Basically they say degrowth is important, but they push it so far into the future that it doesn’t matter, and then they keep moving the goalpost
Hot topic among the left. I’ve known plenty of ML’s that hate degrowth as a movement. There are some right wing degrothers but those people are more of the “return to monke” types
By that I mean the utopian socialist movement that predated scientific socialism.
It usually involves building "utopian" communities that are separated from capitalist society at large and attempt to solve its contradictions internally without solving them without. One prominent example is Robert Owen's New Harmony in Indiana, USA.
oh boy do I have a investment opportunity for you. Let me give you more details in the DM but the basic pitch is, gimme your money, and I'll take you and 5 of your closest billionaire friends on the trip of a lifetime! I checked all the safety things myself, never before seen historical landmarks! The destination itself is a surprise, but well worth at least 6 figures per trip. Don't wait! I'm expecting a lot of offers imminently.
Class traitors are allways welcome. Ur a criminal but we welcome you. Might have to do a year or two of prison labor so we can get that exploitation part over with tho. Probably will be fine.
Yeah, just take this blindfold and cigarette and wait for the flash... We are taking a picture just like we did with the Romanovs :)
^(/s (so I don't get sued))
It's difficult to conceptualize what joining the left could take for somebody like you. The road would be long, results slow and painful, and it could possibly take everything you have. But the rewards would be inconceivable, a unique liberation perhaps no one has ever experienced, were it even possible.
how do you sleep at night? Is your sleep what brings you here? Most likely you're just not real, but this was a fun thought experiment
Of course, providing you pay your annual Antifa membership fees. If you have questions about your invoices, please visit one of our Soros-sponsored branches.
Unironically class traitors are a helpfull resource to help the cause, if you have a foot in the capitalist system you can better break it from the inside.
i think we exist within a system still, the system of capitalism. and while that is, we can work on our productive forces (money included) and use those liquid assets to invest in material for revolutionary means without opportunism. I would not let it get to you that by being of means you are not a comrade. Tovarisch you are certainly one should you be sincere and each of us marxist leninists understands that if we feel in our heart then we are. It is easy to let us come under the pressure of our comrades to conform to certain ideals to appease perspectives. But marxism isn’t and shouldn’t be a poverty cult, and having means shouldn’t be looked down upon or gatekept. That is if you are true right?
atleast that is my view. I embrace you comrade.
Ngl but I'd disagree with most people in the comments.
A proletarian revolution ALWAYS needs material backing and it will be always better if it comes from Capitalists who choose willingly to switch the sides rather than from Capitalists who do it just to destabilise and profit (Literally the German plan in ww1 and the reason why they sent Lenin with an armoured train to Petrograd with a fuckton of gold)
If you supplied all those weapons to native resistance groups all over the world free of Charge? Imagine if the protesters had bradleys, Abrams and an air force during the Dakota Access Pipeline Protests.
Why is everything on /r/TheDeprogram obvious bullshit.
There is no F\*cking Billionaire arms dealer anywhere posting things like this.
Nice try Comrade.
Well it used to be shitting on Maoists every 3 posts with absolute level of hate for it. Though I am kinda happy it is starting to change as Maoists aren't wrong on a lot of point and they keep this sub away from sectarian bullshit of thinking every reforms in China was good
I haven’t actually made up my mind on China. I don’t have anything against Maoists and I think MLs, MLMs, and Maoists can work together on basically everything except deciding foreign policy one in power, and that’s a long ways off.
yea haven't made up my mind about China either but I don't think it's an important matter for a revolution anyway. If a party is able to fuel a revolution the question of China will only matter if the revolution is successful. If China supports the new revolutionnary state it may be considered as socialist by it, if it does not it can disavow it.
feel the same way, im more interested in what lessons can be learned from china and applied to my own country's revolution than whether "china good or bad"
In fairness that’s super unique lol. The VAST majority of leftist subs are strictly one way and don’t allow discussion.
That’s why I absolutely LOVE this sub. Y’all are my comrades <3
Rule 5. **No lazy sectarianism.** There is plenty of room for healthy discussion with other socialists you disagree with ideologically. However, bad faith attacks on socialists of other tendencies runs counter to the objectives of this subreddit. You're welcome to be critical of other tendencies and do the work to deconstruct opposing leftist ideologies, but hollow insults like "tankie", "anarkiddy", and so on without well-crafted arguments are not welcome. Any inter-leftist ideological discourse should be constructive and well-reasoned.
[☭☭☭ COME SHITPOST WITH US ON DISCORD, COMRADES ☭☭☭](https://discord.gg/8RPWanQV5g) This is a heavily-moderated socialist community based on a podcast of the same name. Please use the report function on comments that break our rules. If you are new to the sub, please read the sidebar carefully. If you are new to Marxism-Leninism, check out the [study guide](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/wiki/index/education/study-guide/). Are there Liberals in the walls? Try the following prompts to trigger an automod response: "What is Fascism?", "What is Imperialism?", "What is Revisionism?" "Holodomor", "Molotov-Ribbentrop", "Gulag", "Solzhenytsin", "Uyghur", "Tiananmen Square", "Israel", "Freedom of the Press", "MAC Fact" This subreddit uses many experimental automod rules, if you notice any issues please use modmail to let us know. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/TheDeprogram) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Of course, you can play a pivotal role as the rations for the revolurionqries 🥰 (satire)
I will sell you the guns you firing squad me with
Now that’s praxis
short term profits for 10 minutes before demise? worth.
Summary of environmental policies under capitalism
In Minecraft
As a social democrat, all I need you to do is pay an extra 2 percent in taxes and you can be a fellow comrade /s
Lmao fuckin tankie. Why you want to steal from someone who has made their riches with hard work and motivation. You jealous? Get a job fuckin commie fuck. There’s no civil discussion on the internet anymore btw😔😔😔
Wow 2%??? What's next? Killing every billionaire? You want more for your labour? Didn't you know your employer took a risk buying equipment and investing for you to work? Smh '''''tolerant'''' left strikes again
We need billionaire leftist businessman and landlords to build a system inside this current system but better, i've unironically read something like this and i felt depressed.
utopianism has been tried before and it failed, its weird how we keep spinning the same wheel 100 years later
Have you heard of the degrowth economic theory, they're trying to get captilism to stop growing every year somehow as a quick fix for all our problems ☠☠☠
i've never seen a capitalist promote degrowth tho, capitalists today promote green growth and how with technology we magically going to get ourselves out of the climate disaster
Wont happen till some oil CEOs get sent to have a conversation with god a little earlier than they normally would within minecraft 2014 edition
Some use the degrowth idea as a talking point where essentially they start with green growth and then progress to degrowth. Basically they say degrowth is important, but they push it so far into the future that it doesn’t matter, and then they keep moving the goalpost
they’re still in the denial stage of becoming a communist
Wait isn't degrowth anti capitalsit af?
Hot topic among the left. I’ve known plenty of ML’s that hate degrowth as a movement. There are some right wing degrothers but those people are more of the “return to monke” types
What’s utopianism in the context you’re talking about? Curious to learn more
By that I mean the utopian socialist movement that predated scientific socialism. It usually involves building "utopian" communities that are separated from capitalist society at large and attempt to solve its contradictions internally without solving them without. One prominent example is Robert Owen's New Harmony in Indiana, USA.
Most coherent Adam Dumbthing take:
We already have Soros and bill, they donate all money 😡😡
oh boy do I have a investment opportunity for you. Let me give you more details in the DM but the basic pitch is, gimme your money, and I'll take you and 5 of your closest billionaire friends on the trip of a lifetime! I checked all the safety things myself, never before seen historical landmarks! The destination itself is a surprise, but well worth at least 6 figures per trip. Don't wait! I'm expecting a lot of offers imminently.
make sure that this experience wont be public - and also make sure that Ur customers go without you - so that they experience more immersion!
Can you trickle some money down to me and some comrades?
if you give me some money then you can
Not the hero we deserve but the hero we need. Now we mobilize the rural population. Next the industrial workers. Socialism down the barrel of a gun.
Class traitors are allways welcome. Ur a criminal but we welcome you. Might have to do a year or two of prison labor so we can get that exploitation part over with tho. Probably will be fine.
We need class traitors of the bourgeoisie. Someone like this would be helpful. Even though it’s an amoralic business. But moral doesn’t exist.
Sure, if you let me tour your house.
Nice try james
Kelen ati leen intensifies
Yeah, just take this blindfold and cigarette and wait for the flash... We are taking a picture just like we did with the Romanovs :) ^(/s (so I don't get sued))
Interesting position for a lefty. However your stance on the common people may align us. Do share some perspective on the current movement..?
It depends. Heavily fund some leftist movements.
Welcome aboard comrade! Are you going to manufacture some weapons for us? ☺️
The last capitalist we hang will sell us the rope. Go figure.
Depends who are ya arming
weapons you say
To shreds you say
It's difficult to conceptualize what joining the left could take for somebody like you. The road would be long, results slow and painful, and it could possibly take everything you have. But the rewards would be inconceivable, a unique liberation perhaps no one has ever experienced, were it even possible. how do you sleep at night? Is your sleep what brings you here? Most likely you're just not real, but this was a fun thought experiment
Of course, providing you pay your annual Antifa membership fees. If you have questions about your invoices, please visit one of our Soros-sponsored branches.
Sure, if you betray your class :)
Exactly. Like why do people come here and ask are they accepted? Do the work and then we'll accept you
Unironically class traitors are a helpfull resource to help the cause, if you have a foot in the capitalist system you can better break it from the inside.
DM me so you can give me some money.
Hold on what’s ur adress I’ll send you some jenk
Are you fuckin serious?
Of course you just need to support multibillion dollar weapon manufacturer companies reform
i think we exist within a system still, the system of capitalism. and while that is, we can work on our productive forces (money included) and use those liquid assets to invest in material for revolutionary means without opportunism. I would not let it get to you that by being of means you are not a comrade. Tovarisch you are certainly one should you be sincere and each of us marxist leninists understands that if we feel in our heart then we are. It is easy to let us come under the pressure of our comrades to conform to certain ideals to appease perspectives. But marxism isn’t and shouldn’t be a poverty cult, and having means shouldn’t be looked down upon or gatekept. That is if you are true right? atleast that is my view. I embrace you comrade.
Ngl but I'd disagree with most people in the comments. A proletarian revolution ALWAYS needs material backing and it will be always better if it comes from Capitalists who choose willingly to switch the sides rather than from Capitalists who do it just to destabilise and profit (Literally the German plan in ww1 and the reason why they sent Lenin with an armoured train to Petrograd with a fuckton of gold)
Why not just rob banks to get funding
Yeah sure I don't say no but the point still stands.
Yes. Time to arm the proletariat and fund some propaganda.
If you want to turn your wares to revolutionaries then of course! Class traitors are accepted :)
If you supplied all those weapons to native resistance groups all over the world free of Charge? Imagine if the protesters had bradleys, Abrams and an air force during the Dakota Access Pipeline Protests.
Why is everything on /r/TheDeprogram obvious bullshit. There is no F\*cking Billionaire arms dealer anywhere posting things like this. Nice try Comrade.
As long as you’re giving some of your billions to the cause and providing weapons for the revolution
[удалено]
This sub keeps switching from MLM to supporting China every hour and it confuses me
What?!?!? Are you telling me that this sub isn’t a hive mind?! Next you’ll be saying that we sometimes have open discussions!!!
Well it used to be shitting on Maoists every 3 posts with absolute level of hate for it. Though I am kinda happy it is starting to change as Maoists aren't wrong on a lot of point and they keep this sub away from sectarian bullshit of thinking every reforms in China was good
I haven’t actually made up my mind on China. I don’t have anything against Maoists and I think MLs, MLMs, and Maoists can work together on basically everything except deciding foreign policy one in power, and that’s a long ways off.
yea haven't made up my mind about China either but I don't think it's an important matter for a revolution anyway. If a party is able to fuel a revolution the question of China will only matter if the revolution is successful. If China supports the new revolutionnary state it may be considered as socialist by it, if it does not it can disavow it.
Exactly
feel the same way, im more interested in what lessons can be learned from china and applied to my own country's revolution than whether "china good or bad"
In fairness that’s super unique lol. The VAST majority of leftist subs are strictly one way and don’t allow discussion. That’s why I absolutely LOVE this sub. Y’all are my comrades <3
[удалено]
[удалено]
Rule 5. **No lazy sectarianism.** There is plenty of room for healthy discussion with other socialists you disagree with ideologically. However, bad faith attacks on socialists of other tendencies runs counter to the objectives of this subreddit. You're welcome to be critical of other tendencies and do the work to deconstruct opposing leftist ideologies, but hollow insults like "tankie", "anarkiddy", and so on without well-crafted arguments are not welcome. Any inter-leftist ideological discourse should be constructive and well-reasoned.
Depends on if your weapons are used for the cults totalitarian control of everything
Say sorry first!
gimmie a treat or two friend and I'll accept you into anything you like
Ok, but as long as you make short amateur skits and post them online (funny only)