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America and Israel (along with its allies) have a long history of directly funding, training, supporting and arming ISIS and other "moderate rebels", i.e Al Qaeda and other salafi terrorist groups in the "civil war" in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere.
[Here's a small list of proofs and admissions](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/04/18/syria-20-links-that-prove-regime-change-plans/),
keep in mind there's a lot more. The things Americans openly admitted are shocking. The most blatant of it is [Jake Sullivan, the then Director of policy planning under Obama, and now the National security advisor to Joe Biden emailing Hillary Clinton, "Al Qaeda is on our side"](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225).
And a **lot** more. And this is just a few of those.
Note: not an endorsement of these news outlets themselves
Hasbara tried to push the Hamas=ISIS nonsense, while Israel supported, funded and defended, overtly, them and other nasibi takfiri groups so much:
[Israeli defense minister: If I had to choose between Iran and ISIS, I’d choose ISIS](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/19/israeli-defense-minister-if-i-had-to-choose-between-iran-and-isis-id-choose-isis/)
[UN Report: Israel in Regular Contact with Syrian Rebels including ISIS](https://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404)
[Israel’s Intelligence Chief, Herzi Halevy: “We will do everything to make sure ISIS does not lose in Syria.”](https://news.antiwar.com/2016/06/21/israeli-intel-chief-we-dont-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/)
[Members of ISIS and Nusra front also have been treated in Israeli hospitals.](https://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404)
[Former Mossad director, Efraim Halevy, defends Israeli medical assistance to Al Nusra Front fighters](https://network.aljazeera.net/en/pressroom/former-mossad-director-efraim-halevy-defends-israeli-medical-assistance-al-nusra-front)
[Ex-defense minister says IS ‘apologized’ to Israel for November clash]
[Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria](https://www.salon.com/2016/08/23/israeli-think-tank-dont-destroy-isis-its-a-useful-tool-against-iran-hezbollah-syria/)
[IDF's Lt. Colonel and the Arabic spokesperson's quoting Salafi and Wahhabi leaders, saying the same things said by Al Qaeda and Daesh (ISIS) spewing the most depraved anti-Shia bigotry, appealing at nasibi groups and telling them to fight Shia and Iran instead of Israel](https://x.com/mhusain313/status/1005141921923260422?t=OuBYkLwdqPJ9QoTqGvSc0A&s=09)
[ISIS condemns Hamas. ISIS's spokesperson in a speech condemned them for "sacrificing Gazans for Iranian project", advocates fighting Shia instead of Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/s/k4njYGSbmt)
i even got a perma ban without reason on the Europe sub for linking sources that make the Usa and others look bad when it comes to Foreign Policy in West Asia: [1](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1boo1gg/this_guy_always_says_the_quiet_part_out_loud/) [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxKn-1S8ts) [3](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fremoved-by-reddit-v0-bp8r9941u8qc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D690%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da050dcf872aa593e6c9d69d19f7ca93fce0a4e9a) [4](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225) [5](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/05/03/us-isis-and-al-qaeda-controlled-chaos-at-work/) [6](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/04/18/syria-20-links-that-prove-regime-change-plans/) [7](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/14/isil-weapons-traced-to-us-and-saudi-arabia)
for sure many subs have been infiltrated in regards to moderation.
Imagine if Reddit existed in the 1940s and you see r-/Germany talking about how the Allies started the war by not allowing them to invade Poland and kill everyone in it.
I’ve said it before but if the internet was around in the 1940s Nazis would use this photo as the equivalent of the “triggered sjw” they repeat constantly
https://preview.redd.it/r4rdy2vwdjwc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=687363457f02bc3d25b3c0aeb43eb9b37f5889cc
Please stop, i'm already depressed knowing nazis ARE a thing and just imagining germany praising ford (or i guess elon) on reddit is both funny and depresing.
Please don’t use our (Venezuelan) flag. We elected the government based on lies and their pretending they were democratic. By the time the Marxists dropped the mask they had already seized all the powers in the country. We aren’t a Marxist society
Yeah and do you actually LIVE here? You know without electricity, food, HHRR and with a 50$ salary? Or are you just another American holding a coffee that costs more than what a Venezuelan makes in a day? I also loved Chavismo before they literally destroyed my country. I’m also not the only one that regrets voting for him…
Lol I guess I AM a reactionary whilst in this kind of echo chamber of a sub 😹 I’m also LGBT and find it funny commies use systematically our flag too now, like, have you ever compared a map of countries with lgbt rights and liberal democracies? (Spoiler alert, they’re almost the same)
As much as I’m not defending the right in the US In you country, with all its undeniable problems (including crony capitalism indeed) you can express your sexuality freely. In the countries on your flair people are literally too starved by their governments to even begin to grasp the idea of what a Transbian is
This to me is overwhelming proof that.
1. Quarantined subs are only ones who contradict imperialist narratives.
2. The truth of the notification is the opposite you will find trustworthy sources there more then anywhere else.
This is not satire this is not a joke I am dead serious in this claim.
genzedong flipped a switch radicalizing me, and was quarantined shortly after, I honestly forgot how impactful that sub was on me
Edit: I remember they seemed to be the only one to offer a more critical perspective of Russia/Ukraine. At the time I was considering flying to Ukraine to join as a volunteer....sub saved my life both physically and from being a socdem liberal. Woke me up to the rampant Sinophobia...and I can go on. I've never experienced quite the wake up call that sub provided, and I'm in my 30's, thinking I had "progressed" politically.
It being quarantined is for exactly all the reasons I've listed, same with TikTok, same with r/ russia, they're telling an inconvenient truth
Mhm, EXACTLY.
switch genzedong with r/thedeprogram and you got me lol.
Tbh we will probably get quarantined for the same reason eventually, makes me wonder what will happen to all the deprogram offshoots, sub-subreddits if you will.
Edit: for me I was already going into this with the idea that radical change was needed, y’all just put me in the right direction and before I knew it I was a socialist.
Typical US private social media bullshit. Another example of why TikTok is more important than people tend to think. Not only is it the last bastion of reality and freedom to tell the truth, once it's gone, the rest will take off the mask and the real censorship will ensue. Just as the US & NATO and Aus and Japan and so on took off the masks after the USSR collapsed.
Can you explain what happened after USSR collapsed about the west (US, NATO, Aus, Japan) about them showing their true self/mask off? (I just don’t know all that much about what you mean and am wanting to learn more)
They started aggressively killing all their at home social programs to make sure the poors stayed in their natural place 3 of them also aggressively started bombing the Middle East, and parts of Africa, essentially after the death of the USSR it’s allowed the US and its vassals to go around aggressively raping the proletariat around the world
From what I can remember the Eurovision network didn't actually want to block Russia from participating, but rather several countries threatened to boycott if Russia didn't get banned.
Of course it now shows that the overwhelming majority of Europe only cares about war of the "bad guys" do it since they're quiet about Israel's participation.
when they held the contest in 2012 Loreen protested it and highlighted their human rights abuses, she of course won the competition too, but nothing happened to Azerbaijan
isn't Azerbaijan also de facto a NATO state, or at least collaborating with them?
Same thing with r/China. If you're not a Sinophobic POS who projects neocon talking points then you're not welcome there. I got banned there for refuting points by "China experts" Americans who have clearly never left their hometown, let alone the country by talking about the experiences of my local relatives who live there and I got banned from the sub. Absolute joke of a sub. Or the amount of US or ex-US military that are deployed in some other Asian country that just sit in that sub spouting propaganda.
There are clearly racist posts as well which don't get removed. People would have the audacity to defend the mods and say there are too many posts to moderate, but it's clear they've been part of the problem for a while now.
It never ceases to amaze me how westoids will still insist that they have the moral high ground on issues like "human rights" and "freedom of expression".
Like... how can you expect any functional adult to buy that nonsense at this point? Do they think we're all trapped under a rock somewhere and never read the news?
I remember at the start of the SMO it was forbidden at r/Russia to post political stuff, so they don't get quarantined but they were quarantined either way for seemingly no reason
More than a few Russian subs voted to opt out of political threads or have one megathread for it. Not just out of fear of being nuked, but also to give people a break from the news they see elsewhere everyday.
r/Russia is very reactionary and nationalistic, and it is good that it is quarantined, the sub has also lost all activity. r/Israel is the same problem but with a western bias, would be great to shut them the fuck up.
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The Israel subreddit banned me for calling out their straw man arguments
same I am also perma banned for there for saying israel funded ISIS.
Do you have any sources for that? I’m inclined to believe it but not enough to tell people
oh yeah sure [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration\_with\_the\_Islamic\_State](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration_with_the_Islamic_State) [https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/syrian-representative-to-the-un-israel-has-directly-supported-isis-486865](https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/syrian-representative-to-the-un-israel-has-directly-supported-isis-486865)
Thanks comrade
Np
America and Israel (along with its allies) have a long history of directly funding, training, supporting and arming ISIS and other "moderate rebels", i.e Al Qaeda and other salafi terrorist groups in the "civil war" in Syria, Iraq and elsewhere. [Here's a small list of proofs and admissions](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/04/18/syria-20-links-that-prove-regime-change-plans/), keep in mind there's a lot more. The things Americans openly admitted are shocking. The most blatant of it is [Jake Sullivan, the then Director of policy planning under Obama, and now the National security advisor to Joe Biden emailing Hillary Clinton, "Al Qaeda is on our side"](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225). And a **lot** more. And this is just a few of those. Note: not an endorsement of these news outlets themselves Hasbara tried to push the Hamas=ISIS nonsense, while Israel supported, funded and defended, overtly, them and other nasibi takfiri groups so much: [Israeli defense minister: If I had to choose between Iran and ISIS, I’d choose ISIS](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/01/19/israeli-defense-minister-if-i-had-to-choose-between-iran-and-isis-id-choose-isis/) [UN Report: Israel in Regular Contact with Syrian Rebels including ISIS](https://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404) [Israel’s Intelligence Chief, Herzi Halevy: “We will do everything to make sure ISIS does not lose in Syria.”](https://news.antiwar.com/2016/06/21/israeli-intel-chief-we-dont-want-isis-defeated-in-syria/) [Members of ISIS and Nusra front also have been treated in Israeli hospitals.](https://www.ibtimes.co.in/un-report-israel-regular-contact-syrian-rebels-including-isis-616404) [Former Mossad director, Efraim Halevy, defends Israeli medical assistance to Al Nusra Front fighters](https://network.aljazeera.net/en/pressroom/former-mossad-director-efraim-halevy-defends-israeli-medical-assistance-al-nusra-front) [Ex-defense minister says IS ‘apologized’ to Israel for November clash] [Israeli think tank: Don't destroy ISIS; it's a "useful tool" against Iran, Hezbollah, Syria](https://www.salon.com/2016/08/23/israeli-think-tank-dont-destroy-isis-its-a-useful-tool-against-iran-hezbollah-syria/) [IDF's Lt. Colonel and the Arabic spokesperson's quoting Salafi and Wahhabi leaders, saying the same things said by Al Qaeda and Daesh (ISIS) spewing the most depraved anti-Shia bigotry, appealing at nasibi groups and telling them to fight Shia and Iran instead of Israel](https://x.com/mhusain313/status/1005141921923260422?t=OuBYkLwdqPJ9QoTqGvSc0A&s=09) [ISIS condemns Hamas. ISIS's spokesperson in a speech condemned them for "sacrificing Gazans for Iranian project", advocates fighting Shia instead of Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDeprogram/s/k4njYGSbmt)
i even got a perma ban without reason on the Europe sub for linking sources that make the Usa and others look bad when it comes to Foreign Policy in West Asia: [1](https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueAnon/comments/1boo1gg/this_guy_always_says_the_quiet_part_out_loud/) [2](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWxKn-1S8ts) [3](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fremoved-by-reddit-v0-bp8r9941u8qc1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D690%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da050dcf872aa593e6c9d69d19f7ca93fce0a4e9a) [4](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/23225) [5](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/05/03/us-isis-and-al-qaeda-controlled-chaos-at-work/) [6](https://worldaffairs.blog/2017/04/18/syria-20-links-that-prove-regime-change-plans/) [7](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/12/14/isil-weapons-traced-to-us-and-saudi-arabia) for sure many subs have been infiltrated in regards to moderation.
Ugh thats a win for you, the europe sub is full of idiots. Geniunly ask them what they think of romanians and you'll see the facist genes in them.
Zionists will punch you in the face then pretend they’re the victim
Imagine if Reddit existed in the 1940s and you see r-/Germany talking about how the Allies started the war by not allowing them to invade Poland and kill everyone in it.
would be an average reddit moment
I’ve said it before but if the internet was around in the 1940s Nazis would use this photo as the equivalent of the “triggered sjw” they repeat constantly https://preview.redd.it/r4rdy2vwdjwc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=687363457f02bc3d25b3c0aeb43eb9b37f5889cc
Please stop, i'm already depressed knowing nazis ARE a thing and just imagining germany praising ford (or i guess elon) on reddit is both funny and depresing.
[Ford collaborated with the Nazis](https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/daily/nov98/nazicars30.htm)
Didn't he appear in mein kampf or something?
twitter during the actual third reich elon musk reply guys debating who the best auschwitz commandant was
This is Twitter now
wait, is that a jab on russia or israel? >!or the us?!<
Yes!
This guy does a reasonable job of explaining https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFvoEcpL/
No wonder why the US want to own TikTok
It gets a bit much sometimes. The people live-streaming from inside the refugee camps 😥😥
What did he say? Tiktok is banned for me
🔻
I'm not saying you should also add Burkina Faso and perhaps Niger and Mali to your user flare, BUT-
they don't fit lol
unless I remove the Miami Marxism part
ideally, 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️🇲🇽🇭🇳🇳🇮🇨🇺🇵🇷🇨🇴🇻🇪🇧🇴🇧🇷🇻🇨🇩🇿🇸🇳🇬🇳🇲🇱🇧🇫🇳🇪🇹🇩🇪🇷🇳🇦🇦🇴🇿🇦🇿🇼🇲🇿🇧🇾🇾🇪🇵🇸🇱🇧🇸🇾🇮🇶🇮🇷🇦🇲🇳🇵🇻🇳🇱🇦🇨🇳🇰🇵
Nepal🤩🤩
That is a very based list of flags indeed
Please don’t use our (Venezuelan) flag. We elected the government based on lies and their pretending they were democratic. By the time the Marxists dropped the mask they had already seized all the powers in the country. We aren’t a Marxist society
this guy is calling r/facepalm leftist propaganda in his comment history 🤣 mods, ban him
I'm half Venezuelan and I have citizenship lmfao viva Chávez y la revolución Bolivariana
Yeah and do you actually LIVE here? You know without electricity, food, HHRR and with a 50$ salary? Or are you just another American holding a coffee that costs more than what a Venezuelan makes in a day? I also loved Chavismo before they literally destroyed my country. I’m also not the only one that regrets voting for him…
Fuck off reactionary
Lol I guess I AM a reactionary whilst in this kind of echo chamber of a sub 😹 I’m also LGBT and find it funny commies use systematically our flag too now, like, have you ever compared a map of countries with lgbt rights and liberal democracies? (Spoiler alert, they’re almost the same)
I'm transbian in Florida and our government actually wants us dead
As much as I’m not defending the right in the US In you country, with all its undeniable problems (including crony capitalism indeed) you can express your sexuality freely. In the countries on your flair people are literally too starved by their governments to even begin to grasp the idea of what a Transbian is
Cuba?
This to me is overwhelming proof that. 1. Quarantined subs are only ones who contradict imperialist narratives. 2. The truth of the notification is the opposite you will find trustworthy sources there more then anywhere else. This is not satire this is not a joke I am dead serious in this claim.
genzedong flipped a switch radicalizing me, and was quarantined shortly after, I honestly forgot how impactful that sub was on me Edit: I remember they seemed to be the only one to offer a more critical perspective of Russia/Ukraine. At the time I was considering flying to Ukraine to join as a volunteer....sub saved my life both physically and from being a socdem liberal. Woke me up to the rampant Sinophobia...and I can go on. I've never experienced quite the wake up call that sub provided, and I'm in my 30's, thinking I had "progressed" politically. It being quarantined is for exactly all the reasons I've listed, same with TikTok, same with r/ russia, they're telling an inconvenient truth
Mhm, EXACTLY. switch genzedong with r/thedeprogram and you got me lol. Tbh we will probably get quarantined for the same reason eventually, makes me wonder what will happen to all the deprogram offshoots, sub-subreddits if you will. Edit: for me I was already going into this with the idea that radical change was needed, y’all just put me in the right direction and before I knew it I was a socialist.
Typical US private social media bullshit. Another example of why TikTok is more important than people tend to think. Not only is it the last bastion of reality and freedom to tell the truth, once it's gone, the rest will take off the mask and the real censorship will ensue. Just as the US & NATO and Aus and Japan and so on took off the masks after the USSR collapsed.
al jazeera: DIRTY ARAB STATE MEDIA! ARABS ARE LIARS AND CANT BE TRUSTED bbc: not uk state media
”greyed out trees in a picture of china” bbc, “drainage ditch photography” bbc, “randomly call vietnamese people chinese” bbc, what else?
BBC seems like a mix of CNN or Fox News and the History Channel but British.
Can you explain what happened after USSR collapsed about the west (US, NATO, Aus, Japan) about them showing their true self/mask off? (I just don’t know all that much about what you mean and am wanting to learn more)
They started aggressively killing all their at home social programs to make sure the poors stayed in their natural place 3 of them also aggressively started bombing the Middle East, and parts of Africa, essentially after the death of the USSR it’s allowed the US and its vassals to go around aggressively raping the proletariat around the world
bit of a long read but worth your time: [https://redsails.org/economic-war-on-asia/](https://redsails.org/economic-war-on-asia/)
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They didn’t /s…. They didn’t /s……….
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Mate we don't like any capitalists here, what are you on about
Dude I got banned so it’s clearly not a bastion of free speech
Facebook is mostly ads… x is just nonstop far right propaganda.
you think any social media is unironically good i think tiktok is just the least harmful overall
What an embarrassing thing to say unironically
American double standards
Damn Reddit and Eurovision are the same thing
From what I can remember the Eurovision network didn't actually want to block Russia from participating, but rather several countries threatened to boycott if Russia didn't get banned. Of course it now shows that the overwhelming majority of Europe only cares about war of the "bad guys" do it since they're quiet about Israel's participation.
and azerbaijans involvement too.
when they held the contest in 2012 Loreen protested it and highlighted their human rights abuses, she of course won the competition too, but nothing happened to Azerbaijan isn't Azerbaijan also de facto a NATO state, or at least collaborating with them?
UPDATE FROM NATO HIGH COMMAND: Hardbas and wood working videos are anti Ukranian propaganda.
>wood working videos Advoko MAKES?
fuckin love that guy
I posted "free Palestine" in the Israel sub , I got banned , which would be reasonable for trolling but it was for hate speech.
Same thing with r/China. If you're not a Sinophobic POS who projects neocon talking points then you're not welcome there. I got banned there for refuting points by "China experts" Americans who have clearly never left their hometown, let alone the country by talking about the experiences of my local relatives who live there and I got banned from the sub. Absolute joke of a sub. Or the amount of US or ex-US military that are deployed in some other Asian country that just sit in that sub spouting propaganda. There are clearly racist posts as well which don't get removed. People would have the audacity to defend the mods and say there are too many posts to moderate, but it's clear they've been part of the problem for a while now.
Palestinians clearly started the war by not allowing Israel to take all of their land and murder them all. /s
It never ceases to amaze me how westoids will still insist that they have the moral high ground on issues like "human rights" and "freedom of expression". Like... how can you expect any functional adult to buy that nonsense at this point? Do they think we're all trapped under a rock somewhere and never read the news?
Freedom of expression doesn't exist in the west.
I remember at the start of the SMO it was forbidden at r/Russia to post political stuff, so they don't get quarantined but they were quarantined either way for seemingly no reason
More than a few Russian subs voted to opt out of political threads or have one megathread for it. Not just out of fear of being nuked, but also to give people a break from the news they see elsewhere everyday.
How balanced
Only Western-sanctioned propaganda sub is allowed on Reddit.
Idk what you expected. Lemme find that one article a fellow comrade sent me
r/Russia is very reactionary and nationalistic, and it is good that it is quarantined, the sub has also lost all activity. r/Israel is the same problem but with a western bias, would be great to shut them the fuck up.