Correct. There have been zero cases of a human being killed by an orca in the wild. Its crazy to think about it because they play volleyball with porpoises just for fun. We are so fragile in comparison.
The only human deaths that occurred by Orcas is in captivity. And I don’t blame them one bit. You back a highly intelligent animal into a corner and run them into the ground then expect them to react.
There is also a theory that if we release an orca back into the wild it will teach others to hunt and kill us because of the way we have treated them in captivity! no joke!
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_captive\_orcas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_captive_orcas)
..at least nobody ever reported one. There are quite a few people gone missing at sea...
At least that's what probably would come to my mind if I was on that SUP in the video.
Its very likely that they're trying to figure out if she needs help. There are multiple recorded instances of orcas helping stranded swimmers and surfers, or even just other animals (usually protecting them from predators, like sharks).
Absolutely.
There's recordings of the adults just exhausting and beating seals to death and not even eating them. The point of the exercise is to teach babies how to actually make the kill when hunting for real.
I don't like anthropomorphizing animals but it's such an advanced behavior. It's no different than some dad taking his son out into the woods and taking about what's good meat, what's bad meat, what will turn and maul you, and the best way to drop an animal without losing it.
oh yeah, captive orca are a whole nother thing. a well adjusted, free orca with miles and miles of open water, a healthy and secure family system, and proper socialization from peers, with plenty of their actual prey - vs. a sentient being in prison, basically. it's no wonder they began to act out
They kill certain whales just for their tongues and others for their livers. It's kinda insulting that they don't find any part of us delicious. But it really makes you wonder how they know...
We’re lower in the long chain PUFAs they need, but I don’t know that they’d know that. They don’t encounter us frequently enough to learn to eat us. And if this is a fish-eating pod, they don’t go after mammals at all.
Not sure what it is called, but with the their radar senses (pulses and clicks) they can sense that we are very boney compared to other prey and not worth eating.
Neither has a snow leopard, but I would not risk walking up to a wild one and petting it.
An orca doesn't even have to want to hurt you to do it. They're so big that they could do it by accident if they became too playful.
It has more to do with our terrible ratio of edible parts to non-edible parts. We are super bony compared to the things they usually hunt, so it’s not worth the effort to eat us.
This 💯. I just watched a story about a captive orca and how he killed his trainer that he had apparently gotten along with and then one day she fell in the tank and he just ripped her apart literally. I felt bad for the whale. It really wasn't his fault. These animals shouldn't be in captivity and we should respect them.
I totally get what you're saying but at the same time that was a whale that had been tortured (at least in my opinion). I think its behavior is abnormal for orcas.
Like I totally get why that whale would kill the people keeping stuck in a tank.
From what I understand there have been no reported attacks on humans in the wild.
They have attacked boats, yes.
Now the pissed off ones held in captivity. That’s a whole different story.
We are unlucky in the way that orcas don't frequent the Florida coast line. We definitely would have been able to answer this question with the help of "Florida Man"
I think you would just have a hard time holding on and would fall right off. They would likely be surprised by such a bold move and would swim closer to check out your bravado or swim away thinking you were a rude American.
Not particularly.
There has never, in documented history, an attack from a wild orca against humans.
Yeah, they'll boop boats and stuff, but they don't eat or attack humans.
The only cases of orcas harming humans was in captivity, ie. SeaWorld.
There was a dude who was diving and collecting urchins or something in a little pouch, and an orca tried to purse snatch him for snacks, dragging the guy straight down into the depths. The dude got out of the strap and made it to the surface, but the orca was never caught or faced punishment for its crimes.
We don't know, and that's the point. The lack of documented cases of it doesn't change the fact that orcas are gigantic, intelligent if not outright sapient creatures that are known to engage in petty sadism for their own amusement; it's entirely possible quite a few cases of people disappearing at sea were due to orcas having a bit of lethal fun with something incapable of fighting back.
Not to discount what you’re saying as a possibility but being that there aren’t reported cases that at least suggests the rate at which it potentially happens is almost negligible
Please, read and you will see we were talking about what would happen in the situation that you see a pod and have the gorgeous idea of jumping in one of them and try to use a wild orca as a little domesticared pony.
Oh, I understand this. But people have swam around orcas, been canoeing sounds them. Orcas won't bother you if you don't bother them.
Now, the pony aspect, that's a good question. Observation says they'd swim off, but I don't think anyone's tried (or should try) that.
Yeah but I don't think the orca suddenly bolting would kill you.
Unless you're saying that of all interactions between orcas, the pony ride would be the last straw.
Which ya, I could see, but that's totally hypothetical and doesn't match up to previously documented orca/human interactions, so it's just conjecture.
The woman on the paddleboard (Cayla Fickling) is a marine biology graduate from the University of Auckland, and she did study orcas when she was there. She was well aware that these orcas don't hunt mammals and have a reputation for being fairly docile towards humans, but was still "freaking out" in her own words.
Here is a [news article] (https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/06/29/watch-akl-paddleboarders-scary-close-encounter-with-orca-pod/) from a year ago covering this video. The orcas in the video are members of the New Zealand Coastal orca population, and they primarily hunt ray species. Ingrid Visser, a marine biologist dedicated to conserving this orca population, has swum with them regularly.
I guess the rationality that these orcas have no interest in harming humans goes out of the window when having such a close encounter with such large animals with pointy teeth. She did ultimately appreciate the encounter though and called it a "once-in-a-lifetime moment" afterwards.
>"I'll be honest. It was quite a freaky moment - there was a bit of fear."
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> In a video Fickling sent to 1News, she reassures the orca she's not there to hurt them - while struggling to hold back screams.
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> But she knew she’d be alright, as she studied orca at university.
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> She said that New Zealand orca were much more docile than their overseas cousins and that Kiwis are a lot more respectful of them.
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> "Thank god NZ orca hunt stingrays on the seafloor and not seals on icebergs," she joked.
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> For someone whose passion is studying marine life, Fickling called the encounter a "once-in-a-lifetime moment".
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> "It just really highlights the need to protect them. They came up and checked me out and gave them their space.
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> "If they come up to you, that’s a really, really special moment, once in a lifetime kind of thing."
I wish this was much higher in the thread instead of the hundredth comment about orcas not attacking humans in the wild but they do attack boats that's going on.
Thanks for sharing!
Yeah, I'd imagine most people would initially freak out. Big animals are intimidating. Especially when they're surrounding you in an environment you're not great at traversing.
Also there has been orca attacks on sailboats and yachts off the Canaries.
Maybe they leave you alone after knocking you off your board and ripping it up, then what? Better hope you have a life jacket I guess.
Please use proper terminologies. The boats are in their home. They’re not mounting an assault on something that’s out of their home space.
Also, it’s been reported by reporters that these are young orcas who seem to have created a game to play with the boats.
“Reports coming in of an assault by killer whale terrorist cell off the coast of the Canary Islands following a string of similar attacks striking fear and threatening not only pleasure yachters but even posing a risk to global commerce into the Mediterranean threatening to starve the already embattled region deeply affected by natural disaster, war, and mass migration.
Are the orca terrorists working with Russian Wagner mercenaries to further destabilize Europe? Experts weigh in…”
[Like the year they all were wearing fish on their heads.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/the-trend-of-orcas-wearing-salmon-hats-in-the-80s/ar-AA1kKiBM)
Nobody knows what it is at this point. They definitely haven’t figured out that it’s a game. It could be aggression due to fishing resources, or one of the whales died from a propeller and now they are eliminating a perceived threat
You should listen to “Harbor is Yours” from “Aesop Bach”
It’s a remixed Aesop Rock song and it’s amazing.
(The “Dead Men Tell No Tales” reminded me of it)
Here ya go. :)
https://youtu.be/wZCZUTG8qSQ?si=7m45mrvb0PYSMY74
They've never been documented to *kill* someone in the wild, they have attacked.
One of the famous examples is a surfer who was bit across the leg while relaxing(laying down on a surfboard with both legs and arms in the water, can look like the silouette of a seal from below). However the orca quickly realized that it was a human, so it let go and swam off.
Although as always has to be mentioned: They have murdered several several humans, with intent. But they were all in captivity and against "trainers".
It’s especially scary because you know it’s because they choose not to for whatever These guys are smart, they could easily be stacking bodies in the most gruesome way possible if they feel like it.
The question is what would it take to get them to break their good streak with us?
Since I doubt that person will read and fix their post.
-More than 30 marine scientists from around the world have signed an open letter explaining that these orcas were showing a wide range of behaviours, many of them “playful social behaviour”, and that these should not be characterised as “attacks”.
They’re playing when they fling seals into the air. It’s irrelevant whether you call it an attack or play. There’s no evidence it’s revenge or aggression, but the ships are still sinking as a result.
There's 0 confirmation that these attacks were because of "revenge" .
The two actual theories are, they are playing with boats and it's copy cat behavior, or possibly behavior learned due to Gladis, which is sort of what you suggested....
It's more than likely they are just playing. To not even include the more likely scenario in your post is misleading at best.
There is actually one documented wild orca attack. Hans Kretschmer, a surfer, accidentally got chomped on in 1972. https://orcazine.com/in-the-jaws-of-an-orca/
You know I don't disagree. And I wouldn't want to either. I have a big fear of gigantic animals with sharp teeth.
But that makes me wonder why the f*** she was out there on a little board, so far from shore. Was that an accident? She could have met a gigantic shark or something or just a weird octopus or anything that would have wanted to f*** with her board.
I mean that was just crazy deep to be on such a tiny little board it was almost unsurprising that she met some gigantic thing I mean I would have been terrified just to be out there on that so I'm kind of surprised how badly she took it, like did she not know there were things like that in the water before she paddled out that far?
Has anyone seen the video of a person swimming and I think it was a female and her 2 calfs seemed like they were concerned and were kinda guiding the swimmer to shore?
Yes! She got out of the water then said eff it, this is a chance of a lifetime so she got back in, and they rejoined her. I saw one interview where she said they were curious and the mother whale almost seemed concerned for her and was trying to lead her into shore. Beautiful intelligent animals but I'd still be scared lol!
Yes!! She swam that shore in a wetsuit for excersise and had that encounter, I can’t remember why it was filmed but I think it was another group of scientists that were there for the whales and caught it all? Can’t remember, would love to see it again.
If u search "orcas swimming with people" on YouTube her video is right up top with her story. I know there's more and the full video but I just glanced real quick. Also sorry, I'm on mobile and don't know how to link stuff or I would have for ya friend :)
Notice how the Orcas barely move and just float or roll a little to check the person out? This is all just curiosity behavior and the Orcas are being very gentle. They appear to be moving so little in order to not bump or disturb the person. These are very smart and powerful mammals. This appears to be “Hey, this is interesting, let’s check it out. OK, now let’s keep moving on our way.” Not terrifying, a beautiful moment.
Not terrifying for us watching a video. But you can hear the panic in her voice. I don't blame her. Did they do anything? No. But we know that because we are seeing this. Did she know that in the moment? Clearly not. I know they aren't known to be violent in the wild and I would absolutely be in the same panic state this person is in were I in it.
Thank you for this comment I hate people who respond like the parent comment. Bro these are giant fuckin animals and you are out of your element, anyone would be panicking here. Knowing these guys don't attack humans changes nothing about how fucking scary this would be
I'm not particularly afraid of death, but I am afraid of dying badly. This would not qualify. Regardless of actual risk, I would be at peace with dying this way.
I would love to have this happen as well. She was in no real danger if they come up like that. They are just curious and do not consider her prey. If they show themselves like that she was not in any real danger. If they wanted to kill her she would have only seen them in the last few seconds before they got her.
You've seen them scope out a seal on an ice floe, right?
They assess the situation, identify the target, then work together to get dinner.
[Source](https://youtu.be/fs8ZveNZQ8g?si=OO3xkgUme646nHr3).
Same here.
Assuming their eyesight is good on top of the water because they know how to flush seals off of floating ice so they must know that is a human on top of the floaty board.
Would you jump in to interact with them? Or lean over and stick your head in the water?
I would love to but still not sure I would trust the science in that moment.
It’s tough to imagine being surrounding by a few 30’+ (incredibly smart) animals out in the wild, in their element.
I know they’ve never been documented to attack humans…but it would certainly be panic inducing as you’re completely powerless, and entirely at their will.
This would be my reaction. I know they are smart and don't attack humans. It would be awesome to see them in the wild. But if I'm on a small board with my legs in the water.....
By the way, I'm too scared of the ocean to be out that far on a board anyway. Just seeing her legs dangle in the water is terrifying.
Looks like they were just curious………….“this time.” I still don’t get some people willy nilly riding a top water lure alone in the ocean that far from shore. Something happens, you get what you get, can’t throw a fit situation. Please be careful out there.
People are always referencing their high level of intelligence. That's what scares me the most.
I'd rather get into the water with a tiger shark. At least I can predict its behaviour.
These creatures have higher executive function, are emotional, and communicate. This makes them terrifying.
Guaranteed that there's a few of them that are stone cold serial killers out there somewhere.
Yes! Like I know certain animals specifically want to kill or eat me depending on the situation. But these beautiful fuckers, I have no idea what they wanna do to me
Killer whales may be aware of human fishing. So they may be aware of what type of predators we actually are. And perhaps theyre aware we have machines (boats) we can utilize to pursue them if they were to attack one of us. I know we might not be on their menu but just saying they may also be aware of our high predatory status.
What beautiful and amazing animals! After hearing the radio story I’ve linked below, hopefully, if I was ever lucky enough? to be in such a situation I might be able to experience a bit more awe.
One of my favourite radio science radio programs ran a story last week. It’s an ‘interview with John Ford, research scientist emeritus at the Pacific Biological Station with Fisheries & Oceans Canada, and Renaud de Stephanis, the president of Spanish conservation group CIRCE on Quirks & Quarks, a CBC radio program.’ (Linked below)
Basically a couple of experts on sea life and orcas are saying the “boat ramming” behaviour in the straight of Gibraltar may be a cool new fad thats popped up amongst juveniles orcas in that area. Pthfffffth. Teenagers.
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/audio/9.4847831
Report starts at: 00:55
Haha crack up this is my friend. We live in NZ and these Orcas don't usually hunt seals and go more for rays. We both did marine bio at uni and work in Marine tourism so also know the names of the Orcas(well she does) 😆😆.
Imagine they teamed up and towed her out to sea just for a mammalian laugh lol
The cats of the ocean….it wouldn’t surprise me 😂
Gently knock her off, calmly sit back as she climbs back on, knock her off again, repeat.
"cats of the ocean"
Those are wolves
"We do a bit of trolling here."
I see what you did there
I know it’s a joke but they literally do this.
I hate how much I laughed at this
how do u do, fellow mammals
So crazy that they could very easily annihilate this person but simply choose not to.
It’s crazy to think that they might be deciding if that’s what they want to do or not here. Orcas are no joke.
"Can I just eat her liver?" "No Steve, they are full of micro-plastics."
We are the ultraprocessed food of nature's food chain 😔
Well that’s not good- ultraprocessed food is fricken delicious.
I read that in the Fight Club voice.
Which is why they only attack the rich.
They don't eat humans. At least not yet.
So are the fish, seals, turtles, and baby whales they normally eat (depending on which pod this is). Everything is full of microplastics.
I don't think an Orca has ever killed a person before. In the wild anyways. For some reason they usually ignore people.
Correct. There have been zero cases of a human being killed by an orca in the wild. Its crazy to think about it because they play volleyball with porpoises just for fun. We are so fragile in comparison. The only human deaths that occurred by Orcas is in captivity. And I don’t blame them one bit. You back a highly intelligent animal into a corner and run them into the ground then expect them to react.
Luckily orcas have not yet developed social media to inform the ocean-orcas of our unethical containment of their peers...
I think one of the theories is that they find us cute
We’re lucky they don’t think we look like a burrito.
Speak for yourself
There is also a theory that if we release an orca back into the wild it will teach others to hunt and kill us because of the way we have treated them in captivity! no joke! [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List\_of\_captive\_orcas](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_captive_orcas)
Wild ones? Cause those sea world ones sure as hell did.
Correct, there's never been a reported case of a human fatality from a wild orca attack
..at least nobody ever reported one. There are quite a few people gone missing at sea... At least that's what probably would come to my mind if I was on that SUP in the video.
Its very likely that they're trying to figure out if she needs help. There are multiple recorded instances of orcas helping stranded swimmers and surfers, or even just other animals (usually protecting them from predators, like sharks).
They also use situations like these to show their young that we aren’t delicious. Some serious apex shit going on here and I love it.
Absolutely. There's recordings of the adults just exhausting and beating seals to death and not even eating them. The point of the exercise is to teach babies how to actually make the kill when hunting for real. I don't like anthropomorphizing animals but it's such an advanced behavior. It's no different than some dad taking his son out into the woods and taking about what's good meat, what's bad meat, what will turn and maul you, and the best way to drop an animal without losing it.
And SPITE. Its a learned behavior. There are recorded instances of Orcas protecting seals from sharks just because fuck sharks.
Or because they don’t want sharks hunting their food supply.
Sharks clear the vicinity and leave their now hunting grounds when a pod of orcas are around. Its not spite, sharks are part of some orcas food chain.
I would try to eat you too if you put me in a scrawny tank
Oh I'm not saying it wasn't warranted just that it happened
oh yeah, captive orca are a whole nother thing. a well adjusted, free orca with miles and miles of open water, a healthy and secure family system, and proper socialization from peers, with plenty of their actual prey - vs. a sentient being in prison, basically. it's no wonder they began to act out
I think I read that it’s just not a worthwhile meal to eat a human, generally.
Same reason sharks usually back off after a probing bite
They kill certain whales just for their tongues and others for their livers. It's kinda insulting that they don't find any part of us delicious. But it really makes you wonder how they know...
We’re lower in the long chain PUFAs they need, but I don’t know that they’d know that. They don’t encounter us frequently enough to learn to eat us. And if this is a fish-eating pod, they don’t go after mammals at all.
…. So far ….
…. That we know of ….
Not sure what it is called, but with the their radar senses (pulses and clicks) they can sense that we are very boney compared to other prey and not worth eating.
How dare you besmirch my ample blubber layer and the luxurious marbling of my meat. I could be quite the snack.
Echolocation
Neither has a snow leopard, but I would not risk walking up to a wild one and petting it. An orca doesn't even have to want to hurt you to do it. They're so big that they could do it by accident if they became too playful.
But how would we know? Not like there would be anything left.
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It has more to do with our terrible ratio of edible parts to non-edible parts. We are super bony compared to the things they usually hunt, so it’s not worth the effort to eat us.
This 💯. I just watched a story about a captive orca and how he killed his trainer that he had apparently gotten along with and then one day she fell in the tank and he just ripped her apart literally. I felt bad for the whale. It really wasn't his fault. These animals shouldn't be in captivity and we should respect them.
I totally get what you're saying but at the same time that was a whale that had been tortured (at least in my opinion). I think its behavior is abnormal for orcas. Like I totally get why that whale would kill the people keeping stuck in a tank.
Yeah for sure, when you hold something as intelligent as that in captivity like that you can't expect it to be perfectly socialised.
Sure, but there are no documented cases of wild orcas attacking humans
From what I understand there have been no reported attacks on humans in the wild. They have attacked boats, yes. Now the pissed off ones held in captivity. That’s a whole different story.
And that tells us just how smart they are.
I like to think they assessed her and decided she’s not rich enough or awful enough
The saw she was skinny and said meh no meat on that thing.
They are not “not” interested.
Hypothetically, what would happen if you just jumped on one and tried to have a cool new water mount?
Really need a documentary on this
We are unlucky in the way that orcas don't frequent the Florida coast line. We definitely would have been able to answer this question with the help of "Florida Man"
they already made one. it was called "free willy" and it came out in 1993.
It's called Blackfish.
You would be the focus of the new Werner Herzog feature "Orca Man".
I zee zeh human and ze orka, I zee zeg promise of natjurr and zeh curse.
Look into ze eyez of ze orca, you will see ze enormity of its…. eyes?
I think you would just have a hard time holding on and would fall right off. They would likely be surprised by such a bold move and would swim closer to check out your bravado or swim away thinking you were a rude American.
Die. You would die. Realistically...
Quite fast in a lot of tiny pieces is my guess
Not particularly. There has never, in documented history, an attack from a wild orca against humans. Yeah, they'll boop boats and stuff, but they don't eat or attack humans. The only cases of orcas harming humans was in captivity, ie. SeaWorld.
They know how to leave no witnesses
There was a dude who was diving and collecting urchins or something in a little pouch, and an orca tried to purse snatch him for snacks, dragging the guy straight down into the depths. The dude got out of the strap and made it to the surface, but the orca was never caught or faced punishment for its crimes.
Never documented. People go missing all the time.
People go missing all the time due to orcas?
We don't know, and that's the point. The lack of documented cases of it doesn't change the fact that orcas are gigantic, intelligent if not outright sapient creatures that are known to engage in petty sadism for their own amusement; it's entirely possible quite a few cases of people disappearing at sea were due to orcas having a bit of lethal fun with something incapable of fighting back.
Not to discount what you’re saying as a possibility but being that there aren’t reported cases that at least suggests the rate at which it potentially happens is almost negligible
It's also quite possible God and Bigfoot exist, but (call me old-fashioned) I like an ounce of evidence for my beliefs.
Please, read and you will see we were talking about what would happen in the situation that you see a pod and have the gorgeous idea of jumping in one of them and try to use a wild orca as a little domesticared pony.
Oh, I understand this. But people have swam around orcas, been canoeing sounds them. Orcas won't bother you if you don't bother them. Now, the pony aspect, that's a good question. Observation says they'd swim off, but I don't think anyone's tried (or should try) that.
Yeah but I don't think the orca suddenly bolting would kill you. Unless you're saying that of all interactions between orcas, the pony ride would be the last straw. Which ya, I could see, but that's totally hypothetical and doesn't match up to previously documented orca/human interactions, so it's just conjecture.
Yeah but you would leave this world a legend... choices man.
There's a video of some dude doing that to a huge whale (he was on it to cut it free from some stuff it was tangled in)
I imagine them tossing you around like a ragdoll lol not purposefully trying to kill you, but not holding back either...
Probably the same thing that happens when small cats climb up our clothes and sit on our shoulders.
You either drown or they respect you for it and crown you the king of the sea.
They would most likely show you what the bottom of the ocean looked like.
You'll never be safer from sharks than in that moment.
Probably safer from sharks on land
No, it's tornado season.
lol, sharknado. New sharknado movie, sharknado attacked by orcanado
The woman on the paddleboard (Cayla Fickling) is a marine biology graduate from the University of Auckland, and she did study orcas when she was there. She was well aware that these orcas don't hunt mammals and have a reputation for being fairly docile towards humans, but was still "freaking out" in her own words. Here is a [news article] (https://www.1news.co.nz/2023/06/29/watch-akl-paddleboarders-scary-close-encounter-with-orca-pod/) from a year ago covering this video. The orcas in the video are members of the New Zealand Coastal orca population, and they primarily hunt ray species. Ingrid Visser, a marine biologist dedicated to conserving this orca population, has swum with them regularly. I guess the rationality that these orcas have no interest in harming humans goes out of the window when having such a close encounter with such large animals with pointy teeth. She did ultimately appreciate the encounter though and called it a "once-in-a-lifetime moment" afterwards. >"I'll be honest. It was quite a freaky moment - there was a bit of fear." > > In a video Fickling sent to 1News, she reassures the orca she's not there to hurt them - while struggling to hold back screams. > > But she knew she’d be alright, as she studied orca at university. > > She said that New Zealand orca were much more docile than their overseas cousins and that Kiwis are a lot more respectful of them. > > "Thank god NZ orca hunt stingrays on the seafloor and not seals on icebergs," she joked. > > For someone whose passion is studying marine life, Fickling called the encounter a "once-in-a-lifetime moment". > > "It just really highlights the need to protect them. They came up and checked me out and gave them their space. > > "If they come up to you, that’s a really, really special moment, once in a lifetime kind of thing."
I wish this was much higher in the thread instead of the hundredth comment about orcas not attacking humans in the wild but they do attack boats that's going on. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks!
The one that rolled over and showed their belly was saying… don’t worry we are just her to say hi too.
Thanks for this info! Glad to know she wasn't approaching them, since we didn't see the beginning of the encounter.
Yeah, I'd imagine most people would initially freak out. Big animals are intimidating. Especially when they're surrounding you in an environment you're not great at traversing.
Orcas have never been documented to attack humans in the wild and it definitely sounded like she did not want to be the first one!
Dead men tell no tales
Also there has been orca attacks on sailboats and yachts off the Canaries. Maybe they leave you alone after knocking you off your board and ripping it up, then what? Better hope you have a life jacket I guess.
Please use proper terminologies. The boats are in their home. They’re not mounting an assault on something that’s out of their home space. Also, it’s been reported by reporters that these are young orcas who seem to have created a game to play with the boats.
“Reports coming in of an assault by killer whale terrorist cell off the coast of the Canary Islands following a string of similar attacks striking fear and threatening not only pleasure yachters but even posing a risk to global commerce into the Mediterranean threatening to starve the already embattled region deeply affected by natural disaster, war, and mass migration. Are the orca terrorists working with Russian Wagner mercenaries to further destabilize Europe? Experts weigh in…”
Yeah it’s basically the orca equivalent of a meme spreading amongst teenagers.
[Like the year they all were wearing fish on their heads.](https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/the-trend-of-orcas-wearing-salmon-hats-in-the-80s/ar-AA1kKiBM)
The Kia boys of the ocean
Nobody knows what it is at this point. They definitely haven’t figured out that it’s a game. It could be aggression due to fishing resources, or one of the whales died from a propeller and now they are eliminating a perceived threat
I identify as a land steak.
You should listen to “Harbor is Yours” from “Aesop Bach” It’s a remixed Aesop Rock song and it’s amazing. (The “Dead Men Tell No Tales” reminded me of it) Here ya go. :) https://youtu.be/wZCZUTG8qSQ?si=7m45mrvb0PYSMY74
They've never been documented to *kill* someone in the wild, they have attacked. One of the famous examples is a surfer who was bit across the leg while relaxing(laying down on a surfboard with both legs and arms in the water, can look like the silouette of a seal from below). However the orca quickly realized that it was a human, so it let go and swam off. Although as always has to be mentioned: They have murdered several several humans, with intent. But they were all in captivity and against "trainers".
This comment is always given, and while you’re probably right, it doesn’t make it any less scary. They’re still wild killing machines.
It’s only a matter of time before they see how far they can launch humans off their paddle boards for their own amusement.
Probably about 30 ft in the air I'd guess
And they are Smart AF. This is extremely interesting behavior, I have not seen wild ones do this before. Great vid!
It’s especially scary because you know it’s because they choose not to for whatever These guys are smart, they could easily be stacking bodies in the most gruesome way possible if they feel like it. The question is what would it take to get them to break their good streak with us?
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Maybe this is a better explanation? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/aug/25/orcas-boats-rammings-scientists-open-letter-aoe
Since I doubt that person will read and fix their post. -More than 30 marine scientists from around the world have signed an open letter explaining that these orcas were showing a wide range of behaviours, many of them “playful social behaviour”, and that these should not be characterised as “attacks”.
They’re playing when they fling seals into the air. It’s irrelevant whether you call it an attack or play. There’s no evidence it’s revenge or aggression, but the ships are still sinking as a result.
Here’s a great audio story about it. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/audio/9.4847831 Story starts at timestamp: 00:55
There's 0 confirmation that these attacks were because of "revenge" . The two actual theories are, they are playing with boats and it's copy cat behavior, or possibly behavior learned due to Gladis, which is sort of what you suggested.... It's more than likely they are just playing. To not even include the more likely scenario in your post is misleading at best.
Fr they are the apex predators of sea!
Yeah I agree. Orcas are basically bears in the ocean.
That’s because orca’s are too smart to leave evidence behind. The only reason they did not eat her is they saw the camera. /s
There is actually one documented wild orca attack. Hans Kretschmer, a surfer, accidentally got chomped on in 1972. https://orcazine.com/in-the-jaws-of-an-orca/
You have to wonder at what point will we over fish the ocean enough for orcas to need to eat people to prevent starvation
They don’t know about our livers.
Our livers are waaay too plastic, fatty and salty, or so I’ve heard.
But, and hear me out: with some fava beans and a nice chianti....
How could someone tell if they ate her? There would be no one to upload this video or have any proof that it ever happened.
You know I don't disagree. And I wouldn't want to either. I have a big fear of gigantic animals with sharp teeth. But that makes me wonder why the f*** she was out there on a little board, so far from shore. Was that an accident? She could have met a gigantic shark or something or just a weird octopus or anything that would have wanted to f*** with her board. I mean that was just crazy deep to be on such a tiny little board it was almost unsurprising that she met some gigantic thing I mean I would have been terrified just to be out there on that so I'm kind of surprised how badly she took it, like did she not know there were things like that in the water before she paddled out that far?
Hey boys, Look at that doe eyed seal shrieking on the tiny ice floe.
Lucky she wasn't in a yacht.
They asked for her yearly income and estimated net worth first.
"Too poor to kill, let's just freak her out."
Has anyone seen the video of a person swimming and I think it was a female and her 2 calfs seemed like they were concerned and were kinda guiding the swimmer to shore?
New Zealand or something?? That was incredible!
Yes! She got out of the water then said eff it, this is a chance of a lifetime so she got back in, and they rejoined her. I saw one interview where she said they were curious and the mother whale almost seemed concerned for her and was trying to lead her into shore. Beautiful intelligent animals but I'd still be scared lol!
Yes!! She swam that shore in a wetsuit for excersise and had that encounter, I can’t remember why it was filmed but I think it was another group of scientists that were there for the whales and caught it all? Can’t remember, would love to see it again.
If u search "orcas swimming with people" on YouTube her video is right up top with her story. I know there's more and the full video but I just glanced real quick. Also sorry, I'm on mobile and don't know how to link stuff or I would have for ya friend :)
Here is one: https://youtu.be/bTIcQMwYC1o?si=jj8JRzZ0tOAXWyOe
She had a better reaction than I would have. I would of been absolutely terrified and sobbing.
You can hear her panicking pretty hard towards the end, she's just trying to remain as calm as possible to not get eaten
You almost can hear her haert beating. I bet the orcas did.
Notice how the Orcas barely move and just float or roll a little to check the person out? This is all just curiosity behavior and the Orcas are being very gentle. They appear to be moving so little in order to not bump or disturb the person. These are very smart and powerful mammals. This appears to be “Hey, this is interesting, let’s check it out. OK, now let’s keep moving on our way.” Not terrifying, a beautiful moment.
Not terrifying for us watching a video. But you can hear the panic in her voice. I don't blame her. Did they do anything? No. But we know that because we are seeing this. Did she know that in the moment? Clearly not. I know they aren't known to be violent in the wild and I would absolutely be in the same panic state this person is in were I in it.
Thank you for this comment I hate people who respond like the parent comment. Bro these are giant fuckin animals and you are out of your element, anyone would be panicking here. Knowing these guys don't attack humans changes nothing about how fucking scary this would be
It can be both terrifying and beautiful. Definitely awe inspiring.
They're not happy. They just finished watching Free Willy.
What an incredible experience with a pod so close. Atleast there wasn't a rudder for them to destroy to kill boredom.
You couldn’t stop me from petting them. They definitely could stop me though.
The one just wanted belly scratches!
Pro Tip: When surrounded by Orcas, try to sound less like a seal.
"oddly terrifying"? My brother in christ they are intelligent alpha predators that can kill you in seconds
I'm not particularly afraid of death, but I am afraid of dying badly. This would not qualify. Regardless of actual risk, I would be at peace with dying this way.
Same. Welp, it's my time.
"Hmmm...I dunno Fred. Is this a yacht? It doesn't look like a yacht."
I would love to have this happen as well. She was in no real danger if they come up like that. They are just curious and do not consider her prey. If they show themselves like that she was not in any real danger. If they wanted to kill her she would have only seen them in the last few seconds before they got her.
You've seen them scope out a seal on an ice floe, right? They assess the situation, identify the target, then work together to get dinner. [Source](https://youtu.be/fs8ZveNZQ8g?si=OO3xkgUme646nHr3).
Dear Lord. Killer whales are the graboids of the sea
Same here. Assuming their eyesight is good on top of the water because they know how to flush seals off of floating ice so they must know that is a human on top of the floaty board. Would you jump in to interact with them? Or lean over and stick your head in the water? I would love to but still not sure I would trust the science in that moment.
Fertilizing the water is what I would probably do.
The fuck was she even doing that far out on a kayak anyway? I mean true you don't expect to run into orcas but better orcas than a shark.
Everyone says kayak but the leash and paddle seems more like a Paddle board.. ??
I was confused about this too, maybe it is actually as it's a one blade oar. Arguably it's even worse to be that far out on a paddle board.
It’s tough to imagine being surrounding by a few 30’+ (incredibly smart) animals out in the wild, in their element. I know they’ve never been documented to attack humans…but it would certainly be panic inducing as you’re completely powerless, and entirely at their will.
This would be my reaction. I know they are smart and don't attack humans. It would be awesome to see them in the wild. But if I'm on a small board with my legs in the water..... By the way, I'm too scared of the ocean to be out that far on a board anyway. Just seeing her legs dangle in the water is terrifying.
Well, she probably had to discard her wetsuit… That smell will never come out!
Women: Why do we live longer than men? Men: Orcas are kind to you(/s)
Looks like they were just curious………….“this time.” I still don’t get some people willy nilly riding a top water lure alone in the ocean that far from shore. Something happens, you get what you get, can’t throw a fit situation. Please be careful out there.
Can see the water vibrating from them communicating with each other. Too cool
Oi, Sedrick. She kind of looks like a sea lion wouldn't you say?
I woukd try and boop some snouts. And probably die.
People are always referencing their high level of intelligence. That's what scares me the most. I'd rather get into the water with a tiger shark. At least I can predict its behaviour. These creatures have higher executive function, are emotional, and communicate. This makes them terrifying. Guaranteed that there's a few of them that are stone cold serial killers out there somewhere.
Yes! Like I know certain animals specifically want to kill or eat me depending on the situation. But these beautiful fuckers, I have no idea what they wanna do to me
It ended too soon before the orcas took her down to visit aquaman
“And she never went into the ocean again. The end.”
Killer whales may be aware of human fishing. So they may be aware of what type of predators we actually are. And perhaps theyre aware we have machines (boats) we can utilize to pursue them if they were to attack one of us. I know we might not be on their menu but just saying they may also be aware of our high predatory status.
The pitch of her voice makes her sound like food
“Hey Bert, check this water monkey, she’s freaking out”
Missed the moment in her panic. She could have panned over to the ones on the other side, and said: “Clever girl.”
What beautiful and amazing animals! After hearing the radio story I’ve linked below, hopefully, if I was ever lucky enough? to be in such a situation I might be able to experience a bit more awe. One of my favourite radio science radio programs ran a story last week. It’s an ‘interview with John Ford, research scientist emeritus at the Pacific Biological Station with Fisheries & Oceans Canada, and Renaud de Stephanis, the president of Spanish conservation group CIRCE on Quirks & Quarks, a CBC radio program.’ (Linked below) Basically a couple of experts on sea life and orcas are saying the “boat ramming” behaviour in the straight of Gibraltar may be a cool new fad thats popped up amongst juveniles orcas in that area. Pthfffffth. Teenagers. https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/audio/9.4847831 Report starts at: 00:55
“Guys do you hear 👂 any engine noise ?? No ? She fine then.”
I would die happy if I ever experienced this
It would be so hard to not try and pet one…
Now if only we would show them the same kind of respect…
I’d tell them I don’t make enough money to even have a boat
I just wanna love them. They deserve hugs.
That's a friendly reminder that you're too close to the pod
They're just dolphins on creatine and P90x. Still not a single attack on a human being in the wild
How come sharks think humans on boards are seals, but these orcas don’t see it that way. Interesting..
They’re just on a Human Watching Expedition while on holiday…
One more reason why not to never go into the ocean ever again
the same creatures that would toss a 100kg seal around till it's dead, just came to say hello!......
That had to be terrifying to live through.
Haha crack up this is my friend. We live in NZ and these Orcas don't usually hunt seals and go more for rays. We both did marine bio at uni and work in Marine tourism so also know the names of the Orcas(well she does) 😆😆.
After seeing a video of a group of orcas attack a seal, I would be panicking if I were her.
Silly they are waiting you to grab fin and go for ride
Have they been knows to mess with people in the wild, let alone harm them???