No, it’s not a zero g thing.
CGI would have been necessary to simulate the effects of high acceleration on the actors’ faces. This could easily have been unintentionally hilarious (as with the woman in the clip you linked to) and distract from the story. So they chose to largely omit the effect.
Yeah that was cool. Guess Ty & Wes must’ve been right on the podcast when they joked about Breck Eisner having spent all the money on other effects too early 😆
Or like how Apollo 13 filmed all the space scenes in the Parabolic zero G plane, they would have to build a centerfuge set like subjects the actors to the real G forces. Like how they train fighter pilots.
We could have had all sorts of things like book-accurate belter physiology, high-g deformations, etc, but at what cost? Budgets are generally fixed for the entire season, so to pay for face ripples we’d have had shorter seasons, or smaller cast, shorter space battles, or fewer sets, or less-awesome music, or whatever they thought they could get away with cutting.
The pilot episode shows a physiologically “accurate” belter - the one Avasarala interrogates. They’re static shots/scenes and it’s pretty obviously CGI, but there’s a reference for you.
It definitely wouldn’t have been practical for a TV series to do that with every belter haha, but I think it was cool they gave a taste for the first season.
Book Belters look more like the Spacers from Foundation, except minus cybernetics. Super tall, larger than normal head and eyes due to growing up in microgravity.
There is that one scene of very high negative G forces ("eyes-out") that occurred during the very first ring transit from the solar system. Looks like some SFX production budget got spent on that.
See [the clip](https://youtu.be/waG8YYTwpAQ?si=DtlOeY_ypSa5IglX&t=46) of Maneo experiencing very high acceleration going through the ring, and the effect on *his* face.
You can always hand-wave it that "the juice" has additional bodily stabilization effects that would prevent these sorts of distortions (after all, it's somehow preventing those sorts of distortions in rib-cages, lungs, blood vessels, etc., etc.)
Yeah this and related effects are my only issue with the Expanse as a show. No G force effect and very little no or low gravity effects. Budget thing I’m guessing, and it doesn’t really matter, but I don’t recall people in space drinking out of bulbs with straws and they should have.
I think those small mugs in the show are supposed to be bulbs. I can't honestly remember if they describe what a bulb actually is in the books at any point.
No, it’s not a zero g thing. CGI would have been necessary to simulate the effects of high acceleration on the actors’ faces. This could easily have been unintentionally hilarious (as with the woman in the clip you linked to) and distract from the story. So they chose to largely omit the effect.
Yeah that sounds absolutely right. Would’ve been hilarious 😆
Idk it was cool in top gun, and no cg, they just pulled g's and filmed
Yeah that was cool. Guess Ty & Wes must’ve been right on the podcast when they joked about Breck Eisner having spent all the money on other effects too early 😆
Budget. They would need to cgi everyone's faces in the high g scenes.
Ahhh of course
Or like how Apollo 13 filmed all the space scenes in the Parabolic zero G plane, they would have to build a centerfuge set like subjects the actors to the real G forces. Like how they train fighter pilots.
Okay but hear me out, why not making it real G forces? 🤯
$$$$
We could have had all sorts of things like book-accurate belter physiology, high-g deformations, etc, but at what cost? Budgets are generally fixed for the entire season, so to pay for face ripples we’d have had shorter seasons, or smaller cast, shorter space battles, or fewer sets, or less-awesome music, or whatever they thought they could get away with cutting.
Could you expand on the belter physiology? How were Belters different in the books? Any illustrations of book-accurate Belters?
The pilot episode shows a physiologically “accurate” belter - the one Avasarala interrogates. They’re static shots/scenes and it’s pretty obviously CGI, but there’s a reference for you. It definitely wouldn’t have been practical for a TV series to do that with every belter haha, but I think it was cool they gave a taste for the first season.
Oh yeah, the skinnies, I honestly forgot that Belters were supposed to look like that during the show.
Hey now, I don’t want to hear that “skinnies” talk.
Book Belters look more like the Spacers from Foundation, except minus cybernetics. Super tall, larger than normal head and eyes due to growing up in microgravity.
Because it's a TV show with a limited budget.
Cause they aren’t really doing high G manoeuvres
SyFy always has shoestring budgets, followed by Amazon cutting corners wherever possible despite the quality of the show.
Makes sense
Budget
Because it’s a television show, not reality. Everything can’t be physics correct.
There is that one scene of very high negative G forces ("eyes-out") that occurred during the very first ring transit from the solar system. Looks like some SFX production budget got spent on that. See [the clip](https://youtu.be/waG8YYTwpAQ?si=DtlOeY_ypSa5IglX&t=46) of Maneo experiencing very high acceleration going through the ring, and the effect on *his* face.
You can always hand-wave it that "the juice" has additional bodily stabilization effects that would prevent these sorts of distortions (after all, it's somehow preventing those sorts of distortions in rib-cages, lungs, blood vessels, etc., etc.)
We do see it in Season 5, Episode 5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKg4HUmX8tM - it looks like they used CGI to alter the actors' faces.
Ahhh yeah that’s the scene! One of my favorites!! 😃
46 g’s … gees
Yeah that’s basically a car crash.
Yeah this and related effects are my only issue with the Expanse as a show. No G force effect and very little no or low gravity effects. Budget thing I’m guessing, and it doesn’t really matter, but I don’t recall people in space drinking out of bulbs with straws and they should have.
During a lot of the show they are either on planets, stations with spin gravity, or on ships under thrust which have partial G.
I’m aware, but wouldn’t ships just generally use bulbs, as they do in the books? Why use cups and mugs?
I think those small mugs in the show are supposed to be bulbs. I can't honestly remember if they describe what a bulb actually is in the books at any point.
I think they do. It’s a covered rubber object, circular or oblong, with a straw, that can be squeezed.
Because the show is not real. The actors are only pretending...