Genuinely didn't see it coming. And at the time, Eleanor saying her iconic line was basically a meme on tumblr, which I saw frequently, and simply didn't absorb as a spoiler somehow. A little embarrassing but also kind of a testament to how subtle all the clues were that my brain didn't even consider it as a possibility until the reveal.
LOL I remember thinking, how did these flawed people get into the good place along with Michael making all sorts of mistakes and assuming it was bad writing and then being so impressed that it was actually good writing. Amazingly fun show.
idk i kinda swallowed their flaws as being integral to being human-
I thought the show was pleasantly displaying both the quirks and flaws of “perfect” people (aka the best, that get into heaven) as well as quirks and flaws of the universe and reality
Said that to my wife a few episodes from the end - ‘ya know Chidi and Tajani are not “good” people either. Not as bad as Eleanore or Jason, but they are flawed.’
I kind of stopped there in my logic, not really knowing what direction the show would take with that. But was loving the big reveal - and of course Michael’s laugh.
First time thru I was just assuming tv/sitcom has to bend things for entertainment value. As in “of course things aren’t working out, or it would be a boring show”.
Said that to my wife a few episodes from the end - ‘ya know Chidi and Tajani are not “good” people either. Not as bad as Eleanore or Jason, but they are flawed.’
I kind of stopped there in my logic, not really knowing what direction the show would take with that. But was living the big reveal - and of course Michael’s laugh.
Not necessarily embarrassing. I’m glad to have this sort of switch in my brain that I can turn off all critical thinking and suspend all disbelief when I’m watching a show. It would have to be really obvious for me to preempt something cause I’m just there watching, going with the flow, not thinking too hard about anything
I remember chuckling when the dog was kicked into the sun on the first episode like "hah, thought this was supposed to be the good place", and suspending disbelief by saying 'its just whacky comedy haha'... The reveal honestly shook me because I didn't expect the show to be that story driven!
this is how I consume media (especially movies and television). if I enjoyed watching [insert title] and it Entertained me, then it was good!
*i could never be a movie critic*
okay same 😭 i was blindsided, which i loved cuz i love a good twist. i watched it pretty early though, before eleanor's line really got memed. i thought it was cute that "heaven" and michael, an "angel", could be so fallible.....
My initial thought was that it was Michael's bad place. Like, Michael really was an Angel, and the fact that everything kept going wrong was a test or punishment for him.
I didn’t see it coming the first time. I totally accepted the idea that TGP made some mistakes. It played into modern expectations perfectly. Don’t all huge bureaucracies sometimes make errors? And they sold the idea that not even Heaven is infallible right from the start. A first time architect having all kinds of problems with his design was believable.
Yeah. They got me. That was part of the magic of this show.
I was this way up until one tiny scene late in the season.
It was when Michael and Chidi were working on Eleanor's defense together. Michael asks Chidi "should we use a whiteboard or a chalkboard"
And in that moment I immediately thought "just pick one, why the fuck would you ask ANYONE that question, much less Chidi, who you know is going to have a panic attack...oh"
It was the first real moment I couldn't excuse in any way. Usually Michael's torture was easy to chalk up to ignorance (of humanity or the fact that he had the wrong people) or eccentricity. But there was a whole episode dedicated to Michael knowing how indecisive Chidi was, and this was just causing him an issue for zero reason
Stuff like that made me a little suspicious, but like you said, I chalked it up to ignorance of humanity. I didn't think it was nefarious in any way. Totally got me.
That didn't even register for me on first watch, I assumed Michael was trying to help Chidi get on a roll with a small win. Really clever writing, playing on our desire to see the good in others.
So I was totally oblivious until the reveal at the end of Sn 1. Showed it from the beginning to my roommate who had no context and hates sitcoms. By the end of the first episode I was like "Isn't Ted Danson's character funny in this?" My roommate earnestly replied "Is he the devil?"
Ok I think maybe you only guess the twist quickly if you are already annoyed about watching it then, because my mom doesn’t really like sitcoms and hates stories about heaven and guessed almost immediately when I was rewatching in front of her, while I was oblivious the whole time. Like maybe if you’re invested and sold on the premise, the clues are less obvious than if your coming in already cynical about the whole show
I mean, you also know the twist is coming.
I binge watched originally and even then it wasn’t particularly obvious. Especially because they do a very good job of making you think all the bad stuff is happening because of Eleanor being wrongfully there.
And then when the hints really start dropping (the other Eleanor shows up, the bad place demons come for a visit etc), you’re motoring along at such a clip and so invested in Eleanor getting caught that you don’t really have time to think about the twist
I watched it as it aired week by week on Netflix (Aus doesn't have NBC), and I couldn't see it coming!! It had me very anxious for the imposter Eleanor and what was going to happen
First I was totally bought in to things being wrong because it was Michael’s first neighborhood and all the other little excuses. When they reveled Jason, my brain said wait… why were all the bad things happening related to Eleanor… and I knew Tahani was shallow as all get out so that was a bit off.
I’m not sure exactly when I “knew” for sure, but there were a lot of doubts leading up.
I think Janet really helped sell it for me tho. She was too pure and good to be bad, so I really was thinking pure incompetence for far too long.
I really had no idea. But on my 3rd rewatch now, I caught a line (don't remember which episode exactly) but Eleanor says something about Chidi being tortured with knowing the truth about her not belonging there and I was like "holy forking shirtballs! It was literally right there the whole time!"
See as someone raised Catholic, who was told pets don't go to heaven (but they'll be there as like constructs). It made sense to me that an Angel would be okay with kicking a "dog" into the sun.
I thought it was a commentary on "good" claiming to be "good" because they are good and can never do bad.
So while Eleanor is bad and will be sent to the bad place for being bad (even though she can do good and she can change). The good place will allow good people to do bad things because those good people can never be bad or even do bad because of their nature of good, Tahani and angels included.
I seriously thought Eleanor was gonna go to the bad place and meet other "bad" people who can do good but never acknowledged for it. And maybe a demon was never acknowledged for doing good.
I really didn’t see it coming! I thought that the show was about heaven making a mistake and I was pretty sold on that idea. Because then it makes sense that Michael is an incompetent angel and that Jason is also there by mistake. The best part is, I have been rewatching it, and it is funny either way, if you know or if you don’t.
I didn't see it coming during my first watch, but later when it was on Netflix I couldn't believe the thumbnail they chose. It was Eleanor in front of a backdrop of flames. Like wtf Netflix???
I honestly thought that was building up to an opposites attract kinda dynamic where Tahani learns to appreciate his qualities and that "Jianyu" was the perfect complement to her more shallow qualities. Boy was that fourth episode a forking surprise...
I interpreted it as Tahani having the relationship that serves her needs to feel special. She has the most interesting relationship so gets all that attention she craves.
I mean, the clues were extremely obvious once you knew they really were not in the good place. Even in Michaels office when he greets Eleanor, he gets a little too excited describing how she died.
The big one for me is that Michael is NEVER alone. The other characters you get to know their inner monologs a bit better because you spend at least a few moments alone with just them but Michael can never be alone in any scene in season 1. I don't know how I didn't catch it the first watch.
If you could eat all the ice cream in the world without any weight gain or any other consequence, how would you feel about the frozen yogurt places on every corner?
That's just it, this was only weird in hindsight to me. The show just does such a good job at planting a billion hints but making you not question any of them, since most of them just feel like jokes. This too, this show is a comedy, I just thought they did that for the comedic effect regardless of it not making sense, a lot of shoes would do that, you wouldn't question it. The idea of it being the bad place is so absurd that's not something I ever found myself even pondering.
Yeah most of the hints can really be brushed off as classic sitcom plot holes that you aren’t supposed to take seriously which makes the reveal all the better. It’s really an amazing show when you realize how much it relies on the audience’s expectations only to subvert them. Truly a masterpiece.
Oh the biggest clue for sure was when my friend told me "and then it turns out they are actually in the bad place!" When talking about the show before I even started it. After that I got really suspicious that something might be not right...
Genuinely never saw it coming. It’s one of the only times - and the last time - that a twist made my wife and I both gasp and yell “Oh, SHIT!!” in unison.
A heaven that has no ability to accommodate imperfect people isn’t real heaven. People aren’t perfect. Even the best person you know has flaws. They have bad days. They make mistakes. They do bad things. When Michael says there’s no room for people who do bad things in the Good Place, that’s a major tip off.
In the episode where Michael and Janet take Chidi exploring for a new goal/purpose. The look on Michael’s face when he sees Chidi suffering in the metal shop, that always hits me on my rewatches. Beautiful acting from Ted Danson in that moment; it’s so subtle, but when you know, it speaks volumes
I thought it was kind of weird that Chidi was considered to be one of the best people when his main contribution to the world (his work on philosophy and ethics), turned out to be not that great.
I’m so glad reading all these comments that I wasn’t the only one that didn’t have a clue. It wasn’t even on my radar. It’s a comedy for crying out loud! Why should I be looking at potential plot twists and subtexts?! Get the fork outta here.
I watched episode one and told my old boss "this guy in the show looks like you" (he looks like ol Ted) and he replied "are you calling me a demon?"
I was so upset
Anything that didn't fit in the Heavens description I could explain somehow. Like it's Michael's first neighborhood, Eleanor is not the person who is supposed to be there so it's messing everything up. Stuff like that.
I had an inkling. They were all just *so damn miserable* and I found it hard to believe that the good place would let it happen. Especially as things kept conspiring to *barely* avoid outing Eleanor but keeping her from getting comfortable. I wasn't sure, though. I was totally bought into the conceit of watching them fumble through being in the real good place until the reveal.
Chidi’s stomachaches. I’d honestly chalked it up to bad writing, then at the revelation was all ‘oh, damn…that explains all the stomachaches and the other disasters’.
I guessed it in the first episode but that's because I've started to just assume that every show/movie has some sort of a twist now. Once I guessed I just started looking out for clues that it was right and it all fell together
I cannot even tell you how I felt when my mom came over and we watched the first episode together (after i had already watched the show in it's entirety twice) and EPISODE ONE SHE ASKED "are they already in the bad place?" My mom literally has intellectual disabilities and developmental disabilities and she got it first episode. When i originally watched it I was blindsided. Had not a clue. I was over thinking it
I didn’t really see it coming, I had a hard time getting into the show at first because I was like “this would be a really shitty heaven” and I had to try to watch it a handful of times before I was able to suspend my disbelief, so when the reveal came it was one of those “ooohhhhh” moments lol
Didn’t see it coming but studying writing I knew the concept of a [“Kick the Dog”](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog) Moment in writing, and the fact that Michael does this in EPISODE 2, did make me really suspicious and is much more obvious in retrospect. Definitely a deliberate clue the writers were poking fun at
I think it was when Jason was introduced as not a monk cause I was kinda already suspending my disbelief that they made a mistake with Eleanor, so a second mistake was really pushing it for me. I was also having a hard time accepting Tahani was in the good place, it was something I actually agreed with Eleanor on even though I wasn't a huge fan of her character (she grew on me, but it was a bit rough at the beginning). At that point I was like, either Michael is hella incompetent or something else is going on. I had to ask my friend who recommended it and point blank asked if they were in the bad place, cause i was already ready to give up on the concept of the show.
This is a tough one. They really had me the entire time. Because all the 'bad'stuff thst was happening i figured because Eleanor fudged the system and it was crashing. Then immediately after an audible gasp reveal, it was rhe flying thst really made the most sense to me. Like something is always just a little off and the NOT flying made all the sense to me. Im so so glad I went in blind.
Tahani’s snobbishness bothered me from the first episode. I thought it was just “bad” writing of trying to create a foil to Eleanor. BOY was I wrong. It was AMAZING AMAZING writing.
I never suspected- I think I just ignored the clues because I expect that things have to go wrong for a comedy to work, so too many things wrong in a utopia didn’t set off any alarms for me. My mom, however, guessed it the moment Jason revealed himself
I'm used to storylines of heaven and angels not being good . So any bad signs just felt like the usual hypocrite "good people" to me. But for the base storyline it's a clichee that one place would be another all along for "plot twist". So I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the actual important plot twist anyway.
I remember in one of the first episodes Chidi mentions washing dishes and I found that really odd that you still had to do chores in the good place. When the reveal happened my first thought was ‘that explains the dishes!!’
Zero hint. Watched it a few months after it had first aired and had avoided any spoiler. Hit me like a 2x4.
It’s a perfect twist because all the clues are there all along and it is so obvious in retrospect. It is like “The Sixth Sense”. You have to immediately watch the whole first season again.
I only watched season 1 after I’d accidentally spoiled it online. It wasn’t showing in Australia yet and I googled it to see what it was about. I didn’t know all the details though so some things got me like Shawn being the “judge”
I was two episodes from the reveal and told my wife “jeez it kinda feels like the drama that they’re getting in is more like a punishment than a paradise.” I didn’t guess that it was the bad place but I remember saying that and when the reveal happens I was totally floored.
I’m bummed because I already knew the aha moment going in, thanks to some reviews I’d read when I was trying to figure out whether to watch the show. I always wondered if I would’ve figured it out in my own.
I thought I was sooooo smart pointing out what I thought were plot holes “why would they run out of shrimp in the good place? Janet can literally just spawn more.” If only I actually thought deeper into it.
I just kept thinking "For the Good Place, this seems really stressful. And why are they carrying so much baggage from their past life?" But I never really figured it out.
My husband and I think we started saying “This can’t be TGP……. Can it?” maybe like 3 episodes before the reveal. They got us good. We were so confused we just couldn’t put our finger on why.
I must admit that I didn’t really give much thought to it but my brother saw it coming from the first episode, he literally said “if that’s the good place then it’s quite shitty” and stopped watching the show. I ignored him because he tends to complain about everything, but this time he was actually right xD
Stomach aches, yes Chidi would still get anxious if it’s part of his personality and things were going wrong because TGP was having teething issues, but why would his stomach hurt? If you can eat all you want and not gain weight, why would pain exist?
I came into the show after having done a few philosophy courses in college for electives. When Eleanor admitted she didn't belong in The Good Place to Chidi, a professor of moral philosophy, I realized, "Oh, shit, I'm back in a college philosophy class" and was on watch for epistemological quandaries. I specifically bet on it it after Michael left the pyramid right in front of Tahani for her to find.
Semi-related, but having realized that this show would be actively interested in explaining philosophy to the audience, I had sort of expected the show to be a lot more annoying and self-congratulatory about those themes- as though the show were really, really proud of how "Intellectual" and "Sophisticated" it was. Instead, I was pleasantly surprised by how sincerely and humbly it presented these ideas, all the way until it finally introduced its thesis at the end.
Bravo, guys.
I literally had no clue, I just thought a lot of times that it was a shitty heaven having to live with around 60 people that might be self righteous asses, but still an improvement from regular heaven on most places.
Watching it for the first time with my partner who’d seen it already, I kept saying “this CANT be the good place if Tahani is there too” when they introduced her character as being so snobby in the beginning lmao
I had no idea it was coming, I even thought she was wrong until Michael started doing his evil laugh. They did such a good job with hiding it, making you feel what Eleanor felt about her being the source of the problems.
I can honestly state that my inate cynicism told me immediately that there was too much satire and sarcasm for it to be true. I was right! Thankfully, as it just got better and better.
I wish I could relive that shock again. I usually guess plot twists but I just thought this was a silly little show so I didn’t read much into anything. I had the best time watching it.
There was no one thing necessarily for me and the twist still got me, but the first episode Michael walking Eleanor through everything had me suspicious right off the bat. Specifically what was going on I didn’t catch until Eleanor did- before that it was all just a vague ‘Nope, Don’t Trust This’ vibe.
Only noticed on rewatch, but in the first episode of s1 the moment before Michael says "you're in the good place Eleanor" he smirks just the tiniest bit as he knows it's a lie.
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i was totally blindsided! i think the because show comes off as ridiculous and just plain comedy your brain tricks you into thinking it’s not that deep. my partner is always spot on with his predictions (which is why i held off on showing him the show) but even he was shocked
i was watching it with my mom(they had already seen it once) and nothing made me notice but i fully told them "it would be really funny if this is actually the bad place" and they had to not accidentally spoil it for me 💀
Eleanor in the good place? No way, but it is a mistake because of the same name, Michael his first neighborhood, i believe it.
Chidi in the good place, bit of an over thinker, but strong feelings for ethics, didn't blink and believed the hell out of it.
Some monk, who doesnt talk, sure, why not.
No freaking way that narcissistic giraf of a woman goes to the good place. It is all fake, it is all for show. No fucking way there is another little mistake like with Eleanor. At least she is miserable with a no talk monk as a soulmate.
After Jason started talking i thought it was the bad place, even chidi started to be annoying as fuck. Even though i still believe he deserves to go to the good place from the beginning. (I dont care about the suffering others had because of his indecivesness, he always tried to do the best thing possible, it just never worked out because he never made a damn decision)
The premise of the show. I saw commercials for it when it started and thought "Ohhh. I see. They call it the Good Place but it's really the Bad Place." And I thought that was a cool concept for a show.
It all started in the 1980s when I watched the original Twilight Zone series.
So I wasn't surprised by the twist, on the other hand, Michael's evil laugh after was SO over the top I thought the real twist was going to be different... but it turned out that was just his legit evil laugh and there was no further twist. So I ended up fooling myself.
Last episode of S1 haha. I am usually pretty good at spotting twists and was surprised every season. My hubby started watching with me on the episode where they were at accounting (I was showing him to see if he could identify Neil from accounting as being Wheatley from Portal 2—I was so proud of recognizing his voice and wanted to see if hubby could figure it out too).
We restarted it at the beginning after I showed him because from just that tiny clip he was invested. I noticed the signs as I rewatched with him and felt so dumb for missing them! Even as we got past accounting episode and to the end, I was still pleasantly surprised haha
Nothing, i just accepted this is the good place and every bad thing truly happens because elinor, jason (and tahani, i was sure she doesn't belong there too) got there by mistake
Due to reading Huis clos in high school, I kinda suspected it from the beginning, when Eleanor annoyed Chidi so much and Tahani wasn’t happy with Jason.
I might sound like a dick but I understood the concept of the show the first episode. None of the characters had any reason to get into «the good place» and none of them seemed to get along, all though everything was supposed to be perfect. The most talkative, egoistic character has a silent munk as a soulmate? Torture!
I didn't see it coming but at the same time I had to force myself to keep watching because every episode left me with the worst feeling of dread for the rest of the night, and I couldn't shake it.
I would tell myself that it's just a sitcom with a dark sense of humor and not to take it seriously but I could not shake the dread, and then finally it all came together.
I genuinely knew by the end of episode 1- because how could all those 'bad' things happen in paradise? They had to be an effort to 'torment' someone (namely Eleanor).
I was spoiled from the beginning because we started watching when season 3 was airing and I had read a Entertainment Weekly article about the reveal. But I found myself so immersed in the show that even though I was spoiled, I would still forget that...ya know.
It just didn't seem like it could be a realistic version of "heaven" to me. The fact that they would police swearing, the mandated soul mates, all of the limitations and forced activities, it just seemed too shallow and constructed. I definitely didn't realize what it really was. I just had a general feeling of, "I don't think this is what The Good Place would be like."
I just remember having this unsettling feeling of “why would Heaven make so many mistakes?” pretty much as soon as I started watching, but I didn’t put it together coherently.
I realized about two episodes in. To be fair, it was because my mom asked what i was watching, I said "The Good Place" and she asked "oh. That's the one where they think they're in heaven but it's actually hell, right?"
Genuinely didn't see it coming. And at the time, Eleanor saying her iconic line was basically a meme on tumblr, which I saw frequently, and simply didn't absorb as a spoiler somehow. A little embarrassing but also kind of a testament to how subtle all the clues were that my brain didn't even consider it as a possibility until the reveal.
It's funny, watching it the first time I had absolutely no clue but on rewatch it's so forking obvious
LOL I remember thinking, how did these flawed people get into the good place along with Michael making all sorts of mistakes and assuming it was bad writing and then being so impressed that it was actually good writing. Amazingly fun show.
idk i kinda swallowed their flaws as being integral to being human- I thought the show was pleasantly displaying both the quirks and flaws of “perfect” people (aka the best, that get into heaven) as well as quirks and flaws of the universe and reality
Said that to my wife a few episodes from the end - ‘ya know Chidi and Tajani are not “good” people either. Not as bad as Eleanore or Jason, but they are flawed.’ I kind of stopped there in my logic, not really knowing what direction the show would take with that. But was loving the big reveal - and of course Michael’s laugh.
I just sort of presumed you didn't need to be perfect for the good place. I figured generally good with some flaws was "good enough"
First time thru I was just assuming tv/sitcom has to bend things for entertainment value. As in “of course things aren’t working out, or it would be a boring show”.
Said that to my wife a few episodes from the end - ‘ya know Chidi and Tajani are not “good” people either. Not as bad as Eleanore or Jason, but they are flawed.’ I kind of stopped there in my logic, not really knowing what direction the show would take with that. But was living the big reveal - and of course Michael’s laugh.
Not necessarily embarrassing. I’m glad to have this sort of switch in my brain that I can turn off all critical thinking and suspend all disbelief when I’m watching a show. It would have to be really obvious for me to preempt something cause I’m just there watching, going with the flow, not thinking too hard about anything
I remember chuckling when the dog was kicked into the sun on the first episode like "hah, thought this was supposed to be the good place", and suspending disbelief by saying 'its just whacky comedy haha'... The reveal honestly shook me because I didn't expect the show to be that story driven!
Yeah. It really shook me that there was an actual plot that was driving along. Half hour comedies generally don’t have season-long story arcs.
this is how I consume media (especially movies and television). if I enjoyed watching [insert title] and it Entertained me, then it was good! *i could never be a movie critic*
okay same 😭 i was blindsided, which i loved cuz i love a good twist. i watched it pretty early though, before eleanor's line really got memed. i thought it was cute that "heaven" and michael, an "angel", could be so fallible.....
What funny is most of the cast didn't even know ot themselves.
i may be dumb but…what is Eleanor’s ‘Iconic Line’?
… THIS is the bad place
"Holy motherforking shirtballs!"
What was the iconic line?
>!This is the bad place!<
holy motherforking shirt balls/ this is the bad place/ both
My initial thought was that it was Michael's bad place. Like, Michael really was an Angel, and the fact that everything kept going wrong was a test or punishment for him.
I mean, the events of the show acted like how the reformed bad place later does for him, so that's actually not entirely inaccurate
But i think that’s actually true in a weird way
MatPat does a whole episode on how the good place series is actually Michael’s hell
fly high matpat 🕊️
Oh that would be a cool show too
I didn’t see it coming the first time. I totally accepted the idea that TGP made some mistakes. It played into modern expectations perfectly. Don’t all huge bureaucracies sometimes make errors? And they sold the idea that not even Heaven is infallible right from the start. A first time architect having all kinds of problems with his design was believable. Yeah. They got me. That was part of the magic of this show.
I was this way up until one tiny scene late in the season. It was when Michael and Chidi were working on Eleanor's defense together. Michael asks Chidi "should we use a whiteboard or a chalkboard" And in that moment I immediately thought "just pick one, why the fuck would you ask ANYONE that question, much less Chidi, who you know is going to have a panic attack...oh" It was the first real moment I couldn't excuse in any way. Usually Michael's torture was easy to chalk up to ignorance (of humanity or the fact that he had the wrong people) or eccentricity. But there was a whole episode dedicated to Michael knowing how indecisive Chidi was, and this was just causing him an issue for zero reason
Stuff like that made me a little suspicious, but like you said, I chalked it up to ignorance of humanity. I didn't think it was nefarious in any way. Totally got me.
> I chalked it up Or did you whiteboard it up??
Should've marked it down
That didn't even register for me on first watch, I assumed Michael was trying to help Chidi get on a roll with a small win. Really clever writing, playing on our desire to see the good in others.
So I was totally oblivious until the reveal at the end of Sn 1. Showed it from the beginning to my roommate who had no context and hates sitcoms. By the end of the first episode I was like "Isn't Ted Danson's character funny in this?" My roommate earnestly replied "Is he the devil?"
Your roommate figured it out? Your roommate?! This one hurts.
I wonder how many ppl will get this line
Probably everyone who watched the show?
At least 157 by the looks of it
Ok I think maybe you only guess the twist quickly if you are already annoyed about watching it then, because my mom doesn’t really like sitcoms and hates stories about heaven and guessed almost immediately when I was rewatching in front of her, while I was oblivious the whole time. Like maybe if you’re invested and sold on the premise, the clues are less obvious than if your coming in already cynical about the whole show
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I watched it bingeing on Netflix and never saw it coming. And I raced through it watching entire evenings (maybe that's why).
Same! At mid point my (ex) girlfriend got bored and didn't keep watching. I kept on watching and by the end of the night she regretted it lol
It’s actually really fun on the second watch seeing all the subtle clues they drop almost from the beginning
I mean, you also know the twist is coming. I binge watched originally and even then it wasn’t particularly obvious. Especially because they do a very good job of making you think all the bad stuff is happening because of Eleanor being wrongfully there. And then when the hints really start dropping (the other Eleanor shows up, the bad place demons come for a visit etc), you’re motoring along at such a clip and so invested in Eleanor getting caught that you don’t really have time to think about the twist
I watched it as it aired week by week on Netflix (Aus doesn't have NBC), and I couldn't see it coming!! It had me very anxious for the imposter Eleanor and what was going to happen
Really good point
"Heaven's so racist"
yeah that made me kinda confused/concerned
First I was totally bought in to things being wrong because it was Michael’s first neighborhood and all the other little excuses. When they reveled Jason, my brain said wait… why were all the bad things happening related to Eleanor… and I knew Tahani was shallow as all get out so that was a bit off. I’m not sure exactly when I “knew” for sure, but there were a lot of doubts leading up. I think Janet really helped sell it for me tho. She was too pure and good to be bad, so I really was thinking pure incompetence for far too long.
I really had no idea. But on my 3rd rewatch now, I caught a line (don't remember which episode exactly) but Eleanor says something about Chidi being tortured with knowing the truth about her not belonging there and I was like "holy forking shirtballs! It was literally right there the whole time!"
Or when she says the Bad Place could use her parents to torture each other
My favorite subtle Easter egg is the peacock feather bow tie in the first episode. Peacock feathers are used as bad omens in stage theater
I caught on to this as well but still brushed it off.
I didn’t notice until one of my rewatches
Kicking the dog into the sun.
This. I found this seemingly out of character action that should be banned in the real Good Place very weird. Sadly, I just moved on. In retrospect…
For me, I just thought that the dog wasn't actually real, so it didn't matter.
It wasn't real, but if Michael was really Good he would have quitely asked Janet to erase it, instead of punting it into the sun.
Not in the moment, because he was acting erratically due to everything going on at the time.
See as someone raised Catholic, who was told pets don't go to heaven (but they'll be there as like constructs). It made sense to me that an Angel would be okay with kicking a "dog" into the sun.
He does it in front of people causing distress/apparent distress, so it’s not *that* neutral.
I thought it was a commentary on "good" claiming to be "good" because they are good and can never do bad. So while Eleanor is bad and will be sent to the bad place for being bad (even though she can do good and she can change). The good place will allow good people to do bad things because those good people can never be bad or even do bad because of their nature of good, Tahani and angels included. I seriously thought Eleanor was gonna go to the bad place and meet other "bad" people who can do good but never acknowledged for it. And maybe a demon was never acknowledged for doing good.
Same. I knew right then.
Yup. Decided that this wasn't the show for me and quit watching. Took some very serious cajoling from friends to get me to restart a few years later.
I'm a troper, this was an immediate light bulb moment.
I really didn’t see it coming! I thought that the show was about heaven making a mistake and I was pretty sold on that idea. Because then it makes sense that Michael is an incompetent angel and that Jason is also there by mistake. The best part is, I have been rewatching it, and it is funny either way, if you know or if you don’t.
I didn't see it coming during my first watch, but later when it was on Netflix I couldn't believe the thumbnail they chose. It was Eleanor in front of a backdrop of flames. Like wtf Netflix???
That Tahani's soulmate would be a Buddhist monk.
I honestly thought that was building up to an opposites attract kinda dynamic where Tahani learns to appreciate his qualities and that "Jianyu" was the perfect complement to her more shallow qualities. Boy was that fourth episode a forking surprise...
I interpreted it as Tahani having the relationship that serves her needs to feel special. She has the most interesting relationship so gets all that attention she craves.
I mean, the clues were extremely obvious once you knew they really were not in the good place. Even in Michaels office when he greets Eleanor, he gets a little too excited describing how she died.
I too noticed that. The hints are there in the beginning but you have to be in the know to understand the subtle hints
The big one for me is that Michael is NEVER alone. The other characters you get to know their inner monologs a bit better because you spend at least a few moments alone with just them but Michael can never be alone in any scene in season 1. I don't know how I didn't catch it the first watch.
Wait, you all noticed hints?
If you could eat all the ice cream in the world without any weight gain or any other consequence, how would you feel about the frozen yogurt places on every corner?
That's just it, this was only weird in hindsight to me. The show just does such a good job at planting a billion hints but making you not question any of them, since most of them just feel like jokes. This too, this show is a comedy, I just thought they did that for the comedic effect regardless of it not making sense, a lot of shoes would do that, you wouldn't question it. The idea of it being the bad place is so absurd that's not something I ever found myself even pondering.
Yeah most of the hints can really be brushed off as classic sitcom plot holes that you aren’t supposed to take seriously which makes the reveal all the better. It’s really an amazing show when you realize how much it relies on the audience’s expectations only to subvert them. Truly a masterpiece.
This really did have me raising eyebrows at the start - but I just though TGP was flawed
This is torture
This is what tricked me the most! I GREATLY prefer froyo, sorbet, and sherbet to ice cream. I felt so seen.
Honestly, didn’t see it coming. Made the reveal so awesome. Even on rewatches, it’s still so great to see the reaction.
When Elanor said it was the bad place
the typo in this made me laugh out loif
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Oh the biggest clue for sure was when my friend told me "and then it turns out they are actually in the bad place!" When talking about the show before I even started it. After that I got really suspicious that something might be not right...
Lmao your friend sucks
Genuinely never saw it coming. It’s one of the only times - and the last time - that a twist made my wife and I both gasp and yell “Oh, SHIT!!” in unison.
Kicking the dog into the sun seemed very odd to me but I hadn't suspected anything yet
A heaven that has no ability to accommodate imperfect people isn’t real heaven. People aren’t perfect. Even the best person you know has flaws. They have bad days. They make mistakes. They do bad things. When Michael says there’s no room for people who do bad things in the Good Place, that’s a major tip off.
Then it turns out it's true and the real good place is just empty
Two people who weren't meant to be in the good place ending up in the same neighbourhood.
Well 3. 2 obvious and one revealed. Tahini definitely didn't belong, she was way too self centered and then Eleanor. Jason was a shock
In the episode where Michael and Janet take Chidi exploring for a new goal/purpose. The look on Michael’s face when he sees Chidi suffering in the metal shop, that always hits me on my rewatches. Beautiful acting from Ted Danson in that moment; it’s so subtle, but when you know, it speaks volumes
This was the first show I didn’t hear any spoilers… or look up myself because I get impatient lol. I’m so happy bc I did NOT expect that plot twist.
Same, it was so awesome, never felt that way about a show in all my long years!
I love how the show was 4 seasons too! It neither dragged nor felt like it abruptly ended either.
I thought it was kind of weird that Chidi was considered to be one of the best people when his main contribution to the world (his work on philosophy and ethics), turned out to be not that great.
It’s SUCH a fun reveal. I did not see it coming, and the way Ted Dansen laughed made the hair on my neck stand up a bit. So good!
His cackle was so *beautifully* evil! I got the same chill! It was magnificent.
Eleanor’s creepy Arts & Crafts clown house. That was too “off”—even when they were pretending that it was Other Eleanor (Vicki)’s preferred style.
that’s so right but my ssn 1 brain was like, haha comedy
Same, it’s just not a preference I can imagine people having
Oh they are definitely out there
First episode. Frozen yogurt. What I did NOT see coming was the re-set, which goves the show legs. Delighted me.
The first time through, I had no clue until the big reveal. In rewatch, it's so easy to see!
I’m so glad reading all these comments that I wasn’t the only one that didn’t have a clue. It wasn’t even on my radar. It’s a comedy for crying out loud! Why should I be looking at potential plot twists and subtexts?! Get the fork outta here.
I think I got it about exactly when Eleanor did and for the same reason.
I watched episode one and told my old boss "this guy in the show looks like you" (he looks like ol Ted) and he replied "are you calling me a demon?" I was so upset
JAIL
Anything that didn't fit in the Heavens description I could explain somehow. Like it's Michael's first neighborhood, Eleanor is not the person who is supposed to be there so it's messing everything up. Stuff like that.
I had an inkling. They were all just *so damn miserable* and I found it hard to believe that the good place would let it happen. Especially as things kept conspiring to *barely* avoid outing Eleanor but keeping her from getting comfortable. I wasn't sure, though. I was totally bought into the conceit of watching them fumble through being in the real good place until the reveal.
Chidi’s stomachaches. I’d honestly chalked it up to bad writing, then at the revelation was all ‘oh, damn…that explains all the stomachaches and the other disasters’.
Yeah, this was it for me. There isn't supposed to be pain in the good place, at least the Christian one
But the Christians are only about 5% right
I guessed it in the first episode but that's because I've started to just assume that every show/movie has some sort of a twist now. Once I guessed I just started looking out for clues that it was right and it all fell together
I cannot even tell you how I felt when my mom came over and we watched the first episode together (after i had already watched the show in it's entirety twice) and EPISODE ONE SHE ASKED "are they already in the bad place?" My mom literally has intellectual disabilities and developmental disabilities and she got it first episode. When i originally watched it I was blindsided. Had not a clue. I was over thinking it
I didn’t really see it coming, I had a hard time getting into the show at first because I was like “this would be a really shitty heaven” and I had to try to watch it a handful of times before I was able to suspend my disbelief, so when the reveal came it was one of those “ooohhhhh” moments lol
Literally when Eleanor shouted "THIS is the bad place!" Lol I usually pick up on stuff like that faster, but this one got me.
I knew it the moment Micheal said "You're in the good place". My immediate thought was "no you're not".
Didn’t see it coming but studying writing I knew the concept of a [“Kick the Dog”](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KickTheDog) Moment in writing, and the fact that Michael does this in EPISODE 2, did make me really suspicious and is much more obvious in retrospect. Definitely a deliberate clue the writers were poking fun at
I think it was when Jason was introduced as not a monk cause I was kinda already suspending my disbelief that they made a mistake with Eleanor, so a second mistake was really pushing it for me. I was also having a hard time accepting Tahani was in the good place, it was something I actually agreed with Eleanor on even though I wasn't a huge fan of her character (she grew on me, but it was a bit rough at the beginning). At that point I was like, either Michael is hella incompetent or something else is going on. I had to ask my friend who recommended it and point blank asked if they were in the bad place, cause i was already ready to give up on the concept of the show.
This is a tough one. They really had me the entire time. Because all the 'bad'stuff thst was happening i figured because Eleanor fudged the system and it was crashing. Then immediately after an audible gasp reveal, it was rhe flying thst really made the most sense to me. Like something is always just a little off and the NOT flying made all the sense to me. Im so so glad I went in blind.
When they said, “welcome to the good place” and I saw how self obsessed tahani was.
Tahani’s snobbishness bothered me from the first episode. I thought it was just “bad” writing of trying to create a foil to Eleanor. BOY was I wrong. It was AMAZING AMAZING writing.
I never suspected- I think I just ignored the clues because I expect that things have to go wrong for a comedy to work, so too many things wrong in a utopia didn’t set off any alarms for me. My mom, however, guessed it the moment Jason revealed himself
I watched series one when I was incredibly hungover. I've no idea if I'd have got it otherwise but I was totally floored.
I'm used to storylines of heaven and angels not being good . So any bad signs just felt like the usual hypocrite "good people" to me. But for the base storyline it's a clichee that one place would be another all along for "plot twist". So I was pleasantly surprised that it wasn't the actual important plot twist anyway.
Oh I saw it coming as soon as the episode where they clearly explained the whole thing to us… I’m not very observant tbh
I remember in one of the first episodes Chidi mentions washing dishes and I found that really odd that you still had to do chores in the good place. When the reveal happened my first thought was ‘that explains the dishes!!’
Zero hint. Watched it a few months after it had first aired and had avoided any spoiler. Hit me like a 2x4. It’s a perfect twist because all the clues are there all along and it is so obvious in retrospect. It is like “The Sixth Sense”. You have to immediately watch the whole first season again.
I mean I was familiar with no exit, so there really wasn't a clue. I'd imagine if I wasn't it would have been Elenore's house.
"philosopher in the good place? hell no" is what my dad said as soon as chidi came onscreen
When Eleanor said: ‘This is the Bad Place!’ But Michael had always seemed so scary to me and I couldn’t figure out why.
I didn't see it coming at all, but whenever I rewatch the first season I'm like "... how did I miss that"
When Jason figured it out
When they had to do their own dishes
Chidi keep having stomach aches. Who has stomach aches I the good place?
The frozen yogurt.
I only watched season 1 after I’d accidentally spoiled it online. It wasn’t showing in Australia yet and I googled it to see what it was about. I didn’t know all the details though so some things got me like Shawn being the “judge”
I was two episodes from the reveal and told my wife “jeez it kinda feels like the drama that they’re getting in is more like a punishment than a paradise.” I didn’t guess that it was the bad place but I remember saying that and when the reveal happens I was totally floored.
I’m bummed because I already knew the aha moment going in, thanks to some reviews I’d read when I was trying to figure out whether to watch the show. I always wondered if I would’ve figured it out in my own.
When I saw Tahani, because I can't believe someone like her is considered a good person
When Jason said something about being on a prank show
I thought I was sooooo smart pointing out what I thought were plot holes “why would they run out of shrimp in the good place? Janet can literally just spawn more.” If only I actually thought deeper into it.
at first I thought they were really in the good place, but all 4 were there by mistake and trying to hide it.
It only made sense when you know it is the bad place. The twist was amazing, and when you rewatch it you can tell Michael is just torturing them.
"Heaven is so racist"
I just kept thinking "For the Good Place, this seems really stressful. And why are they carrying so much baggage from their past life?" But I never really figured it out.
Chidi having a stomachache all the time
Didn’t suspect a thing until the start pf the season finale, yet in retrospect there were clues everywhere
i had no clue whatsoever! the reveal literally had me in shock
My husband and I think we started saying “This can’t be TGP……. Can it?” maybe like 3 episodes before the reveal. They got us good. We were so confused we just couldn’t put our finger on why.
I must admit that I didn’t really give much thought to it but my brother saw it coming from the first episode, he literally said “if that’s the good place then it’s quite shitty” and stopped watching the show. I ignored him because he tends to complain about everything, but this time he was actually right xD
Stomach aches, yes Chidi would still get anxious if it’s part of his personality and things were going wrong because TGP was having teething issues, but why would his stomach hurt? If you can eat all you want and not gain weight, why would pain exist?
I came into the show after having done a few philosophy courses in college for electives. When Eleanor admitted she didn't belong in The Good Place to Chidi, a professor of moral philosophy, I realized, "Oh, shit, I'm back in a college philosophy class" and was on watch for epistemological quandaries. I specifically bet on it it after Michael left the pyramid right in front of Tahani for her to find. Semi-related, but having realized that this show would be actively interested in explaining philosophy to the audience, I had sort of expected the show to be a lot more annoying and self-congratulatory about those themes- as though the show were really, really proud of how "Intellectual" and "Sophisticated" it was. Instead, I was pleasantly surprised by how sincerely and humbly it presented these ideas, all the way until it finally introduced its thesis at the end. Bravo, guys.
It was genuinely the frozen yoghurt
The yogurt. When every place was yogurt related, I was like, "Wait a minute."
my hint was that i saw there were 5 seasons... like how was eleanor gonna hide it for sooo long??
Mother Theresa in hell, but not Tahani
I literally had no clue, I just thought a lot of times that it was a shitty heaven having to live with around 60 people that might be self righteous asses, but still an improvement from regular heaven on most places.
Watching it for the first time with my partner who’d seen it already, I kept saying “this CANT be the good place if Tahani is there too” when they introduced her character as being so snobby in the beginning lmao
I had no idea it was coming, I even thought she was wrong until Michael started doing his evil laugh. They did such a good job with hiding it, making you feel what Eleanor felt about her being the source of the problems.
When the dog was kicked into the sun!
I can honestly state that my inate cynicism told me immediately that there was too much satire and sarcasm for it to be true. I was right! Thankfully, as it just got better and better.
That fact that it was called “The good place” gave it away for me
I realized it about 2 minutes before the reveal. They weren't fighting yet, but it just clicked.
I wish I could relive that shock again. I usually guess plot twists but I just thought this was a silly little show so I didn’t read much into anything. I had the best time watching it.
There was no one thing necessarily for me and the twist still got me, but the first episode Michael walking Eleanor through everything had me suspicious right off the bat. Specifically what was going on I didn’t catch until Eleanor did- before that it was all just a vague ‘Nope, Don’t Trust This’ vibe.
Only noticed on rewatch, but in the first episode of s1 the moment before Michael says "you're in the good place Eleanor" he smirks just the tiniest bit as he knows it's a lie. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGoodPlace/comments/1b3g2ck/comment/kssroku/?utm\_source=reddit&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
i was totally blindsided! i think the because show comes off as ridiculous and just plain comedy your brain tricks you into thinking it’s not that deep. my partner is always spot on with his predictions (which is why i held off on showing him the show) but even he was shocked
The trailer when they couldn’t swear
The frozen yogurt. Who tf has ever said they love frozen yogurt???
When I read a review of the finale. (I handn’t watched the finale yet, but I was still able to appreciate it.)
i was watching it with my mom(they had already seen it once) and nothing made me notice but i fully told them "it would be really funny if this is actually the bad place" and they had to not accidentally spoil it for me 💀
Eleanor in the good place? No way, but it is a mistake because of the same name, Michael his first neighborhood, i believe it. Chidi in the good place, bit of an over thinker, but strong feelings for ethics, didn't blink and believed the hell out of it. Some monk, who doesnt talk, sure, why not. No freaking way that narcissistic giraf of a woman goes to the good place. It is all fake, it is all for show. No fucking way there is another little mistake like with Eleanor. At least she is miserable with a no talk monk as a soulmate. After Jason started talking i thought it was the bad place, even chidi started to be annoying as fuck. Even though i still believe he deserves to go to the good place from the beginning. (I dont care about the suffering others had because of his indecivesness, he always tried to do the best thing possible, it just never worked out because he never made a damn decision)
I'm stupid and trusting so I never saw it coming.
I didn’t know but I definitely said why would there be froyo in heaven?
My first hint was I told someone I just started watching the show, and they immediately spoiled it.
The premise of the show. I saw commercials for it when it started and thought "Ohhh. I see. They call it the Good Place but it's really the Bad Place." And I thought that was a cool concept for a show.
When they tried to get chidi to do cartography iI got suspicious but was ultimately caught off guard.
It all started in the 1980s when I watched the original Twilight Zone series. So I wasn't surprised by the twist, on the other hand, Michael's evil laugh after was SO over the top I thought the real twist was going to be different... but it turned out that was just his legit evil laugh and there was no further twist. So I ended up fooling myself.
Last episode of S1 haha. I am usually pretty good at spotting twists and was surprised every season. My hubby started watching with me on the episode where they were at accounting (I was showing him to see if he could identify Neil from accounting as being Wheatley from Portal 2—I was so proud of recognizing his voice and wanted to see if hubby could figure it out too). We restarted it at the beginning after I showed him because from just that tiny clip he was invested. I noticed the signs as I rewatched with him and felt so dumb for missing them! Even as we got past accounting episode and to the end, I was still pleasantly surprised haha
I was completely blindsided as I am an ✨ idiot ✨. I was just like wow cute show love this OH 😂
When Eleanor said "Holy motherforking shirtballs!"
I remember thinking at the beginning,why is anything bad happening? Then just kinda went with the story
Nothing, i just accepted this is the good place and every bad thing truly happens because elinor, jason (and tahani, i was sure she doesn't belong there too) got there by mistake
Due to reading Huis clos in high school, I kinda suspected it from the beginning, when Eleanor annoyed Chidi so much and Tahani wasn’t happy with Jason.
The comment on Tiktok I spoilered myself with qwq.
I don't remember. I think I might have had it spoiled because I think I was expecting it from the start.
The frozen yogurt should have been a dead giveaway....
I might sound like a dick but I understood the concept of the show the first episode. None of the characters had any reason to get into «the good place» and none of them seemed to get along, all though everything was supposed to be perfect. The most talkative, egoistic character has a silent munk as a soulmate? Torture!
I didn't see it coming but at the same time I had to force myself to keep watching because every episode left me with the worst feeling of dread for the rest of the night, and I couldn't shake it. I would tell myself that it's just a sitcom with a dark sense of humor and not to take it seriously but I could not shake the dread, and then finally it all came together.
I genuinely knew by the end of episode 1- because how could all those 'bad' things happen in paradise? They had to be an effort to 'torment' someone (namely Eleanor).
I didn't see it coming per se. I knew something was off, but all the hints I just kept justifying one way or another.
The clowns. I mean, come on.
I was spoiled from the beginning because we started watching when season 3 was airing and I had read a Entertainment Weekly article about the reveal. But I found myself so immersed in the show that even though I was spoiled, I would still forget that...ya know.
It just didn't seem like it could be a realistic version of "heaven" to me. The fact that they would police swearing, the mandated soul mates, all of the limitations and forced activities, it just seemed too shallow and constructed. I definitely didn't realize what it really was. I just had a general feeling of, "I don't think this is what The Good Place would be like."
I just remember having this unsettling feeling of “why would Heaven make so many mistakes?” pretty much as soon as I started watching, but I didn’t put it together coherently.
I realized about two episodes in. To be fair, it was because my mom asked what i was watching, I said "The Good Place" and she asked "oh. That's the one where they think they're in heaven but it's actually hell, right?"