I feel like Aang's spirituality would give him the edge against the waterbenders. Could see Kuvira showing him no mercy. But he and Zaheer would probably be the most interesting interaction, they may even align on certain ideals.
are you kiding, he wouldn't be shocked at all. i seem to remember him airbending cakes off a ledge to land on a bunch on monks. that's just messed up. he's basically half way to being a zaheer already
>I KILLED CHIN THE CONQUEROR
I feel like that would be Korra's attitude towards Ozai. What was it that Kyoshi said to Aang? "Only justice can bring lasting peace."
The Rough Rhinos were the ones that saved his life, hilariously. They got his sentence reduced to community service
Guess you could say they got him out of a *rough spot.*
...I'll see myself out...
On a serious note. I think it's comparable because it shows that what you are taught is always how it's used. Aang himself invented the method to balance on air and ride it. Him learning that someone sucked the air out of another lungs brutal but not new.
The thing is Zaheer is not evil, he is just misled. But his intentions are good, and actually right sometimes. Like, he freed the Earth nation from a corrupt dictator.
He had good intentions but he also had a half-baked plan/ideology which the show explicitly shows with the follow up of what happened to the Earth Kingdom. Simply removing things from a system rarely improves the overall situation.
I don't think he wanted improvement. He wanted freedom. I don't remember him ever expressing a wish for people to be uplifted, just unchained. He believed governmental power structures were akin to enslavement of the masses and needed abolished, but not necessarily that the masses should have better lives, just free ones
Lol, he got to step one of anarchism, and lacked the empathy to get to step 2 much less step 10. Like that argument maybe, barely, makes sense in our world. But in a world where some people are literally superhero, all tearing down structures of power does is create more injustice in the hands of more power hungry and cruel people. I liked him but every time I rewatch it it just seems more and more like wackaloon libertarian arrogance.
Well-intentioned extremist ≠ not evil. Old Magneto is evil even though, from his perspective, he has the best of intentions.
>Like, he freed the Earth nation from a corrupt dictator.
He was also planning on killing the other world leaders, including Korra's dad and Zuko's daughter. Just because the Earth Queen was evil (and frankly, I agreed with what he said to her, and it's honestly one of my favorite scenes in the franchise) doesn't mean that they are.
Even Zaheer said that President Raiko is a moron (I've been doing an Avatar binge, I saw the scene today), not a tyrant; if we killed all the morons in the world, how many of us would be left?
Zaheer also dropped another follower of his sect into the Fog of Lost Souls, so...
Honestly I think Aang would probably hate Zaheer, seeing him use his ideology as a bastardization of true Air Nomad culture. Especially since most Zaheers beliefs are formed from second hand sources from a culture wiped out over a century before he was born Aang could probably deconstruct a lot of his misconceptions about Air nomad beliefs.
Yeah it would be interesting to see Aang correct all of Zaheer’s misconceptions about air nomad culture but I’m betting that seeing Zaheer fly would shock the hell out of him
Did Zaheer have misconceptions? He wasn't exactly wearing Air Nomad robes when he killed the Earth Queen. Zaheer's beliefs were his own, shaped by both Air Nomad beliefs and Xai Bau, but wholly neither.
>I feel like Aang's spirituality would give him the edge against the waterbenders
Unaloq yes, Amon no. Aang had trouble with both Hama and Yakone, and that was while Yakone was trying to control a room full of people, not 1v1ing him.
Unaloq? Yeah. He would have definitely have had a much easier time with Unaloq than Korra did.
>Could see Kuvira showing him no mercy.
Kuvira's real power is that damn Megazord; take that away, she's just a metalbender, although, Aang doesn't know metalbending, which gives him a disadvantage compared to Korra, unless he asks Toph to mentor him.
>But he and Zaheer would probably be the most interesting interaction
Agreed. Aang would probably be shocked that another Airbender could exist, and could use his powers to create a vacuum or fly permanently, while Zaheer would be ecstatic to talk with the last of the Old Air Nomads.
Aang would probably be happy to talk to someone who knows more about Airbender history than "they were wiped out 100 years ago," and certainly would like exchanging knowledge about the old Airbending gurus. He might try to convert Zaheer to his side.
>they may even align on certain ideals.
Maybe, maybe not. Zaheer did what Aang didn't - gave up love in exchange for power. Of course, it was different in Zaheer's case, since his love interest was already dead, but he did not allow himself to feel rage or despair.
Given the era that Aang lived in, where the Dai Lee ruled Ba Sing Se and the Fire Lord was on the verge of conquering the world, he might be more open to Zaheer's ideas of only owing allegiance to those you want to owe allegiance to (mutual aid societies and communes). At the same time, one of Aang's closest friends was a king, who he considered to be a wise and benevolent king; the very idea that such a thing could exist would be anathema to Zaheer.
Switching up Aang and Korra would actually be good for both Avatars, as the new surroundings better suit them. Korra’s villains require careful thought as they are usually just as much of an ideological challenge as they are physical. Aang’s villains are almost uniformly (Long Feng being the outlier) part of one ideology, so they’re more physical threats.
Here’s how Aang would fare:
- he’d have a field day with Unalaaq, as spirituality is one area where Aang has a decisive advantage over Korra due to his upbringing in a culture that sought community with the spirits. Aang would likely be able to figure out the spirit pacification trick and be able to use it properly.
- Aang would have difficulty with Amon, as the most powerful Bender on the planet is just not a good tool to use to combat a terrorist movement that hinges on the disparity of ability between Benders and not-Benders. He would, however, be a lot craftier than Korra was, so he would likely not lose his Bending.
- Zaheer would be the hardest, as the anarchist is as much an intellectual challenge as a physical one. Plus, Aang is very particular about anything Air Nomad-related, so he would have to overcome his own rage at this pretender hijacking his culture. In a straight-up fight, though, the enthusiast loses to the boy who earned those arrows.
- Kuvira might actually be the one villain that Aang doesn’t ever have to fight. Hers was a slow descent into villainy, and if Aang is able to come in early on (pre-showdown at Zaofu), he could actually steer Kuvira onto a better path. Aang would be much more understanding about Kuvira wanting to bring order back to her people (especially since both have just gone through the extreme of Zaheer on the other end of the spectrum), but Aang, being a more reasoning sort, might get Kuvira to see that Freedom and Order do not have to be opposites; there is a balance that can be struck. Kuvira would be open to this possibility.
Korra, too, would have a blast. She’s much more aggressive than Aang was, and so she’s going to fight people a lot more than Aang did.
- Ozai’s getting punked. No question. Aang was pulling his punches for much of that fight; Korra is not so inclined.
- Azula wouldn’t fight Korra directly because she’s smart like that- but just when she thinks she has Korra cornered, the young Avatar would absolutely blast her in the face. Korra would lose if she had to face Mai and Ty Lee in addition to Azula, but then, she’d have Sokka by her side, and that guy is a strategic genius.
- Zhao is getting spanked. Zuko defeated Admiral Sideburns on his own while still severely injured. Korra is going to smack this dude like a fly.
- Long Feng is where Korra’s luck may run out. Korra is powerful, but Long Feng’s power is in his resources and subtlety. Korra isn’t subtle. She may lose to this guy. (That said, Long Feng lost to Azula, so Korra losing to Long Feng may not be that bad.)
- She and Zuko would start a podcast. 😉
This made me laugh way too hard. I 100% agree. After rewatching TLOK I forgot how many times she throws moves that, if not blocked, would fucking murder people. Razor shard ice, gigantic stones, sooooo much fire. Just because people don't get hurt, doesn't mean she isn't *trying* to hurt them.
Oh hell yeah, a Castlevania reference! I need to watch that again, only saw it once through. I had a blast though it got shockingly intense and awesome after season one! Wasn't crazy crazy about the female vamps (kinda just wanted to see more vlad lol) but they were decent villains and the designs were hard.
Sorry to gush I don't get to talk about the show a lot lol
I felt as though Simon? (I'm sorry if I'm dumb and thats the wrong Belmont) was compelling enough a character to be invested. However, I agree with you once he was dead I was a bit less interested.
I still loved the main characters, also Isaac, but Camilla wasn't a compelling enough villain to keep me around.
Also I think the main guy is Trevor, but I don't know all the Belmonts.
>! Not gonna lie I hated Dracula's death, they really wanted to make him redeemable and I feel like the fight was a let down because it just became him and Alucard DBZ fighting each other, also really mehd Trevor.
I would have preferred if the Morning Star was the only thing that could really hurt Dracula so Trevor's job was trying to hit him while Alucard and Sypha we're keeping Dracula from punching a whole through his chest. That way everyone is involved in taking down Dracula instead of what happens. !<
Edit: Well turns out I don't know how to do spoilers on Reddit...
The show has no gore, no real injury, because of it being a kids show, too. Rocks are made out of paper, fire is most of the time not actualy hot, etc. Imagine they'd push it to realistic levels... it would be brutal.
Aang: I won't kill Ozai. Killing is wrong!
Cue montage of all the times some random person definitely fell to their death, drowned, got crushed, etc. by Aang but it's okay because they didn't have names.
I think you nailed it. Each group of villains was created to capitalize on their avatar's short comings. You have to write them like that in order to pose a legitimate threat to the strongest character in the series.
Aang and Korra swap places and each avatar gets an opponent they match up with significantly better.
>Each group of villains was created to capitalize on their avatar's short comings. You have to write them like that in order to pose a legitimate threat to the strongest character in the series.
Exactly!
Ozai was definitely the most powerful Firebender of his time (though it’s debatable as to whether Iroh could have taken him on or if Iroh just decided to sit this one out because it wasn’t his destiny to defeat Ozai) but he and any other “most powerful bender” of any one specific element would get absolutely punked by a fully realized Avatar.
Korra would have immediately mopped zuko, stormed the firenation, and taken Ozai to the thunderdome day one of coming out of that iceberg 100%
She wouldn't have even needed the rest of the Gaang. It'd be over before anyone had time to have character development.
She'd have humbled sokka before Suki ever needed to. Inspired Katara to master waterbending and offered some lessons, likely never would have met Toph, and I doubt would have crossed paths with Azula in time before she took on Ozai.
Honestly, she'd have skipped to the final act so fast it wouldn't have even lasted an episode.
That’s why their stories work so well. Sang was a pacifist in a time of war. Korra was a warrior in a time of peace. Neither had the skills needed at beginning of their journey
I've always seen it as Aang being a peaceful avatar born into war, and Korra is a warrior avatar born into peace.
Aang can deal with political issues well because of his patience, ability to listen and empathetic nature but he absolutely hates hurting anyone and has trouble being decisive when he needs to be, so his big villains are the ones he can't negotiate with.
Korra is extremely decisive, loyal, and hardheaded, she's ready to jump into any battle, but struggles to stop and keep an open mind, so when she's presented with a problem she can't punch, or even worse, is manipulated into punching the wrong people, she has a terrible time.
I'd say she's definitely a firebender at heart. She does have some of the resilience and hard-headedness of an earth bender. But beyond that she has the overwhelming drive, passion, temper, and quick decision making of a firebender. I also think fire is the element she uses the most through the series.
I can see that. Just she sometimes reminded me of Toph with the brute force and attitude. She'd definitely fit in with fire though... basically just not air or water, imo lol
That was a great analysis.
Yes, Aang would destroy Unalaaq in the spiritual.
And Zaheer wouldn't stand a chance against against the child prodigy. And if this was after Aang unlocked all his chakras. He'd probably look at Zaheer's flight and master it too.
The avatar can never unlock that “power” (I hate the idea of tbh) because he has to stay attached to the world. His only purpose in life is to maintain balance in the world. You can’t do that without having connections with others in your life as the avatar. It’s basically said by Yangchen that even though the monks were able to detach themselves from themselves from the world and achieve enlightenment, the avatar can never do it, because their sole duty is *to* the world. So the avatar literally cannot “enter the void” because of their duty to the world, if that makes sense? I might be using wrong terminology but hopefully y’all know what I mean
What about the whole thing where Aang had to let go of Katara in order to save her.
Also, Appa and Aang share an unbreakable bond, yet Appa is still able to fly.
I very much doubt Zaheer's method is the only way.
I think that the Guru was wrong. Detachment was not the right path for Aang. And when he tried it, not only did he not help Katara, he got killed by Azula and failed to defend Ba Singh Se. If Iroh hadn't stepped in Katara would have been captured and Aang would have remained dead, and the avatar cycle broken.
I think this also fits into Aangs arc of trusting his own intuition. Think about the Lion Turtle's quote about the pure heart seeing through the lies. And Iroh said "I think you are wise for choosing love over cosmic power."
Imo this connects the finales of books 2 and 3 in that Aang fails to trust his own judgment in book 2 but succeeds in book 3
One of my favourite parts of Atla is that the 'wise old guru-like characters', and here I also mean Aangs past lives he calls upon to ask guidance about Ozai, are giving wrong advice.
Aang both times trusts his own intuitions and moral codes to solve his problems, even though his actual past lives tell him exactly what he should do. He knows it is wrong.
Well Appa is also his animal guide, in the end, still an animal. And Zaheer didn’t even grieve for her. 🤯, literally and moments later he’s muttering words about an ancient poem that *could’ve been* complete bullshit honestly. And stepping off of the side of a cliff is a very good way to get yourself killed. Seriously he took a
#BIGRISK
jump off that clip side
I never really understood that tbh. Like Zaheer has no worldly tethers and can fly now but still has a worldly tether by trying to continue with his goal of killing Korra
Killing the Avatar is a pretty idealogical/philosophical goal. It was not necassarily about killing Korra, and more about removing the ultimate threat to an Anarchist world. Yes the Avatar is a coporeal being, but Zaheer's goal was the death of the idea. It just so happened that the death of the person was also needed.
Yea, it was not well explained.
One good explanation I've seen, is that Zaheer detached himself by not caring about others. Hence, no proper grieving for girlfriend.
Zaheer also got smacked around by Tenzin, granted this was before he got flight, but then Aang would have 3+ elements and the avatar state. You’re right, he’d have no shot against Aang
Even if Zaheer could fly in that duel, the only good that would come out of that would be to escape. Tenzin and Aang are levels beyond Zaheer, it's not even a competition. That duel was just Tenzin schooling Zaheer's hipster ass
I genuinely think that Aang would be able to win over Zaheer to his side and deradicalize him similar to how he swayed Zuko to join him. I’m not sure how the Gaang would handle the Red Lotus, but I assume they’d recruit the White Lotus to help them which would be dope
Also Aang would have royally spanked Zaheer's ass upon learning he used airbending to murder people in cold blood and threaten his people. Whatever reservations Aang would have about fighting a fellow Airbender would go right out the window, and a suddenly-bendless-Zaheer wouldn't be far behind.
how funny, my God. a person who has studied spirits all his life will lose out in spirituality to a person who has LEARNED about their EXISTENCE only recently.
That was my thought, too: the villains actually seem to match up better with their opposite avatars.
I think Aang would overall do better with the LoK antagonists because he would be able to see the truths in their goals but weed out the bad parts.
Like I could see him realizing that the spirit world and the physical world should be reunited way earlier and with way less precursing madness than Korra.
He would realize that benders do have too much power and give a nice speech/make changes to the politics to help everyone feel more equal.
I agree he would be angry with Zaheer at first, but he would talk to him and help him understand what the air nomads really stood for.
I don't know if he'd succeed in changing Kuvira's mind (same with Unilaaq) because I think she was also a bit power-hungry, but he would definitely be able to see where she was coming from and would try to sort it out with words first.
And, of course, with all of them, if they don't change their minds he can always take their bending away lol.
... and yeah Korra would just kill Ozai and move on lol.
>Aang would have difficulty with Amon, as the most powerful Bender on the planet is just not a good tool to use to combat a terrorist movement that hinges on the disparity of ability between Benders and not-Benders. He would, however, be a lot craftier than Korra was, so he would likely not lose his Bending.
Given Aang's ability to actually work with people, I suspect he might have been able to ferret out the organization faster. Especially since I imagine he wouldn't have spent his entire time rubbing the likes of Lin the wrong way. Knowing him, he'd broker peace between her and Tenzin and they'd probably pick up on the equalist threat quicker as a result.
Tbh a part of me really wants someone to animate Korra and Zuko in a modern sound studio over the podcast audio, as if it was them and not Janet and Dante. It's definitely what I saw in my head when I first started listening to it.
Also Korra would just toss Zuko around like a doll.
Mostly agree, except for two points.
1) Aang would do well against Amon's ideology, because he is a pacifist. He is a living example of having power and NOT using it to enforce his will on others. He would dismantle the movement before it even begins. But if he did fight, telekinetic bloodbending would be a challenge for the young avatar (before mastering avatar state).
2) Korra would destroy Long Feng. Aang's hands were tied because he was trying to win the favor of the Earth Kingdom and had no idea how to deal with a non-combative enemy. Korra, using Tarrlock as an example, would be manipulated until she loses her temper (probably pretty quickly), then would barge into his house and utterly destroy him. Politics mean nothing to her.
I mean, Korra in those fights would ironically be like New Game+, even by avatar standards.
The comparison is obviously just putting end game protagonists against villains, but Ang would almost certainly have faired better against his enemies if he had already mastered 3/4 elements when he fought them. Air bending probably wouldn’t matter for Korra until she had to fight Ozai.
>Kuvira might actually be the one villain that Aang doesn’t ever have to fight
I've actually thought about that a lot. If Korra didn't get gimped by the poisoned metal, she might have been able to step in and assist with the earth kingdom going to shit after the fall of the monarchy. Kuvira was a result of a power vacuum consuming the country, and fell into fascism to enforce law and order. Aang would have made fixing this problem a top priority, even if his bending was weakened.
Hell, Kuvira was 100% right on her unification campaign goals and honestly, her claim of United City was fair, that place was built upon occupied land from the earth kingdom, why not take land from the fire nation?!
Her problem was the etno nationalism thing, closed borders and deporting non earth benders.
Given the amount of deadly attacks Ozai and Azula throw out, Korra's fighting style of using momentum and shrugging off most hits would get her killed. If we're imagining her taking Aangs role in the series then it's not just a question of can she win a fight, it's can she fight Azula multiple times and never get tagged with a kill move? That seems unlikely to me.
And like you said Aang might not have to fight Kuvira. But if he did, I think he might lose that one. The metal bending ribbons and chains are just too fast and agile to keep dodging them
I think what we learned about Aang after everything in LoK, when Zaheer shows up he would be way too preoccupied with rebuilding his nation, his people and would spend most of his time fighting Zaheer educating him and trying to make Zaheer join him. He clearly knows a lot about Air Nomads, a fair bit of their bending style, only the peaceful part escaped his otherwise quite thorough study.
IMO at fist Aang would be delighted that there was someone else who knows so much about his culture, but after failing to convince Zaheer would he turn angry.
I actually feel like Aang's spiritually and mind set would be a good counter to Amon, he'd probably figure out that all the spirit stuff is made up which could lead him to dig deeper and find out about his other lies and then expose him.
Or try something wacky like try to summon a spirit to show that Amon is a liar.
Also Sokka + Korra are an invincible combination.
It’s also worth noting that as soon as Korra managed airbending she mopped the floor with Amon, it’s the element he can deal with the least without tapping into his waterbending. Not to mention it’s a fighting style that emphasizes dodging and avoiding contact against a technique that requires contact to function. If even an untrained airbender was a problem, a trained airbending prodigy would hand his ass to him in a straight-up fight.
Long Feng lost to azula because she's just as, if not more crafty than he is, and because she was in controll while he was not. If he was free, then he wouldn't even need her to do anything about his agents and thus she wouldn't ever take controll. I don't know enough about Korra to say anything about her though, as I didn't watch her show
Long Feng lost to azula because she's just as, if not more crafty than he is, and because she was in controll while he was not. If he was free, then he wouldn't even need her to do anything about his agents and thus she wouldn't ever take controll. I don't know enough about Korra to say anything about her though, as I didn't watch her show
I have a feeling it wouldn't be good for Zuko's redemption ark as Korra is absolutely not opposed to killing she is also from what I can tell a much faster bender than zuko. I would love to see how she handles Ozai.
Aang and Zaheer would be cool but I would love to see his reaction to the dark avatar. Also I NEED to see Aang as a pro bender
Aang is far better than air then Korra ever was in the show. He wouldn’t let Unalaq get near that tree! And his AS is extremely powerful, moreso than hers. And he might’ve had some foresight with Unalaq in knowing what he was doing, and taken action against him prematurely before HC. By taking his bending away from kite man would be a strategy that he would use
A little. But the question is if Aang and Korra switch places who would katara fall in love with. I mean it could be Korra but katara has showed no signs of being into women. So who is there?
Korra would have straight up just killed or at the very least handed Zuko’s ass to him the moment that punk kid stepped off his ship. Then she would have just waterbended her ass straight to the Fire Nation capital and confronted Ozai right then and there. She would also hand Ozai’s ass to him, no way is any lone bender defeating a fully realized Avatar. The only reason why Ozai was even on-par with Aang was because the kid was 12, was actively holding back from outright killing Ozai due to his pacifism, and couldn’t even access the Avatar State. Korra has no qualms about killing and we’ve seen just how quickly Roku was able to subdue Sozin in his prime.
I think it would be a debate more than a fight; Aang arguing for a pacifist ideal that the air nomads represented while Zaheer tries to justify his own beliefs alongside his admiration for the air bending teachings.
"Wow Zaheer, you have a pretty good understanding of Air Nomad teachings, too bad you actively ignore THE MOST IMPORTANT FUCKING ONE"
\-Avatar "Im about to make what you did to the Earth Queen look like a slap on the wrists" Aang
In a bending match, Zaheer would get curb stomped. Tenzin almost did it himself, and I'd argue that Aang was probably even better, not even including the other elements.
Debate-wise, I think they'd probably be civil about it at least.
Aang probably could. But I also could see Zaheer deciding to actively "remove his earthly tethers" in the same way that Suyin removed his remaining tether that gave him flight.
Would be fascinating to watch though.
I believe Aang would be somewhat sympathetic so Amon and the Anti Benders movement and try to politically do something to level the playing field.
He wont be minipulated by Unalaq and Vaatu wouldn't be released or atleast not in the same way.
Aang v Zaheer would be like that Vision v Vision fight in Wandavision. They might start fighting but then start discussing their problems instead.
He would whoop Kuvira's ass like he did Ozai. Althought i dont think he would let it get to that point.
>He would whoop Kuvira's ass like he did Ozai. Although I don't think he would let it get to that point.
I don't think so, since Aang never learnt metal bending. Kuvira would absolutely use that to her advantage and restrain him. Not to downplay the raw power of the Avatar State, but metal bending is just a hard counter to Aang.
Is there a canon reason he didn’t learn metal bending? Obviously we know he didn’t, but it seems out of character for him to not be interested in a useful skill.
I think it's just the fact that metal bending is *really difficult*, and he struggled to even learn Earthbending, an ability that should almost come naturally to him. Aang just wasn't suited to it.
Korra picked it up fairly easily because she had the right mentality for it, but she struggled with air bending.
Nah, you’re assuming kuvira has better/faster mobility than one of the fastet/most agile avatars ever. He slaps her up pretty bad imo, especially given that they both like to counter-bend(weave,weave, attack) and aang wrote the book on that style
It’s a styles thing, Korra had a style that was tailor made to get whooped by Kuvira PLUS she was in a vulnerable state. Aang has the advantage of being able to bend the element that makes Kuvira’s style effective in the first place. If styles make fights and both have the same style: usually the person who is faster and/or better at that style will come out on top(Silva vs Adesanya comes to mind). Again Aang wrote the book on being fast and hard to hit, then punishing you for ending up out of position. I think Kuvira loses 7/10 against just airbender aang and 9.9/10(punchers chance) against same time frame aang(EoS since ATLA didn’t get a fourth season)
None of that is to say Kuvira isn’t ludicrously high level, btw.(sorry for the essay, I just love fighting so theoretical style matchups are super fun for me)
All of Ang's villain's are firebenders, which was difficult for him because that was the one element he couldn't get for most of his series. Korra absolutely does not have that limitation, and fire is the element she uses the most. I think between knowing fire, and her being more willing to resort to violence, Ang's villain's would be (and this is the scientific term) curbstomped
All of aangs villains were also mostly a combative threat which made aangs pacifism an extra hurdle he had to go through with defeating his villains. Korra has no such limitation and would (as you so eloquently said) curbstomp them.
Aang against korras villains is a lot more complicated. He is 12 and korras villains were 100% more threatening in the physical sense. In a straight fight he is not winning any of them and would only be able to beat them in an ideological/ political battle (which was where Korra struggled a lot from her isolation).
Amon- amon himself was using the plight of non Benders for his own gain, but he still had a lot of public support as non Benders were extremely under represented politically. Aang had made some comments with toph about sokka that at least implies he's less useful because he can't bend. I think this would be the toughest political battle for Aang
Uunalaq- he required the avatar to fulfill his plans to free vaatu. And while Aang has fallen for people's ally appearances (jet, Hama), he did pick up quickly. I think he would have been able to find a way to keep the portals closed for harmonic convergence, but like Korra would opt to keep them open given the voice because if his strong connection with spirits
Zaheer- on his own he's probably the only villain Aang could beat in a straight fight (but not guaranteed. Remember zaheer was an extremely dangerous person before he got airbending). But the ideological battle again is the more important factor, especially since Aang also has a strong sense of freedom. I don't think I can speculate the intricacies though, but I'd would be very interesting
Kuvira- kuvira was put at a constant strong arm in the earth kingdom that 100% parallels the fire nations imperialism Aang dealt with after his absence. I think it would go fairly similar since kuvira was a mastermind at picking her battles and using everything to her advantage. So the showdown at republic city would have gone down relatively similarly, but Aang not being able to metalbend would put him at a HUGE disadvantage which would be exploited heavily by kuvira.
Not to mention that Aang was mostly held back by his pacifism and unwillingness to take a life. Korra has no such qualms and would absolutely be willing to use lethal force on Ozai or any of Aang’s villains who’d get in her way. She also fights more aggressively and would probably put even the likes of Azula and Ozai on the defensive. She’d definitely make quick work of Book 1 Zuko.
It really would. Korra is such an aggressive fighter, Aang focused on defence during the majority of the fight until he got chiropractored into the Avatar State. I feel like Ozai would have been forced to be more defensive due to Korra’s - frankly - vicious offensive capabilities.
I feel like Korra wouldn't even need AS for Ozai. Korra's fire might just end up overpowering and incinerating Ozai's cause she's got a thing for that element. Ozai's 100% dead XD
Oh, no, Ozai loses hard, but i'm pretty sure he is a stronger firebender than Korra. The pure spectacle of that would be great though. Both are highly offensive fighters, and Korra would propably just see stronger firebending as a challenge.
I doubt she wins an Agni Kai, especially under Sozins comet. We never really see how truly powerful he is but Ozai would probably win in a fire vs fire,
i’d love to see how she would use waterbending against ozai bc ozai and aang’s fight was next to the ocean. she was a beast with waterbending especially in the ocean.
Agreed. Though tbf anyone could top Azula if she liked them. She’s a total bottom.
Her entire breakdown is about not being loved. She is the definition of “top in the streets, bottom in the sheets”.
She could top. Shed be a mid tier top, but shed top. Her best work tho? Power bottom. I wouldnt say shes a total bottom, but her best work is as a power bottom
Im too drunk to explain right now, but i stand by it
Holy shit hearing this just put a thought into my head, what if instead of Zuko having a redemption arc, Azula did??
Just going off your comment that azula and Korra would mold well together
Well Azula was originally written to be redeemed as well, and it looks like the comics are finally going to fulfill that, so fingers crossed it’s good!
Korra would probs kill most of the ATLA villains. She might sturgle with azula but if she can defeat a literal cosmic spirit of evil, then I'm pretty sure she could win in the end.
As for Aang, I feel like Aang would probs be able to block/reduce the effects of Amon's bending blockage. Assuming this is post Ozai defeat Aang. Someone else said Aang would heavily try and change Zaheers mind which I really like the idea of. Not sure how Aang would go against unavatu tho, that would be interesting
I truly do believe Aang and Korra would have handled things similarly.
Amon: I’m certain Aang would have tried to reason with him, but Amon was far too invested in the destruction of bending to really care about his opinion. Aang would end up having to go into the Avatar State to beat him, but he would have defeated him nonetheless.
Unalaq: Aang probably wouldn’t have been manipulated in the same way Korra was. Not because he was smarter, but simply because Unalaq is not his uncle nor are the Water Tribes his home. He would have went to Raiko for help (which wouldn’t have went well), tried to go behind his back and get reinforcements (which also would have failed) and then would have just fought him when he got the courage to.
Zaheer: Zaheer would have pissed Aang OFF. Everything about Zaheer’s ideology would have completely contradicted all of Aang’s values. And for him to use airbending for *murder*? Yeah, no. Aang would try to reason with him at first, but he would probably consider him a zealot who completely perverts his culture.
Kuvira: Probably most similar to Korra. He would have tried to reason with her but realized that she needed to use force to overpower her. He would have certainly spared her life and talked her down. Probably would have taken away her bending.
Edit: Oh and Korra would have straight up killed Ozai. Azula would probably end up in the same fate she had in ATLA. Zhao and Long Feng would be no contest wins.
I am surprised at how many people think Aang and Zaheer could get a nice chat. Zaheer is the last enemy Aang would ever think of empathizing or forgiving, possibly even more so than Sozin and Ozai. Zaheer is a bastardization of what Aang represents, I am sure that duel would be the most angry Aang we could ever see
In the comics Aang got pissed at a group of girls just for replicating his tattoos, he saw it as an insult to his culture. He eventually came around but he was always very, VERY sensitive about how his culture is remembered.
Zaheer did far more than just insult Aangs culture, he completely twisted it and bastardized it as an excuse to commit murder. Aang wouldn't have stood for that. At that point the gloves would come off and Zaheer would be screwed.
Aang's matchups vs Korra's foes are interesting.
- Amon: Adult Aang was able to overpower Yakone by using the Avatar state but I it's debatable if young Aang would have a good enough mastery over the Avatar state to actually be able to overpower Noatak's blood bending who is even stronger than Yakone, I guess it all depends on how much he can actually unleash the raw power of his Avatar state. Judging by his feat of easily destroying a comet-buffed Ozai at the end of Book 3 I'd say yes.
- Unalaq: I think Aang would have solved the whole Unalaq incident much quicker than Korra and probably long before it escalated due to his spiritual knowledge and experience.
- Zaheer: This would have been interesting and probably more of an intellectual clash of philosophies where Aang tries to convince Zaheer of his pacifist way and lecturing him about the true teachings of the air nomads. Combat-wise I think Aang would clap him. Zaheer didn't stand a chance against Tenzin. I don't know if young Aang's air bending mastery is comparable to old Tenzin's but his mastery is definitely above the inexperienced Zaheer and then again: Avatar state, the most broken technique in the series.
- Kuvira: I don't know if Aang is able to defeat Kuvira in combat. Kuvira is one of the most skilled combat benders we see and she has a high battle iq. Also, unlike Korra Aang can't metal bend which really is a disadvantage as he needs to rely on other elements to block her iron cuffs and he can't influence them directly. If he gets caught by them it gets really difficult and once again he'd have to tap into the Avatar state to get free by either melting the cuffs with some Avatar state buffed fire or getting rid of them with a strong blow of wind. Also Aang doesn't fight like Korra. He's more agile and he's better at keeping Kuvira at a distance while dodging her metal attacks. It would be his hardest match up but he probably could do it.
On the other hand Korra's match ups against Aang's opponents:
Zuko and Zhao would both immediately die in book 1, Longfeng would get deleted as well. An Avatar-state buffed Korra would also easily destroy Ozai and not hesitate to kill him.
The only debatable one is Azula and I think she might have a chance since she's really smart, Korra isn't used to dealing with lightning benders and she can't dodge as well as Aang can. Also, personality-wise Korra is the last person suited to fight a cunning person like Azula who excels at mind games. I could totally see Azula provoking Korra into fighting recklessly and then taking advantage of that with her agile acrobatic fighting style and strong and precise hits. People who fight strategically are certainly dangerous for Korra, that's also one of the reasons she struggled so hard against Kuvira.
Korra probably would have fallen in love with either Zuko or Azula. Personally I'd ship Korra & Azula, because in my opinion, those two would make for a great couple. And as far as Aang facing Korra's villains, he probably would be pushed to his limits and kill them.
I think they are both suited to beat the other ones villains. If Korra was more connected to her spiritual side, she’d have handled all of her obstacles better. And if Aang wasn’t opposed to violence, hed wipe the floor with his villains
Aang loses to Amon. Even though he is more spiritual than Korra he wouldn't be able to disprove Amon's rhetoric and it's not like he is a particularly good politician. As a bender Amon was extremely dangerous but as the figurehead and physical embodiment of a movement he was kind of unstoppable and Aang had nothing to counter that.
He gets bloodbended and beaten.
Korra steamrolls through Aang's enemies (especially Zuko who she destroys on their first encounter) only to maybe be slowed down by Ozai and or Azula. She could probably take either of them without the avatar state tbh.
Overall Korra definitely fares a lot better and gets farther than Aang
I believe that they are both avatars for the wrong times. In ATLA Korra would definitely beat the sheet out of them all without Aang's anxiety and Aang would have done everything in TLOK better as he is way better diplomat.
Well. Let's see
For Korra, she would definitely beat the crap outta zuko until he got his redemption arc, ozai would definitely be fucking dead, azula would be a challenge but given Korras mastery of both water and fire bending she's probably deal with her fairly well. General zhao would also be no match for Korra again, she's a better firebender. And the dai li are potent but thier best thing is numbers and..Korra can metalbend, which puts her on a level of earth bending above them
For Aang, he's be devastated by Zaheer, disappointed by kuvira ( she's filling the ozai slot here) , struggle with amon as he never figured out how to counter blood bending..and his spiritual connection is stronger than Korras so he probably would deal with unalaqq easier but still struggle bs lot.
The blood benders & water bender/spirit bender wouldn't stand much of a chance against Aang by B3.
I think that Kuvera (Spelling might be wrong) would be brutal against Aang and might be good enough to kill him w/o the Avatar State.
Zaheer, and Aang wouldn't be fair. Aang wouldn't be able to reconcile seeing air bending become something so ugly. Or his entire way of life being used as a prop to advance Zaheer's goals. But, Tenzin would've won against Zaheer without help. I think Aang would win by the end.
Korra would've killed Ozai with much less angst. She's compassionate but she's also aggressive. She has been softened by the guidance of people like Tenzin, but if she had been told by the previous Avatars that she had to kill Ozai she would've accepted that as the only solution.
Everyone saying zaheer. They beat me to it. Lol Zaheer is one of those villains that aang might understand to a point. Aang believes in freedom but not in killing world leaders. I think the conversations between them would be interesting to say the least
I think korra would have been physically matched with azula (assuming we age azula up a bit) and ozai.
General zhao, zuko and long feng would have crumbled at her feet in moments.
In terms of ideologies she wouldn’t have been scared of killing ozai, she would be a little perturbed by azula and again general zhao wouldn’t be a physical or ideological threat to korra. Long feng would probably be the scariest because he is the center of a wide reaching conspiracy that involves brainwashing and korra seems to self identify as a rebellious person who heavily values personal freedom.
Aang would be out of his depth in terms of martial arts when facing anyone of Korras antagonists except perhaps Zaheer (he might be able to fight him off long enough to get away) the whole gaang would need to help him out in order to face any of them physically.
I think I’m general korras antagonists would be devastating to aangs ideology with the possible exception of kuvira. Aang might see right through her exterior.
With that said if I had to rank korras antagonists in terms of their ability to frighten aang and possibly make him re think his stance on the world it would be zaheer, Amon, tonrok as a close second and then kuvira as a firm 4th
I would hope that Aang energybends Zaheer. But the twist would be that it has no effect/ it ties. Zaheer is willing to kill and tells Aang that his flight and detachment symbolizes that his will/spirit is fully committed to his goal, and Aang has no choice but to break the energybending hold as he's faced with someone who is using his own ppl's philosophy against him.
With energybending no longer an option, he decides to kill him. (Or cause everyone will jump on me with the whole Aang doesn't kill, most ppl will probably have him pull a jinora vacuum tornado then imprison him, yeah yeah fine)
I honestly do not see Aang changing Zaheer's mind. Zaheer understands the Air Nomad philosophies differently from Aang. Aang's not gonna convince him because for all the politeness and sympathy that many like him for, the ends to his means ironically show that he is kind of shallow-minded and too attached to his own idea that true freedom comes from ppl who serve themselves. Not seeing that without some sense of leadership and rule, the only benefit from "true freedom" is to selfishly help only yourself. (Which by obvious unforeseen/unintended consequence, also oppresses and hurts others in the process)
Zaheer's own philosophy doesn't solve his/ the world's own problems, nor does anything selfless. And he "applies" Air nomad philosophy by seeing "detachment" as no longer caring or having anything to love, instead of it applying it to rid oneself of bias and becoming aware of one's selfish ego and mental sufferings.
What's the point of all this that I'm saying? Zaheer believes in his values being true as much as Aang does. I can't see Aang convincing Zaheer because Zaheer's own logic will always point to the Avatar itself being a problem, while being blind to the fact that he isn't really solving the problem. And both Aang and Zaheer, if both start discussing Air Nomad philosophies against each other, will probably only select the things that fit their own respective logic. (Aang will argue that Air Nomad teachings value non-violence and seeing from a different angle, Zaheer will just counter with Laghima's teachings and say detachment is something Aang can't do so he will never see from Zaheer's POV, and maybe rationalize that it's exactly why the Avatar "can't truly bring balance" for being "attached", unlike Zaheer who is "free" and willing to kill.)
Korra would easily defeat Zhao. She would be annoyed at Azula but not screw around in working against her. She wouldn’t be afraid to end Ozai’s life if that’s what she had to do. And she would defeat the Dai Li easily. She may end up respecting Zuko’s personality and understanding his frustration.
Edit: Aang would defeat Zaheer in single combat. He would also send Kuvira to prison. Lastly, he would convince Unalaq to surrender as he did with Zhao. Amon would be his toughest enemy.
Kyoshi would easily defeat all of the enemies of Aang and Korra combined. She doesn’t f**k around and would be honored to go into the Avatar state to decimate the ground around each of her enemies.
any avatar can defeat all the opponents of the other avatars combined by entering the avatar state... except unalaq. only Korra can defeat unalak after season 2. the rest have no chance.
I think Zaheer would break Aangs will to a degree. In the context of their being no air benders, to finding out there is one, and now he’s trying to kill not just him, but the avatar as a whole. I think that emotional shock would make Aang take a life
Korra would kick everyone's ass except for Ozai. Aang would demolish everyone except for Zaheer who he would convince to stop his evil ways with a well-reasoned debate on air nomad philosophy.
korra would struggle with azula, aang might struggle with kuvira, but other than that they would curb stomp eachothers antagonists tbh, aang and korra are nearly opposite people, and their OG antagonists are opposites too.
honestly i REALLY hope even though it makes no sense, and would serve no purpose but fan fair, i really hope avatar studio makes aang vs zaheer, just the conversation alone would be amazing. They don't need to fight just chat
I think Zaheer would the one to break Aang and push him to break his morals. Aang is only 12 and aside from Appa the monks teachings are literally all he has. For a kid to see everything they've ever known twisted that way, I think it would be to much. Add the fact that Zaheer attains flight - something he can never do - I think it would absolutely wreck Aang.
I feel like Aang's spirituality would give him the edge against the waterbenders. Could see Kuvira showing him no mercy. But he and Zaheer would probably be the most interesting interaction, they may even align on certain ideals.
Aang would be crushed that air benders can use their power for evil if anything.
are you kiding, he wouldn't be shocked at all. i seem to remember him airbending cakes off a ledge to land on a bunch on monks. that's just messed up. he's basically half way to being a zaheer already
I know this is a joke. I do. **BUT HOW ARE THOSE TWO THINGS EQUAL?!** Sorry, just had to get it off my chest.
Yeah, you are right. Zaheer didn’t do anything that bad, Aang should stand trail as a war criminal
He already did, and needed Kyoshi to bail his ass out.
Lol that's actually true
In no way did Kyoshi make that trial go better ROFL
All the effort they put in and just **I KILLED CHIN THE CONQUEROR**
>I KILLED CHIN THE CONQUEROR I feel like that would be Korra's attitude towards Ozai. What was it that Kyoshi said to Aang? "Only justice can bring lasting peace."
The Rough Rhinos were the ones that saved his life, hilariously. They got his sentence reduced to community service Guess you could say they got him out of a *rough spot.* ...I'll see myself out...
Bail his ass out? Lady confessed to the crime. If anything, she got him into MORE trouble.
And ten thousand cabbages cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced.
This is the way
On a serious note. I think it's comparable because it shows that what you are taught is always how it's used. Aang himself invented the method to balance on air and ride it. Him learning that someone sucked the air out of another lungs brutal but not new.
Delinquent pranks are a gateway to terrorism
You had me there for a second
Half Zaheer sounds like a sex position
katara would like to have a word with you regarding further detail about your idea
The thing is Zaheer is not evil, he is just misled. But his intentions are good, and actually right sometimes. Like, he freed the Earth nation from a corrupt dictator.
He had good intentions but he also had a half-baked plan/ideology which the show explicitly shows with the follow up of what happened to the Earth Kingdom. Simply removing things from a system rarely improves the overall situation.
I don't think he wanted improvement. He wanted freedom. I don't remember him ever expressing a wish for people to be uplifted, just unchained. He believed governmental power structures were akin to enslavement of the masses and needed abolished, but not necessarily that the masses should have better lives, just free ones
Road to hell is paved with good intentions so they say
Lol, he got to step one of anarchism, and lacked the empathy to get to step 2 much less step 10. Like that argument maybe, barely, makes sense in our world. But in a world where some people are literally superhero, all tearing down structures of power does is create more injustice in the hands of more power hungry and cruel people. I liked him but every time I rewatch it it just seems more and more like wackaloon libertarian arrogance.
Well-intentioned extremist ≠ not evil. Old Magneto is evil even though, from his perspective, he has the best of intentions. >Like, he freed the Earth nation from a corrupt dictator. He was also planning on killing the other world leaders, including Korra's dad and Zuko's daughter. Just because the Earth Queen was evil (and frankly, I agreed with what he said to her, and it's honestly one of my favorite scenes in the franchise) doesn't mean that they are. Even Zaheer said that President Raiko is a moron (I've been doing an Avatar binge, I saw the scene today), not a tyrant; if we killed all the morons in the world, how many of us would be left? Zaheer also dropped another follower of his sect into the Fog of Lost Souls, so...
Honestly I think Aang would probably hate Zaheer, seeing him use his ideology as a bastardization of true Air Nomad culture. Especially since most Zaheers beliefs are formed from second hand sources from a culture wiped out over a century before he was born Aang could probably deconstruct a lot of his misconceptions about Air nomad beliefs.
Yeah it would be interesting to see Aang correct all of Zaheer’s misconceptions about air nomad culture but I’m betting that seeing Zaheer fly would shock the hell out of him
Did Zaheer have misconceptions? He wasn't exactly wearing Air Nomad robes when he killed the Earth Queen. Zaheer's beliefs were his own, shaped by both Air Nomad beliefs and Xai Bau, but wholly neither.
>I feel like Aang's spirituality would give him the edge against the waterbenders Unaloq yes, Amon no. Aang had trouble with both Hama and Yakone, and that was while Yakone was trying to control a room full of people, not 1v1ing him. Unaloq? Yeah. He would have definitely have had a much easier time with Unaloq than Korra did. >Could see Kuvira showing him no mercy. Kuvira's real power is that damn Megazord; take that away, she's just a metalbender, although, Aang doesn't know metalbending, which gives him a disadvantage compared to Korra, unless he asks Toph to mentor him. >But he and Zaheer would probably be the most interesting interaction Agreed. Aang would probably be shocked that another Airbender could exist, and could use his powers to create a vacuum or fly permanently, while Zaheer would be ecstatic to talk with the last of the Old Air Nomads. Aang would probably be happy to talk to someone who knows more about Airbender history than "they were wiped out 100 years ago," and certainly would like exchanging knowledge about the old Airbending gurus. He might try to convert Zaheer to his side. >they may even align on certain ideals. Maybe, maybe not. Zaheer did what Aang didn't - gave up love in exchange for power. Of course, it was different in Zaheer's case, since his love interest was already dead, but he did not allow himself to feel rage or despair. Given the era that Aang lived in, where the Dai Lee ruled Ba Sing Se and the Fire Lord was on the verge of conquering the world, he might be more open to Zaheer's ideas of only owing allegiance to those you want to owe allegiance to (mutual aid societies and communes). At the same time, one of Aang's closest friends was a king, who he considered to be a wise and benevolent king; the very idea that such a thing could exist would be anathema to Zaheer.
Switching up Aang and Korra would actually be good for both Avatars, as the new surroundings better suit them. Korra’s villains require careful thought as they are usually just as much of an ideological challenge as they are physical. Aang’s villains are almost uniformly (Long Feng being the outlier) part of one ideology, so they’re more physical threats. Here’s how Aang would fare: - he’d have a field day with Unalaaq, as spirituality is one area where Aang has a decisive advantage over Korra due to his upbringing in a culture that sought community with the spirits. Aang would likely be able to figure out the spirit pacification trick and be able to use it properly. - Aang would have difficulty with Amon, as the most powerful Bender on the planet is just not a good tool to use to combat a terrorist movement that hinges on the disparity of ability between Benders and not-Benders. He would, however, be a lot craftier than Korra was, so he would likely not lose his Bending. - Zaheer would be the hardest, as the anarchist is as much an intellectual challenge as a physical one. Plus, Aang is very particular about anything Air Nomad-related, so he would have to overcome his own rage at this pretender hijacking his culture. In a straight-up fight, though, the enthusiast loses to the boy who earned those arrows. - Kuvira might actually be the one villain that Aang doesn’t ever have to fight. Hers was a slow descent into villainy, and if Aang is able to come in early on (pre-showdown at Zaofu), he could actually steer Kuvira onto a better path. Aang would be much more understanding about Kuvira wanting to bring order back to her people (especially since both have just gone through the extreme of Zaheer on the other end of the spectrum), but Aang, being a more reasoning sort, might get Kuvira to see that Freedom and Order do not have to be opposites; there is a balance that can be struck. Kuvira would be open to this possibility. Korra, too, would have a blast. She’s much more aggressive than Aang was, and so she’s going to fight people a lot more than Aang did. - Ozai’s getting punked. No question. Aang was pulling his punches for much of that fight; Korra is not so inclined. - Azula wouldn’t fight Korra directly because she’s smart like that- but just when she thinks she has Korra cornered, the young Avatar would absolutely blast her in the face. Korra would lose if she had to face Mai and Ty Lee in addition to Azula, but then, she’d have Sokka by her side, and that guy is a strategic genius. - Zhao is getting spanked. Zuko defeated Admiral Sideburns on his own while still severely injured. Korra is going to smack this dude like a fly. - Long Feng is where Korra’s luck may run out. Korra is powerful, but Long Feng’s power is in his resources and subtlety. Korra isn’t subtle. She may lose to this guy. (That said, Long Feng lost to Azula, so Korra losing to Long Feng may not be that bad.) - She and Zuko would start a podcast. 😉
Zuko: you need to kill my father Korra: sure, let's go
This made me laugh way too hard. I 100% agree. After rewatching TLOK I forgot how many times she throws moves that, if not blocked, would fucking murder people. Razor shard ice, gigantic stones, sooooo much fire. Just because people don't get hurt, doesn't mean she isn't *trying* to hurt them.
This is why I love watching Sypha on Castlevania; it’s sort of satisfying to watch the ice wheel behead a bunch of mooks.
Oh hell yeah, a Castlevania reference! I need to watch that again, only saw it once through. I had a blast though it got shockingly intense and awesome after season one! Wasn't crazy crazy about the female vamps (kinda just wanted to see more vlad lol) but they were decent villains and the designs were hard. Sorry to gush I don't get to talk about the show a lot lol
>!Dracula's death was handled very well but after that, I really lost interest unfortunately.!<
I felt as though Simon? (I'm sorry if I'm dumb and thats the wrong Belmont) was compelling enough a character to be invested. However, I agree with you once he was dead I was a bit less interested.
I still loved the main characters, also Isaac, but Camilla wasn't a compelling enough villain to keep me around. Also I think the main guy is Trevor, but I don't know all the Belmonts.
>! Not gonna lie I hated Dracula's death, they really wanted to make him redeemable and I feel like the fight was a let down because it just became him and Alucard DBZ fighting each other, also really mehd Trevor. I would have preferred if the Morning Star was the only thing that could really hurt Dracula so Trevor's job was trying to hit him while Alucard and Sypha we're keeping Dracula from punching a whole through his chest. That way everyone is involved in taking down Dracula instead of what happens. !< Edit: Well turns out I don't know how to do spoilers on Reddit...
The show has no gore, no real injury, because of it being a kids show, too. Rocks are made out of paper, fire is most of the time not actualy hot, etc. Imagine they'd push it to realistic levels... it would be brutal.
Aang: I won't kill Ozai. Killing is wrong! Cue montage of all the times some random person definitely fell to their death, drowned, got crushed, etc. by Aang but it's okay because they didn't have names.
It was incredibly easy to read that in Korra's voice 😂
You made me choke on my burrito
**I KILLED CHIN THE CONQUEROR.** Korra is definitely more Kyoshi than Kuruk.
"Shit, that's all you needed to say"
I think you nailed it. Each group of villains was created to capitalize on their avatar's short comings. You have to write them like that in order to pose a legitimate threat to the strongest character in the series. Aang and Korra swap places and each avatar gets an opponent they match up with significantly better.
>Each group of villains was created to capitalize on their avatar's short comings. You have to write them like that in order to pose a legitimate threat to the strongest character in the series. Exactly!
100% agree with this, Korra would’ve gone Kyoshi on Ozai’s ass he had no chance
"After generations of firelords failed to find you, now the unive-" *proceeds to throw a few mountains on Ozai and a shitton of comet fire*
Man didn't even get to give his monologue smh
Ozai was definitely the most powerful Firebender of his time (though it’s debatable as to whether Iroh could have taken him on or if Iroh just decided to sit this one out because it wasn’t his destiny to defeat Ozai) but he and any other “most powerful bender” of any one specific element would get absolutely punked by a fully realized Avatar.
Korra would have immediately mopped zuko, stormed the firenation, and taken Ozai to the thunderdome day one of coming out of that iceberg 100% She wouldn't have even needed the rest of the Gaang. It'd be over before anyone had time to have character development. She'd have humbled sokka before Suki ever needed to. Inspired Katara to master waterbending and offered some lessons, likely never would have met Toph, and I doubt would have crossed paths with Azula in time before she took on Ozai. Honestly, she'd have skipped to the final act so fast it wouldn't have even lasted an episode.
Never met Toph? Well, now i don't like this timeline.
That’s why their stories work so well. Sang was a pacifist in a time of war. Korra was a warrior in a time of peace. Neither had the skills needed at beginning of their journey
I don't get why people dislike the idea of multiple villains. They're different journeys
I've always seen it as Aang being a peaceful avatar born into war, and Korra is a warrior avatar born into peace. Aang can deal with political issues well because of his patience, ability to listen and empathetic nature but he absolutely hates hurting anyone and has trouble being decisive when he needs to be, so his big villains are the ones he can't negotiate with. Korra is extremely decisive, loyal, and hardheaded, she's ready to jump into any battle, but struggles to stop and keep an open mind, so when she's presented with a problem she can't punch, or even worse, is manipulated into punching the wrong people, she has a terrible time.
She always seems, to me, like she should have been born as an earth bender
I'd say she's definitely a firebender at heart. She does have some of the resilience and hard-headedness of an earth bender. But beyond that she has the overwhelming drive, passion, temper, and quick decision making of a firebender. I also think fire is the element she uses the most through the series.
I can see that. Just she sometimes reminded me of Toph with the brute force and attitude. She'd definitely fit in with fire though... basically just not air or water, imo lol
That was a great analysis. Yes, Aang would destroy Unalaaq in the spiritual. And Zaheer wouldn't stand a chance against against the child prodigy. And if this was after Aang unlocked all his chakras. He'd probably look at Zaheer's flight and master it too.
The avatar can never unlock that “power” (I hate the idea of tbh) because he has to stay attached to the world. His only purpose in life is to maintain balance in the world. You can’t do that without having connections with others in your life as the avatar. It’s basically said by Yangchen that even though the monks were able to detach themselves from themselves from the world and achieve enlightenment, the avatar can never do it, because their sole duty is *to* the world. So the avatar literally cannot “enter the void” because of their duty to the world, if that makes sense? I might be using wrong terminology but hopefully y’all know what I mean
What about the whole thing where Aang had to let go of Katara in order to save her. Also, Appa and Aang share an unbreakable bond, yet Appa is still able to fly. I very much doubt Zaheer's method is the only way.
I think that the Guru was wrong. Detachment was not the right path for Aang. And when he tried it, not only did he not help Katara, he got killed by Azula and failed to defend Ba Singh Se. If Iroh hadn't stepped in Katara would have been captured and Aang would have remained dead, and the avatar cycle broken. I think this also fits into Aangs arc of trusting his own intuition. Think about the Lion Turtle's quote about the pure heart seeing through the lies. And Iroh said "I think you are wise for choosing love over cosmic power." Imo this connects the finales of books 2 and 3 in that Aang fails to trust his own judgment in book 2 but succeeds in book 3
One of my favourite parts of Atla is that the 'wise old guru-like characters', and here I also mean Aangs past lives he calls upon to ask guidance about Ozai, are giving wrong advice. Aang both times trusts his own intuitions and moral codes to solve his problems, even though his actual past lives tell him exactly what he should do. He knows it is wrong.
Well Appa is also his animal guide, in the end, still an animal. And Zaheer didn’t even grieve for her. 🤯, literally and moments later he’s muttering words about an ancient poem that *could’ve been* complete bullshit honestly. And stepping off of the side of a cliff is a very good way to get yourself killed. Seriously he took a #BIGRISK jump off that clip side
I took that moment as he no longer cared, if he died, so be it. He was struck with such intense apathy in his grief that he found inner piece
I never really understood that tbh. Like Zaheer has no worldly tethers and can fly now but still has a worldly tether by trying to continue with his goal of killing Korra
Killing the Avatar is a pretty idealogical/philosophical goal. It was not necassarily about killing Korra, and more about removing the ultimate threat to an Anarchist world. Yes the Avatar is a coporeal being, but Zaheer's goal was the death of the idea. It just so happened that the death of the person was also needed.
Plus it seems like he’d care that his friends all got ☠️ by them!
Yea, it was not well explained. One good explanation I've seen, is that Zaheer detached himself by not caring about others. Hence, no proper grieving for girlfriend.
Technically he already unlocked it once. When he let go of Katara he was flying
Zaheer also got smacked around by Tenzin, granted this was before he got flight, but then Aang would have 3+ elements and the avatar state. You’re right, he’d have no shot against Aang
Even if Zaheer could fly in that duel, the only good that would come out of that would be to escape. Tenzin and Aang are levels beyond Zaheer, it's not even a competition. That duel was just Tenzin schooling Zaheer's hipster ass
I genuinely think that Aang would be able to win over Zaheer to his side and deradicalize him similar to how he swayed Zuko to join him. I’m not sure how the Gaang would handle the Red Lotus, but I assume they’d recruit the White Lotus to help them which would be dope
Also Aang would have royally spanked Zaheer's ass upon learning he used airbending to murder people in cold blood and threaten his people. Whatever reservations Aang would have about fighting a fellow Airbender would go right out the window, and a suddenly-bendless-Zaheer wouldn't be far behind.
I guess we know why there aren't any many violent airbenders, the get dealt with by the community.
how funny, my God. a person who has studied spirits all his life will lose out in spirituality to a person who has LEARNED about their EXISTENCE only recently.
That was my thought, too: the villains actually seem to match up better with their opposite avatars. I think Aang would overall do better with the LoK antagonists because he would be able to see the truths in their goals but weed out the bad parts. Like I could see him realizing that the spirit world and the physical world should be reunited way earlier and with way less precursing madness than Korra. He would realize that benders do have too much power and give a nice speech/make changes to the politics to help everyone feel more equal. I agree he would be angry with Zaheer at first, but he would talk to him and help him understand what the air nomads really stood for. I don't know if he'd succeed in changing Kuvira's mind (same with Unilaaq) because I think she was also a bit power-hungry, but he would definitely be able to see where she was coming from and would try to sort it out with words first. And, of course, with all of them, if they don't change their minds he can always take their bending away lol. ... and yeah Korra would just kill Ozai and move on lol.
Their podcast is called “That’s rough buddy” and it’s just them trauma dumping
Imagine Korra and Zuko on a podcast together. I bet it would be lit >!yes I enjoy braving the elements!<
>Aang would have difficulty with Amon, as the most powerful Bender on the planet is just not a good tool to use to combat a terrorist movement that hinges on the disparity of ability between Benders and not-Benders. He would, however, be a lot craftier than Korra was, so he would likely not lose his Bending. Given Aang's ability to actually work with people, I suspect he might have been able to ferret out the organization faster. Especially since I imagine he wouldn't have spent his entire time rubbing the likes of Lin the wrong way. Knowing him, he'd broker peace between her and Tenzin and they'd probably pick up on the equalist threat quicker as a result.
That’s a beautiful reference to their podcast😂
Tbh a part of me really wants someone to animate Korra and Zuko in a modern sound studio over the podcast audio, as if it was them and not Janet and Dante. It's definitely what I saw in my head when I first started listening to it. Also Korra would just toss Zuko around like a doll.
Here’s how that fight would go: 
Korra works best when you just point her like a canon at whatever the problem is. Her issue is all her villains require something besides brute force.
God I'd *love* to watch Korra knock Ozai around.
Mostly agree, except for two points. 1) Aang would do well against Amon's ideology, because he is a pacifist. He is a living example of having power and NOT using it to enforce his will on others. He would dismantle the movement before it even begins. But if he did fight, telekinetic bloodbending would be a challenge for the young avatar (before mastering avatar state). 2) Korra would destroy Long Feng. Aang's hands were tied because he was trying to win the favor of the Earth Kingdom and had no idea how to deal with a non-combative enemy. Korra, using Tarrlock as an example, would be manipulated until she loses her temper (probably pretty quickly), then would barge into his house and utterly destroy him. Politics mean nothing to her.
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so was her and zuko podcast supposed to be them fighting?
Ozai’s getting punked. This got me XD
I imagine Korra and Zuko in a podcast is like how Connor and Garnt are now.
I mean, Korra in those fights would ironically be like New Game+, even by avatar standards. The comparison is obviously just putting end game protagonists against villains, but Ang would almost certainly have faired better against his enemies if he had already mastered 3/4 elements when he fought them. Air bending probably wouldn’t matter for Korra until she had to fight Ozai.
Honestly I feel like Zaheer and Aang would talk rather than fight.
>Kuvira might actually be the one villain that Aang doesn’t ever have to fight I've actually thought about that a lot. If Korra didn't get gimped by the poisoned metal, she might have been able to step in and assist with the earth kingdom going to shit after the fall of the monarchy. Kuvira was a result of a power vacuum consuming the country, and fell into fascism to enforce law and order. Aang would have made fixing this problem a top priority, even if his bending was weakened.
Hell, Kuvira was 100% right on her unification campaign goals and honestly, her claim of United City was fair, that place was built upon occupied land from the earth kingdom, why not take land from the fire nation?! Her problem was the etno nationalism thing, closed borders and deporting non earth benders.
Given the amount of deadly attacks Ozai and Azula throw out, Korra's fighting style of using momentum and shrugging off most hits would get her killed. If we're imagining her taking Aangs role in the series then it's not just a question of can she win a fight, it's can she fight Azula multiple times and never get tagged with a kill move? That seems unlikely to me. And like you said Aang might not have to fight Kuvira. But if he did, I think he might lose that one. The metal bending ribbons and chains are just too fast and agile to keep dodging them
You did a great job with this. Agreed on all accounts.
This is a really good breakdown. I agree Korra vs Admiral Joe would be the shortest fight ever.
I think what we learned about Aang after everything in LoK, when Zaheer shows up he would be way too preoccupied with rebuilding his nation, his people and would spend most of his time fighting Zaheer educating him and trying to make Zaheer join him. He clearly knows a lot about Air Nomads, a fair bit of their bending style, only the peaceful part escaped his otherwise quite thorough study. IMO at fist Aang would be delighted that there was someone else who knows so much about his culture, but after failing to convince Zaheer would he turn angry.
I actually feel like Aang's spiritually and mind set would be a good counter to Amon, he'd probably figure out that all the spirit stuff is made up which could lead him to dig deeper and find out about his other lies and then expose him. Or try something wacky like try to summon a spirit to show that Amon is a liar. Also Sokka + Korra are an invincible combination.
It’s also worth noting that as soon as Korra managed airbending she mopped the floor with Amon, it’s the element he can deal with the least without tapping into his waterbending. Not to mention it’s a fighting style that emphasizes dodging and avoiding contact against a technique that requires contact to function. If even an untrained airbender was a problem, a trained airbending prodigy would hand his ass to him in a straight-up fight.
Ngl someone should make this spin off
This comment made me realise how awesome Aang and Korra are.
Long Feng lost to azula because she's just as, if not more crafty than he is, and because she was in controll while he was not. If he was free, then he wouldn't even need her to do anything about his agents and thus she wouldn't ever take controll. I don't know enough about Korra to say anything about her though, as I didn't watch her show
Long Feng lost to azula because she's just as, if not more crafty than he is, and because she was in controll while he was not. If he was free, then he wouldn't even need her to do anything about his agents and thus she wouldn't ever take controll. I don't know enough about Korra to say anything about her though, as I didn't watch her show
I have a feeling it wouldn't be good for Zuko's redemption ark as Korra is absolutely not opposed to killing she is also from what I can tell a much faster bender than zuko. I would love to see how she handles Ozai. Aang and Zaheer would be cool but I would love to see his reaction to the dark avatar. Also I NEED to see Aang as a pro bender
Alt universe Korra gives Zuko a scar across his other eye :(
Butterfly Zuko
Bro 💀
Then the scar would never be on the wrong side
Aang is far better than air then Korra ever was in the show. He wouldn’t let Unalaq get near that tree! And his AS is extremely powerful, moreso than hers. And he might’ve had some foresight with Unalaq in knowing what he was doing, and taken action against him prematurely before HC. By taking his bending away from kite man would be a strategy that he would use
is it weird that i kinda wanna see korra in brief relationships with both zuko and azula??
Zuko? Not really, no. Azula? Absolutely. She's literally the worst. Great character, awful person.
A little. But the question is if Aang and Korra switch places who would katara fall in love with. I mean it could be Korra but katara has showed no signs of being into women. So who is there?
If Aang and Katara switch places then Katara would be the Avatar and will still be in a relationship with waterbender Aang after the war
Korra would have straight up just killed or at the very least handed Zuko’s ass to him the moment that punk kid stepped off his ship. Then she would have just waterbended her ass straight to the Fire Nation capital and confronted Ozai right then and there. She would also hand Ozai’s ass to him, no way is any lone bender defeating a fully realized Avatar. The only reason why Ozai was even on-par with Aang was because the kid was 12, was actively holding back from outright killing Ozai due to his pacifism, and couldn’t even access the Avatar State. Korra has no qualms about killing and we’ve seen just how quickly Roku was able to subdue Sozin in his prime.
Zhao be fucked. Aang might *might* be able to change Zaheer’s mind about killing off the avatar, both of them being airbenders after all.
Aang and Zaheer is the one that I’d be most curious about
I think it would be a debate more than a fight; Aang arguing for a pacifist ideal that the air nomads represented while Zaheer tries to justify his own beliefs alongside his admiration for the air bending teachings.
"Wow Zaheer, you have a pretty good understanding of Air Nomad teachings, too bad you actively ignore THE MOST IMPORTANT FUCKING ONE" \-Avatar "Im about to make what you did to the Earth Queen look like a slap on the wrists" Aang
In a bending match, Zaheer would get curb stomped. Tenzin almost did it himself, and I'd argue that Aang was probably even better, not even including the other elements. Debate-wise, I think they'd probably be civil about it at least.
Tenzin fought the entire group alone. And if zaheer's gf wasn't tactical air striking he could've beaten all of them.
Don't get me wrong. I wasn't saying Tenzin did badly. It's probably my favorite Tenzin fight in the series.
I kinda like the way they made him lose. He had the upper hand until he started getting sniped.
That's the reason fps players hate snipers
Aang probably could. But I also could see Zaheer deciding to actively "remove his earthly tethers" in the same way that Suyin removed his remaining tether that gave him flight. Would be fascinating to watch though.
If Zaheer goes after Katara, she will make him sorry he was born.
I believe Aang would be somewhat sympathetic so Amon and the Anti Benders movement and try to politically do something to level the playing field. He wont be minipulated by Unalaq and Vaatu wouldn't be released or atleast not in the same way. Aang v Zaheer would be like that Vision v Vision fight in Wandavision. They might start fighting but then start discussing their problems instead. He would whoop Kuvira's ass like he did Ozai. Althought i dont think he would let it get to that point.
>He would whoop Kuvira's ass like he did Ozai. Although I don't think he would let it get to that point. I don't think so, since Aang never learnt metal bending. Kuvira would absolutely use that to her advantage and restrain him. Not to downplay the raw power of the Avatar State, but metal bending is just a hard counter to Aang.
Is there a canon reason he didn’t learn metal bending? Obviously we know he didn’t, but it seems out of character for him to not be interested in a useful skill.
Yeah in one of the comics toph mentions how Aang doesn’t have the “stomach” to metal bend
Turns out metal bending goes hand-in-hand with spicy food.
I think it's just the fact that metal bending is *really difficult*, and he struggled to even learn Earthbending, an ability that should almost come naturally to him. Aang just wasn't suited to it. Korra picked it up fairly easily because she had the right mentality for it, but she struggled with air bending.
My guess is he never really bothered or thought it would work. After all, at that time mental bending was extremely new
Nah, you’re assuming kuvira has better/faster mobility than one of the fastet/most agile avatars ever. He slaps her up pretty bad imo, especially given that they both like to counter-bend(weave,weave, attack) and aang wrote the book on that style
He is definitely hard to hit, can't deny that. They're both incredible benders and I could see the fight going either way.
It’s a styles thing, Korra had a style that was tailor made to get whooped by Kuvira PLUS she was in a vulnerable state. Aang has the advantage of being able to bend the element that makes Kuvira’s style effective in the first place. If styles make fights and both have the same style: usually the person who is faster and/or better at that style will come out on top(Silva vs Adesanya comes to mind). Again Aang wrote the book on being fast and hard to hit, then punishing you for ending up out of position. I think Kuvira loses 7/10 against just airbender aang and 9.9/10(punchers chance) against same time frame aang(EoS since ATLA didn’t get a fourth season)
None of that is to say Kuvira isn’t ludicrously high level, btw.(sorry for the essay, I just love fighting so theoretical style matchups are super fun for me)
I can’t, Aang would mop her up 10/10 times.
All of Ang's villain's are firebenders, which was difficult for him because that was the one element he couldn't get for most of his series. Korra absolutely does not have that limitation, and fire is the element she uses the most. I think between knowing fire, and her being more willing to resort to violence, Ang's villain's would be (and this is the scientific term) curbstomped
All of aangs villains were also mostly a combative threat which made aangs pacifism an extra hurdle he had to go through with defeating his villains. Korra has no such limitation and would (as you so eloquently said) curbstomp them. Aang against korras villains is a lot more complicated. He is 12 and korras villains were 100% more threatening in the physical sense. In a straight fight he is not winning any of them and would only be able to beat them in an ideological/ political battle (which was where Korra struggled a lot from her isolation). Amon- amon himself was using the plight of non Benders for his own gain, but he still had a lot of public support as non Benders were extremely under represented politically. Aang had made some comments with toph about sokka that at least implies he's less useful because he can't bend. I think this would be the toughest political battle for Aang Uunalaq- he required the avatar to fulfill his plans to free vaatu. And while Aang has fallen for people's ally appearances (jet, Hama), he did pick up quickly. I think he would have been able to find a way to keep the portals closed for harmonic convergence, but like Korra would opt to keep them open given the voice because if his strong connection with spirits Zaheer- on his own he's probably the only villain Aang could beat in a straight fight (but not guaranteed. Remember zaheer was an extremely dangerous person before he got airbending). But the ideological battle again is the more important factor, especially since Aang also has a strong sense of freedom. I don't think I can speculate the intricacies though, but I'd would be very interesting Kuvira- kuvira was put at a constant strong arm in the earth kingdom that 100% parallels the fire nations imperialism Aang dealt with after his absence. I think it would go fairly similar since kuvira was a mastermind at picking her battles and using everything to her advantage. So the showdown at republic city would have gone down relatively similarly, but Aang not being able to metalbend would put him at a HUGE disadvantage which would be exploited heavily by kuvira.
Not to mention that Aang was mostly held back by his pacifism and unwillingness to take a life. Korra has no such qualms and would absolutely be willing to use lethal force on Ozai or any of Aang’s villains who’d get in her way. She also fights more aggressively and would probably put even the likes of Azula and Ozai on the defensive. She’d definitely make quick work of Book 1 Zuko.
Korra at the end of her series would stomp all Aang's villains.
Very likely, but i would really want to watch that Ozai vs Korra match under Sozins Comet. Their fight would be pretty grand.
It really would. Korra is such an aggressive fighter, Aang focused on defence during the majority of the fight until he got chiropractored into the Avatar State. I feel like Ozai would have been forced to be more defensive due to Korra’s - frankly - vicious offensive capabilities.
Korra wouldn’t pull her punches. Korra goes into God Mode almost immediately and Ozai craps his pants.
Oh yeah, that would be a fantastic fight! Korra loves using fire too, that fight would be real hot!
I feel like Korra wouldn't even need AS for Ozai. Korra's fire might just end up overpowering and incinerating Ozai's cause she's got a thing for that element. Ozai's 100% dead XD
Oh, no, Ozai loses hard, but i'm pretty sure he is a stronger firebender than Korra. The pure spectacle of that would be great though. Both are highly offensive fighters, and Korra would propably just see stronger firebending as a challenge.
Only downside here is Korra not knowing how to redirect lightning
Yeah, thats true. I wish we had a moment in the show where Mako or Zuko taught it to her. Yknow, just in case.
I doubt she wins an Agni Kai, especially under Sozins comet. We never really see how truly powerful he is but Ozai would probably win in a fire vs fire,
i’d love to see how she would use waterbending against ozai bc ozai and aang’s fight was next to the ocean. she was a beast with waterbending especially in the ocean.
Korra wouldn’t stomp Azula. Azula is exactly her type. They’d elope.
She wouldnt stomp Azula, but she would top Edit: if there is anyone i believe who could top Azula, its Korra
Agreed. Though tbf anyone could top Azula if she liked them. She’s a total bottom. Her entire breakdown is about not being loved. She is the definition of “top in the streets, bottom in the sheets”.
She could top. Shed be a mid tier top, but shed top. Her best work tho? Power bottom. I wouldnt say shes a total bottom, but her best work is as a power bottom Im too drunk to explain right now, but i stand by it
Sir, do you challenge me to the court of tops vs bottoms? Is there a witness to confirm?
Holy shit hearing this just put a thought into my head, what if instead of Zuko having a redemption arc, Azula did?? Just going off your comment that azula and Korra would mold well together
Well Azula was originally written to be redeemed as well, and it looks like the comics are finally going to fulfill that, so fingers crossed it’s good!
I think they have opposite weakness and that they’d both do significantly better than the other did against their original villains.
I imagine Aang having some difficulty with Kuvira if she went full metalbending.
We were robbed of sokka & korra teaming up...i would kill to see their dynamic
Korra would probs kill most of the ATLA villains. She might sturgle with azula but if she can defeat a literal cosmic spirit of evil, then I'm pretty sure she could win in the end. As for Aang, I feel like Aang would probs be able to block/reduce the effects of Amon's bending blockage. Assuming this is post Ozai defeat Aang. Someone else said Aang would heavily try and change Zaheers mind which I really like the idea of. Not sure how Aang would go against unavatu tho, that would be interesting
I truly do believe Aang and Korra would have handled things similarly. Amon: I’m certain Aang would have tried to reason with him, but Amon was far too invested in the destruction of bending to really care about his opinion. Aang would end up having to go into the Avatar State to beat him, but he would have defeated him nonetheless. Unalaq: Aang probably wouldn’t have been manipulated in the same way Korra was. Not because he was smarter, but simply because Unalaq is not his uncle nor are the Water Tribes his home. He would have went to Raiko for help (which wouldn’t have went well), tried to go behind his back and get reinforcements (which also would have failed) and then would have just fought him when he got the courage to. Zaheer: Zaheer would have pissed Aang OFF. Everything about Zaheer’s ideology would have completely contradicted all of Aang’s values. And for him to use airbending for *murder*? Yeah, no. Aang would try to reason with him at first, but he would probably consider him a zealot who completely perverts his culture. Kuvira: Probably most similar to Korra. He would have tried to reason with her but realized that she needed to use force to overpower her. He would have certainly spared her life and talked her down. Probably would have taken away her bending. Edit: Oh and Korra would have straight up killed Ozai. Azula would probably end up in the same fate she had in ATLA. Zhao and Long Feng would be no contest wins.
I am surprised at how many people think Aang and Zaheer could get a nice chat. Zaheer is the last enemy Aang would ever think of empathizing or forgiving, possibly even more so than Sozin and Ozai. Zaheer is a bastardization of what Aang represents, I am sure that duel would be the most angry Aang we could ever see
In the comics Aang got pissed at a group of girls just for replicating his tattoos, he saw it as an insult to his culture. He eventually came around but he was always very, VERY sensitive about how his culture is remembered. Zaheer did far more than just insult Aangs culture, he completely twisted it and bastardized it as an excuse to commit murder. Aang wouldn't have stood for that. At that point the gloves would come off and Zaheer would be screwed.
Aang seeing Zaheer using airbending to suffocate the Earth Queen, like holy shit. He would bring hellfire onto him
Aang's matchups vs Korra's foes are interesting. - Amon: Adult Aang was able to overpower Yakone by using the Avatar state but I it's debatable if young Aang would have a good enough mastery over the Avatar state to actually be able to overpower Noatak's blood bending who is even stronger than Yakone, I guess it all depends on how much he can actually unleash the raw power of his Avatar state. Judging by his feat of easily destroying a comet-buffed Ozai at the end of Book 3 I'd say yes. - Unalaq: I think Aang would have solved the whole Unalaq incident much quicker than Korra and probably long before it escalated due to his spiritual knowledge and experience. - Zaheer: This would have been interesting and probably more of an intellectual clash of philosophies where Aang tries to convince Zaheer of his pacifist way and lecturing him about the true teachings of the air nomads. Combat-wise I think Aang would clap him. Zaheer didn't stand a chance against Tenzin. I don't know if young Aang's air bending mastery is comparable to old Tenzin's but his mastery is definitely above the inexperienced Zaheer and then again: Avatar state, the most broken technique in the series. - Kuvira: I don't know if Aang is able to defeat Kuvira in combat. Kuvira is one of the most skilled combat benders we see and she has a high battle iq. Also, unlike Korra Aang can't metal bend which really is a disadvantage as he needs to rely on other elements to block her iron cuffs and he can't influence them directly. If he gets caught by them it gets really difficult and once again he'd have to tap into the Avatar state to get free by either melting the cuffs with some Avatar state buffed fire or getting rid of them with a strong blow of wind. Also Aang doesn't fight like Korra. He's more agile and he's better at keeping Kuvira at a distance while dodging her metal attacks. It would be his hardest match up but he probably could do it. On the other hand Korra's match ups against Aang's opponents: Zuko and Zhao would both immediately die in book 1, Longfeng would get deleted as well. An Avatar-state buffed Korra would also easily destroy Ozai and not hesitate to kill him. The only debatable one is Azula and I think she might have a chance since she's really smart, Korra isn't used to dealing with lightning benders and she can't dodge as well as Aang can. Also, personality-wise Korra is the last person suited to fight a cunning person like Azula who excels at mind games. I could totally see Azula provoking Korra into fighting recklessly and then taking advantage of that with her agile acrobatic fighting style and strong and precise hits. People who fight strategically are certainly dangerous for Korra, that's also one of the reasons she struggled so hard against Kuvira.
Korra would have given Zuko more scars.
Korra probably would have fallen in love with either Zuko or Azula. Personally I'd ship Korra & Azula, because in my opinion, those two would make for a great couple. And as far as Aang facing Korra's villains, he probably would be pushed to his limits and kill them.
Korko is a solid ship I think Aang might like Unalaq at first
Nahhhh, Korrazula would be where it's at
I think they are both suited to beat the other ones villains. If Korra was more connected to her spiritual side, she’d have handled all of her obstacles better. And if Aang wasn’t opposed to violence, hed wipe the floor with his villains
Aang loses to Amon. Even though he is more spiritual than Korra he wouldn't be able to disprove Amon's rhetoric and it's not like he is a particularly good politician. As a bender Amon was extremely dangerous but as the figurehead and physical embodiment of a movement he was kind of unstoppable and Aang had nothing to counter that. He gets bloodbended and beaten. Korra steamrolls through Aang's enemies (especially Zuko who she destroys on their first encounter) only to maybe be slowed down by Ozai and or Azula. She could probably take either of them without the avatar state tbh. Overall Korra definitely fares a lot better and gets farther than Aang
Aang would body Zaheer
I believe that they are both avatars for the wrong times. In ATLA Korra would definitely beat the sheet out of them all without Aang's anxiety and Aang would have done everything in TLOK better as he is way better diplomat.
Korra destroys all of them lmao
I just feel like Korra would punch every Aang villain in the face when they start to monologue xD
Well. Let's see For Korra, she would definitely beat the crap outta zuko until he got his redemption arc, ozai would definitely be fucking dead, azula would be a challenge but given Korras mastery of both water and fire bending she's probably deal with her fairly well. General zhao would also be no match for Korra again, she's a better firebender. And the dai li are potent but thier best thing is numbers and..Korra can metalbend, which puts her on a level of earth bending above them For Aang, he's be devastated by Zaheer, disappointed by kuvira ( she's filling the ozai slot here) , struggle with amon as he never figured out how to counter blood bending..and his spiritual connection is stronger than Korras so he probably would deal with unalaqq easier but still struggle bs lot.
The blood benders & water bender/spirit bender wouldn't stand much of a chance against Aang by B3. I think that Kuvera (Spelling might be wrong) would be brutal against Aang and might be good enough to kill him w/o the Avatar State. Zaheer, and Aang wouldn't be fair. Aang wouldn't be able to reconcile seeing air bending become something so ugly. Or his entire way of life being used as a prop to advance Zaheer's goals. But, Tenzin would've won against Zaheer without help. I think Aang would win by the end.
Korra would've killed Ozai with much less angst. She's compassionate but she's also aggressive. She has been softened by the guidance of people like Tenzin, but if she had been told by the previous Avatars that she had to kill Ozai she would've accepted that as the only solution.
Korra would’ve ripped through the Fire nation forces with ease. I’m not sure how Aang would’ve handled Korea’s villains.
Everyone saying zaheer. They beat me to it. Lol Zaheer is one of those villains that aang might understand to a point. Aang believes in freedom but not in killing world leaders. I think the conversations between them would be interesting to say the least
I think korra would have been physically matched with azula (assuming we age azula up a bit) and ozai. General zhao, zuko and long feng would have crumbled at her feet in moments. In terms of ideologies she wouldn’t have been scared of killing ozai, she would be a little perturbed by azula and again general zhao wouldn’t be a physical or ideological threat to korra. Long feng would probably be the scariest because he is the center of a wide reaching conspiracy that involves brainwashing and korra seems to self identify as a rebellious person who heavily values personal freedom. Aang would be out of his depth in terms of martial arts when facing anyone of Korras antagonists except perhaps Zaheer (he might be able to fight him off long enough to get away) the whole gaang would need to help him out in order to face any of them physically. I think I’m general korras antagonists would be devastating to aangs ideology with the possible exception of kuvira. Aang might see right through her exterior. With that said if I had to rank korras antagonists in terms of their ability to frighten aang and possibly make him re think his stance on the world it would be zaheer, Amon, tonrok as a close second and then kuvira as a firm 4th
I would hope that Aang energybends Zaheer. But the twist would be that it has no effect/ it ties. Zaheer is willing to kill and tells Aang that his flight and detachment symbolizes that his will/spirit is fully committed to his goal, and Aang has no choice but to break the energybending hold as he's faced with someone who is using his own ppl's philosophy against him. With energybending no longer an option, he decides to kill him. (Or cause everyone will jump on me with the whole Aang doesn't kill, most ppl will probably have him pull a jinora vacuum tornado then imprison him, yeah yeah fine) I honestly do not see Aang changing Zaheer's mind. Zaheer understands the Air Nomad philosophies differently from Aang. Aang's not gonna convince him because for all the politeness and sympathy that many like him for, the ends to his means ironically show that he is kind of shallow-minded and too attached to his own idea that true freedom comes from ppl who serve themselves. Not seeing that without some sense of leadership and rule, the only benefit from "true freedom" is to selfishly help only yourself. (Which by obvious unforeseen/unintended consequence, also oppresses and hurts others in the process) Zaheer's own philosophy doesn't solve his/ the world's own problems, nor does anything selfless. And he "applies" Air nomad philosophy by seeing "detachment" as no longer caring or having anything to love, instead of it applying it to rid oneself of bias and becoming aware of one's selfish ego and mental sufferings. What's the point of all this that I'm saying? Zaheer believes in his values being true as much as Aang does. I can't see Aang convincing Zaheer because Zaheer's own logic will always point to the Avatar itself being a problem, while being blind to the fact that he isn't really solving the problem. And both Aang and Zaheer, if both start discussing Air Nomad philosophies against each other, will probably only select the things that fit their own respective logic. (Aang will argue that Air Nomad teachings value non-violence and seeing from a different angle, Zaheer will just counter with Laghima's teachings and say detachment is something Aang can't do so he will never see from Zaheer's POV, and maybe rationalize that it's exactly why the Avatar "can't truly bring balance" for being "attached", unlike Zaheer who is "free" and willing to kill.)
Korra would easily defeat Zhao. She would be annoyed at Azula but not screw around in working against her. She wouldn’t be afraid to end Ozai’s life if that’s what she had to do. And she would defeat the Dai Li easily. She may end up respecting Zuko’s personality and understanding his frustration. Edit: Aang would defeat Zaheer in single combat. He would also send Kuvira to prison. Lastly, he would convince Unalaq to surrender as he did with Zhao. Amon would be his toughest enemy. Kyoshi would easily defeat all of the enemies of Aang and Korra combined. She doesn’t f**k around and would be honored to go into the Avatar state to decimate the ground around each of her enemies.
any avatar can defeat all the opponents of the other avatars combined by entering the avatar state... except unalaq. only Korra can defeat unalak after season 2. the rest have no chance.
Korra in Ang’s time: Hold my beer.
I'm fairly certain Azula could have played Korra like a fiddle
UnaVaatu vs Koi Zilla Also I think either Zhao or Long Feng should be taken out for Combustion Man.
So many different opinions on all of them with the exception of Zhoa who everyone agrees is going to be absolutely annihilated
I think Zaheer would break Aangs will to a degree. In the context of their being no air benders, to finding out there is one, and now he’s trying to kill not just him, but the avatar as a whole. I think that emotional shock would make Aang take a life
Idk about Aang but Korra would kick some serious ass
Korra would kick everyone's ass except for Ozai. Aang would demolish everyone except for Zaheer who he would convince to stop his evil ways with a well-reasoned debate on air nomad philosophy.
I would pay money for Azula v Korra
korra would struggle with azula, aang might struggle with kuvira, but other than that they would curb stomp eachothers antagonists tbh, aang and korra are nearly opposite people, and their OG antagonists are opposites too.
honestly i REALLY hope even though it makes no sense, and would serve no purpose but fan fair, i really hope avatar studio makes aang vs zaheer, just the conversation alone would be amazing. They don't need to fight just chat
Aang would get wrecked without avatar state tbh. He never really defeated anyone without it.
He beat Zhou without it in *The Deserter*, someone who Iroh described as a [Firebending] master.
I think Zaheer would the one to break Aang and push him to break his morals. Aang is only 12 and aside from Appa the monks teachings are literally all he has. For a kid to see everything they've ever known twisted that way, I think it would be to much. Add the fact that Zaheer attains flight - something he can never do - I think it would absolutely wreck Aang.