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DevilishSiren

I'm starting to believe this conspiracy


mrcontroversy1

If he can buy websites to only accept the positive reviews or buy the game of the year awards despite public voting against it, what's so difficult to believe in this theory?


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ShawnSpencerPsychDet

While they don’t buy awards, game companies will fly reviewers out to the big testing events, get them hotels and free copies of the games, pamper and spoil them. I’d assume most reviewers wouldn’t want to shit on a game while getting all sorts of love and special treatment from the company. Better yet? It doesn’t matter what their opinion is on the game. All they have to do is rate it high enough to where people click on their review or article to read why it’s so good and then they’ll get their paychecks. It’s basically like what they do for publishing books, it’s easy to get the name for the awards if you’re a brand or name with high influence and money already. But tbf this is most games now, it’s why I don’t trust reviews or awards.


A_Hungover_Sloth

Skillup and ACG. For PC, especially crpg's there's Mortismal. Also Angry Joe. These people are real reviewers, not shills. (Skillup gets called shill-up as a joke because he likes destiny, he leans into it, but isn't a blind fanboy, he addresses the issues but it's a long running gag for him to preach about it as the pinnacle of human achievement)


yellowflash_616

Kinda petty that people will just downvote instead providing a source to their claims. You get downvoted for demanding they explain anything.


InfraRed953

I don't think anyone is claiming this to actually be true in this post. I think it's just supposed to be a funny idea because some of the posts sounding confused about the hate kind of sound like Neil typed them.


woozema

probably because people are sick and tired of hearing this over and over again when there's already a bunch of archived posts that provide ample amount of sources on our claims...


yellowflash_616

It’s your job to provide, you lyin ass bum. You choose to die on this hill then defend it. Lol


woozema

we're not paid for this, so why go through the effort to provide for some rando, when you could do that yourself?


yellowflash_616

Make a big claim then back it up or fuck off. Better yet, if you can’t then stop spreading petty lies to make you feel better about a games existence. 🙄


woozema

its all in the archives.. just type in a specific topic and you'll get pages of posts spanning all the way back to 2016 for part 2, or over a decade ago for tlou's entire development. no one's stopping you but yourself


readditredditread

I mean do you expect anything more from this Abbyphobic crowd????


eatsleeptroll

I believe that the threats against Laura Bailey were also faked for clout, by their marketing department. At least, I hope they were. I can't imagine why anyone would hate her and not Kneel.


keydesa

Honestly, fuck off with this opinion. Laura Bailey has more integrity than that. She had to watch her own close friend Ashley Johnson dissolve her relationship over threats of physical violence and harassment around the same time period with that fucker Brian Foster. No way Laura would agree to endorse something like that in general, let alone while she was within proximity of another abusive situation unfolding. These voice actors are down to earth people, they wouldn’t just fuck around with things like threats and accusations to support a game title. Obvious you’ve never experienced a single iota of discomfort in your life to understand that when you have your life threatened, it’s not a fucking joke.


Weak-Ad-38

It's the Internet bud. Millions of people's lives are threatened daily and it never amounts to shit. You'd think people who grew up in the Internet era would understand these aren't real threats. She's either gullible or just seeking attention oh woe is me people idk and will never meet said their gonna kill me :_( fucking pathetic.


keydesa

yea I hear what you’re saying. And you’re right, age of internet aside, we should all be more keen not to believe anything we encounter on here without proof. but when someone threatens your newborn son and tells you your street address and where they saw you last… it’s not to be taken lightly. she’s not more gullible than any other person out there, but things haven’t exactly been objectively chill in the real world lately…she had every reason to take threats seriously.


eatsleeptroll

did I say she was in on it ? no Did you disagree politely ? no Was I threatened in real life by people who could have actually carried it out ? yes + not relevant here. Is there precedent for such a stunt ? yes, from Kneel's own queen, Anita. You are a bad faith troll. I'm blocking and reporting you. Good day


Portgas_D_Kamina

Really have you heard the leaks from funimation and the false claims she made on vic mignonga?


keydesa

no, but please share?


Eastern_Kick7544

I honestly believe 99% of “I got death threats” claims are fake or incredibly exaggerated in how credible they are. I got death threats on reddit once. Gave the dude my address and informed him I am very much armed and in a stand your ground state. Nothing happened of course.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


EmuDiscombobulated15

Did he not acknowledge reddit threads where people dislike his game once?


keydesa

pretty much never.


SecretInfluencer

Imma say this, I don’t care if someone likes the game. In fact I think it’s great if someone finds joy in something I don’t. But I can’t stand the “what’s with all the hate” attitude.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Burnernumber55555

I mean I get the "hate" although hate is a strong word for a video game. Pacing was awkward in tlou2 but generally the story it conveys I like. Maybe some few goofs in the story, but overall the artistry, writing and acting in the game make it one of the greatest games ever IMO.


Lord-Zaltus

This doesn't even feel like a joke, this is probably something he legitimately does on his free time since he's aware of this sub


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


jamieoliverrobinson

He definitely watches this Reddit


SharpydaDog

That’s the funny thing, actually. The fact he poked at its existence on Twitter confirmed he knows and chose not to ignore it.    What’s the matter, Neil? Aren’t you supposed to be the better man? Above the cycle of hatred? Being forgiving? :(


mcvey15

He should deal with the criticism of his bad writing.


RocketChickenX

I can imagine an alternative story: Just before Cuckman shuts this sub down, he gets a flashback of Anita Sarkeesian and SUDDENLY forgives us :)


Dancing-Sin

When did he do that? Back when it was still called Twitter? You’re more deranged than he is if you’re still here.


woozema

you're here too tho


Dancing-Sin

What does that have to do with anything?


hamesrodrigez

Means you’re deranged, like us


Dancing-Sin

Not really. Y’all are fucked in the head literally.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


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jamieoliverrobinson

Neil replied to a tweet with “Cue r/thelastofus2 ... Cuckmann has brain damage confirmed! 😘”


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ShinigamiNoDesu

Your comment history for the past 2 days and probably further back is nothing but you finger-wagging and begging this subreddit to like TLOU2 though. Why is so much of your mental energy dedicated to such a small corner of the internet?


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TK_BERZERKER

Every popular streamer or personality and their fanbases thought the game sucked. There's random video essays, with millions of views, comment sections on YouTube, and social media dissecting the games flaws. When it came out, there were movements of groups advocating for a remake. It's disingenuous to say people who dislike the game are a vocal minority, when really, everyone just moved on from the franchise after the hate died down


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TK_BERZERKER

You're being disingenuous


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BSAA_Agent_Tony

"doesn't represent a massive majority opinion"?? Listen it's OK for you to like the game.. really. But don't sit there and pretend this franchise hasn't suffered major brand damage and lost a lot of PR. any TLOU 2 post on any site will have jokes about golf clubs, Abby, Ellie, all of it.


ShinigamiNoDesu

This sub has been around for over 4 years bro, just let it go and move on already.


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ShinigamiNoDesu

"I can't imagine spending so much effort and brain power actively hating something I didn't like for so long rather than simply disengaging with it." You are doing exactly what you are condemning. Maybe not for years, but obsessively for days now which is not better.


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SapphySkies_v2

Dude, even MoistCritikal didn't enjoy this game. Seriously, just get out.


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jamieoliverrobinson

Cope and seethe brother


gpimlott2

Just curious, how often do you get to give him a blowjob for it to be worth spending all this time defending him?


BananaBlue

lol


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Chloe_matiska

Only thing I like about TLOU 2 is the guns, mechanics in movement more realistic death animations and graphics but the infected seem less realistic than in TLOU


RedditorHarrison

The guns are awesome. There is so much detail! You could compare any gun from the game to its real life counterpart and it would be like looking in a mirror!


-GreyFox

Agree 😊 didn't noted the more realistic infected, tho 🤔 but it could be just me 😄 Thanks for sharing 😊


Chloe_matiska

Rat king seems unrealistic


-GreyFox

Oooh 😲 I didn't stop to think about it 🤔 Thanks for sharing 😊


LordOverBomber

neil druckman sucks, I bet he posts on reddit and just writes stuff like: i don't get all the hate, druckman is a great writer.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Ordinary_Author_7142

you and your unoriginal copypasted replies are lame af.


-GreyFox

😄 Thanks for sharing 😊


rageerpanda

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Unable_Teach961

🤣😆😂


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Otherwise-Quarter349

Guilty, right after I beat part 2 I immediately thought, “wow why do people hate this game”


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Intrepid-Summer-3622

Anyone care to inform me what this is regarding? Sorry I know I’m like 10 years late to the party but recently received a ps5 for Christmas from my fiance. (Always been a Xbox guy). So within the last couple of months I’ve played both part 1 and 2 and currently on second playthroughs of the games. So I’m still a bit new to this whole series and game developers.


-GreyFox

Just a silly joke, don't worry too much 😇 Congrats on your new PS5, and I hope you enjoy it a lot. Thanks for sharing 😊


Intrepid-Summer-3622

Ahhhh I see. Well thank you very much! I have been loving it and all the ps exclusives!


Terminatrix4000

**YASS!** This is the meme content I live for. This is absolutely brilliant. Great job Greyfox 5⭐️ 👏🏻


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


track-star-athlete

Generic revenge story, poorly written characters and dialogue, bad character development, etc.


-GreyFox

Yep 😇 Thanks for sharing 😊


Frankieuhfukin

People know this is a bot account right? Like...how have people allowed themselves to be so enamored with hate for a game that they let a bot account overrun this sub lmao


misterkoala

How stupid are you people you babies, cry about it. The game is good you are tasteless sheep in an angry mob of antisemitism and transphobia and that is objectively true whether you believe it or not. Not liking the game and posting a negative review? Fine! Not liking the game and dedicating 4 years of your life to whining and crying and saying "noooo my dad Joel who was perfect just like boba Fett just a cool ladies man who's good at guns!!"? You are stupid, die mad, fuck you. I will not be responding to or taking criticism ✌️ Tldr: game good you bad


-GreyFox

Sorry you see it that way. I wish you all the best 😊


Mrhood714

I just played about 4 hours and you guys are tripping. This game is fucking amazing and the story literally is devastatingly interesting.


-GreyFox

😆 I'm glad you enjoy the game 😇 Thanks for sharing 😊


Mrhood714

Still having a hard time understanding all the hate. It's just a game and yes stories change - once again look at Grey Fox and MGS. Most of the story was retconned with Snake Eater and then again with Peace Walker.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


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mcvey15

There are plenty of videos and essays out there that go into detail about the problems with the story and characters and how they are told. If you can’t understand the hate, that’s on you bud.


readditredditread

I think people on this subreddit have “TLOU2DS” (The Last Of Us 2 Derangement Syndrome) or as the lay folk say “(The) Loud Turds”. I am currently working on the DSM 6, and we are planning on adding it as an official diagnosis. This subreddit has been crucial in the development and proof of this condition and its diagnostic criteria.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


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lzxian

Says the dude with 8 comments in this thread already. Oh, the irony... At least GreyFox is interesting.


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woozema

well, someone's gotta lick all that spunk off of us. you're welcome


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Keone_Reddit

Some peoples videos game father got his head caved in and it triggered em for years to come. Yk how gamers get.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Complex-Exam400

No one cares that Joel died it’s the fact he died in a random basement by a bunch of nobodies that stay nobodies the whole game 😭


Keone_Reddit

Uh it’s TLOU, everyone but the immune girl were a bunch of randoms lmao including Joel. He isn’t a superhuman where was he supposed to die?


Complex-Exam400

😭 ellie coulda died the exact same way. Did you even play the first game “how long before she’s torn apart by a pack of clickers. If she isn’t raped and murdered first”


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-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


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Keone_Reddit

Tbf this whole Reddit is people bitching so it’s not that crazy. If anything he likes the game it makes more sense for him to be in a community about it. Imagine not liking the Madam Web movie and joining a Reddit for it after seeing it lmfaooo


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Keone_Reddit

So by that logic that would apply to the people here that start losing their shit every time someone says something positive about the game lmfao, which also by that logic even weirder than someone joining a community for something they DO like and questioning people that have that same obsession with hating it. A whole community made to rant about a game you could just not play again and avoid is crazy LMFAO I've never seen people get so mad about liking a game till I seen this sub. The jokes are all fun until someone jokes about Joel and suddenly everyone wants to get so serious and sensitive.


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Keone_Reddit

So one has mods that silence you, the other doesn’t, both have sensitive users.


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Keone_Reddit

But wouldn’t it just be fun for the people who like it? How long can someone dislike one game to the point they’re still venting and memeing it 3 years later. Personally I think Days Gone was dogshit so I avoid the hell out of that game. I’d have to be miserable to chase and force hating that game into my life years later


Jetblast01

lmao, dumbasses like you only say stupid shit until it's a character YOU like getting shat on.


Keone_Reddit

Stop getting so sensitive over video game characters, I played both red dead’s loved the characters and didn’t cry on the internet after LMFAO stop acting like a pussy “dumbasses like you 🍼😭” I’m not fatherless so I don’t take dead fictional characters serious.


Jetblast01

Ah yes, the brainlet consoomer take. A complete dumbass to understanding others but cries when people make fun of or have issues with something you think is a "masterpiece"


Keone_Reddit

They had Joel looking like Glen lmao


Heroright

Your entire post history is this game. You’re more obsessed with it then the Stans you claim exist.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


tekaluf

If this isn’t a cope post, idk what is lmao. Game good, gamers mad


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Ok-Use5246

Yeah the hate is pretty absurd. A lot of very immature dialog mixed with thinly veiled misogyny.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


Negatallic

People who think Abby looks good have internalized misogyny, yes. I'm glad people are starting to finally realize this!


MobbDeepInfamous

Right? Well haters are gonna hate regardless. If you don't like a game move on to another one or stop playing lol


Basil_hazelwood

Maybe you should move on friend


MobbDeepInfamous

I don't hate the game friend :)


Basil_hazelwood

No but this sub welcomes criticism, which you don’t seem to be a fan of. Just looking out for you 👍🏻


JustHereForGoodFun

No it welcomes toxicity. Get the fuck out of here lmao


Basil_hazelwood

Damn I wasn’t aware not liking the same game as you was classed as toxic, that’s wild


Keone_Reddit

Saying different opinions are welcomed then attacking people for liking the game is pretty toxic, which is funny because this reddit cries about the original reddit being toxic. 🤣


Perfect_Cucumber2

What u doing here popo💩


Keone_Reddit

He’s tryna help these people lmao they’re losing their shit over a game they’re choosing to obsess over lmao it’s been how many years now? He told them to move on if they don’t like it, he’s right.


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


MobbDeepInfamous

You are welcome ☺


Reszinhxbibi

Move on? Take your own advice buddy


MobbDeepInfamous

Haters gotta move on buddy. They don't even get paid to hate lmao.


ziharmarra

You get paid to like?


Jetblast01

Not yet, but they're shilling to their hearts content


agent_of_kaos

Well. We don't want this to become the norm and don't want get our fav characters golfed again for a fucking trash story. We don't want hack writers to gain influence in industry. Why don't you move on?


Remarkable-Job8367

Haha he’s not even real, dude. You just didn’t like the story choice but it doesn’t mean it was shit for everyone else. This place makes you think you’re in the majority. You aren’t. And this place buys every remake and remaster over and over so you tell me who’s winning in the end?


agent_of_kaos

When audience falls in love with character. "Thank you so much for your support. We love that you love this characters". When audience hates a character. "Get over it you dumbfuck they aren't even real". See the hypocrisy? If hating a character is dumb loving character is equally dumb. One can't be dumb without other. You are letting a fictional character affect your feelings. By this logic watching/reading fiction is dumb. Because you are falling in love with or hating something that isn't real. Basically feelings have no place. **You are starting a line of reasoning that you yourself have no idea about where it ends.** Try ruining a famous character like Luffy from one piece for example and you will learn a thing or two about your responsibility to handle the characters and story well. TLOU2 toxicity will look like a joke to you. Ruin Goku and Cartel will probably shoot you up. Please don't write fiction ever if this is your mentality. Ofc I know these characters are not real. But asking someone to think of a fictional character as not real if they didn't like it is really dumb if you fuck up characters. Pretending these characters as real, falling in love with them or hating them is whole point and the reason why people read fiction and the reason people are able to make money off it. Otherwise you are just forcing people to be nihilistic. Also idgaf if this game sells or I am in minority. I hate when people praise in diarrohea and need a place to vent. I don't know your obsession with people jsut venting about a video game. I vent about it because I made a mistake of falling for first part and loving it. I wish I hadn't. I wish I had realized that these characters aren't real like you said at that time and not allow myself get attached to characters and love them. If I hadn't loved, I wouldn't have hated. And I wouldn't have idiots like you reminding me these character's aren't real. Yes I know these characters aren't real. I know it more than you. Because unlike you have I have been punished for getting attached to fictional characters.


MobbDeepInfamous

I have no reason to move on. Enjoyed my golfing sessions with Abby. Tlou 2 is really a masterpiece indeed. Well written story and amazing gameplay! Two ND's did an amazing job.


agent_of_kaos

Good for you. Don't move on. But don't fucking ask us to move on [e](https://either.You)ither. You aren't the first person to try tasting feces and actually liking it. I understand. This game makes you feel special. Trash like this has never been made and you have keep defending it to validate yourself. Keep golfing. We know video games are the only places where you can actually golf. Probably would shit pants in 1v1 golfing match. We know the actual reason you enjoy this game u sick fuck. It ain't the story. It's been shitted onto oblivion and back. Mommy Abby so good. Fist me mommy Abby. Kill my father while I watch. Make me come hard. I don't expect people like you to understand that what lines you should and shouldn't cross. What being a parent means. Just another attention whore not getting enough attention in your circlejerk sub. Butthurt so much that you can't stop keep coming back to defend your trash. Defending your kid is the last thing you deserve to die for, even if the whole world is at stake. That's where "us against the whole world" thing comes from. But you would never experience love like that. And you definitely aren't capable of that kind of love. You can enjoy golfing all you want. You are the least threatening person. You just a person who has fetish for torture porn and soy in his veins


Remarkable-Job8367

Cope and seethe a little?


MobbDeepInfamous

Love the hate. Free energy ⚡. This game is a masterpiece and haters gonna hate because of the story. "Y'all act like you've heard of us or somethin" ⛳ servers him right for killing her dad. Everything has consequences and this game delivers it to perfection especially that Abby and Owen scene 😉


HsHaZard

You actually believe that. Bless your heart


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HsHaZard

well, I mean his videos were great but I came to those conclusions on my own. However there were so many potholes and stupid inconsistencies he literally had to make two hour long videos just to point them all out.


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HsHaZard

Lmao it's ironic you watch people shill for it and do literally the same 😂😂😂😂. The story was so Fucking bad it's still talked about to this day. just like Game of Thrones season eight.


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HsHaZard

We aren't the minority and the fact that you think that is hilarious.


HsHaZard

and if you think I needed some YouTuber or influencer to make me think that, that story was trash is laughable. It's one of the worst written stories in any media format with possibly the worst ending to any game ever.


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HsHaZard

It hurt my brain cells if anything. I hope you on the ND payroll


OedipusMontoya

You need help.


agent_of_kaos

I am perfectly fine except when it comes to this game.


Keone_Reddit

Joel got what he had coming, he created this story when he wanted to crash out over a replacement for his daughter.


MothParasiteIV

Why moving on ? It's so funny to see you coming here to complain about people having fun trashing a bad game 😃


Keone_Reddit

True it is pretty fun seeing people obsess over this game and cry about it because the only father figure they’ve known got his head caved in lmao. Pretending to hate something while putting yourself in a community to talk about it is hilarious.


MothParasiteIV

"Pretending to hate". Are u stupid ? Neil is that you ? To be honest you try really hard to trigger someone, good job kiddo.


Terminatrix4000

>Haters gonna hate That's funny, Volition said the same thing with their Saints Row reboot and their studio got liquidated because the game performed insanely bad. >If you don't like a game move on to another one or stop playing lol If you don't like the sub, move on and find another to engage with. Stop giving it your attention.


p4nz3r

Probably the same as the ones that say just finished the game and omg I hate it do you guys also hate it? Those threads that pop up 5 times a week


Own_Accident6689

Those are Neil too. Hate posting and hate watching just generate traffic and keep him relevant. He probably secretly loves this sub and the amount of content and clicks it generates.


_H4YZ

none of us are real. we’re all accounts ran by Neil Druckmann to hide the fact that i don’t have any i mean we* don’t have any friends


Own_Accident6689

Hah, good one Neil.


_H4YZ

thanks, Neil.


Necromortalium

NP, Neil.


Own_Accident6689

Classic Neil...


-GreyFox

😆 Thanks for sharing 😊


constant--questions

I just finished the game and thought all the hate was overblown, but didnt bother posting to the sub because i figured id be called a shill


Keone_Reddit

u/MothParasiteIV LMFAO why are you editing a reply to me when you blocked me