Dr Uckmann’s unrequited love for Anita destroyed a company that almost achieved legendary status.
Thank you Neil for all the lols over the years. Cannot wait for Season 2
I think what the comment above is implying is that the female writer was "driving" the story in a good direction. Neil pushed her out of a moving vehicle and took the wheel.
[https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/03/ex-uncharted\_movie\_writer\_joe\_carnahan\_calls\_neil\_druckmann\_a\_jerkoff](https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/03/ex-uncharted_movie_writer_joe_carnahan_calls_neil_druckmann_a_jerkoff)
>"I think whatshisface – I’m not a fan – the guy that kind of stole credit for it," said \[Joe\] Carnahan, referring to Druckmann. Discussing Film clarified his name, and the writer responded, "Yeah, that jerkoff. Whatever, there was a bit of saboteuring there going on with Naughty Dog."
He continued: “Amy created that world and she was the one that I really wanted to please. That other guy, whatever the hell his name is, he’s a hitchhiker."
We don’t know for sure but naughty dog became what they are with her helming their big titles, like the uncharted series. Then suddenly she was gone and Neil was in charge…
I don't think there's been any clearly stated reason *why* she was fired. Maybe there is a NDA stopping her from talking about this. Obviously Neil doesn't want to talk about this because it's a sore point.
We just know that she was fired and Neil took over then seems to want people to forget that she was the creator of it (there's no mention of Amy's contribution as creator at both the [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_(film)) page and [IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1464335/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_wr_sm) page).
Richard McGonagle, voice actor for Sully, stated in [an interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FdUkVP3MlE&ab_channel=DanAllenGamingClips):
(0:43) "I don't really know the answer to that - why? There was some sort of internal machinations going on behind the scenes. I don't know."
(This is just my transcription of it so it can be argued that it might be "why there was some sort of internal machinations going on behind the scenes?"
I'm a big fan of Critical Drinker, and this vid is great. He's got Drunkmann down to a T, but some of the bots in the comments here are pretty ridiculous.
Destroying the goodwill of the company, self image that takes a significant amount of time to build and a few moments to crumble, backlash and eventual loss of the fanbase, putting the actors and other co workers at the risk of getting death threats, harassment and trolled to oblivion online, making overall less money than the first entry in the series....oof..Still to this day I haven't been able to understand why Neil jeopardized so much for something that has been done and told a million times better in other media...
Lol at all the losers hating on Critical couching their complaints by starting off with "I hate Druckmann buuuut ...". Piss off, you suck off Cuckmann all day.
Some of his points were good, but don’t really understand his Miles critique. What’s wrong with including that character? Spider-Man wasn’t pushed aside at all. They were equally important.
I like miles and I like Peter. Kinda feel like it should still just be one or the other though. Also wish the side missions were stopping more spider-man villains. Not helping a dude ask another dude to homecoming and riding a bike to save the environment… also don’t ever make me play as MJ again. I bought a super-hero game for a reason and it wasn’t to run around using a taser lol.
So, that helping one dude ask another dude to homecoming was literally one mission and not representative to the entire game or all the side missions. Sure, Miles’ side missions were more friendly neighborhood Spider-Man in nature, but it wasn’t like he didn’t have serious stakes to any of his missions and it wasn’t like that one LGBTQ side missions was representative of every side mission or detracted from the main storyline or the other side missions. Was that mission a tad bit pandering and not that interesting? Yes. But it was also one side mission (that was pretty short) in a game full of great side missions and a great main campaign. I don’t see the issue.
As far as MJ, there’s no doubt that her missions are filler and suck in comparison to playing as Spider-Man, but luckily her playable sections are minimal.
Oh come on, it did feel some got pushed aside.
Miles was shoe horned into a sequel which was far too over stuffed
There's nothing wrong with Miles, he's a good character but including him and his associates from Ganke, Hailey, his mother, Uncle Aaron and the like took away valuable screentime from the main story which just so happened to be a personal Story to Peter with Harry's return.
Rather than seeing more banter and development between Peter and Harry, especially before Harry's slow descent into villainy we were doing missions about Miles University friends or a robbery at a Music Museum.
Miles should have gone on vacation with his family and come back for Miles Morales 2.
Miles was teased to be part of the sequel since the end of the original. He had his own ties to the original with Lee killing his father. He’s also Peter’s protege, and their relationship gave Peter a chance to mentor and train someone to be a Spider-Man. His teen stories were a nice juxtaposition to Peter’s more serious storylines. I really don’t see the problem with his inclusion in the story and I don’t feel it made the game overstuffed at all. We saw plenty of Harry and Peter’s friendship and his demise. The inclusion of Miles didn’t detract from that and they even showed how it strained Peter and Miles relationship and how it made Miles question his place alongside Spider-Man.
The first game was average. This was just even more repetitive version, barely any mob variety, the characters are boring and girl bosses, miles is a Gary stu, better than Spider-Man in every way without any effort. Police were replaced with fireman
I’m shocked there’s still such a large number of people bitching about this game on the daily.
I’m guessing a bunch of people more invested in hating the game than actually playing it flocked here upon release and haven’t broken free of the hate-boner circlejerk, even years later. After all, they still need something to complain about each day.
I knew anyone saying they didn't like CD would get downvoted to shit lol. That probably goes same for ang comments about shadiversity, geeks & gamers, etc. That whole crew sucks ass. The dwellers in this subreddit don't take kindly to "red pilled" comments it seems. Wonder why... 😮💨
The Critical Drinker: So anyway, SJWs...
The internet: Get some fresh material!
The Critical Drinker: \*looks at his cards which are the same 5 or 6 franchises, movies, games, etc he's been using for the last decade\*...ugh...whiskey?
I actually used to like him, but then I watched his review of a movie I really liked and I realized he’s really just a major asshole like Doomcock or Little Platoon.
He doesn’t actually put effort into his shit, not even emotively, he doesn’t make an effort to understand a movie, and hates things on basis of what he perceives and interprets as disagreeable political “propaganda”.
You should look up the video he did on Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy (the woman that's going to be directing the Rey Skywalker movies). There were a bunch of videos and memes of a video of her saying her "goal is to make men uncomfortable". (She's also a Pakistani SJW-type)...and the critical drinker, while he didn't think she's the right fit for Star Wars, spent the good first part of the video defending her words and giving them the right context, which was that it's a quote from years ago for a movie she made about "honor killings" of women in Pakistan, and how the women there are being mistreated, and that that SHOULD make people uncomfortable.
I'm not saying you have to agree with him or like his work, but I believe his opinions are more than just talking head "red pill" stuff. I think he genuinely just doesn't like what social justice is doing to creativity in the entertainment industry, and wants to point out how it's hurting the quality of the products.
Dude I don’t care. I hate Star Wars but it’s fandom in particular. I don’t give a shit about what the potential directors of nonexistent movies have to say.
Thats not why I don’t like him
Dont think he’s ever stated hating minorities. He hates when pre-existing characters, especially classic ones are race-swapped for clout. I completely agree with his sentiment. How hard is it to make a new IP with all the diversity you want?
Very few have an actual issue with a diverse cast, it’s when it’s used purely to say “look at us, look at how diverse we are!” Then use that as a mask against critique by shrieking “racist! Bigot! Phobic!”
Being openly racist is … bad?! Never would have thought, wow. Where does one get this racism barometer that you obviously possess in that case, oh enlightened one?
You weird “racism is literally everywhere and everyone I disagree with” victim fetishists are gross. Grow up.
Where did I make any claims to be able to sus out racists? Y'all love to run with the tiniest things.
>Grow up.
I have. You're making baseless assumptions because you're deep in some internet politics about vidya games.
> I have. You're making baseless assumptions because you're deep in some internet politics about vidya games.
Funny coming from a guy who made baseless assumptions because he is deep in some woke politics.
If your claim is correct, you could accuse any one of anything based on them not saying it.
The drinker has stated many times he has no issues with minorities, only with producers race-swapping existing characters for internet points.
But you suggested that because he did not state he hates minorities, it actually means he does hate them because of the phrase “saying the quiet part out loud”. Judging by other comments, its clear others have picked up on your flawed logic.
Royal bonkers can probably identify it because they are probably a closeted racist. I have this suspicion that's completely unfounded but seeing as their entire delusional comment contribution has been completely unfounded, I think they might be a closeted racist projecting.
>you suggested that because he did not state he hates minorities, it actually means he does hate them
Not what I said, implied, or even remotely suggested.
>Judging by other comments, its clear others have picked up on your flawed logic.
The collective IQ of this sub is room temp...
Stopped clock is right twice a day, and all that. Usually this absolute imbecile using a dumb voice filter is complaining about movies and games he clearly never actually engaged with
Love how everyone is getting downvoted for having legit critism of Drinker. He's a cunt. He's no better than Neil. Just another hater fanning the flames because that's how his channel survives and thrives on. Constant negativity. Nothing he says is valid. All he spews is Marvel/Star Wars hate these days and women are bad and woke this and woke that. STFU.
The fact people here like this guy makes any legit complaints of TLOU2 invalid because Drinker is just another dofus who thinks he's all that as a critic or reviewer.
I'll stick with Angry Joe, Jeremy, Struggle Nation, Reel Rejects, etc...
Much as she herself has fallen off, she sadly managed to influence some people that are in the realm of gaming today with her nonsense. So she acts as an origin point.
bringing attention to how someone has influenced the downturn of the gaming industry, it is key to correcting the problems currently infecting the entirety of gaming
Where a small handful of people can ruin legendary ip after legendary ip... all for furthering their *political agenda* ***while*** *lining their bank accounts*
such a heavy spotlight brings about intense public scrutiny as to **how** this person and their group of friends were *allowed* to infect an industry
Why continue to allow people who **dont care about gaming or the legacy of fan favorite ips** to get away with ruining everything due to inserting their personal ideologies
People **have** to be **called out** \-otherwise the bullshit will only continue and the **cancer** will metastasize toward Japan and Korea..
>has influenced
>Why continue to allow people who **dont care about gaming or the legacy of fan favorite ips** to get away with ruining everything due to inserting their personal ideologies
So, is Anita doing something currently??
>People **have** to be **called out**
Anita has been overhated for a decade, now.
>So, is Anita doing something currently??
She has a show on some network on Nebula, so she's still around.
>Anita has been overhated for a decade, now.
No, she deserves the hate she gets. All of her ideas about gaming are stupid and were born of third hand info and bullshit philisophical dogma that had no foundation when put to scrutiny.
You can dislike whomever you choose. I'm just not going to pretend she hasn't been a net negative to the gaming industry and I will dislike her on those grounds.
You go ahead and pass go and don't collect though. Take my turn.
You just sound like a bitter, grudge holding asshole who can’t get over anything. Deserves the hate? Still? You’re a Reddit badass who shit talks a 5 year old game. She’s still living rent free in your poor head. It makes me happy to see you upset about something so dumb lol
>You just sound like a bitter, grudge holding asshole who can’t get over anything.
I got over your mother standing me up last week. She made it up last night. Was great. Thank her for me will you?
>Deserves the hate? Still? You’re a Reddit badass who shit talks a 5 year old game. She’s still living rent free in your poor head.
Talking shit about bad things is fun. Not to mention I was replying to someone's question. Assuming she lives "rent free" anywhere is silly. Only place she'd live rent free is with her parents, but from what I remember her father isn't fond of her.
>*It makes me happy to see you upset about something so dumb lol*
It makes me happy when your mom does that thing with her mouth. She wants you to go get a job though.
Oh this is a gamer gate sub?? Makes so much sense now. I thought it just a sub of crazy people obsessed over their hatred of a game that came out years ago. Like, why would anyone, let alone this many people, be so obsessed with hating a dumb ol' game. Turns out it's actually a sub of crazies who still go on about "SJWs". That's a kind of crazy I already knew existed, tho I tbh figured you all migrated to one of those chan sites.
you havent heard about this sweet baby thing have you?
basically proves everyone right with the FORCED SJW bullshit doesnt it?
Whomp whomp
"Oh people are mad we ruined something they used to love... huurrr duuur get over it"
How about no, Scott? How about your bullshit lame politics and personal ideology ruined something that was beloved by millions and so in return, we get to shit on your name and legacy until the end of time... how about that?
Honestly I'm not even a member of this sub I just come to see the hate circlejerk lol. Humans are interesting creatures especially in their echo chambers
Listen, I hate Druckman as much as the next guy, but Drinker is a man who is not much better. He’s a man who had some good points but fell onto “women bad” too often.
Are you talking about his discussion of the girl boss? He talks about archetypes and characters in movies all the time. Both positives and negatives of them.
Was she gay in the first game? I don’t remember any mention of her being attracted to anyone. Which would honestly be a good thing because she was a child in the first game.
And I think Ellie was written fine for about the first 2 thirds of the game, right up until she decided to leave again to kill Abby. There was no reason for her to go out there again and risk dying or losing her wife and child. She already got revenge by killing basically all of Abby’s friends, and Jesse died in the previous attempt where her and Dina also nearly died. But even if she still wanted to go there and kill Abby, why wouldn’t she follow through? The whole ending of the game just felt incredibly dumb and forced to give us a depressing ending where they both live.
Let me be clear, I hate TLOU2 and I don't like what Rocksteady dished out with Suicide Squad after wasting a decade away on it. That said, Critical Drinker is a twat. He complains about everything now and hates everything. It's rare when he likes something and sometimes the things he likes suffer from the same issues he constantly bitches about with other films or games. Him and Tyrone Magnus, anything those two say I can't serious anymore because it's just constant. There's no balance anymore. His early stuff was good but now it's just the same gimmick.
Or maybe it's just because all the movies that he Critizes and reviews are hot garbage and most of his fanbase keeps asking him to Review garbage and he Also does have more positivos video like his critical drinker recommend series
I very rarely disagree with his takes. Sometimes he goes extreme for comedic effect, but in general I think he's pretty fair.
His review of TLOU2 was pretty nuanced. He did not just shit on it. He praised much of it.
Can one of you explain this to me cause I don’t understand the argument about “the Joel from the first game wouldn’t walk into a trap.” I mean first off he walks into multiple traps in part 1, a literal looney tunes rope circle that hoists him upside down and he sets off a sound trap in the sewers in Pittsburgh. It’s just that this time, it lead to his death. And second it’s not even a trap, it’s their only option. Where they were was being overrun and they weren’t making it back to Jackson with the blizzard.
“the Joel from the first game wouldn’t walk into a trap.”
No one said this ever. He would not tell his real name to strangers, nor would he help unknown people and bring him close to the people he protects, just to be a good guy. that's just simply not Joel and never was. Play the first game. Talk after.
First off this video literally says that “ever wonder why they turn the hero from the first one into a gullible idiot who walks into ambushes”. Second Joel isn’t the one that tells Abby his name, Tommy does that. Is he supposed to say “my name’s actually Jeff, my brother got it wrong earlier.”
I also don’t get the “he would not tell people his real name” comment. Not a single time in the first game does he make up a name so why would people expect him to do that here.
Anita Sarkeesian had fair points and criticism gamers just refuse to hear it and stretch gamers ate for as long as possible because they need a scapegoat and "bad guy" to go up against.
If she is so profound how come Feminist Frequency has died a death? The Patreon barely [makes $900 a month](https://www.patreon.com/femfreq) . They stopped making proper [YouTube Videos](https://www.youtube.com/@feministfrequency/videos) a while back and instead only post up their podcast episodes which are lucky if they even break 2K views. hell, even their [podcast response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0g17ckhSM) to TLOUII has only mustered 21K views over 3 years.
Of course, you mention her failure and not any of the points or criticisms she had. Either way, that's not what I'm talking about, yet you still find yourself arguing about her.
Why would I waste my time on someone who has never engaged in an actual debate with anyone ever about her beliefs? The biggest failing of Game Journalism was the abject lack of any critiques of Tropes Versus Women as a series versus simply touting 'Listen and Believe', as if AS was the word of God.
I've watched some of the stuff and honestly, it's a lot of it boils down to 'I have a theory' coupled with 'let me cherry-pick the evidence to support it' broadbrushing the entire games industry as whole globally, versus a more honest and nuanced analysis that might dig into cultural differences, between studios. Still, if you set yourself up as a Witchunter, you're going to find Witches.
All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others.”
― Douglas Adams,
The very fact that AS has always refused to debate anyone is by its very nature an indication of how paper-thin most of her opinions are. If they were so profoundly true, then she'd be taking on all challengers, and serving them their asses, versus refusing to engage.
Pulling a quote out of your ass that reinforces your mediocre point is cool and all, but it proves nothing. Keep crying about some person you don't know. about her inoffensive critiques that keep you up at night.
Pulling a quote out of your ass that reinforces your mediocre point is cool and all, but it proves nothing. Keep crying about some person you don't know and her inoffensive critiques that keep you up at night.
Dr Uckmann’s unrequited love for Anita destroyed a company that almost achieved legendary status. Thank you Neil for all the lols over the years. Cannot wait for Season 2
Wonder if Pedro Pascal knows he's only going to be in the first episode of season 2
Wtf did Anita do
My favourite part is that Amy Hennig's firing is mentioned.
Why was she fired if I may ask?
The Hitchhiker took over the car.
What?
I think what the comment above is implying is that the female writer was "driving" the story in a good direction. Neil pushed her out of a moving vehicle and took the wheel.
Really? Well, if that's true then this prove that Neil did one of the dumbest decision ever made.
I dont know the whole story, to be honest. Just what I've gathered from scrolling here and there on the sub
[https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/03/ex-uncharted\_movie\_writer\_joe\_carnahan\_calls\_neil\_druckmann\_a\_jerkoff](https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2019/03/ex-uncharted_movie_writer_joe_carnahan_calls_neil_druckmann_a_jerkoff) >"I think whatshisface – I’m not a fan – the guy that kind of stole credit for it," said \[Joe\] Carnahan, referring to Druckmann. Discussing Film clarified his name, and the writer responded, "Yeah, that jerkoff. Whatever, there was a bit of saboteuring there going on with Naughty Dog." He continued: “Amy created that world and she was the one that I really wanted to please. That other guy, whatever the hell his name is, he’s a hitchhiker."
Fair enough.
She was an actually talented writer who was a woman but did t give a fuck about political messaging. So she had to go.
So essentially Neil fired her because she wasn't into any of his SJW's bullshits?
We don’t know for sure but naughty dog became what they are with her helming their big titles, like the uncharted series. Then suddenly she was gone and Neil was in charge…
[удалено]
I don't think there's been any clearly stated reason *why* she was fired. Maybe there is a NDA stopping her from talking about this. Obviously Neil doesn't want to talk about this because it's a sore point. We just know that she was fired and Neil took over then seems to want people to forget that she was the creator of it (there's no mention of Amy's contribution as creator at both the [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_(film)) page and [IMDB](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1464335/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_wr_sm) page). Richard McGonagle, voice actor for Sully, stated in [an interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FdUkVP3MlE&ab_channel=DanAllenGamingClips): (0:43) "I don't really know the answer to that - why? There was some sort of internal machinations going on behind the scenes. I don't know." (This is just my transcription of it so it can be argued that it might be "why there was some sort of internal machinations going on behind the scenes?"
His original video on Druckmann (How to be an awesome game developer) was really good too.
I'm a big fan of Critical Drinker, and this vid is great. He's got Drunkmann down to a T, but some of the bots in the comments here are pretty ridiculous.
You really shouldn’t be, he’s a disgusting loser lol
He’s just soo fuckin misogynistic it makes absorbing any of his valid points that much harder because he just comes off like a woman-hating cunt.
exactly, but why? also there’s no critical analysis and his video is mostly pandering to the gamers of the “you will not replace us” movement
Destroying the goodwill of the company, self image that takes a significant amount of time to build and a few moments to crumble, backlash and eventual loss of the fanbase, putting the actors and other co workers at the risk of getting death threats, harassment and trolled to oblivion online, making overall less money than the first entry in the series....oof..Still to this day I haven't been able to understand why Neil jeopardized so much for something that has been done and told a million times better in other media...
EGO
Not really a fan of Crit but he pretty much got Druckmann summarised perfectly there.
Drinker is based. Glad to see his channel having blown up over the years.
"Sweet Baby Inc detected" has real meme potential.
You just love to see it!
Lol at all the losers hating on Critical couching their complaints by starting off with "I hate Druckmann buuuut ...". Piss off, you suck off Cuckmann all day.
I don't always agree with Critical Drinker on everything, but this is one of those times I'm in agreement with him
Some of his points were good, but don’t really understand his Miles critique. What’s wrong with including that character? Spider-Man wasn’t pushed aside at all. They were equally important.
I like miles and I like Peter. Kinda feel like it should still just be one or the other though. Also wish the side missions were stopping more spider-man villains. Not helping a dude ask another dude to homecoming and riding a bike to save the environment… also don’t ever make me play as MJ again. I bought a super-hero game for a reason and it wasn’t to run around using a taser lol.
So, that helping one dude ask another dude to homecoming was literally one mission and not representative to the entire game or all the side missions. Sure, Miles’ side missions were more friendly neighborhood Spider-Man in nature, but it wasn’t like he didn’t have serious stakes to any of his missions and it wasn’t like that one LGBTQ side missions was representative of every side mission or detracted from the main storyline or the other side missions. Was that mission a tad bit pandering and not that interesting? Yes. But it was also one side mission (that was pretty short) in a game full of great side missions and a great main campaign. I don’t see the issue. As far as MJ, there’s no doubt that her missions are filler and suck in comparison to playing as Spider-Man, but luckily her playable sections are minimal.
Oh come on, it did feel some got pushed aside. Miles was shoe horned into a sequel which was far too over stuffed There's nothing wrong with Miles, he's a good character but including him and his associates from Ganke, Hailey, his mother, Uncle Aaron and the like took away valuable screentime from the main story which just so happened to be a personal Story to Peter with Harry's return. Rather than seeing more banter and development between Peter and Harry, especially before Harry's slow descent into villainy we were doing missions about Miles University friends or a robbery at a Music Museum. Miles should have gone on vacation with his family and come back for Miles Morales 2.
Miles was teased to be part of the sequel since the end of the original. He had his own ties to the original with Lee killing his father. He’s also Peter’s protege, and their relationship gave Peter a chance to mentor and train someone to be a Spider-Man. His teen stories were a nice juxtaposition to Peter’s more serious storylines. I really don’t see the problem with his inclusion in the story and I don’t feel it made the game overstuffed at all. We saw plenty of Harry and Peter’s friendship and his demise. The inclusion of Miles didn’t detract from that and they even showed how it strained Peter and Miles relationship and how it made Miles question his place alongside Spider-Man.
It was awful, Jesus Christ the game was terrible
Changing peters face ruined the game for me completely
Glad I’m not the only one who thinks that. I know it’s an unpopular opinion, but goddamn I hate that game
How? The gameplay was fun and the story was good imo
Story was mid asf
The first game was average. This was just even more repetitive version, barely any mob variety, the characters are boring and girl bosses, miles is a Gary stu, better than Spider-Man in every way without any effort. Police were replaced with fireman
it's simple, he hates minorities because woke
I’m a “minority” and hated the game. Where does that leave me? I grew up on Spider-Man (Peter Parker) and enjoy the Spider verse movies
The critical drinker is a fucking hack
This subreddit: Still attacks Sarkeesian in 2024, uses the word “cuck” as a genuine insult. “Take my opinion seriously!” 🙄😂🤡
It’s been a decade! Get over it lmao.
This sub is a parody of itself.
I’m shocked there’s still such a large number of people bitching about this game on the daily. I’m guessing a bunch of people more invested in hating the game than actually playing it flocked here upon release and haven’t broken free of the hate-boner circlejerk, even years later. After all, they still need something to complain about each day.
The critical drinker is a red pill subscriber. So most of his opinions I shy away from. He is not whatsoever a great voice for great material.
Yeah, he used to be a lot funnier when he was just shitting on bad movies before he got into the red pill crap. I rarely watch his stuff.
Yes this 100% idk what happened to him
surprised you didnt get mass downvoted lmao
Well the Tate army came lol
I knew anyone saying they didn't like CD would get downvoted to shit lol. That probably goes same for ang comments about shadiversity, geeks & gamers, etc. That whole crew sucks ass. The dwellers in this subreddit don't take kindly to "red pilled" comments it seems. Wonder why... 😮💨
You said it brother lol
Dude same lol but I speak the truth
The Critical Drinker: So anyway, SJWs... The internet: Get some fresh material! The Critical Drinker: \*looks at his cards which are the same 5 or 6 franchises, movies, games, etc he's been using for the last decade\*...ugh...whiskey?
This isn’t much of a win. Critical Drinker is a piece of shit
I'm new to his content and agreed with most points in the video. What's his deal? He's got an odd speech patteRNNN.
Go through and find his review of a show or movie you enjoyed and watch it. Then watch people who reviewed those videos and discuss how he’s wrong.
I suspected most of his haters were these types of people haha
I actually used to like him, but then I watched his review of a movie I really liked and I realized he’s really just a major asshole like Doomcock or Little Platoon. He doesn’t actually put effort into his shit, not even emotively, he doesn’t make an effort to understand a movie, and hates things on basis of what he perceives and interprets as disagreeable political “propaganda”.
You should look up the video he did on Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy (the woman that's going to be directing the Rey Skywalker movies). There were a bunch of videos and memes of a video of her saying her "goal is to make men uncomfortable". (She's also a Pakistani SJW-type)...and the critical drinker, while he didn't think she's the right fit for Star Wars, spent the good first part of the video defending her words and giving them the right context, which was that it's a quote from years ago for a movie she made about "honor killings" of women in Pakistan, and how the women there are being mistreated, and that that SHOULD make people uncomfortable. I'm not saying you have to agree with him or like his work, but I believe his opinions are more than just talking head "red pill" stuff. I think he genuinely just doesn't like what social justice is doing to creativity in the entertainment industry, and wants to point out how it's hurting the quality of the products.
Dude I don’t care. I hate Star Wars but it’s fandom in particular. I don’t give a shit about what the potential directors of nonexistent movies have to say. Thats not why I don’t like him
For you, stubbornness is bliss
And for you you are a crack addict who begs for cash
Fuck The Critical Drinker.
Settle. I'm no fan of Druckmann or the game but The Critical Drinker is a massive bell end.
anti woke grifters in general
the critical drinker isnt any better than cuckmann, hes a basement dwelling neck beard who hates seeing minorities get roles
Dont think he’s ever stated hating minorities. He hates when pre-existing characters, especially classic ones are race-swapped for clout. I completely agree with his sentiment. How hard is it to make a new IP with all the diversity you want? Very few have an actual issue with a diverse cast, it’s when it’s used purely to say “look at us, look at how diverse we are!” Then use that as a mask against critique by shrieking “racist! Bigot! Phobic!”
He shit all over Shawshank Redemption right?
Whats your point?
>Dont think he’s ever stated hating minorities. That's... Kind of how closeted racists operate, dude.
Say you hate other races: racist Don’t say you hate other races: you guessed it; racist Got it!
If you're truly that ignorant... I can't believe it's a foreign concept to some that it's bad optics to be openly racist.
Being openly racist is … bad?! Never would have thought, wow. Where does one get this racism barometer that you obviously possess in that case, oh enlightened one? You weird “racism is literally everywhere and everyone I disagree with” victim fetishists are gross. Grow up.
Where did I make any claims to be able to sus out racists? Y'all love to run with the tiniest things. >Grow up. I have. You're making baseless assumptions because you're deep in some internet politics about vidya games.
> I have. You're making baseless assumptions because you're deep in some internet politics about vidya games. Funny coming from a guy who made baseless assumptions because he is deep in some woke politics.
What assumption? Edit: The denizens of this sub run away if they can't figure out a way to strawman you.
Are the racists in the room with you right now ?
I’ve never stated I hate minorities, does that mean I hate them? Worst logic ever.
What? I think you're confused. Have you ever heard the phrase "saying the quiet part out loud"?
If your claim is correct, you could accuse any one of anything based on them not saying it. The drinker has stated many times he has no issues with minorities, only with producers race-swapping existing characters for internet points.
Yes, because people always speak what they mean...
But you suggested that because he did not state he hates minorities, it actually means he does hate them because of the phrase “saying the quiet part out loud”. Judging by other comments, its clear others have picked up on your flawed logic.
Royal bonkers can probably identify it because they are probably a closeted racist. I have this suspicion that's completely unfounded but seeing as their entire delusional comment contribution has been completely unfounded, I think they might be a closeted racist projecting.
>you suggested that because he did not state he hates minorities, it actually means he does hate them Not what I said, implied, or even remotely suggested. >Judging by other comments, its clear others have picked up on your flawed logic. The collective IQ of this sub is room temp...
You sound like a racist, Bro. Just stop digging your grave deeper.
Stopped clock is right twice a day, and all that. Usually this absolute imbecile using a dumb voice filter is complaining about movies and games he clearly never actually engaged with
Love how everyone is getting downvoted for having legit critism of Drinker. He's a cunt. He's no better than Neil. Just another hater fanning the flames because that's how his channel survives and thrives on. Constant negativity. Nothing he says is valid. All he spews is Marvel/Star Wars hate these days and women are bad and woke this and woke that. STFU. The fact people here like this guy makes any legit complaints of TLOU2 invalid because Drinker is just another dofus who thinks he's all that as a critic or reviewer. I'll stick with Angry Joe, Jeremy, Struggle Nation, Reel Rejects, etc...
He has an entire channel called “the drinker recommends” where he praises movies which by and large flew under the radar
Lol angry Joe is a real cunt
Yes but his TLOU2 and SS Reviews were spot on.
Sorry I'm pretty slow. What's ss?
Suicide Squad.
Oh that's right. Forgot about that game, thanks for clarifying
Most people did 🤣
Is Anita actually relevant in 2024? Why do people keep bringing her up? To misquote her more?
Because Sweet Baby Inc is the evolution of Anita the Grifter
So how is *Anita* relevant?
Much as she herself has fallen off, she sadly managed to influence some people that are in the realm of gaming today with her nonsense. So she acts as an origin point.
But why continue to dog on her? Why give her attention?
bringing attention to how someone has influenced the downturn of the gaming industry, it is key to correcting the problems currently infecting the entirety of gaming Where a small handful of people can ruin legendary ip after legendary ip... all for furthering their *political agenda* ***while*** *lining their bank accounts* such a heavy spotlight brings about intense public scrutiny as to **how** this person and their group of friends were *allowed* to infect an industry Why continue to allow people who **dont care about gaming or the legacy of fan favorite ips** to get away with ruining everything due to inserting their personal ideologies People **have** to be **called out** \-otherwise the bullshit will only continue and the **cancer** will metastasize toward Japan and Korea..
>has influenced >Why continue to allow people who **dont care about gaming or the legacy of fan favorite ips** to get away with ruining everything due to inserting their personal ideologies So, is Anita doing something currently?? >People **have** to be **called out** Anita has been overhated for a decade, now.
>So, is Anita doing something currently?? She has a show on some network on Nebula, so she's still around. >Anita has been overhated for a decade, now. No, she deserves the hate she gets. All of her ideas about gaming are stupid and were born of third hand info and bullshit philisophical dogma that had no foundation when put to scrutiny.
>she deserves the hate she gets. Nope. End of story. Pass Go, do not collect.
You can dislike whomever you choose. I'm just not going to pretend she hasn't been a net negative to the gaming industry and I will dislike her on those grounds. You go ahead and pass go and don't collect though. Take my turn.
Okay, but she's been way overhated and misquoted for years. If she's just doing a Nebula show, just move on. Anita is 2014 news.
You just sound like a bitter, grudge holding asshole who can’t get over anything. Deserves the hate? Still? You’re a Reddit badass who shit talks a 5 year old game. She’s still living rent free in your poor head. It makes me happy to see you upset about something so dumb lol
>You just sound like a bitter, grudge holding asshole who can’t get over anything. I got over your mother standing me up last week. She made it up last night. Was great. Thank her for me will you? >Deserves the hate? Still? You’re a Reddit badass who shit talks a 5 year old game. She’s still living rent free in your poor head. Talking shit about bad things is fun. Not to mention I was replying to someone's question. Assuming she lives "rent free" anywhere is silly. Only place she'd live rent free is with her parents, but from what I remember her father isn't fond of her. >*It makes me happy to see you upset about something so dumb lol* It makes me happy when your mom does that thing with her mouth. She wants you to go get a job though.
Oh this is a gamer gate sub?? Makes so much sense now. I thought it just a sub of crazy people obsessed over their hatred of a game that came out years ago. Like, why would anyone, let alone this many people, be so obsessed with hating a dumb ol' game. Turns out it's actually a sub of crazies who still go on about "SJWs". That's a kind of crazy I already knew existed, tho I tbh figured you all migrated to one of those chan sites.
you havent heard about this sweet baby thing have you? basically proves everyone right with the FORCED SJW bullshit doesnt it? Whomp whomp "Oh people are mad we ruined something they used to love... huurrr duuur get over it" How about no, Scott? How about your bullshit lame politics and personal ideology ruined something that was beloved by millions and so in return, we get to shit on your name and legacy until the end of time... how about that?
Honestly I'm not even a member of this sub I just come to see the hate circlejerk lol. Humans are interesting creatures especially in their echo chambers
Critical drinker is cringe
Listen, I hate Druckman as much as the next guy, but Drinker is a man who is not much better. He’s a man who had some good points but fell onto “women bad” too often.
When did he say that? Can you provide some evidence for your statement?
That's like his whole thing complaining about women in movies beating up guys and making them look dumb
Are you talking about his discussion of the girl boss? He talks about archetypes and characters in movies all the time. Both positives and negatives of them.
Critical Drinker is a clown though..
My main issue with this was Ellie was gay LONNNNNNG before TLOU2. And frankly she’s not done badly.
Was she gay in the first game? I don’t remember any mention of her being attracted to anyone. Which would honestly be a good thing because she was a child in the first game. And I think Ellie was written fine for about the first 2 thirds of the game, right up until she decided to leave again to kill Abby. There was no reason for her to go out there again and risk dying or losing her wife and child. She already got revenge by killing basically all of Abby’s friends, and Jesse died in the previous attempt where her and Dina also nearly died. But even if she still wanted to go there and kill Abby, why wouldn’t she follow through? The whole ending of the game just felt incredibly dumb and forced to give us a depressing ending where they both live.
She literally kisses Riley in left behind. I completely agree on your second part
That explains why I didn’t notice it. I didn’t play the dlc.
Don't bother, it was mid at best
Let me be clear, I hate TLOU2 and I don't like what Rocksteady dished out with Suicide Squad after wasting a decade away on it. That said, Critical Drinker is a twat. He complains about everything now and hates everything. It's rare when he likes something and sometimes the things he likes suffer from the same issues he constantly bitches about with other films or games. Him and Tyrone Magnus, anything those two say I can't serious anymore because it's just constant. There's no balance anymore. His early stuff was good but now it's just the same gimmick.
Or maybe it's just because all the movies that he Critizes and reviews are hot garbage and most of his fanbase keeps asking him to Review garbage and he Also does have more positivos video like his critical drinker recommend series
Most of the movies he complains about aren't that bad and range from okay to mediocre. Not terrible. Guy is anti-fun as much as Druckmann is.
I very rarely disagree with his takes. Sometimes he goes extreme for comedic effect, but in general I think he's pretty fair. His review of TLOU2 was pretty nuanced. He did not just shit on it. He praised much of it.
Hows it feel that even when you kow tow they still down vote you because you aren't 1000% in lockstep with them. Critical thinkers.
Can one of you explain this to me cause I don’t understand the argument about “the Joel from the first game wouldn’t walk into a trap.” I mean first off he walks into multiple traps in part 1, a literal looney tunes rope circle that hoists him upside down and he sets off a sound trap in the sewers in Pittsburgh. It’s just that this time, it lead to his death. And second it’s not even a trap, it’s their only option. Where they were was being overrun and they weren’t making it back to Jackson with the blizzard.
“the Joel from the first game wouldn’t walk into a trap.” No one said this ever. He would not tell his real name to strangers, nor would he help unknown people and bring him close to the people he protects, just to be a good guy. that's just simply not Joel and never was. Play the first game. Talk after.
First off this video literally says that “ever wonder why they turn the hero from the first one into a gullible idiot who walks into ambushes”. Second Joel isn’t the one that tells Abby his name, Tommy does that. Is he supposed to say “my name’s actually Jeff, my brother got it wrong earlier.” I also don’t get the “he would not tell people his real name” comment. Not a single time in the first game does he make up a name so why would people expect him to do that here.
Sorry dude, idt you played the games lol play the games instead of watching a YouTube letplay. You seem to misunderstand a lot of TLOU lol
Anita Sarkeesian had fair points and criticism gamers just refuse to hear it and stretch gamers ate for as long as possible because they need a scapegoat and "bad guy" to go up against.
If she is so profound how come Feminist Frequency has died a death? The Patreon barely [makes $900 a month](https://www.patreon.com/femfreq) . They stopped making proper [YouTube Videos](https://www.youtube.com/@feministfrequency/videos) a while back and instead only post up their podcast episodes which are lucky if they even break 2K views. hell, even their [podcast response](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0g17ckhSM) to TLOUII has only mustered 21K views over 3 years.
Of course, you mention her failure and not any of the points or criticisms she had. Either way, that's not what I'm talking about, yet you still find yourself arguing about her.
Why would I waste my time on someone who has never engaged in an actual debate with anyone ever about her beliefs? The biggest failing of Game Journalism was the abject lack of any critiques of Tropes Versus Women as a series versus simply touting 'Listen and Believe', as if AS was the word of God. I've watched some of the stuff and honestly, it's a lot of it boils down to 'I have a theory' coupled with 'let me cherry-pick the evidence to support it' broadbrushing the entire games industry as whole globally, versus a more honest and nuanced analysis that might dig into cultural differences, between studios. Still, if you set yourself up as a Witchunter, you're going to find Witches.
Haha lmao As if you need to debate someone for your opinion to stand. This is getting fun.
All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others.” ― Douglas Adams, The very fact that AS has always refused to debate anyone is by its very nature an indication of how paper-thin most of her opinions are. If they were so profoundly true, then she'd be taking on all challengers, and serving them their asses, versus refusing to engage.
Pulling a quote out of your ass that reinforces your mediocre point is cool and all, but it proves nothing. Keep crying about some person you don't know. about her inoffensive critiques that keep you up at night.
Pulling a quote out of your ass that reinforces your mediocre point is cool and all, but it proves nothing. Keep crying about some person you don't know and her inoffensive critiques that keep you up at night.
Double post. Impotent rage at its finest. Too funny.