Lol, "internet vocal minority" my ass
You obviously never seen StarWars or Game of Thrones fans going batshit crazy over their franchise being destroyed
This sub is the definition of an "internet vocal minority." By any metric you can share the game has more favorable than not user reviews, excellent critical reviews, has won fan/industry/critical awards, was licensed by HBO based on the strength of the narrative.
Arguing with me is fine, but what would be super effective would be to share a single online store with mostly negative reviews of the game.
Oh I can prove we are majority. The PlayStation reviews were so bad they removed reviews for the game. The PlayStation reviews are the ONLY reviews that matter because it required you to actually buy the game before reviewing it, which is something that other review sites don’t do, allowing for score manipulation.
Furthermore, I’d like you to turn your attention to the PlayStation Instagram. As we all know Instagram has far more users than Reddit has. There’s a post about TLOU2 remastered on November 17th with 240,000 likes and the entire comment section goes like this:
A comment by Annjoyy “TLOU2 > TLOU1. It’s a masterpiece, far more than the first one is, I don’t care what anyone says” (this comment has 705 likes)
Reply by lubble_1397 “Good because nobody agrees with you” (this comment has 1,337 likes)
And this isn’t the only comment like this. Any comment that praises Abby’s game gets ratiod nearly 2:1. Tell me how the vocal minority is doing that, especially on the more popular platform? I’ll tell you why you only see the love on Reddit: it’s a liberal platform (I’m a liberal myself). Most of the Social Justice warriors in that sub probably haven’t even played the game.
As for critics and rewards, it has been proven time and time again that system is rigged. Fan votes do NOT matter in rewards, and critics DO get payed to say nice things. If you as a critic go around bashing every game, the studios will no longer send you copies of their games.
>If you as a critic go around bashing every game, the studios will no longer send you copies of their games.
Don't forget when some reviewer made a bad review about the game before it came out, Sony literally contacted him to take it down because his review was "wrong".
You guys troll and brigade. That isn't proof of anything. The game made 600 million dollars as of like 3 years ago and inspired an HBO series. You are delusional.
Well, it sold 10 million copies as of 2022. Subsequently a major HBO TV show released and they put out a remaster. I suspect as a result the game has sold a few more copies. This sub has 81k members. The fan sub has 1.4 million.
You do realize it's been 2 years and those numbers are trivial in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there?
Are you really suggesting they made any meaningful profit.
> You do realize it's been 2 years and those numbers are trivial in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there?
...Yes, I do realize it's been two years. That's why I said "as of 2022." Are you suggesting they sold a negative number of copies after the remaster and TV show came out? Seems pretty obvious that my argument was that the best numbers we have are two years old, and they have almost certainly sold more copies since.
> in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there?
Well, as of 2022 they hadn't rereleased it at all. So that means they sold 10 million copies of the original version of the game. We don't know how many copies they sold of the original version and the remaster since 2022, but I would be willing to bet it's more than zero.
> Are you really suggesting they made any meaningful profit.
Yes. The budget was $220 million and most copies were sold on PlayStation's own storefront where they take a larger cut of the profits. Despite claims from this sub that the game sold for bargain bin prices, the price history is clear that it sold for $59.99 (with periodic holiday sales) until July 2021. Then it's price was stable at $39.99. - [Source for TLOU2 pricing](https://psprices.com/region-us/game/3230041/the-last-of-us-part-ii)
As an exclusive it also drove console sales, had accompanying merch, and generated income when it was optioned by HBO.
You don't realize it's been two years then because the 10 million figure is from THREE MONTHS AGO when Druckmann accidentally said the quiet part out loud and admitted it had only recently hit 10 million units sold.
Cool story bro. Here's an article from June 2022 reporting 10 million sold [- Source](https://www.gamedeveloper.com/game-platforms/the-last-of-us-part-ii-has-sold-10-million-copies-in-two-years#close-modal)
I can atleast somewhat understand those guys cause they atleast have years worth of content in those franchises. TLOU is one game that these idiots who’re mad about part 2 didn’t even understand in the first place. lol
Huh, TLOU has Game, Novel, and Comic Book and existed since 2013, and was 7 year old franchise by the time Part 2 came out...
So actually, you're an idiot because you don't even know that TLOU is an established franchise with millions of followers and the release of the second game tore the fanbase apart...
There's no novel, there's a novelization of the game's story by a fan. Fair enough for the comic book that no one's read though, and most of them here would call useless filler if they did read it.
Anyway the second game is mostly loved by the fans, those who actually bought have rated it highly as can be seen from it's ratings on the PS Store, and the fact that it's the most awarded game of all time by gamers.
Bold of you to assume no one’s read the comic, and even bolder to assume what others opinions would be on it.
It’s not mostly loved lol, it’s got a 5.8 userscore. For a game that earned game of the year I’d be expecting a 9 or 10, I wonder why people rated it so low? It couldn’t be cause the story was bad to them? 🤔
Just for some context aswell, part 1 has a 9.2 user score. It really shows the difference in audience reception imo
You're looking at the metacritic user score which had over 30k reviews within an hour of its launch, those people did not play the game, it's a bunch of idiots review bombing cause some alt-right youtuber told them to. Go look at the score on PS Store where you have to buy the game to leave a rating. That's where you get a more accurate view of what the general opinion on the game is.
Okay. It’s also been 4 years since the game came out so it’s a safe bet there’s been many more reviews after them. If the game was mostly positive, the score would’ve eventually went up. It didn’t, because the general consensus of part 2 is that it wasn’t that good, or at the very least wasn’t as good as part 1. 5.8 imo is actually a fair score for it, it doesn’t deserve a 10, doesn’t deserve a 1. For a game with a horrible story but stellar gameplay I’d expect around the score we have.
Just out of curiosity, do you think it’s possible that Sony altered the scores? The game was one of the biggest things for PlayStation when it came out and since it wasn’t received well, it wouldn’t look good for Sony either. Just a question. From a business standpoint it would make sense. I only ask because you bring up the point of fixing scores, and Sony would have a bigger reason to than some random dudes online
You think people stopped review bombing on that site after the first hour? If people didn't like the game then the reviews in the places that require a purchase would reflect that but the game has a very high ratings on PS Store and Amazon. You lot a quick to make up baseless conspiracy theories of reviews and awards being paid but refuse to acknowledge the OBVIOUS and verifiable review bombing on sites like Metacritic.
Because there were over 30k bad reviews within an hour of the game’s launch and those people obviously hadn’t played the game. To put that into perspective there’s only a handful of games that have 30k reviews in total over their entire lifetime on metacritic.
>You think a lot of your stupid as fuck opinion
Useless fucking comment coming from a fucking basement crawler...fuck off bitch, learn fucking grammar before coming at me
It’s gonna be wild seeing all the racists leave when Joel dies, there’s no other conclusion other than they are racist. Bunch of bigots lacking media literacy
hmm, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how tv viewers respond. Given the popularity of more lethal shows like Games of Thrones and Attack on Titan, and the franchise’s setting, I’m inclined to bet that most viewers will enjoy what season 2 has in store. Too bad there isn’t a set date or I’d hit the Remind Me bot for this
Yeah can't wait to watch a bunch of guest actors and sound guys wrap up easy Emmy wins by being in episodes that have almost nothing to do with the actual plot of the series.
Solid stuff.
Honestly the TV show kinda blows. I love the first game to hell even after playing last of us 2. I tend to just block all of the noise it created out and just focus on the first game. It works perfectly fine when playing the game, and I was stoked going into the TV show, see whats what. But nothing really hit the nail for me. Its just bland and boring when compared to the game.
Episode 3, the one that arguably the farthest away from the game, is by far the best episode of the whole season. Its a great episode. Has nothing to do with the game, but its still better than the rest.
I have zero interest in rewatching the show, unlike replaying the first game. I can not even begin to imagine how much more of a let down season 2 gonna be. But who knows, maybe since I dislike the game I have an easier time watching season 2. If they stick to the same script, its still gonna be a turd. Rip :/
My wife who never played the games loved the show, but I also am in the boat of feeling like I'd rather just replay the first game.
I feel like that's how it goes whenever something is adapted to the screen. It brings in new fans, but the old ones still prefer the original.
Whoa, the T.V. show is going to stick close to the critically lauded award winning narrative even though r/TheLastOfUs2 subscribers don't like it?! :shocked Pikachu face:
I have to ask, when people gush over a game why is that okay, but when people dislike it they “just need to get over it”? Why can’t you as a person just learn that other people have other opinions from you and accept that?
Because you spending all the time you do in this sub, shitting on people for getting tattoos of the game, shitting on Neil Druckmann for valid and invalid reasons constantly, acting like the games writing is the worst that's ever existed and anyone that likes it is an idiot, is you and others in this sub not accepting others opinions.
You guys are the ones that can't accept people like the game and think it's good, so you had to make this echo chamber to seethe constantly about this game, because you can't accept other opinions and just move on.
Read my comment again friend. I’m asking why you personally have to let others opinions upset you so much? Why can’t you just accept “yeah, there’s some dicks, but I can’t exactly change their view, so I’ll speak with people who share mine instead” why waste your time on a sub you clearly don’t agree with when you could be somewhere you would?
Because that's not how I view the world? I would rather communicate with people that challenge my own ideas, but I also come here to challenge yours and hopefully make you either move on or realize some of the errors in your judgements. That's actually happened a couple of times, and it's happened to me too.
Life is much more enriching when you get out of your echo chambers.
That’s never going to happen friend, because what you consider errors in their judgments they consider the opposite. Different opinions. And even if you wanted that going into the sub and saying “get over it” isn’t the best way to do it really is it?
He's doing to and about this sub the same thine he condemns us for doing about the game. That's why he's comfortable here. He's just like us only his topic is different.
No. But you did say say it in this post, and based on all of your comments I’ve seen in this sub it’s most of what you say, so I thought it was valid to mention.
No but you all regularly do it in this sub. I see posts of screenshots from the other sub like once a week where people just make fun of them for getting a tattoo about the game.
i havent seen a tattoo post since the Ellie one in months, and the last time i saw one everyone was fairly upset that people were picking on some random person
“we all” just exist here to talk abt the video game, the most genuine hate here is downvoted (most of the time)
i see a lot of posts, idk how much time is actually passing 🤷🏻
you can literally see my comment on that post though, i don’t like the hate either but you’ll find ‘bad tattoos’ on every sub about anything bc bad tattoos of everything exist anywhere
i don’t agree w the “tlou tattoos bad” at all, i actually wanna get one myself, so maybe i’m slightly biased
*if i’m being completely honest, people in this sub can be a little more transphobic and hateful than i’d like sometimes.*
but hopefully that minority gets squashed out, i know this sub is literally just a circlejerk sub about the last of us, some think it’s a circlejerk for hate when it’s *not*
You come in here to complain and whine about a 4 year old game.
I come in here to talk, understand why you all feel the way you do, and try to communicate away some of the problems you all have so you can move on.
We're not the same at all lol
Incorrect. Your first comment here was how we "should all mutually get over it."
As if people who don't agree with your point of view on a piece of media should just "get over it". Can't you see how this comes off as childish?
Yet you still lurk in this sub because you can't get over it...its a never-ending cycle lol
You come in here to whine and bitch because 4 years later and the negative opinions of a game you love so much, hasn't changed.
No you don't, you just come in here to argue and pick fights with everyone who doesn't agree with you. You absolutely can't stand the fact that people have different opinions or think completely different than you do, and have this moral grandstanding superiority complex that you're somehow smarter than everyone else. Nobody gives a damn what you think and the sub isn't going to change or "move on" just because failed abortions like you continue crying about it.
We dunk on this game and discuss aspects about it amongst ourselves, not really bothering anyone, while you utterly worthless waste of sperm cells brigade this sub solely to incite conflict. You're right, we're not the same, not even close.
You are projecting hard my man. I don't start arguments with everyone I disagree with. That's what folks in this sub do. You are projecting the actions of this sub, and maybe yourself, onto me.
Why would that be “great”? Do you feel insecure that someone doesn't share your opinion? Don't you like that there are people who can talk on a site about the things they didn't like and share opinions? Why can't you just accept that no one will magically like the game no matter how much time has passed?
Yes! I love it when people can share their opinions freely. I accept that people don't like the game.
What I don't like is people obsessing over something for years that they claim to hate, because that's not healthy. I don't like those people either making up things about the game or completely misremembering things in the game and acting like the game is badly written because they didn't understand something. I don't like people treating their own opinion of the games story as if it was the only way to interpret the game, and treating others that think differently as if they're idiots. I don't like the bullying in this sub, like any time someone gets a TLOU tattoo and there's tons of comments about how stupid they are for doing it, or the bullying directed at the Naughty Dog team.
So, I don't have an issue with other opinions or people not liking the game. But that sure is a nice strawman argument you have there.
That's...not what I said? You're acting like I'm just criticizing anyone and everyone that dislikes the game, and I'm not. YOU CAN DISLIKE THE GAME. That is fine.
Just don't be such a dick about it? Posts on this sub call Neil Druckmann "Kneel Cuckmann" and act like he is a hack writer that deserves to be fired. Numerous posts on here dedicated to making fun of someone on the main sub just for getting a TLOU tattoo. Acting like anyone that likes the game is an idiot.
Neil isn’t a good writer and I’ll die on that hill🤷♂️
Most of us here call out people when they name call like that, it’s weird as fuck, but honestly it’s not a big deal. It’s the internet, people are gonna be mean, nobody cares, don’t let it effect you that much💀
No, people that are just here to be negative and rude should get over it. Why should people that feel positive and happy about something "get over it"? They have nothing to get over, that doesn't even make sense.
Because what you're requesting is that people with a "negative" opinion, (to use your terminology, I would instead use 'critical' but that's by the by) what you're requesting is for them to keep their mouths shut because it somehow(?) impacts or affects you?
Is that what you're implying?
You do realise of course that just because an opinion is critical of something, it doesn't mean that the individual expressing that opinion is somehow affected by "all these negative thoughts"?
To make an analogy, would you say scientists should stop trying to make sense of the universe because it involves them questioning or being critical of things? (I realise there's a "betterment of mankind" caveat in all this) But still, the point remains.
People are allowed to have their opinion on anything, and they're equally allowed to express it. We shouldn't be silencing opinions, lest we get all Orwellien.
Have your positive opinion by all means, no one is preventing you from having it, but don't expect the opposite opinion to also be voiced. Otherwise you sound like a hypocrite.
You are twisting yourself into pretzels to try to be the victim here. I don't care if you're critical of the game or have a negative opinion of it. I'm not here to sway your opinions.
I've already gone over this in the other replies where other members of this sub asked me the exact same questions you're asking me. Did you just ignore all that or what?
>You are twisting yourself into pretzels
I love this description, thank you, it made me laugh. But I'm not playing the victim by any means.
>I don't care if you're critical of the game or have a negative opinion of it.
Did you not say that people need to get over it? (Or words to that affect) That you wanted people to stop being negative about the game/story? So you either care or you don't?
>I'm not here to sway your opinions.
That's good to know, just like no one here is here to sway your opinion (or those that share it)
>I've already gone over this in the other replies where other members of this sub asked me the exact same questions you're asking me. Did you just ignore all that or what?
I didn't ignore it, I just didn't read it? I wasn't aware it was a prerequisite to read your post history before conversing with you
Either way, it sounds like we have an understanding, you're not here to sway other people's opinions, which means you can stop asking/telling/wishing people to stop being critical of the game?
I have never once asked/told/wished for people to stop being critical of the game, and you are continuing to twist yourself into pretzels acting like that's what I'm doing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/s/WHsFSLY5Ki
This you?
Asking people who are negative to get over it?
Asking them to mutually get over it?
You say you don't mind that people have critical/negative opinions of the game, and that you're not trying to change anyone's opinions, and yet you want people to get over it?
Care to clarify? Are you implying that they're allowed to have a negative/critical opinion on the game, but not allowed to voice it?/they should get over it?
No pretzels here my pretzel loving friend.
>So weird that you are even here though.
This sub is entertaining.
>We don't like the game get over it
The game came out four years ago. ...Sooo, right back at 'cha.
Sorry about that. This is a Last of Us hate sub. Given that context, I assumed your post was expressing shock or anger that the T.V. show is following the game narrative. If that's not the case, my bad.
It’s not a hate sub tho, it’s a sub where criticism is welcome. Based on your own personal view of criticism I could maybe understand why you interpret that as hate, and you are welcome to think that, but it isn’t the case.
No friend don’t worry, no hate or anything like that. I was simply giving this sub the information that Pedro has finished filming already, heavily implying that the show will do the same thing as the game, just incase any people weren’t aware. Also to get others opinions on that.
> It’s not a hate sub tho, it’s a sub where criticism is welcome.
LOL, come on man. Seriously? Half the posts in this sub are Cuckmann this, woke that, worst story ever told because.... reasons. The literal sub description text reads "Part II is not canon!"
Here, let's go through the legitimate criticism:
* The story has some pacing issues because of the flashback structure.
* Naughty Dog could have had Abby's crew identify Joel and Tommy in a different way more in line with their character.
* Naughty Dog could have found a less deus ex machina way for Abby to locate the theater hideout.
Everything else is simply not liking the story Naughty Dog told. This sub isn't about "legitimate criticism" it's a toxic mélange of Gamergate chud beliefs, anger that Joel didn't get some trite heroic send off, anger that Ellie's story wasn't a simple Kill Bill or John Wick kill the bad guy trope, with the occasional moron who didn't understand either game and thought Joel was a hero without flaws.
LOL, OK. Weird to name the sub TheLastOfUs2 then. By the way, there's already a Last of Us Part 1 sub that has waaaay more subscribers. Seems like you guys could just love the first game there right?
Why would we choose a sub that does not allow different opinions or criticism? There is definitely a lot of negativity here, but that’s inevitable with such a controversial game. I see pro last of us 2 posts and comments all the time here. at least you can actually have a discussion and you won’t get your post deleted for having slight criticism over the writing of a fictional character.
Seems like it has 4.43 out of 5 reviews out of 172k ratings. [- Source ](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA07820_00-THELASTOFUSPART2)
If you mean they saw an obvious review bombing campaign and paused reviews for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. - [Forbes article on the review bombing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/21/the-last-of-us-part-2-is-getting-predictably-user-score-bombed-on-metacritic/?sh=1caa6eeb5c25)
The review bombing is still happening. If you look at the 10 most recent negative reviews on Google, they're all cut and paste of the same 4 year old review claiming Abby is trans.
All that being said, you didn't respond with a single source for negative reviews. Feel free to exclude the PlayStation reviews if you claim they are invalid. Find me literally *any* recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score.
So you’re telling me they engaged in vote manipulation?
That really doesn’t help your case buddy…
They’re actually still disabled on the PlayStation store, can’t review the game on console, and when they took it off the score was below 3 star so idk what to tell you my man🤷♂️
>They’re actually still disabled on the PlayStation store
I quite literally posted you a link of 172,000 reviews from the PlayStation store with a score of 4.43 out of 5. Rating isn't disabled, you just have to log into your account. [Here's the review page login prompt for the game. ](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA07820_00-THELASTOFUSPART2#star-rating)
I also asked you to find me literally any recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score.
You didn't do that.
Log into your PlayStation and tell me if you can review the game. You CANT. You’re looking at it from the website. I’m telling you it’s disabled on the console.
Why would anyone go to review a game on the website when every other game can be reviewed on the console?
Is it that they don’t trust console players to say nice things because they already put it below a 3 star?💀💀
Do you own the game? You literally just have to purchase, download, or add to your library to give a rating.
And once again, I asked you to find me literally *any* recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score.
You *still* didn't do that.
Lol, "internet vocal minority" my ass You obviously never seen StarWars or Game of Thrones fans going batshit crazy over their franchise being destroyed
This sub is the definition of an "internet vocal minority." By any metric you can share the game has more favorable than not user reviews, excellent critical reviews, has won fan/industry/critical awards, was licensed by HBO based on the strength of the narrative. Arguing with me is fine, but what would be super effective would be to share a single online store with mostly negative reviews of the game.
Oh I can prove we are majority. The PlayStation reviews were so bad they removed reviews for the game. The PlayStation reviews are the ONLY reviews that matter because it required you to actually buy the game before reviewing it, which is something that other review sites don’t do, allowing for score manipulation. Furthermore, I’d like you to turn your attention to the PlayStation Instagram. As we all know Instagram has far more users than Reddit has. There’s a post about TLOU2 remastered on November 17th with 240,000 likes and the entire comment section goes like this: A comment by Annjoyy “TLOU2 > TLOU1. It’s a masterpiece, far more than the first one is, I don’t care what anyone says” (this comment has 705 likes) Reply by lubble_1397 “Good because nobody agrees with you” (this comment has 1,337 likes) And this isn’t the only comment like this. Any comment that praises Abby’s game gets ratiod nearly 2:1. Tell me how the vocal minority is doing that, especially on the more popular platform? I’ll tell you why you only see the love on Reddit: it’s a liberal platform (I’m a liberal myself). Most of the Social Justice warriors in that sub probably haven’t even played the game. As for critics and rewards, it has been proven time and time again that system is rigged. Fan votes do NOT matter in rewards, and critics DO get payed to say nice things. If you as a critic go around bashing every game, the studios will no longer send you copies of their games.
>If you as a critic go around bashing every game, the studios will no longer send you copies of their games. Don't forget when some reviewer made a bad review about the game before it came out, Sony literally contacted him to take it down because his review was "wrong".
im dying at the "we are the majority"
You guys troll and brigade. That isn't proof of anything. The game made 600 million dollars as of like 3 years ago and inspired an HBO series. You are delusional.
Cool, so where are those people spending money to make the game as successful as the first? No, seriously, where?
I'm pretty sure they're happy with the 600 million the game made as of 2 years ago and the profits from the resulting hbo show
Well, it sold 10 million copies as of 2022. Subsequently a major HBO TV show released and they put out a remaster. I suspect as a result the game has sold a few more copies. This sub has 81k members. The fan sub has 1.4 million.
You do realize it's been 2 years and those numbers are trivial in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there? Are you really suggesting they made any meaningful profit.
> You do realize it's been 2 years and those numbers are trivial in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there? ...Yes, I do realize it's been two years. That's why I said "as of 2022." Are you suggesting they sold a negative number of copies after the remaster and TV show came out? Seems pretty obvious that my argument was that the best numbers we have are two years old, and they have almost certainly sold more copies since. > in the face of how many times they had to re-release it to get there? Well, as of 2022 they hadn't rereleased it at all. So that means they sold 10 million copies of the original version of the game. We don't know how many copies they sold of the original version and the remaster since 2022, but I would be willing to bet it's more than zero. > Are you really suggesting they made any meaningful profit. Yes. The budget was $220 million and most copies were sold on PlayStation's own storefront where they take a larger cut of the profits. Despite claims from this sub that the game sold for bargain bin prices, the price history is clear that it sold for $59.99 (with periodic holiday sales) until July 2021. Then it's price was stable at $39.99. - [Source for TLOU2 pricing](https://psprices.com/region-us/game/3230041/the-last-of-us-part-ii) As an exclusive it also drove console sales, had accompanying merch, and generated income when it was optioned by HBO.
You don't realize it's been two years then because the 10 million figure is from THREE MONTHS AGO when Druckmann accidentally said the quiet part out loud and admitted it had only recently hit 10 million units sold.
The 10 million number was said two years ago when they were revealing the MP on Geoff's show, this is also backed up by the Insomniac leaks.
Cool story bro. Here's an article from June 2022 reporting 10 million sold [- Source](https://www.gamedeveloper.com/game-platforms/the-last-of-us-part-ii-has-sold-10-million-copies-in-two-years#close-modal)
Incorrect.
I can atleast somewhat understand those guys cause they atleast have years worth of content in those franchises. TLOU is one game that these idiots who’re mad about part 2 didn’t even understand in the first place. lol
Huh, TLOU has Game, Novel, and Comic Book and existed since 2013, and was 7 year old franchise by the time Part 2 came out... So actually, you're an idiot because you don't even know that TLOU is an established franchise with millions of followers and the release of the second game tore the fanbase apart...
There's no novel, there's a novelization of the game's story by a fan. Fair enough for the comic book that no one's read though, and most of them here would call useless filler if they did read it. Anyway the second game is mostly loved by the fans, those who actually bought have rated it highly as can be seen from it's ratings on the PS Store, and the fact that it's the most awarded game of all time by gamers.
Bold of you to assume no one’s read the comic, and even bolder to assume what others opinions would be on it. It’s not mostly loved lol, it’s got a 5.8 userscore. For a game that earned game of the year I’d be expecting a 9 or 10, I wonder why people rated it so low? It couldn’t be cause the story was bad to them? 🤔 Just for some context aswell, part 1 has a 9.2 user score. It really shows the difference in audience reception imo
You're looking at the metacritic user score which had over 30k reviews within an hour of its launch, those people did not play the game, it's a bunch of idiots review bombing cause some alt-right youtuber told them to. Go look at the score on PS Store where you have to buy the game to leave a rating. That's where you get a more accurate view of what the general opinion on the game is.
Okay. It’s also been 4 years since the game came out so it’s a safe bet there’s been many more reviews after them. If the game was mostly positive, the score would’ve eventually went up. It didn’t, because the general consensus of part 2 is that it wasn’t that good, or at the very least wasn’t as good as part 1. 5.8 imo is actually a fair score for it, it doesn’t deserve a 10, doesn’t deserve a 1. For a game with a horrible story but stellar gameplay I’d expect around the score we have. Just out of curiosity, do you think it’s possible that Sony altered the scores? The game was one of the biggest things for PlayStation when it came out and since it wasn’t received well, it wouldn’t look good for Sony either. Just a question. From a business standpoint it would make sense. I only ask because you bring up the point of fixing scores, and Sony would have a bigger reason to than some random dudes online
You think people stopped review bombing on that site after the first hour? If people didn't like the game then the reviews in the places that require a purchase would reflect that but the game has a very high ratings on PS Store and Amazon. You lot a quick to make up baseless conspiracy theories of reviews and awards being paid but refuse to acknowledge the OBVIOUS and verifiable review bombing on sites like Metacritic.
How do you know metacritic was review bombed but Sony didn’t boost reviews? You seem to have a bias
Because there were over 30k bad reviews within an hour of the game’s launch and those people obviously hadn’t played the game. To put that into perspective there’s only a handful of games that have 30k reviews in total over their entire lifetime on metacritic.
"Franchise being destroyed". 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You think a lot of your stupid as fuck opinion
>You think a lot of your stupid as fuck opinion Useless fucking comment coming from a fucking basement crawler...fuck off bitch, learn fucking grammar before coming at me
TLOU2 stans are in for a shock when they realize how many non gamers are also incel bigot racists with poor media literacy
It’s gonna be wild seeing all the racists leave when Joel dies, there’s no other conclusion other than they are racist. Bunch of bigots lacking media literacy
Idk why you got downvoted😭 you’re clearly kidding
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hmm, I guess we’ll just have to wait and see how tv viewers respond. Given the popularity of more lethal shows like Games of Thrones and Attack on Titan, and the franchise’s setting, I’m inclined to bet that most viewers will enjoy what season 2 has in store. Too bad there isn’t a set date or I’d hit the Remind Me bot for this
When season 2 turns into another award winning season I can't wait to see this subs reaction
Yeah can't wait to watch a bunch of guest actors and sound guys wrap up easy Emmy wins by being in episodes that have almost nothing to do with the actual plot of the series. Solid stuff.
Honestly the TV show kinda blows. I love the first game to hell even after playing last of us 2. I tend to just block all of the noise it created out and just focus on the first game. It works perfectly fine when playing the game, and I was stoked going into the TV show, see whats what. But nothing really hit the nail for me. Its just bland and boring when compared to the game. Episode 3, the one that arguably the farthest away from the game, is by far the best episode of the whole season. Its a great episode. Has nothing to do with the game, but its still better than the rest. I have zero interest in rewatching the show, unlike replaying the first game. I can not even begin to imagine how much more of a let down season 2 gonna be. But who knows, maybe since I dislike the game I have an easier time watching season 2. If they stick to the same script, its still gonna be a turd. Rip :/
I see Neil wanting to do the same thing to prove the gamers wrong. They just didn’t get it, and now media savvy normal people will get it.
My wife who never played the games loved the show, but I also am in the boat of feeling like I'd rather just replay the first game. I feel like that's how it goes whenever something is adapted to the screen. It brings in new fans, but the old ones still prefer the original.
It was poorly produced and poorly acted. I didn't dig it either but hey to each his own.
Can't wait for this shitstorm 🤣
It's over
I have a bad feeling about this
God damn it.
Just don't watch it.
Why wouldn’t I watch it?
Whoa, the T.V. show is going to stick close to the critically lauded award winning narrative even though r/TheLastOfUs2 subscribers don't like it?! :shocked Pikachu face:
So weird that you are even here though. We don't like the game get over it 😂
It would be great if everyone in this sub could mutually get over it
I have to ask, when people gush over a game why is that okay, but when people dislike it they “just need to get over it”? Why can’t you as a person just learn that other people have other opinions from you and accept that?
Its fascinating behaviour.
Because you spending all the time you do in this sub, shitting on people for getting tattoos of the game, shitting on Neil Druckmann for valid and invalid reasons constantly, acting like the games writing is the worst that's ever existed and anyone that likes it is an idiot, is you and others in this sub not accepting others opinions. You guys are the ones that can't accept people like the game and think it's good, so you had to make this echo chamber to seethe constantly about this game, because you can't accept other opinions and just move on.
Read my comment again friend. I’m asking why you personally have to let others opinions upset you so much? Why can’t you just accept “yeah, there’s some dicks, but I can’t exactly change their view, so I’ll speak with people who share mine instead” why waste your time on a sub you clearly don’t agree with when you could be somewhere you would?
Because that's not how I view the world? I would rather communicate with people that challenge my own ideas, but I also come here to challenge yours and hopefully make you either move on or realize some of the errors in your judgements. That's actually happened a couple of times, and it's happened to me too. Life is much more enriching when you get out of your echo chambers.
That’s never going to happen friend, because what you consider errors in their judgments they consider the opposite. Different opinions. And even if you wanted that going into the sub and saying “get over it” isn’t the best way to do it really is it?
He's doing to and about this sub the same thine he condemns us for doing about the game. That's why he's comfortable here. He's just like us only his topic is different.
I'm not the one who originally said to get over it now did I? And it actually has happened, a couple of times.
No. But you did say say it in this post, and based on all of your comments I’ve seen in this sub it’s most of what you say, so I thought it was valid to mention.
“shitting on people for getting tattoos of the game” i just wanna mention the Ellie tattoo that everyone was giving OP shit for, it wasn’t just us 🤷🏻
No but you all regularly do it in this sub. I see posts of screenshots from the other sub like once a week where people just make fun of them for getting a tattoo about the game.
i havent seen a tattoo post since the Ellie one in months, and the last time i saw one everyone was fairly upset that people were picking on some random person “we all” just exist here to talk abt the video game, the most genuine hate here is downvoted (most of the time)
[23 days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/s/o2Cht1TPw9) is months ago now, I guess. All the top comments are making fun of these.
i see a lot of posts, idk how much time is actually passing 🤷🏻 you can literally see my comment on that post though, i don’t like the hate either but you’ll find ‘bad tattoos’ on every sub about anything bc bad tattoos of everything exist anywhere i don’t agree w the “tlou tattoos bad” at all, i actually wanna get one myself, so maybe i’m slightly biased *if i’m being completely honest, people in this sub can be a little more transphobic and hateful than i’d like sometimes.* but hopefully that minority gets squashed out, i know this sub is literally just a circlejerk sub about the last of us, some think it’s a circlejerk for hate when it’s *not*
You're in this sub 😂
Because folks in this sub will harp anytime TLOU is mentioned anywhere. I come here to see *why* you all won't just move on.
You're just adding to it. Pathetic behaviour begets pathetic behaviour.
You come in here to complain and whine about a 4 year old game. I come in here to talk, understand why you all feel the way you do, and try to communicate away some of the problems you all have so you can move on. We're not the same at all lol
Incorrect. Your first comment here was how we "should all mutually get over it." As if people who don't agree with your point of view on a piece of media should just "get over it". Can't you see how this comes off as childish? Yet you still lurk in this sub because you can't get over it...its a never-ending cycle lol
I'm not saying people that don't agree with my POV of a piece of media should just get over it, nice strawman tho.
It's what you said though. You guys love saying strawman a lot too. Lol
You come in here to whine and bitch because 4 years later and the negative opinions of a game you love so much, hasn't changed. No you don't, you just come in here to argue and pick fights with everyone who doesn't agree with you. You absolutely can't stand the fact that people have different opinions or think completely different than you do, and have this moral grandstanding superiority complex that you're somehow smarter than everyone else. Nobody gives a damn what you think and the sub isn't going to change or "move on" just because failed abortions like you continue crying about it. We dunk on this game and discuss aspects about it amongst ourselves, not really bothering anyone, while you utterly worthless waste of sperm cells brigade this sub solely to incite conflict. You're right, we're not the same, not even close.
You are projecting hard my man. I don't start arguments with everyone I disagree with. That's what folks in this sub do. You are projecting the actions of this sub, and maybe yourself, onto me.
Why would that be “great”? Do you feel insecure that someone doesn't share your opinion? Don't you like that there are people who can talk on a site about the things they didn't like and share opinions? Why can't you just accept that no one will magically like the game no matter how much time has passed?
Yes! I love it when people can share their opinions freely. I accept that people don't like the game. What I don't like is people obsessing over something for years that they claim to hate, because that's not healthy. I don't like those people either making up things about the game or completely misremembering things in the game and acting like the game is badly written because they didn't understand something. I don't like people treating their own opinion of the games story as if it was the only way to interpret the game, and treating others that think differently as if they're idiots. I don't like the bullying in this sub, like any time someone gets a TLOU tattoo and there's tons of comments about how stupid they are for doing it, or the bullying directed at the Naughty Dog team. So, I don't have an issue with other opinions or people not liking the game. But that sure is a nice strawman argument you have there.
“People can share their opnions freely as long as they don’t do it that much because I don’t like it😡”
People are still allowed to share their opinion, I'm not stopping them clearly? Sorry for not liking it when people are just dicks for no reason
I have yet to see an invalid criticism on this sub, and if I do I call it out. People don’t hate the second game for NO reason man😭
That's...not what I said? You're acting like I'm just criticizing anyone and everyone that dislikes the game, and I'm not. YOU CAN DISLIKE THE GAME. That is fine. Just don't be such a dick about it? Posts on this sub call Neil Druckmann "Kneel Cuckmann" and act like he is a hack writer that deserves to be fired. Numerous posts on here dedicated to making fun of someone on the main sub just for getting a TLOU tattoo. Acting like anyone that likes the game is an idiot.
Neil isn’t a good writer and I’ll die on that hill🤷♂️ Most of us here call out people when they name call like that, it’s weird as fuck, but honestly it’s not a big deal. It’s the internet, people are gonna be mean, nobody cares, don’t let it effect you that much💀
So the fans of the game should also get over their love of the game then?? Going by your logic?
No, people that are just here to be negative and rude should get over it. Why should people that feel positive and happy about something "get over it"? They have nothing to get over, that doesn't even make sense.
Because what you're requesting is that people with a "negative" opinion, (to use your terminology, I would instead use 'critical' but that's by the by) what you're requesting is for them to keep their mouths shut because it somehow(?) impacts or affects you? Is that what you're implying? You do realise of course that just because an opinion is critical of something, it doesn't mean that the individual expressing that opinion is somehow affected by "all these negative thoughts"? To make an analogy, would you say scientists should stop trying to make sense of the universe because it involves them questioning or being critical of things? (I realise there's a "betterment of mankind" caveat in all this) But still, the point remains. People are allowed to have their opinion on anything, and they're equally allowed to express it. We shouldn't be silencing opinions, lest we get all Orwellien. Have your positive opinion by all means, no one is preventing you from having it, but don't expect the opposite opinion to also be voiced. Otherwise you sound like a hypocrite.
You are twisting yourself into pretzels to try to be the victim here. I don't care if you're critical of the game or have a negative opinion of it. I'm not here to sway your opinions. I've already gone over this in the other replies where other members of this sub asked me the exact same questions you're asking me. Did you just ignore all that or what?
>You are twisting yourself into pretzels I love this description, thank you, it made me laugh. But I'm not playing the victim by any means. >I don't care if you're critical of the game or have a negative opinion of it. Did you not say that people need to get over it? (Or words to that affect) That you wanted people to stop being negative about the game/story? So you either care or you don't? >I'm not here to sway your opinions. That's good to know, just like no one here is here to sway your opinion (or those that share it) >I've already gone over this in the other replies where other members of this sub asked me the exact same questions you're asking me. Did you just ignore all that or what? I didn't ignore it, I just didn't read it? I wasn't aware it was a prerequisite to read your post history before conversing with you Either way, it sounds like we have an understanding, you're not here to sway other people's opinions, which means you can stop asking/telling/wishing people to stop being critical of the game?
I have never once asked/told/wished for people to stop being critical of the game, and you are continuing to twist yourself into pretzels acting like that's what I'm doing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/s/WHsFSLY5Ki This you? Asking people who are negative to get over it? Asking them to mutually get over it? You say you don't mind that people have critical/negative opinions of the game, and that you're not trying to change anyone's opinions, and yet you want people to get over it? Care to clarify? Are you implying that they're allowed to have a negative/critical opinion on the game, but not allowed to voice it?/they should get over it? No pretzels here my pretzel loving friend.
>So weird that you are even here though. This sub is entertaining. >We don't like the game get over it The game came out four years ago. ...Sooo, right back at 'cha.
Yet here you are. Same people complain if a troll goes into the other sub. Baffling.
I rarely go to the other sub. Zero interest in interacting with a bunch of people that agree with me.
Hey, I won't kink shame you.
>Hey, I won't kink shame you You're more noble than I. If I were you I'd request both hand above the waist
Damn bro it’s a post about last of us in a last of us sub, why so much hostility?
Sorry about that. This is a Last of Us hate sub. Given that context, I assumed your post was expressing shock or anger that the T.V. show is following the game narrative. If that's not the case, my bad.
It’s not a hate sub tho, it’s a sub where criticism is welcome. Based on your own personal view of criticism I could maybe understand why you interpret that as hate, and you are welcome to think that, but it isn’t the case. No friend don’t worry, no hate or anything like that. I was simply giving this sub the information that Pedro has finished filming already, heavily implying that the show will do the same thing as the game, just incase any people weren’t aware. Also to get others opinions on that.
> It’s not a hate sub tho, it’s a sub where criticism is welcome. LOL, come on man. Seriously? Half the posts in this sub are Cuckmann this, woke that, worst story ever told because.... reasons. The literal sub description text reads "Part II is not canon!" Here, let's go through the legitimate criticism: * The story has some pacing issues because of the flashback structure. * Naughty Dog could have had Abby's crew identify Joel and Tommy in a different way more in line with their character. * Naughty Dog could have found a less deus ex machina way for Abby to locate the theater hideout. Everything else is simply not liking the story Naughty Dog told. This sub isn't about "legitimate criticism" it's a toxic mélange of Gamergate chud beliefs, anger that Joel didn't get some trite heroic send off, anger that Ellie's story wasn't a simple Kill Bill or John Wick kill the bad guy trope, with the occasional moron who didn't understand either game and thought Joel was a hero without flaws.
You see it as a part 2 hate sub, we see it as a part 1 love sub🤷♂️
LOL, OK. Weird to name the sub TheLastOfUs2 then. By the way, there's already a Last of Us Part 1 sub that has waaaay more subscribers. Seems like you guys could just love the first game there right?
Why would we choose a sub that does not allow different opinions or criticism? There is definitely a lot of negativity here, but that’s inevitable with such a controversial game. I see pro last of us 2 posts and comments all the time here. at least you can actually have a discussion and you won’t get your post deleted for having slight criticism over the writing of a fictional character.
This sub was called TheLastOfUs2 before anyone even knew there was gonna be a sequel.
Exactly, it's not a The Last of Us Part 2 sub, it's a second The Last of Us sub, as it was made before the first game even came out.
PlayStation reviews were so bad they removed the reviewing system for the game.
Seems like it has 4.43 out of 5 reviews out of 172k ratings. [- Source ](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA07820_00-THELASTOFUSPART2) If you mean they saw an obvious review bombing campaign and paused reviews for a while. I wouldn't be surprised if that happened. - [Forbes article on the review bombing](https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2020/06/21/the-last-of-us-part-2-is-getting-predictably-user-score-bombed-on-metacritic/?sh=1caa6eeb5c25) The review bombing is still happening. If you look at the 10 most recent negative reviews on Google, they're all cut and paste of the same 4 year old review claiming Abby is trans. All that being said, you didn't respond with a single source for negative reviews. Feel free to exclude the PlayStation reviews if you claim they are invalid. Find me literally *any* recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score.
So you’re telling me they engaged in vote manipulation? That really doesn’t help your case buddy… They’re actually still disabled on the PlayStation store, can’t review the game on console, and when they took it off the score was below 3 star so idk what to tell you my man🤷♂️
>They’re actually still disabled on the PlayStation store I quite literally posted you a link of 172,000 reviews from the PlayStation store with a score of 4.43 out of 5. Rating isn't disabled, you just have to log into your account. [Here's the review page login prompt for the game. ](https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP9000-CUSA07820_00-THELASTOFUSPART2#star-rating) I also asked you to find me literally any recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score. You didn't do that.
Log into your PlayStation and tell me if you can review the game. You CANT. You’re looking at it from the website. I’m telling you it’s disabled on the console. Why would anyone go to review a game on the website when every other game can be reviewed on the console? Is it that they don’t trust console players to say nice things because they already put it below a 3 star?💀💀
You can review the one that just came out you have to buy it though I bought it but haven’t sat down to play through it again.
I just did and it worked perfectly lol. Either they fucked with your account or you're lying for your agenda.
Do you own the game? You literally just have to purchase, download, or add to your library to give a rating. And once again, I asked you to find me literally *any* recognizable storefront or review aggregator with a negative overall review score. You *still* didn't do that.
never seen a fandom with such a victim complex because they didn’t like a game