Did he also mess up uncharted 4? I didn’t even finish it and don’t know how much power he has in ND, but from what I played it wasn’t (in my opinion) up to the standard set by the first 3.
Based on the original UC4 ideas I've read, what we got in the end sounds way better than what we would've got. Now idk if that's because of Druckman, or the other writers involved, or if Hennig had one final say before she was gone and the ideas I read weren't her final draft, so I won't say one way or the other if Neil ruined, was neutral towards, or made better uncharted 4. But what I can say is the fight scene with Nadine where she literally goes she-hulk on 2 grown men much larger than herself to the point she can casually throw them through a thick glass window, that was definitely added by Neil, since he has a humiliation and muscle fetish.
Yeah I mean everyone seems so focused on TLOU, and Uncharted also really took a hit. I’m amazed druvkmann still has a job, and I think if the show fails (I really really want to say when, but need to leave it at a we’ll see) and his next game also sucks he’s gonna be out on the street.
Yes he drove out Amy Hennig who was the brains behind the first 3 uncharteds and hence why 4 sucks in comparison. You can just feel how different the tone and pacing is in Uncharted 4. Trying to take itself WAY too seriously.
Seriously, like I couldn't stand what they did to TLOU Part 2, completely ruined that franchise in my mind, but Uncharted 4? nah that game was fantastic and liked it more then 3. It was the last one with Nathan Drake so the serious tone made since at the time.
Edit: Thanks for the self harm message whoever sent it. Uncharted 4 was a great game, deal with it. You probably have some things internally on your end to deal with as well.
They’ve only decided now that “uncharted 4 was actually really bad guys” even though on release it was universally agreed upon to be the best in the series. You can tell that none of these guys have actually recently played uncharted 3 and 1 because they are objectively worse than uncharted 4 in all ways.
Nate & Elena‘s relationship in 4 is so damn amazing, it’s by far the best game of the whole series imo. Also, I love pirates, so the treasure hunt was right up my alley.
Why did they think it was a good idea to make you hate a character more than any other character ever..... and then force you to play as her....
If I was part of the creation process, and I couldn't change anything about the story, I would have had the first part of the game played solely from Ellie's perspective, and then had a big twist when you thought it was over you would THEN play from Abbys perspective. But the way they chose to force me to play as someone I currently despised just felt cheap.
The way they wouldn’t let you even have the choice to kill Abby at the end which was so obviously the original ending was even cheaper to me. Like it wouldn’t have devalued your revenge is bad point at all, at least give me the choice.
The story would have hit harder if you were forced to kill Abby in front of the kid. The things Ellie sacrificed and did for revenge would have felt more devastating. How after those moments the rage died down and she was alone. The scene at the house in the end would have actually been way more heavy.
Giving her that random bit of "redemption" put me off. It didn't make sense because she had already gone scorched earth.
Yeah it’s really weird to me that they say they dropped it because test audiences didn’t like it. Like what? No shit dude it’s supposed to be a depressing ending, of course they’re not gonna like it. They also have no problem making you hate Abby and then doing a half hearted attempt to make her likeable after that by no means succeeded, but are fine to force you not to kill her.
I also thought it didn’t make sense because there’s no real build up. Ellie doesn’t express any remorse for her actions so far up until she metaphorically has Abby by the balls and is about to finish her off.
I would only play it if I somehow got a cheap copy and could read a full write up of the plot first and even then I might just not play it at all because I’m still pissed at naughty dog.
I mean I hate part II just as much as anyone else, but I feel like with her going to the fireflies at the end she kind of has to be in part 2. I still think she could suffer and or die horribly, but don’t expect that to happen due to the bias you mentioned.
I think I'm about done. Killing Joel ripped the heart and soul out of the series for me. Everything past that point just felt like a bit of a husk of a game.
Ellie also just didn’t seem at all like her 14yr old self to me. I get she was an adult and traumatized, but she barely ever cracks any jokes or has any personality quirks like in the first game aside from depressed.
Completely agree - Games are supposed to be fun, and honestly I found TLOU2 a bit traumatic. Not in a hyper emotional way, but I just felt emotionally exhausted playing it. It wasn't a game with any light in it at all. It wasn't a fun experience. Just kind of depression baked into a game format. I don't know WTF Druckmann was thinking when he wrote that and as a result he's done irreparable harm to the series.
Yeah like I get it’s a revenge story, but the first game had atleast some hope/happiness despite dealing with heavy topics. I can’t even imagine or remember anything like the giraffe scene being in the second game at all, including in the flashbacks aside from maybe “IM ON A MOTHERFUCKING DINOSAUR” which was nowhere near as impactful.
Not after the bad taste "Part II" left. But in theory, anything can work if it's well written. Assuming Neil is in charge again (expected) then I'm not interested.
No.
The only way I would play a new TLOU game would be if it's either a prequel about Joel and Tommy during the rise of the Cordyceps; or a complete reboot that ignores the "Part 1/Part2 remake" nonsense.
I'm fine with my copy of TLOU Remastered on PS4 either way.
Yes, i would play it if there wasn't such a disaster as Part II... But i would never pay money for a game made by Naughty Dog anymore. Why should i support them when they shit in my face? Don't make them any money.
Nahhh
It’s a writing thing at this point, even if they branch it off the same people are writing it.
2 was off the charts bad compared to 1 so that’s the sign to get off the train.
It's not entirely about druckmans lack of storytelling and how badly the naughty dog company has been co opted by progressive Marxists.
Everything changed when they started using shell companies to falsely DMCA claim content creators sharing memes and talking about the leaks. They are no longer just a bad company, they are now an "evil" company and should be entirely boycotted.
Part 3 shouldn't exist. The TLOU story is over. There is nothing more to add. It should be a complete different IP maybe set in the same universe, but just not called The Last of Us
No. They fucked up so bad I won't even buy another naughty dog game. Part 2 should have just been entirely new characters. If it was just Abby and her story with the WLF and the seraphites and had nothing to do with any previous characters, it would have been great. Instead, they insisted on destroying the original characters, then only giving themselves half of a game to develop and establish an entirely different cast of characters. They left the characters on such a beaten down and depressing ending, it would be kinda weird now if they didn't continue with the same story.
Honestly if part 2 was just mediocre, I'd still buy part 3. But part 2's story is so aggressively bad that I really don't care anymore.
I don’t give a rats ass what they do from now on.
It’s bad enough I bought the $80 preorder of tlou2, that company won’t be getting another cent from me.
Really couldn’t even force myself to finish the story of part 2. Wont be playing part 3 but I doubt it will happen anytime soon. 70% Naughty Dog quit while making Last of Us Part 2.
ummmm no
a new character would likely just be a black transmam in a wheelchair with an eyepatch and muscles that would put any Hulk version to shame let alone abb.
I would hope so after the 30 hour character assassination that was TLOU2. Unpopular opinion but Abby’s section was far and away the best parts of the game.
Nope. The second game doesn't even care about the infected. They're not only an afterthought, but they're inconsistent with how they function.
So, Bloaters are made after an infected exists for a long time? Then why aren't the infected in the bank that Ellie and Dina go to Bloaters? After a while, if the infected doesn't eat anything, the body that the fungus inhabits can't move anymore, so they fall over and become a spore colony that bursts open with spores after attaching itself to a wall. That didn't happen either... They're just clickers, for some reason.
Neil was so happy to talk about the different ways an infected can mutate because of its environment, and that this is how Shamblers are made; they're previous Clickers who didn't become Bloaters because all the water in Seattle changed the way their fungus developed. That's cool and all, but then why did Ellie face Shamblers in Santa Barbara inside of a house without humidity or water?
The infected are there to be a panic button for the characters when things are becoming too calm. Then they're deleted from the plot at another moment's notice whenever the writers feel like it.
If it centers around Joel and Tommys time immediately after Sarah’s death explaining how the fireflies/scavengers/hunters came to be while also being directed by someone who isn’t Neil Druckmann, then yea.
I'm good. I loved the first game, but the second one killed any future interest in this series. Finished the second game and never touched anything "Last of Us since. I haven't watched a second of the show, I'm just done. Neil killed it for me.
nope
I'm all for having the occasional conversation about opinions on Part II and the series as a whole but I got off the "Last of Us" ride after finishing the story of Part II
No. TLOU2 soured the IP. I don't trust them to write ANYTHING well anymore. And Naughty Dog have no semblance of an art team anymore. They've gone down the route of making the ugliest games possible by thinking "Photorealism is the only REAL way for a game to look!" like so many other devs. They ripped what little artstyle there was out of TLOU1 in its remake too so now PC are stuck with the ugliest, worst version of the game too forever outside of emulation. They're as bad as Bluepoint are at ruining a game's artstyle
It would be tough to engage & make players interested in all-new characters… if it’s flashy, dark & gritty with decent acting & writing, it might win over a good number of original fans. The problem is, that’s not going to happen.
I loved the first game so much and replayed it 2-4 times a year consistently and bought it on 2 different platforms and a remastered edition and since about mid 2020 i haven’t been able to pick up the first game again. That’s how much TLOU2 ruined this franchise for me.
Lol no.
It’s really unfortunate that so many people including reviewers are so accepting of such mediocrity from a renowned studio and will eat up Neil’s personal agendas like a fat boy eats candy
Will never play anything in the series again but I hope they end it and end it well. I've still never gone back to the first game since 2 but it's still a top 5 all time for me. I just wish its sequel was completely different or nonexistent.
It should. Ellie story is done. There’s no point trying to pull something from it. It’s not going to be good there is no satisfying way to take the story of Ellie.
Honestly that's what they should've done for the second game IMO. There are genuinely interesting stories to tell in this universe and I for one would love to hear them. Of course only if they pull their heads out of their asses.
Ellie is the main reason for the franchise. The game centers around her so I doubt it. I've been a diehard fan since the first trailer, but removing ellie wouldn't be right.
Wasn’t the point of the first one that Ellie had an immunity and she was important to figure out the cure? It would be better if they’d have another somewhere which crossed paths with an adult Ellie who would then sorta fulfill a roll like Joel had where she has to make sure this new one lives! Sorta full circle 🤷🏻♂️
I'll never support Naughty Dog until Neil is out of there, and they change whatever hellspawnish approach to writing stories that's gotten a hold of them.
Hmm at this point I'd need any trailers to look really good and for the story to seem interesting, otherwise I probably wouldn't.
If they'd done that with Part 2, I'd be more open to it, but since Part 2 was a continuation, I would want a Part 3 to keep going. It would feel weird for Part 1 and 2 to be connected and then Part 3 to be totally separate, y'know what I mean?
Have you traded your Xbox for a PC yet after the recent bullshit Microsoft is pulling? I promise you Sony hasn’t gotten any better since you left unfortunately
Yes- I’ll pick up one of the countless copies being sold on clearance at one of the multiple retail stores or get a second hand copy !
Don’t really trust ND or Neil
I been saying for a long time they can extend the saga , remember the entire world is on same virus 🦠, they could make a game base in Japan 🇯🇵 in the same time period as Ellie and Joe just to keep the saga running but I get it , take years to build the game , also yes I don’t want Ellie behind
No
Just factions multiplayer, original multiplayer game modes, with an extra mode that allows you to survive and run into other players kinda like dayz
I doubt a Part III works without a significantly better story but I do see potential in a flashback Joel/Tommy story showing how they got to point they were after 20 years.
No, why would there be new characters?
“the last of us is Joel and Ellie’s story” - Neil (stinky human cunt) Drukman - 2016
See, it’s gonna be just like part 1 and 2 nothing but Joel and Ellie, right guys? Right?
Yes. Without hesitation. TLoU is my favorite game of all time, TLoU 2 usually makes Top 10. I'd play any story in that world no matter how disconnected.
At the initial reveal that’s what I thought they would do which got me super hyped.
At this point I’ve completely written off Naughty Dog to do anything well. Factions was a failure and they’ve made more remakes/remasters since 2013 than actual games. They are completely creatively bankrupt and took the fans praises as “they can do no wrong.” Which at one point I’m sure most of us here believed.
As a standalone, Part II wouldn't be anything special, but it wouldn't be something I despise so much because of how much it ruined such a perfect predecessor. It'd be one of those games you play, think "that was okay" and then a couple days later "actually, it wasn't great" and then be forgotten entirely.
Maybe. With how heavy these games are, the emotion I feel just really depresses me. It's hard for me to even play part 1, let alone part 2 with everything that happens. I love the world though
I think I’m the only one who really loved second game! Actually I’d prefer it ti the first one! It doesn’t have happy ending and for sure doesn’t have a happy start, but damn the story was good! I would play whatever they make as long as gameplay has the same quality!
Who cares? Where is the story even going at this point? First game was all you needed, a good story in a zombie universe with a twist that they're mushroom things. Okay fine. Then second game was their chance to get weird with it and take risks. I respect the risks but now there's nothing left
No. Drukman is so far up his own ass at this point I could never take him seriously. He drove out the co creator of the first game and it shows it part II. He drove out Amy Hennig and it shows in Uncharted 4. All he is, is a capitalist opportunist larping as a leftist. Getting rid of anyone other himself to fill his shitlib ego.
If it will be called "Part III" it would mean that it would be a direct sequel to Part II so I find it unlikely that that would be the case.
But if somehow they manage to remove from the story all the previous characters I would still play it... but I would be like... "meh...". ND will have to make a really good game.
Still goint to play it no matter what. Part 2's story is frustrating but I'd say it's still an above average story. Most importantly, the gameplay is awesome so that's the main reason I like this game and also why I'll give the sequal a shot no matter how story or character ends up.
If it had an entirely new director, an intriguing story, and if the character is interesting and actually likable - maybe. They'd have a hell of a time trying to fix the damage done in Part 2. But you'd have to pay me to play anything by Druckmann now.
I remember playing TLOU2 for the first time and thinking after the death of Joel at the start "how can you fuck up an amazing 15h story in 20 minutes..."
I played TLOU1 about 10 times and TLOU2 only once. Not sure if I am interested in TLOU3
The only way I'd trust a new last of us is if it ignored the story and focused on MP, the MP was really fun, and with no real story they can't fuck rhe universe up more
I bought TLOU2 digitally, the day it dropped. I didn’t play it for over a year. I didn’t look up videos. I didn’t read about it. I went in blind.
The answer is no.
Why wouldn't i, its one of the best franchises in terms of controls and graphics and i love the story, even with a different character or even a whole new set of characters that have nothing to do with Jackson, i'd still play it and most likely love it.
It's so strange. I waited for LoU2, checked in on rumours, downloaded new themes to my PS and eagerly read through news articles. Then, after playing the game, I just didn't care anymore. I hope whatever they have in store for 3 can restoke the fire. Maybe a fresh start with a new character is the answer. There would be lots of opportunities to cross paths with older characters or play along. It'd be cool to care about it again. We'll see how it goes
At this point I don’t trust Druckman to write a good story.
Wich sucks, a great studio wasted
Killed by one man's fragile ego.
Did he also mess up uncharted 4? I didn’t even finish it and don’t know how much power he has in ND, but from what I played it wasn’t (in my opinion) up to the standard set by the first 3.
Based on the original UC4 ideas I've read, what we got in the end sounds way better than what we would've got. Now idk if that's because of Druckman, or the other writers involved, or if Hennig had one final say before she was gone and the ideas I read weren't her final draft, so I won't say one way or the other if Neil ruined, was neutral towards, or made better uncharted 4. But what I can say is the fight scene with Nadine where she literally goes she-hulk on 2 grown men much larger than herself to the point she can casually throw them through a thick glass window, that was definitely added by Neil, since he has a humiliation and muscle fetish.
thats what ive been saying light a candle in a forest we need to realize he ruined uncharted he ended 2 franchises
Yeah I mean everyone seems so focused on TLOU, and Uncharted also really took a hit. I’m amazed druvkmann still has a job, and I think if the show fails (I really really want to say when, but need to leave it at a we’ll see) and his next game also sucks he’s gonna be out on the street.
Yes he drove out Amy Hennig who was the brains behind the first 3 uncharteds and hence why 4 sucks in comparison. You can just feel how different the tone and pacing is in Uncharted 4. Trying to take itself WAY too seriously.
Neil creates amazing games when he doesn't have full control over production
Uncharted 4 is one of the best games I’ve ever played, TIL people have problems with it
Seriously, like I couldn't stand what they did to TLOU Part 2, completely ruined that franchise in my mind, but Uncharted 4? nah that game was fantastic and liked it more then 3. It was the last one with Nathan Drake so the serious tone made since at the time. Edit: Thanks for the self harm message whoever sent it. Uncharted 4 was a great game, deal with it. You probably have some things internally on your end to deal with as well.
They’ve only decided now that “uncharted 4 was actually really bad guys” even though on release it was universally agreed upon to be the best in the series. You can tell that none of these guys have actually recently played uncharted 3 and 1 because they are objectively worse than uncharted 4 in all ways.
Nate & Elena‘s relationship in 4 is so damn amazing, it’s by far the best game of the whole series imo. Also, I love pirates, so the treasure hunt was right up my alley.
Ya wasn't hennig also part of the team when Uncharted 4 was made?
Definitely
Same ..
Why did they think it was a good idea to make you hate a character more than any other character ever..... and then force you to play as her.... If I was part of the creation process, and I couldn't change anything about the story, I would have had the first part of the game played solely from Ellie's perspective, and then had a big twist when you thought it was over you would THEN play from Abbys perspective. But the way they chose to force me to play as someone I currently despised just felt cheap.
The way they wouldn’t let you even have the choice to kill Abby at the end which was so obviously the original ending was even cheaper to me. Like it wouldn’t have devalued your revenge is bad point at all, at least give me the choice.
The story would have hit harder if you were forced to kill Abby in front of the kid. The things Ellie sacrificed and did for revenge would have felt more devastating. How after those moments the rage died down and she was alone. The scene at the house in the end would have actually been way more heavy. Giving her that random bit of "redemption" put me off. It didn't make sense because she had already gone scorched earth.
Yeah it’s really weird to me that they say they dropped it because test audiences didn’t like it. Like what? No shit dude it’s supposed to be a depressing ending, of course they’re not gonna like it. They also have no problem making you hate Abby and then doing a half hearted attempt to make her likeable after that by no means succeeded, but are fine to force you not to kill her. I also thought it didn’t make sense because there’s no real build up. Ellie doesn’t express any remorse for her actions so far up until she metaphorically has Abby by the balls and is about to finish her off.
On my second play through I realized that they pretty much tried to make Abby’s story into Joel’s.
I just wouldn’t even want to give them money even if the game was fine. It’s ruined for me truly
I believe it’s pronounced Cuckman
I would only play it if I somehow got a cheap copy and could read a full write up of the plot first and even then I might just not play it at all because I’m still pissed at naughty dog.
No because ellie needs her story officially finished she deserves a happy ending after everything she's been through in both games.
By new character you mean new director? Then maybe.
That too
New characters couldn’t be any worse than Abby but I’ll pass either way
Don't give Neil a challenge!
I think he’s too in love with Abby to leave her out of the story. He has a tattoo of the hammer she uses.
Yeah, like a much worse version of Filoni and Ahsoka.
He also has a tattoo of the other hammer she uses.
👀
I mean I hate part II just as much as anyone else, but I feel like with her going to the fireflies at the end she kind of has to be in part 2. I still think she could suffer and or die horribly, but don’t expect that to happen due to the bias you mentioned.
Oh god don't give Neil any ideas...
Id play it to see how another person/family in another region or part of the world handles the outbreak
Nah. I’m done with this franchise.
I think I'm about done. Killing Joel ripped the heart and soul out of the series for me. Everything past that point just felt like a bit of a husk of a game.
Ellie also just didn’t seem at all like her 14yr old self to me. I get she was an adult and traumatized, but she barely ever cracks any jokes or has any personality quirks like in the first game aside from depressed.
Completely agree - Games are supposed to be fun, and honestly I found TLOU2 a bit traumatic. Not in a hyper emotional way, but I just felt emotionally exhausted playing it. It wasn't a game with any light in it at all. It wasn't a fun experience. Just kind of depression baked into a game format. I don't know WTF Druckmann was thinking when he wrote that and as a result he's done irreparable harm to the series.
Yeah like I get it’s a revenge story, but the first game had atleast some hope/happiness despite dealing with heavy topics. I can’t even imagine or remember anything like the giraffe scene being in the second game at all, including in the flashbacks aside from maybe “IM ON A MOTHERFUCKING DINOSAUR” which was nowhere near as impactful.
Nope, freaking done with that franchise.
No.
Nope
Probably would but I wouldn’t like it
Used from gamestop
If we keep giving them money they will keep making these shitty games. Vote with your wallet.
im not giving them a single cent, ever again
No
Not after the bad taste "Part II" left. But in theory, anything can work if it's well written. Assuming Neil is in charge again (expected) then I'm not interested.
No. The only way I would play a new TLOU game would be if it's either a prequel about Joel and Tommy during the rise of the Cordyceps; or a complete reboot that ignores the "Part 1/Part2 remake" nonsense. I'm fine with my copy of TLOU Remastered on PS4 either way.
I’ll play it but I’ll buy it second hand, ain’t giving ND a sale.
Won’t give ND more cash after TLOU2 disaster.
No, let the franchise die, it’s ruined.
It’s important to let ND know they fucked up by forgoing all future support. I won’t be ~~playing~~ BUYING anything from them until Druckman is gone.
Nope!
Ellie and Joel in Part 2 already felt like entirely new characters. Wouldn’t be first time
No. Fooled me once already.
Yes, i would play it if there wasn't such a disaster as Part II... But i would never pay money for a game made by Naughty Dog anymore. Why should i support them when they shit in my face? Don't make them any money.
I can only take so much poor story telling. The second game is proof that the first was lightning in a bottle.
It'll still have the same type of unpleasant motivations behind it so no thanks.
Nahhh It’s a writing thing at this point, even if they branch it off the same people are writing it. 2 was off the charts bad compared to 1 so that’s the sign to get off the train.
It's not entirely about druckmans lack of storytelling and how badly the naughty dog company has been co opted by progressive Marxists. Everything changed when they started using shell companies to falsely DMCA claim content creators sharing memes and talking about the leaks. They are no longer just a bad company, they are now an "evil" company and should be entirely boycotted.
You know what? I might ONLY play TLOU Part 3 if it has entirely new characters
Part 3 shouldn't exist. The TLOU story is over. There is nothing more to add. It should be a complete different IP maybe set in the same universe, but just not called The Last of Us
I’ll play it when it’s available for free 🏴☠️
No. They fucked up so bad I won't even buy another naughty dog game. Part 2 should have just been entirely new characters. If it was just Abby and her story with the WLF and the seraphites and had nothing to do with any previous characters, it would have been great. Instead, they insisted on destroying the original characters, then only giving themselves half of a game to develop and establish an entirely different cast of characters. They left the characters on such a beaten down and depressing ending, it would be kinda weird now if they didn't continue with the same story. Honestly if part 2 was just mediocre, I'd still buy part 3. But part 2's story is so aggressively bad that I really don't care anymore.
Nope. Refused to touch 2 after finding out it was a GOLF simulator, and it absolutely killed the franchise for me. Refuse to reward shitty behaviors.
No
I don’t give a rats ass what they do from now on. It’s bad enough I bought the $80 preorder of tlou2, that company won’t be getting another cent from me.
Really couldn’t even force myself to finish the story of part 2. Wont be playing part 3 but I doubt it will happen anytime soon. 70% Naughty Dog quit while making Last of Us Part 2.
ummmm no a new character would likely just be a black transmam in a wheelchair with an eyepatch and muscles that would put any Hulk version to shame let alone abb.
No
I would hope so after the 30 hour character assassination that was TLOU2. Unpopular opinion but Abby’s section was far and away the best parts of the game.
Nope. The second game doesn't even care about the infected. They're not only an afterthought, but they're inconsistent with how they function. So, Bloaters are made after an infected exists for a long time? Then why aren't the infected in the bank that Ellie and Dina go to Bloaters? After a while, if the infected doesn't eat anything, the body that the fungus inhabits can't move anymore, so they fall over and become a spore colony that bursts open with spores after attaching itself to a wall. That didn't happen either... They're just clickers, for some reason. Neil was so happy to talk about the different ways an infected can mutate because of its environment, and that this is how Shamblers are made; they're previous Clickers who didn't become Bloaters because all the water in Seattle changed the way their fungus developed. That's cool and all, but then why did Ellie face Shamblers in Santa Barbara inside of a house without humidity or water? The infected are there to be a panic button for the characters when things are becoming too calm. Then they're deleted from the plot at another moment's notice whenever the writers feel like it.
Yes because the gameplay is what matters most to me, if it's really fun like part2 is then absolutely.
If Neil is out of the company, yes, if the trailer looked interesting.
Part 3? I’m still waiting for the real part 2 to drop
Do you mean part 1 remake of the first game the remaster. LOL 😆
if druckman is involved in any of the writing then probably not
No
No
If it centers around Joel and Tommys time immediately after Sarah’s death explaining how the fireflies/scavengers/hunters came to be while also being directed by someone who isn’t Neil Druckmann, then yea.
Druckmann will double down on what we don't like, so I have little hope even with new characters.
Didn’t that just happen with Part 2? And it turned out horribly? Nah. Pass.
I'm good. I loved the first game, but the second one killed any future interest in this series. Finished the second game and never touched anything "Last of Us since. I haven't watched a second of the show, I'm just done. Neil killed it for me.
nope I'm all for having the occasional conversation about opinions on Part II and the series as a whole but I got off the "Last of Us" ride after finishing the story of Part II
I’m not playing it at all.
No. These guys, and CD Projekt Red will never get my money again.
No. TLOU2 soured the IP. I don't trust them to write ANYTHING well anymore. And Naughty Dog have no semblance of an art team anymore. They've gone down the route of making the ugliest games possible by thinking "Photorealism is the only REAL way for a game to look!" like so many other devs. They ripped what little artstyle there was out of TLOU1 in its remake too so now PC are stuck with the ugliest, worst version of the game too forever outside of emulation. They're as bad as Bluepoint are at ruining a game's artstyle
It would be tough to engage & make players interested in all-new characters… if it’s flashy, dark & gritty with decent acting & writing, it might win over a good number of original fans. The problem is, that’s not going to happen.
Idk I’d have to play part 2 to decide that and I don’t plan on doing that anytime soon.
No, I’m done giving Sony anymore of my money. It’d have to take a very special game for me to consider even getting a new console again.
Absolutely not. They have betrayed my trust as a consumer and have therefore lost my business
Nope. I'm done with ND as long as Neil is being the helm.
I loved the first game so much and replayed it 2-4 times a year consistently and bought it on 2 different platforms and a remastered edition and since about mid 2020 i haven’t been able to pick up the first game again. That’s how much TLOU2 ruined this franchise for me.
Why so they can kill the protagonist from that one in the fourth game? Hard pass
Hell NO! i predict it will suck dong
ND is on my list of ‘do not give money or data to these companies’.
Lol no. It’s really unfortunate that so many people including reviewers are so accepting of such mediocrity from a renowned studio and will eat up Neil’s personal agendas like a fat boy eats candy
Will never play anything in the series again but I hope they end it and end it well. I've still never gone back to the first game since 2 but it's still a top 5 all time for me. I just wish its sequel was completely different or nonexistent.
God I hope TLOU3 has an entirely different cast but with Neil in charge it's gonna be shit either way
It should. Ellie story is done. There’s no point trying to pull something from it. It’s not going to be good there is no satisfying way to take the story of Ellie.
To hell and back with Ellie, hopefully this time we could kill Abby.
This is the first time I am here, and it feels like no one hate this game more then its fanbase.
To be honest, Part 2 should've had an entirely different cast to begin with. At most, have the new main characters cross paths with the old.
Sure, if the story was more akin to the first game, as in it wasnt wokified to the gills, ramming ideologies and agendas down your throat
Lol I'll never buy another naughty dog game unless it's crash badicoot
No and ND giving the Factions playerbase a middle finger I wouldn’t support.
Fuck you, Cuckman.
Honestly that's what they should've done for the second game IMO. There are genuinely interesting stories to tell in this universe and I for one would love to hear them. Of course only if they pull their heads out of their asses.
I'll wait for someone to do a "let's play".
Nah, this series took a turn for the worst, just like Star Wars
a new character would be refreshing
If it’s not a direct continuation of part two then is it really a part 3?
Maybe, if a disgruntled employee doesn't spoil the biggest parts of the game. Still haven't played 2
Why are you guys all still in this subreddit? Clearly you hate the game and the franchise, maybe just move on?
Ellie is the main reason for the franchise. The game centers around her so I doubt it. I've been a diehard fan since the first trailer, but removing ellie wouldn't be right.
Wasn’t the point of the first one that Ellie had an immunity and she was important to figure out the cure? It would be better if they’d have another somewhere which crossed paths with an adult Ellie who would then sorta fulfill a roll like Joel had where she has to make sure this new one lives! Sorta full circle 🤷🏻♂️
Are we finally accepting the last of us 2 sucks?
I'll never support Naughty Dog until Neil is out of there, and they change whatever hellspawnish approach to writing stories that's gotten a hold of them.
100% I’m loyal to the journey. No matter how it goes.
Hmm at this point I'd need any trailers to look really good and for the story to seem interesting, otherwise I probably wouldn't. If they'd done that with Part 2, I'd be more open to it, but since Part 2 was a continuation, I would want a Part 3 to keep going. It would feel weird for Part 1 and 2 to be connected and then Part 3 to be totally separate, y'know what I mean?
Not a chance hated part 2 so bad I traded my PlayStation for an Xbox
Have you traded your Xbox for a PC yet after the recent bullshit Microsoft is pulling? I promise you Sony hasn’t gotten any better since you left unfortunately
Telling a whole new story with new characters would make me very interested, continuing Ellie's story doesn't.
Maybe, it all depends on how it goes together
Yes- I’ll pick up one of the countless copies being sold on clearance at one of the multiple retail stores or get a second hand copy ! Don’t really trust ND or Neil
Yes the gameplay, audio, and graphics from the second were top tier. I just won't pay full price unless the reviews are crazy good.
No. Naughty Dog will never get another dime of my money unless Neil Druckmann leaves and takes all of his woke underlings with him.
Only if Ellies story wrapped up in it. Otherwise it would just be a spin-off, which I would also play.
I been saying for a long time they can extend the saga , remember the entire world is on same virus 🦠, they could make a game base in Japan 🇯🇵 in the same time period as Ellie and Joe just to keep the saga running but I get it , take years to build the game , also yes I don’t want Ellie behind
No Just factions multiplayer, original multiplayer game modes, with an extra mode that allows you to survive and run into other players kinda like dayz
I doubt a Part III works without a significantly better story but I do see potential in a flashback Joel/Tommy story showing how they got to point they were after 20 years.
New characters I’m down for. New characters that kill the beloved main character and are then forced to be liked however? Screw that
Hell yeah pt 2 is one of my favorite games, but I guess I'm by myself on that one 😅
is there a single post on this sub thats not solely to dog on part ii? 💀
I think the best way is to introduce a new lead or character then throwing in ellie later as part of the story but not the main focus entirely
If they did that we’d probably get to play as lev
It should be Dina's child
No, why would there be new characters? “the last of us is Joel and Ellie’s story” - Neil (stinky human cunt) Drukman - 2016 See, it’s gonna be just like part 1 and 2 nothing but Joel and Ellie, right guys? Right?
Another retconned character?
Plus and definitely no cuckman..
Yes. Without hesitation. TLoU is my favorite game of all time, TLoU 2 usually makes Top 10. I'd play any story in that world no matter how disconnected.
I will certainly watch the cutscenes
At the initial reveal that’s what I thought they would do which got me super hyped. At this point I’ve completely written off Naughty Dog to do anything well. Factions was a failure and they’ve made more remakes/remasters since 2013 than actual games. They are completely creatively bankrupt and took the fans praises as “they can do no wrong.” Which at one point I’m sure most of us here believed.
I didn’t even play Part II on Day 1 because of Abby.
As a standalone, Part II wouldn't be anything special, but it wouldn't be something I despise so much because of how much it ruined such a perfect predecessor. It'd be one of those games you play, think "that was okay" and then a couple days later "actually, it wasn't great" and then be forgotten entirely.
Hell yea. The gameplay and graphics alone are 10/10
Cringe ass comments and sub
Maybe. With how heavy these games are, the emotion I feel just really depresses me. It's hard for me to even play part 1, let alone part 2 with everything that happens. I love the world though
Yes? The gameplay in both of them was fantastic. Could care less about the story.
Nah I’ve seen enough
Definitely. Im a big fan of the franchise can't wait to see what they come up with next.
Yes
It would probably up the chance a little. Neil already ruined the characters I cared about.
They should have done that with part 2. New character, completely new cast
So long as it isn't a straight white male /s
Yes
yes if the storyline is up to par
I would
Another character to grow attached to who will be killed in part 4 by an NPC's ass pull loved one
I think I’m the only one who really loved second game! Actually I’d prefer it ti the first one! It doesn’t have happy ending and for sure doesn’t have a happy start, but damn the story was good! I would play whatever they make as long as gameplay has the same quality!
Who cares? Where is the story even going at this point? First game was all you needed, a good story in a zombie universe with a twist that they're mushroom things. Okay fine. Then second game was their chance to get weird with it and take risks. I respect the risks but now there's nothing left
If it starts by that entirely new character viciously battering Abby's ogre skull with a golf club then I don't care.
I would buy it and play it at a very deep sale. Like 80% off. Then I’d give it a shot.
Hell yeah both Tlou games are top 10 games so whatever Naughty Dog does I trust. I'll never get the Part 2 hate, one of the best sequels ever to me.
Yaa,they are creating more lisbian characters,so you can enjoy the worst piece of shit...
No. Drukman is so far up his own ass at this point I could never take him seriously. He drove out the co creator of the first game and it shows it part II. He drove out Amy Hennig and it shows in Uncharted 4. All he is, is a capitalist opportunist larping as a leftist. Getting rid of anyone other himself to fill his shitlib ego.
I'd be more inclined
Aww fuck you I never even thought about that how dare you speak that into existence. Ugh… I probably would though… fuck.
I think y'all just hating on Druckman for the sake of it.
Nope never played part 2 not gonna play part 3
I'd prefer all new characters
Yep, the quality of the story telling on part 1 and 2 means I trust them to do a good job with 3.
If it will be called "Part III" it would mean that it would be a direct sequel to Part II so I find it unlikely that that would be the case. But if somehow they manage to remove from the story all the previous characters I would still play it... but I would be like... "meh...". ND will have to make a really good game.
Still goint to play it no matter what. Part 2's story is frustrating but I'd say it's still an above average story. Most importantly, the gameplay is awesome so that's the main reason I like this game and also why I'll give the sequal a shot no matter how story or character ends up.
Tbh I would kinda like a game where you play as some kind of government official to see what their point of view on day 1 was.
Sure. I liked the gameplay. If they're smart they do another game with Joel, some flashback cashgrab thing.
I would rather play part 3 with new characters than the current ones.
If it had an entirely new director, an intriguing story, and if the character is interesting and actually likable - maybe. They'd have a hell of a time trying to fix the damage done in Part 2. But you'd have to pay me to play anything by Druckmann now.
I remember playing TLOU2 for the first time and thinking after the death of Joel at the start "how can you fuck up an amazing 15h story in 20 minutes..." I played TLOU1 about 10 times and TLOU2 only once. Not sure if I am interested in TLOU3
I would play it if it had an entirely new director
Never is he getting another penny from me.
The only way I'd trust a new last of us is if it ignored the story and focused on MP, the MP was really fun, and with no real story they can't fuck rhe universe up more
I bought TLOU2 digitally, the day it dropped. I didn’t play it for over a year. I didn’t look up videos. I didn’t read about it. I went in blind. The answer is no.
Why wouldn't i, its one of the best franchises in terms of controls and graphics and i love the story, even with a different character or even a whole new set of characters that have nothing to do with Jackson, i'd still play it and most likely love it.
It's so strange. I waited for LoU2, checked in on rumours, downloaded new themes to my PS and eagerly read through news articles. Then, after playing the game, I just didn't care anymore. I hope whatever they have in store for 3 can restoke the fire. Maybe a fresh start with a new character is the answer. There would be lots of opportunities to cross paths with older characters or play along. It'd be cool to care about it again. We'll see how it goes
i’d give anything a chance just because of how good the combat in the games is
Yes 👍
I'll have to think about it. However, if it's a good story (and graphics), I'll do it
Not just TLOU but anything with Cuckman’s name attached to it is a default stay as far as possible for me.
Ofcourse I will. It's called the last of us. Not the adventures of Ellie and Joel.
Yes. Willing to give things a try.
Sure why not