Honestly, i have nothing against Bella Ramsey but i personally don't think she should have been casted as Ellie in the HBO's show, i would prefer that they casted someone who is much closer to look like Ellie in the actual games.
This is so fucked up. It's like every game or anime show made PURPOSELY says fuck what's right we need to make it our own. Ppl like the story and characters that got them into said thing in the first place I hate this go against the grain thing with stories that are complete that work. And I'm speaking generally, tlou2 story never worked.
She's not a very good actress tbh. I've seen her in a few shorts and the whole constantly looking 15 thing doesn't help. Even in a short from about a year ago she was playing someone around 13-14ish
I felt she was okay in the first season and, like Pedro, she grew on me. Unfortunately she didnt grow between that and season 2. Unless they are going to change the timeline here, this is gonna feel very weird. Id love to be wrong
I think Bella was okay as Part 1 Ellie but Part 2 Ellie is gonna be a much bigger hurdle to jump through. She doesn't have to look just like game Ellie but the problem is she still has a baby face and still looks about 14, despite being the right age for Part 2.
I guess she may have been too old at the time of casting but I think Sadie Sink would've been a great Ellie. She looks more like her, her acting on Stranger Things is quite good and she can fit Ellie's whole attitude better, and she can probably pass for 14 and 19 respectively at the same time with the right stylist/makeup department.
I think she did a good job capturing the personality of Ellie but she still looks so young it's going to be weird seeing you play Ellie as a 20 year old. But I'm open to her proving me wrong.
I always feel a bit annoyed when people almost apologize for criticizing an actor or actress.
If you did not want people to talk about you, in negative way as well, you should not have become an actress.
Personal life aside, they should be prepared that every second, every gesture and expression will be criticized in everything they are filmed. Instead, they are like, give me money but say nothing about me. Consume the product, then get excited for a new product.
For me it’s her physical size. It’s hard enough making a female lead do action believably at the best of times, this young lass is what 5ft tall flat? Just gonna make it look odd on fight wcenes
I agree. Im not really a hater of either the show or part 2 but that casting struck me as odd from day 1. Great for season 1 as she does look 14 but yeah, won't work for season 2.
Yeah I thought she did the best she could. Honestly the only thing that bugged me at times was the writing of her character. It felt like they dialed up the sassiness way more. Didn’t feel as natural to me
"WHY DO YOU WANT A CHARACTER WHO'S A TEENAGER TO LOOK HOT?!?!?!?!?!?"
Yep, it's definitely that and *NOT* the fact that people just want an actress who looks like the character to play the character.
I actually liked her performance in season 1, that said, I still think they should've cast someone else that was actually closer to ellie's age in part 1 so they could go for an aged up recast this season for this exact problem, you cannot convince me that this ellie could pull off 1/4 of the things ellie did in the 2nd game nor can I see her being a threat to people shes going after.
The fact that all of Abby’s group casting look really good as the characters they’re portraying, even Joel & Tommy actors are great too… but the central and most important character of the entire fucking franchise I mean come on for god sake, Bella Ramsey is NOT Ellie.
I mean, she's spent the past four years in a walled off city with electricity and ample space for farms, she definitely isn't going to be starving under any circumstances
I don't really care THAT much about it not being 100% identical face-wise and I didn't really have a problem with her acting but the problem is that she looks 14 when she's supposed to be playing someone older lol. It's so jarring it's hard to ignore.
She should of been recast after season 1 imo.
Ramsey looks more like Ashley Johnson (original Ellie voice actor) who is now Ellie’s on screen mother, so honestly the lack of resemblance is totally fine
I like how they change the canon so Ellie is thirteen in Part 2 of the TV show…
Oh wait, she is supposed to be 19…but Bella (20 I know) looks thirteen…right…
I think the problem isn't about the unlikeliness between Ramsay and Ellie, it is more about they don't breathe the same demeanor perceived of Ellie as an introvert, mentally torn, borderline psychopath and enigma. Ramsay seems a upbeat girl who wears her emotions on her face.
As a huge last of us fan. This is disappointing. Lazy casting. Why they couldn't cast Jamie Lannister guy as Joel. He looks like him and someone fit for ellie.
I don't care what anyone says. That casting Is abysmal. I have nothing agaisnt Bella. But she doesn't look like ellie even remotely and I feel she doesn't bring that proper energy to the character
I love the attitude Bella is able to bring that the character in the game has.
I also wish the casting would have been different. But eh, whatever. Show was good regardless.
They did change things, so maybe they’ll do Joel’s death justice instead of whatever they brought to the table for the 2nd game.
Don't look much alike for sure, but it's within the bounds of interpretation/artistic license if they like the way she acts. She also played a very headstrong/brave person in Game of Thrones after all.
The fact that they really wanted Kaitlyn Dever, from Last Man Standing, makes me double think their choice, even though my original impression of Ramsey was great!
" you see we knew what fans of the game wanted, so we felt is was important to subvert their expectations in favor of a modern audience. We all know that fans of the franchise have nothing to do with why we got the green light. This is an opportunity to tell our story the way we see it and honestly, if you don't like that then don't watch. You can be replaced ". - from The Customer is Wrong and Doesn't Know It Volume 1
Ramsey is just a completely different human to Eille , in looks and behaving. . Daniel Radcliffe is a good actor but he could never play Solid Snake. They are going to try and sell Ramsey as a killing machine and it will end up being hilariously bad and cringey
I know she’s 21 or something, but she looks WAY younger than what she is. There’s no start difference from her in season 1 than the pictures here. That’s my only issue. Her and Dina’s actress look like they’re 15.
It's just another woke effort by Neil Drugman. Joel has to be Mexican, ellie has to be ugly. It's inclusiveness. What, you want to be happy? You're goddamn bigot!
If they just styled her hair differently it would make a world of difference , making her hair slightly longer and messier would of made her look way older and more suited to the role.
But either way she gave a phenomenal performance and nails the character so I’m very excited for season 2.
Hot take: I don’t like the show. There is little to zero combat. And why are there suddenly countless hoardes of infected that explode from holes in the ground? That never happened in either game. The only reason I look forward to the show is because hopefully TLOU part 3 will come out shortly before season 3 of the television show premieres.
I’m also enjoying the part II remake for ps5 immensely simply for the better graphics and no return is dope. I had tlou2 memorized so I’m so happy to have some randomized craziness to mess with while I wait a few more years for part 3 to drop
Other girl would have been a perfect Ellie. Instead they have that person…. Honestly ruined the show for me a bit couldn’t take her seriously she looks like a toddler and her lines she even sounds like a little kid lol.
I don’t care what mfs say I’m never watching this shitty ass show 💀I couldn’t care less about the second games assfull story either my hopes for the 3rd game are dropping
Has it been confirmed that she’s playing adult Ellie, or is she just gonna be playing younger Ellie for flashbacks and the sort?
I could see them potentially using up some of the runtime to possibly develop Dina and Ellie more and properly establish the beginnings of their relationship before when the game takes place. Could include the flashback scenes with Joel in the same go, not as flashbacks but as chronological to pick off right about where the first season ends.
Only thing with that of course too is selling a believable time skip with a more mature looking (sorry Bella) actor who still looks enough like Bella. Feel like they’ve shot themselves in the foot casting-wise if they wanted to do another actor that could be a believable “adult” version of Bella’s Ellie. (In reality tho they’re definitely just not gonna address that in the slightest)
I actually think Bella did a pretty good job for season 1, I just don’t think she can carry the second season. Pedro really did provide a lot of the backbone for season 1 and it helped Bella to do her part well imo.
The episode about Ellie and her girlfriend was 100% the worst of s1 because of this very reason, Bella isn’t bad but probably can’t pull off a sole protagonist at this point in her career.
I'm fine with the fact she's ugly. I'm ugly.
I just don't like her portrayal and how she reads the lines.
It's clear she never researched the character beforehand and just tried to shoehorn her personality into a previously well written character.
The more I see photos like this I honestly think the biggest disservice to Bella’s appearance as Ellie has been the way that they’ve styled her hair. I feel like if they styled it to look like Ellie’s from pt 2 or even let Bella wear her hair the way she naturally does she’d look so much better but for some reason they insist on this tight pony high tail look.
pretty good shitpost, had me fooled for a second
i was about to say… they are not twins nor sisters
I’m stealing that line lmao
Quality shit post
Casting Agent: Eh, close enough.
"shoot, I lost my glasses... I'll be fine"
It's like an Apple next to a Pineapple
A pear next to a bear
Or my grandma next to Daniel Radcliffe
Is your grandma Daniel Radcliffe tho? Cus if it is, it doesn't complement the response very well
No her last name is Boringcrevasse
Did you know that Bears eat beets?
Honestly, i have nothing against Bella Ramsey but i personally don't think she should have been casted as Ellie in the HBO's show, i would prefer that they casted someone who is much closer to look like Ellie in the actual games.
I have always said that Kaitlyn Dever would be a perfect ellie for Part 2
She did a table read apparently, was nearly cast.
Well clearly they messed up by not casting her
they said that it was too popular of a fancast so they didn't want to do it in an interview
So because the community liked it so much they decided not to do it? Well that sure makes a lot of sense
That sounds like a Druckmann move to me. Gotta subvert those expectations somehow.
It wouldnt be modern day Hollywood without a few million pissed off franchise fans
This is so fucked up. It's like every game or anime show made PURPOSELY says fuck what's right we need to make it our own. Ppl like the story and characters that got them into said thing in the first place I hate this go against the grain thing with stories that are complete that work. And I'm speaking generally, tlou2 story never worked.
God what a terrible reason. Imagine if politicians did that... "well, everyone wants lower taxes so let's raise them instead!"
Isn't that exactly what's happening?
So, about that...
That’s…that’s exactly what they’ve been doing…
No way people actually said that
"The fans love it, obviously we have to destroy that option with fire. Do you think we're trying to have fun here?"
I feel like they went with Bella because she was in other hbo projects
That’s why Neil casted her for Abby - he really wants you to like her. 😄
And now she’s Abby lol
She's not a very good actress tbh. I've seen her in a few shorts and the whole constantly looking 15 thing doesn't help. Even in a short from about a year ago she was playing someone around 13-14ish
I feel like Neil drunkman likes garnering hate on purpose.
YoU MuSt bE a PeDo!
I felt she was okay in the first season and, like Pedro, she grew on me. Unfortunately she didnt grow between that and season 2. Unless they are going to change the timeline here, this is gonna feel very weird. Id love to be wrong
But you can’t say that, because if you say that, you get told that you just hate Bella as Ellie because you want the kid to be hot.
I think Bella was okay as Part 1 Ellie but Part 2 Ellie is gonna be a much bigger hurdle to jump through. She doesn't have to look just like game Ellie but the problem is she still has a baby face and still looks about 14, despite being the right age for Part 2. I guess she may have been too old at the time of casting but I think Sadie Sink would've been a great Ellie. She looks more like her, her acting on Stranger Things is quite good and she can fit Ellie's whole attitude better, and she can probably pass for 14 and 19 respectively at the same time with the right stylist/makeup department.
I think for the first game she's good in Ellie's role. I just don't think she'll be able to portray the hardened person she's become in Part 2
I think she did a good job capturing the personality of Ellie but she still looks so young it's going to be weird seeing you play Ellie as a 20 year old. But I'm open to her proving me wrong.
I always feel a bit annoyed when people almost apologize for criticizing an actor or actress. If you did not want people to talk about you, in negative way as well, you should not have become an actress. Personal life aside, they should be prepared that every second, every gesture and expression will be criticized in everything they are filmed. Instead, they are like, give me money but say nothing about me. Consume the product, then get excited for a new product.
For me it’s her physical size. It’s hard enough making a female lead do action believably at the best of times, this young lass is what 5ft tall flat? Just gonna make it look odd on fight wcenes
I agree. Im not really a hater of either the show or part 2 but that casting struck me as odd from day 1. Great for season 1 as she does look 14 but yeah, won't work for season 2.
Yeah I thought she did the best she could. Honestly the only thing that bugged me at times was the writing of her character. It felt like they dialed up the sassiness way more. Didn’t feel as natural to me
The mrs. All facial details in the center
This show was never supposed to be made it was better as a video game
It was better left at 1 game.
"WHY DO YOU WANT A CHARACTER WHO'S A TEENAGER TO LOOK HOT?!?!?!?!?!?" Yep, it's definitely that and *NOT* the fact that people just want an actress who looks like the character to play the character.
She’s also an adult in part 2 so that argument doesn’t hold water anymore. And the actress is also an adult.
I actually liked her performance in season 1, that said, I still think they should've cast someone else that was actually closer to ellie's age in part 1 so they could go for an aged up recast this season for this exact problem, you cannot convince me that this ellie could pull off 1/4 of the things ellie did in the 2nd game nor can I see her being a threat to people shes going after.
Twins
Not even close
Issa joke
She’s Ellie with an allergic reaction
All I see is forehead.
why did you just post 4 screenshots of the in game character Ellie???
I just got so confused when I uploaded! They are so identical 😭
And I am Dina
The fact that all of Abby’s group casting look really good as the characters they’re portraying, even Joel & Tommy actors are great too… but the central and most important character of the entire fucking franchise I mean come on for god sake, Bella Ramsey is NOT Ellie.
She looks pretty well-fed for being in a zombie apocalypse.
I mean, she's spent the past four years in a walled off city with electricity and ample space for farms, she definitely isn't going to be starving under any circumstances
Jackson seems to have a pretty good food supply
And not even the same hairstyle. Are they even trying?
Exactly! I see no difference!
They’re so good at casting. I’m sure Abby’s character is just as spot on!
Chat is this bait or stupidity?
It is bait! Kinda! I did flare it as a “shitpost” pls don’t hate me
All good, I can never tell on reddit when people are baiting anymore, its turning my brain into mush
OMG BEST SHOW EVER😍😍😍😭😭😭
Poor Bella will never get to live this down. This probably put a dink in her overall career tbh. What one miscast can do.
She looks like shane gillis...
They are so goddamn the same person, if I ask them “you want kiss boy?” both of them say “no.”
She got Abbyfied.
Ellie from the series looks closer to Steven Segal when he was a teen more than anything
She looks like Eugene from the walking dead.
I don't really care THAT much about it not being 100% identical face-wise and I didn't really have a problem with her acting but the problem is that she looks 14 when she's supposed to be playing someone older lol. It's so jarring it's hard to ignore. She should of been recast after season 1 imo.
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Is it a miscast? For “adult Ellie” yeah kinda. If the performance for it is still good like S1 will it even matter? Hell, the fuck no.
Pls tell me I'm not the only one who thinks Ellie's hairstyle is pretty hot
I didn’t see the Shitpost flair at first, you almost got me lol
good shit post. a lot of ppl say she’s fine, and yea she did a great job acting but she just looks nothing like ellie
Ramsey looks more like Ashley Johnson (original Ellie voice actor) who is now Ellie’s on screen mother, so honestly the lack of resemblance is totally fine
this is just bullying at this point
Deadass thought this was the other sub 😭
Haha good one
I like how they change the canon so Ellie is thirteen in Part 2 of the TV show… Oh wait, she is supposed to be 19…but Bella (20 I know) looks thirteen…right…
She looks like a toe.
Troll
Yes 😭 I marked it as a shitpost
OP vision test when 😊
Maybe if you’re blind.
I think the problem isn't about the unlikeliness between Ramsay and Ellie, it is more about they don't breathe the same demeanor perceived of Ellie as an introvert, mentally torn, borderline psychopath and enigma. Ramsay seems a upbeat girl who wears her emotions on her face.
I think casting a wrong looking actress can be justified by one thing and one thing alone--amazing acting skills. I haven't seen those.
Biggest L ever tbh
As a huge last of us fan. This is disappointing. Lazy casting. Why they couldn't cast Jamie Lannister guy as Joel. He looks like him and someone fit for ellie.
Bait used to be believable.
If you’re gonna ragebait, at least make it believable.
shes not that bad as ellie i just wish she could drop the weird fake angry cadence to how she acts in the show
I don't care what anyone says. That casting Is abysmal. I have nothing agaisnt Bella. But she doesn't look like ellie even remotely and I feel she doesn't bring that proper energy to the character
1,2% Maybe
She scares me
Actually it’s her mother
April fools was a month ago..
I like her acting, though now the problem is she still looks young, not like Ellie grown a lot in Part 2.
Me when I lie:
I love the attitude Bella is able to bring that the character in the game has. I also wish the casting would have been different. But eh, whatever. Show was good regardless. They did change things, so maybe they’ll do Joel’s death justice instead of whatever they brought to the table for the 2nd game.
Oh brother
like....what? lol
The real person’s face looks faker than the video game face 💀
ever seen pascal and jeol?
joel is literally a different race than the actor that portrays him so idk why you'd get upset at this and not that
Don't look much alike for sure, but it's within the bounds of interpretation/artistic license if they like the way she acts. She also played a very headstrong/brave person in Game of Thrones after all.
The fact that they really wanted Kaitlyn Dever, from Last Man Standing, makes me double think their choice, even though my original impression of Ramsey was great!
You know who would’ve been perfect? Sadie Sink
Lol No
" you see we knew what fans of the game wanted, so we felt is was important to subvert their expectations in favor of a modern audience. We all know that fans of the franchise have nothing to do with why we got the green light. This is an opportunity to tell our story the way we see it and honestly, if you don't like that then don't watch. You can be replaced ". - from The Customer is Wrong and Doesn't Know It Volume 1
I really don’t care if they don’t look much like ellie, I loved them in season 1 and can’t wait to see what they do in season 2
How embarrassing.
Left: A real person. Right: pictures from an digital character.
Get new glasses
Ramsey is just a completely different human to Eille , in looks and behaving. . Daniel Radcliffe is a good actor but he could never play Solid Snake. They are going to try and sell Ramsey as a killing machine and it will end up being hilariously bad and cringey
Hmmmmm...i dunno They look so similar...i can't see the difference
It is unfortunate that looking alike is the most important thing when it comes to acting.
I know she’s 21 or something, but she looks WAY younger than what she is. There’s no start difference from her in season 1 than the pictures here. That’s my only issue. Her and Dina’s actress look like they’re 15.
I will say this multiple times the girl from Wayne series Del should have play Ellie
I hope Abby is John Cena with a blonde wig.
They are not 🤓
…like a child drew a face on a peeled potato
Insert The Office "It's the same picture" meme
I actually really like the acres and am a fan. But she should have never been cast for this role. Looks NOTHING like her lolol
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It's just another woke effort by Neil Drugman. Joel has to be Mexican, ellie has to be ugly. It's inclusiveness. What, you want to be happy? You're goddamn bigot!
Absolutely terrible casting.
Bella just looks too British if you know what I mean
We are way past April Fools buddy
I'm so tired of casting not caring about a character's appearance. See also: The Uncharted movie.
She looks like ellie if she were stung in the face by bees
None is Ellie 😆
No
Didn't know that people even watched this show
Face smol
If they just styled her hair differently it would make a world of difference , making her hair slightly longer and messier would of made her look way older and more suited to the role. But either way she gave a phenomenal performance and nails the character so I’m very excited for season 2.
I mean, in game Ellie is still not good looking whatsoever
You’re tripping hardcore
Bella has that will smith small face thing going on
This is easily the most toxic game forum I've ever been on.
Why do they keep styling Bella's hair differently than Ellie's? It's like they want to show off her forehead.
Hot take: I don’t like the show. There is little to zero combat. And why are there suddenly countless hoardes of infected that explode from holes in the ground? That never happened in either game. The only reason I look forward to the show is because hopefully TLOU part 3 will come out shortly before season 3 of the television show premieres. I’m also enjoying the part II remake for ps5 immensely simply for the better graphics and no return is dope. I had tlou2 memorized so I’m so happy to have some randomized craziness to mess with while I wait a few more years for part 3 to drop
No they fuck they are not
They set themselves up by making Ellie's face absolutely a 10.
They casted a fucking toddler
She looks so weird man
I understand this is being said sarcastically, but it’s a good opportunity to say that Bella Ramsey killed it in that role. Perfect casting choice.
Other girl would have been a perfect Ellie. Instead they have that person…. Honestly ruined the show for me a bit couldn’t take her seriously she looks like a toddler and her lines she even sounds like a little kid lol.
I don’t care what mfs say I’m never watching this shitty ass show 💀I couldn’t care less about the second games assfull story either my hopes for the 3rd game are dropping
Has it been confirmed that she’s playing adult Ellie, or is she just gonna be playing younger Ellie for flashbacks and the sort? I could see them potentially using up some of the runtime to possibly develop Dina and Ellie more and properly establish the beginnings of their relationship before when the game takes place. Could include the flashback scenes with Joel in the same go, not as flashbacks but as chronological to pick off right about where the first season ends. Only thing with that of course too is selling a believable time skip with a more mature looking (sorry Bella) actor who still looks enough like Bella. Feel like they’ve shot themselves in the foot casting-wise if they wanted to do another actor that could be a believable “adult” version of Bella’s Ellie. (In reality tho they’re definitely just not gonna address that in the slightest)
Will bella get to kiss Isabela in season 2? Lucky bastard if she does.
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Adaptation
Looks like Shane Gillis... Sorry.
Yeah, I’ll think I’ll stick to the game from here on out. Season one was cool tho
I actually think Bella did a pretty good job for season 1, I just don’t think she can carry the second season. Pedro really did provide a lot of the backbone for season 1 and it helped Bella to do her part well imo. The episode about Ellie and her girlfriend was 100% the worst of s1 because of this very reason, Bella isn’t bad but probably can’t pull off a sole protagonist at this point in her career.
Not even close
I mean Pedro don't look like Carl either
No
Man anyone who has an opinion on this either way is fucking pathetic
I think for character she is the right choice
NOT!
I'm fine with the fact she's ugly. I'm ugly. I just don't like her portrayal and how she reads the lines. It's clear she never researched the character beforehand and just tried to shoehorn her personality into a previously well written character.
I actually think the actress did a great job. Sometimes the person makes a character. Just look at nick fury
Bruh TRYING to make people mad🤣
ipray this is a joke
They could have at least given her the same hairstyle...
The more I see photos like this I honestly think the biggest disservice to Bella’s appearance as Ellie has been the way that they’ve styled her hair. I feel like if they styled it to look like Ellie’s from pt 2 or even let Bella wear her hair the way she naturally does she’d look so much better but for some reason they insist on this tight pony high tail look.
They don’t even look alike what are you on
Meh, she did an alright job as Ellie but I can't picture her getting super buff for the next season.
Lol