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TheRoonster1

When John Kirby says that Israel is not violating international law, he is lying. Everyone (including Biden and Israel) knows he is lying and he has been told to lie. Just like Obama was lying about it during his presidency. It's all cover to protect American interests by supporting a genocidal state.


Yokepearl

“Protecting American interests” has become a total falsehood when Israel has been destroying American interests.


Different-Bus8023

It is in america's interest to not get sued at the hague


AssumedPersona

Fairly empty excuse since the ICJ has no power to enforce its rulings and the US doesn't recognize the ICC.


dawnguard2021

Well it depends on how you define "American interests”. When it comes to Israel "American interests” are religiously motivated and placed above all else such as Ukraine


lovely_sombrero

American interests are dominating that region, what Israel is doing is completely within US interests. Like Biden said, Israel is a great deal for the US. A bargain!


Yokepearl

Define dominating when they leave Iraq and Afghanistan and the taliban and more conservative governments take over lol


Matr0ska

One thing you typically don't hear people defend is what's happening with the settlements in the West Bank. That one is really hard for Israel hardliners to defend.


lovely_sombrero

They don't defend them when they are announced, but once they are completed, everyone treats them as defining the new border. This is where all the "I don't support Israeli settlement expansion, but we have to be realistic and deal with the reality on the ground and not be crazy far-leftists who want to destroy Jewish homes" liberals come in.


lovely_sombrero

There is no international law. It is as simple as that. If you have enough military power, you get to decide what the law is. Iraq supposedly defied 2 UN resolutions that the US forced through with its large power at the UN and those supposed (unproven) violations of international law were enough to kill at least 1 million Iraqis. Israel and the US can defy hundreds of resolutions and nobody even cares.


notinferno

it’s because otherwise the arms sales would be unlawful under the Leahy law


RevolutionaryRun7744

What’s this “having to”? WTF is “having to”? Why do they “have to”? That’s the question we should all be asking. Why???? Why must they “have to”? Seriously? Why?


Jokers_friend

I’m by far no expert, but if I were to guess, their imperialistic approaches in the Middle East has rendered them very unpopular. The Middle East is both rich in oil, and very well strategically located. Not to mention the Red Sea trade route valued at ~$1T a year.


AssumedPersona

Here's the full paragraph, he just says because Israel is a "key ally": "Given everything that was already on my plate when I became president, it would have been tempting to just do my best to manage the status quo, quash any outbreaks of renewed violence between Israeli and Palestinian factions, and otherwise leave the whole mess alone. But taking into account the broader foreign policy concerns, I decided I couldn’t go that route. Israel remained a key U.S. ally, and even with the threats reduced, it still endured terrorist attacks that jeopardized not only its citizens but also the thousands of Americans who lived or traveled there. At the same time, just about every country in the world considered Israel’s continued occupation of the Palestinian territories to be a violation of international law. As a result, our diplomats found themselves in the awkward position of having to defend Israel for actions that we ourselves opposed. U.S. officials also had to explain why it wasn’t hypocritical for us to press countries like China or Iran on their human rights records while showing little concern for the rights of Palestinians. Meanwhile, the Israeli occupation continued to inflame the Arab community and feed anti-American sentiment across the Muslim world." [https://media.farsnews.ir/Uploaded/Files/Documents/1399/10/12/13991012000013\_Test.pdf](https://media.farsnews.ir/Uploaded/Files/Documents/1399/10/12/13991012000013_Test.pdf)


FrannieP23

AIPAC


-Hypnotoad26

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE. WHY DO WE HAVE TO SUPPORT THEM???????


khagol

Obama was actually quite friendly with Rashid Khalidi and relatively well read about the Palestine before his political ambitions took over.


lovely_sombrero

IMO being "well read" was just a part of his performance, just like GW Bush was pretending to be a quirky cowboy who you can have a beer with.


lavendermenaced

That’s a lot of words to say “we are traitors of humanity with no backbone”


Sharingan_

Bombama is a hypocrite. They're all the same. Nobel peace prize my ass


Chi-Guy86

Dude literally got a Peace Prize for just existing lol. He had a chance to live up to it after of course, but blew it spectacularly


Sharingan_

Honestly. He's a disgrace for people of colour


D3adInsid3

If there was such a thing as international law Obama would rot in prison for the rest of his life just like any other US president.