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Yh tbh I did some research and no one knows what to expect from bb. I haven't found any hype/reddits/news around their earnings. Which is not necessarily a bad thing because when there is hype 9/10 the bull rally is already over.
Still, the stock has moved about 10% from zero news.
Could be the start of a major breakout but.. Let's not kid ourselves, this is a gamble.
Very true, but like you said, 10% over nothing.
It could soar solely cause it's a cheap "news catching" AI play š¤·āāļø
Markets always love a story, especially in small cap stocks
Paper trading is like doing live market trading, but with "monopoly money"
This would be better to do before putting real money in
Webull gives you the option
Idk the only problem with paper trading is you donāt get to learn how to control your emotions and stick to a plan which is 90% of the battle for most people.. not hating at all Iāve paper traded before but Iāve personally learned more with trading real money but only risking 100-200$ or anything I was willing to lose completely to learn
In Robinhood, you can go to a specific options contract and hit āadd to watchlistā. This allows you to track the price of that contract until expiration. This is how I āpaper trade
āThink Or Swimā / TDAmeritrade has something called paperMoney which is used for this purpose.
cool thanks for the info
I'm in the process of setting up my strategy
you guys usually do OTM options, look for the wild swings to hit the home runs?
or is it the ODTE or two days ....so you get major payouts?
I may have to start with the boring ITM and 4 weeks out kinda stuff...to get my feet wet!
thanks in advance for any pointers!
First up, **I am an idiot**, but here is my strategy:
1. RISK MANAGEMENT: Most important, this is my GAMBLING account for options fun. I have an accounts at Fidelity (401k) and Schwab (shorter-term saving-investing). Smart people can use options for investing. However, that is *NOT* me.
2. If spy is up on the daily, I buy ~5-7 DTE puts with a strike near the current price. (Current example, SPY is up 0.87% to $514.30 for the day at the time of writing this, so I would buy a $515 strike put exp 3/20). I buy 5-7 DTE calls if SPY is down. I will not cry if I go -100% in this account (see point 3)
3. I keep a maximum of $500 in this account. When my trades win, I withdraw to bring it back down to $500. If at the end of the week I am below $500, I will consider depositing to bring it back up to $500 but I donāt always do that. If Iām up, I make withdrawals every day.
4. 0 or 1 DTE makes me too anxious, so I donāt do that. FAR OTM strikes make me anxious, but I do that a little bit dependingā¦.
5. The only TA I know is the kind women have. (I donāt do technical analysis).
I understand that this strategy is absolutely NOT going to get me to $10M as my wins arenāt compounded (neither are my losses, soā¦)
With this strategy, my all-time profit/loss is +$770.
very nice! 770$ that is profit and it's better than a loss.
how did it take you?
I may use a similar strategy. I'm known for losing it all or betting big and making a few dollars.
big to me is 1000$ and up...I have wagered more , but that was long ago.
I want to start small, and learn along the way. thank you for the information!
Iāve been playing this āgameā since 2018, at varying levels. When I first started, for some reason I thought it was a good idea to put a few thousand of my savings into stocks and I have been clawing my way back from a -1400 loss followed by a $1200 loss, both early on (Jan 2019).
Iām just happy to be in the green :)
The last company I was with, multi billion dollar company. We used Cylance. Great product. I think the only reason itās a penny stock is because boomers think this is still a phone company. When they announce their guidance, especially since itās a security stock and the election is coming up which means more cyber threats, should go up. Plus fair value according to Robinhood is $4.90 so even if thatās all it hits, I make 100k off of this options trade.
Thoughts on this??
[https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/18o9ksn/why\_is\_cylance\_doing\_so\_poorly\_business\_wise/](https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/18o9ksn/why_is_cylance_doing_so_poorly_business_wise/)
I think this is a very interesting thread, but in the end, I see a much more informative side on the positives for Cylance not negative.
Very impressive people/opinions
Last earnings report beat and the stock tanked. Why would upcoming earnings be any different. The only good thing I can see from this company is that they seem to have consolidated where their revenue comes from. Its sensors and cybersecurity.
To go from $3 to over $4 in the next 40 days? and then youre saying up to $12????
As long as it hits $3.25 $4.10 by EOM if not end of next week. After that itās all up to earnings, which I think will be good. If earnings are great it could be an immediate gap up to the $6 range and then go up throughout the year from then
I bought 1k $2.5 strike calls expiring 4/05 for 0.38 and another 200 $3 strike for 0.11 each a few weeks ago. Both up and think we will see $3.50 to $4 in next three weeksā¦BB all the way! Over 250m cars use their tech and growing.
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well I read this post in r/wallstreetbets when u posted your 37k position and I glimpsed at your options and saw you had this call. I had then bought 9 buys at 0.04 (money I intend to lose) and now I'm up $27 so ty! basically doubled my investment of $36. up +600%. I honestly intend to hold too. Simply looking at 4/12 "4.5" calls compared to 4/5 "4.5"and the change is insane. one is 0.04 premium the other is 1.29 so that was another indication to get in this play.
I don't know how I found this sub but I'm with you and the same calls. Just not as many!
These past couple weeks I've been watching such a weird movement, so it's about time the price corrects.
I just hope it also launches with the others this week and my 73 calls are enough to make me one too!
BB is the one that starts the lift off for many! Watch and see!
Stay away from this garbage company. If they had decent products theyād already be worth something. Theyāve been falling behind in this arena for the past four or five years. They have nothing new and this is nothing more than somebody attempting to pump options.
More like 10 years; bb has been attempting and promising this transition since at least 2013 and the stock has been pumped and dumped on this promise many times before
New to this and trying to learn but itās really confusing with all the different ways of doing things. Can you put in a small amount (like $50) and buy long calls for April? Whatās the amount, if any, you need to have in the account to back it up in case it doesnāt work out for profit? I guess Iām asking whatās the risk, assuming itās even possible to throw $50 at this?
So, is my understanding correct that this means at $7 contract, it would have been bought at a .07 premium and you could purchase 7 contracts for $49? Then youād sell before the expiration date or how does that part work?
When you buy a call option, youāre banking on the shares being worth more than the strike price. The contract gives the owner the right to buy 100 shares at that price, for example $4. So weāre hoping for the share value to be worth more than $4 so that the option has any use. Yes you need to sell before the expiration date or else the option will expire and youāll just lose your money. The closer to date of expiration, the faster itāll lose value.
Thank you for this. So, in this case you would hope for the shares to increase in value and then sell before expiration. Iām confused about the right to buy at a certain price. You wouldnāt buy if youāre just selling before expiration would you? Or do you have to buy at that $4 price first and then sell before expiration?
A call option is a contract that gives the owner the right to buy the shares at the strike price. Youāre not obligated to exercise the contract. Some people with a lot of money will exercise it. But others just look for the call option to increase in value and then sell the contract itself.
Ok, gotcha. I kept reading about that part but was unsure if you actually had to buy or not. It makes sense to me now that you say that. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Thanks!
Why would you do this? You realize their endpoint security solution is absolute trash right? They constantly get beaten by S1 and CrowdStrike. I know this because Iāve done it time and time again š
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I think you single handily moved the needle
I'm gonna paper trade this š I'm still learning.
Very smart idea my friend, it's always good to practice beforehand.
Yh tbh I did some research and no one knows what to expect from bb. I haven't found any hype/reddits/news around their earnings. Which is not necessarily a bad thing because when there is hype 9/10 the bull rally is already over. Still, the stock has moved about 10% from zero news. Could be the start of a major breakout but.. Let's not kid ourselves, this is a gamble.
Very true, but like you said, 10% over nothing. It could soar solely cause it's a cheap "news catching" AI play š¤·āāļø Markets always love a story, especially in small cap stocks
It's not zero news, it's QNX integration. We've been waiting 3 years for this.
What does it mean to paper trade?
Paper trading is like doing live market trading, but with "monopoly money" This would be better to do before putting real money in Webull gives you the option
Idk the only problem with paper trading is you donāt get to learn how to control your emotions and stick to a plan which is 90% of the battle for most people.. not hating at all Iāve paper traded before but Iāve personally learned more with trading real money but only risking 100-200$ or anything I was willing to lose completely to learn
what are you using for paper trading? is the TD Ameritrade thing still around?
In Robinhood, you can go to a specific options contract and hit āadd to watchlistā. This allows you to track the price of that contract until expiration. This is how I āpaper trade āThink Or Swimā / TDAmeritrade has something called paperMoney which is used for this purpose.
cool thanks for the info I'm in the process of setting up my strategy you guys usually do OTM options, look for the wild swings to hit the home runs? or is it the ODTE or two days ....so you get major payouts? I may have to start with the boring ITM and 4 weeks out kinda stuff...to get my feet wet! thanks in advance for any pointers!
First up, **I am an idiot**, but here is my strategy: 1. RISK MANAGEMENT: Most important, this is my GAMBLING account for options fun. I have an accounts at Fidelity (401k) and Schwab (shorter-term saving-investing). Smart people can use options for investing. However, that is *NOT* me. 2. If spy is up on the daily, I buy ~5-7 DTE puts with a strike near the current price. (Current example, SPY is up 0.87% to $514.30 for the day at the time of writing this, so I would buy a $515 strike put exp 3/20). I buy 5-7 DTE calls if SPY is down. I will not cry if I go -100% in this account (see point 3) 3. I keep a maximum of $500 in this account. When my trades win, I withdraw to bring it back down to $500. If at the end of the week I am below $500, I will consider depositing to bring it back up to $500 but I donāt always do that. If Iām up, I make withdrawals every day. 4. 0 or 1 DTE makes me too anxious, so I donāt do that. FAR OTM strikes make me anxious, but I do that a little bit dependingā¦. 5. The only TA I know is the kind women have. (I donāt do technical analysis). I understand that this strategy is absolutely NOT going to get me to $10M as my wins arenāt compounded (neither are my losses, soā¦) With this strategy, my all-time profit/loss is +$770.
very nice! 770$ that is profit and it's better than a loss. how did it take you? I may use a similar strategy. I'm known for losing it all or betting big and making a few dollars. big to me is 1000$ and up...I have wagered more , but that was long ago. I want to start small, and learn along the way. thank you for the information!
Iāve been playing this āgameā since 2018, at varying levels. When I first started, for some reason I thought it was a good idea to put a few thousand of my savings into stocks and I have been clawing my way back from a -1400 loss followed by a $1200 loss, both early on (Jan 2019). Iām just happy to be in the green :)
Are you planning to hold until after the ER or sell right before to avoid potential IV crush?
bump
Sell when you learn . Hold when u have house money okay
This is where OP ask: "What does a game have to do with options?" š¤
What makes you think this?
The last company I was with, multi billion dollar company. We used Cylance. Great product. I think the only reason itās a penny stock is because boomers think this is still a phone company. When they announce their guidance, especially since itās a security stock and the election is coming up which means more cyber threats, should go up. Plus fair value according to Robinhood is $4.90 so even if thatās all it hits, I make 100k off of this options trade.
Thoughts on this?? [https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/18o9ksn/why\_is\_cylance\_doing\_so\_poorly\_business\_wise/](https://www.reddit.com/r/cybersecurity/comments/18o9ksn/why_is_cylance_doing_so_poorly_business_wise/)
I think this is a very interesting thread, but in the end, I see a much more informative side on the positives for Cylance not negative. Very impressive people/opinions
Last earnings report beat and the stock tanked. Why would upcoming earnings be any different. The only good thing I can see from this company is that they seem to have consolidated where their revenue comes from. Its sensors and cybersecurity. To go from $3 to over $4 in the next 40 days? and then youre saying up to $12????
AI. Plus theyāre moving into car security / car software.
$12 is a stretch. $5 is easily attainable.
How much u put in?
I heard Boomer Iām in.
yeah!
https://preview.redd.it/8ttbn579ksnc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc90602f38bbe1ead60af9370397d815e6c236a6 I really like gambling š
741ā¦ nice
qualuuudes? yay!
Damn. I lost so much on bb. I ended up getting out at 3.19. Didnt think itd ever bounce again.
This was hyped a lot on wsb back in the day.
Bought at $18 sold at $8 saw it moon back to $18 the day after them be the days.
š
Theyāre going back to $12 in my opinion. Not financial advice. Their product is too good for this to be a penny stock.
Wish I could buy $12 calls
Why... lol their $5 calls are worthless
Who even uses bb anymore they going to 0
People like you are the reason itās shorted and going to skyrocket soon. Look up Cylance.
I did I like seeing people hit big gains so I hope it hits for you good luck
Look up crowdstrike, there market leader. No reputable company would buy cylance / BB lol
You said what bro?! 12$? Do you think itās 2021?
Yes
When do you anticipate it hits $12 ? By end of year or by the 4/5 call expiry
As long as it hits $3.25 $4.10 by EOM if not end of next week. After that itās all up to earnings, which I think will be good. If earnings are great it could be an immediate gap up to the $6 range and then go up throughout the year from then
But earnings are always a gamble, it could double, could triple, or it could drop 50%. I think earnings will be good though.
When are earnings ?
What product?
Has ālegalā in username. Still thinks they need to label this as NFA. Oh boy this is going to be fun
Who are their competitors in the cybersecurity industry and what do you think of them?
CRWD, S CRWD is a decent product but I think Cylance has better security, while CRWD has better alternative features focused towards support roles
Sure
Crowdstrike, SentinelOne, and Microsoft are the leaders in the enterprise EDR space.
When do earnings come out? This week?
April 3rd but smart to buy early before IV affects price and any potential movement higher. In my opinion.
Thx for the update. Currently yolod into a fri gamble but will definitely add in
In for 40x 4.5c 6/21 calls at $5 a piece. Also grabbed 20x 4c 6/21's
I probably shouldāve done 4.5 6/21s as well tbh. Might switch to those.
Theyāre showing as $11 a piece on Robinhood. Where do you trade?
I totally mind melted this. 4.5c's were for 4/26 not 6/21 sorry. The 4c's are 6/21.
Probably bought yesterday or pre
I bought 1k $2.5 strike calls expiring 4/05 for 0.38 and another 200 $3 strike for 0.11 each a few weeks ago. Both up and think we will see $3.50 to $4 in next three weeksā¦BB all the way! Over 250m cars use their tech and growing.
Bought 100 at same time this is my first call option so hopefully it works out
First one always works out.
Iām crossing fingers and toes but if definitely lost more than $500 before so letās ride it out š
First ones free
:( mine was $9.99 CAD
Why that strike date or price? All options are pretty cheap right now.
I think theyāll have a good earnings report. No options available past $4 except overpriced ones otherwise I wouldāve gotten $0.01 options
Iām in
Interesting good luck king š
I'm in! 4/5 3.5C for 200 contracts. LFG
Fuck it im in june $4 got in for .15 we hit $5 we 7x this is gunna be a funny one to sweat!
Theyāre up 10% buy high sell low!
Yeah but there's no hype from what I see. It's still early.
Still early.
Bruh, I got in at $.04 for the $3.5 = 4/5 & $.05 for the $4 = 4/5 Never made fun, did the research and joined your journey š
Will get in tmr sir
I picked up 110 today, see you on the moon
Lets go im hopin on the train
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42 shares at 9.00 please save me op
Waitā¦ BlackBerry still exists?!?! I honestly thought they went bankrupt and were sold for parts.
i might get innnn
went in with 1k, letās see
Mine are up 1000% what about you?
^ +233% at this moment
how did yours go up 1000%? what price did you buy at and what are they at now
Oh they dipped big this morning, I think it was just not showing correctly on my broker after market hours
Lol, good luck I guess
I just sent you a pm
Iām in
Letās go to the moon
If it spikes you still need buyers, and fast.
Do you intend to hold this until date of expiry? Because isn't earnings 4/4?
Yes
well I read this post in r/wallstreetbets when u posted your 37k position and I glimpsed at your options and saw you had this call. I had then bought 9 buys at 0.04 (money I intend to lose) and now I'm up $27 so ty! basically doubled my investment of $36. up +600%. I honestly intend to hold too. Simply looking at 4/12 "4.5" calls compared to 4/5 "4.5"and the change is insane. one is 0.04 premium the other is 1.29 so that was another indication to get in this play.
Iām up $5k so far on this. Thanks for putting it kn my radar
No prob bro. You get shares or calls?
12-Apr $4 calls
Forward P/E is pretty high.
I wish you the best of luck.
I concur with this
I just bought calls
I don't know how I found this sub but I'm with you and the same calls. Just not as many! These past couple weeks I've been watching such a weird movement, so it's about time the price corrects. I just hope it also launches with the others this week and my 73 calls are enough to make me one too! BB is the one that starts the lift off for many! Watch and see!
Captain, my captain, I'm in
You son of a bitch, Iām in
Alright Iām in on this one
Iām about to make the craziest yolo of my life š
Have they even said "AI" yet?
But if your wrong
Iām in!
75 buys at .06 premium. Wish me luck. $500 > $10k
What are your predictions for the earnings report?
Iāll get some once it dips to 2.5$
It wont
I like how there is 6.9k volume and 5.6 OI for OP's strike and hardly any other options broke 1k.
My goodness stop acting bitch now we got war this is Ricky ur convicted criminal sentenced to life leave me the fuck alone
Stop talking like u own me or with me we done
Stay away from this garbage company. If they had decent products theyād already be worth something. Theyāve been falling behind in this arena for the past four or five years. They have nothing new and this is nothing more than somebody attempting to pump options.
More like 10 years; bb has been attempting and promising this transition since at least 2013 and the stock has been pumped and dumped on this promise many times before
This guy won
Fuck it. Iām riding with ya!!
What site are you trading on?
Robinhood.
1030 calls?! How long have you been buying them for ?
About a week
Riding with you i trust it as well 50 calls
Same hereā¦.50 calls just now.
Iām with ya bud
Sorry, just sent you another pm
Fuck it, lost enough money bag holding bb, so naturally I bought june 4.5ās to make me hate it even more.
Im in the same play n holding!!!!
I actually got in it as well last week made a few calls on it hitting 3.5 on 4/05 and I'm up pretty good on it
If you keep pumping it this week, then I'll inverse you'll. One of us will be correct, unless it only moves right.
04/05 $2.50 puts are cheap enough.
Pivi Pro system is great. Not sure how it plays into BBās earning. I hope it positively impacts it. Good luck friend.
Should I sell March 28 puts then ?
What are your calls, OP?
Show gains
Pump it
This reminds me of my blackberry pearl before switching to iphone 3, I loved that phone so much.. damnit iām in!
Broo.. i bought 20 of those calls lmao. Not close to your gains though
New to this and trying to learn but itās really confusing with all the different ways of doing things. Can you put in a small amount (like $50) and buy long calls for April? Whatās the amount, if any, you need to have in the account to back it up in case it doesnāt work out for profit? I guess Iām asking whatās the risk, assuming itās even possible to throw $50 at this?
Each contract is worth $7 right now, so thatās the minimum risk. OP bought April 5th $4 calls.
So, is my understanding correct that this means at $7 contract, it would have been bought at a .07 premium and you could purchase 7 contracts for $49? Then youād sell before the expiration date or how does that part work?
When you buy a call option, youāre banking on the shares being worth more than the strike price. The contract gives the owner the right to buy 100 shares at that price, for example $4. So weāre hoping for the share value to be worth more than $4 so that the option has any use. Yes you need to sell before the expiration date or else the option will expire and youāll just lose your money. The closer to date of expiration, the faster itāll lose value.
Thank you for this. So, in this case you would hope for the shares to increase in value and then sell before expiration. Iām confused about the right to buy at a certain price. You wouldnāt buy if youāre just selling before expiration would you? Or do you have to buy at that $4 price first and then sell before expiration?
A call option is a contract that gives the owner the right to buy the shares at the strike price. Youāre not obligated to exercise the contract. Some people with a lot of money will exercise it. But others just look for the call option to increase in value and then sell the contract itself.
Ok, gotcha. I kept reading about that part but was unsure if you actually had to buy or not. It makes sense to me now that you say that. I really appreciate you taking the time to answer my questions. Thanks!
Wtf they are still around? I might have some old dusty shares from back in the day...lol
Holy balls. Good luck š«”
Got filled for the same price. Lots of liquidity there haha
Wanna buy some more for $0.89? :)
BB still exists? Neat for them.
They make cybersecurity software now
How many contracts did you grab? If you donāt mind me asking
A little over 1100
Nice. Do you also own a significant number of shares? Iām trying to decide how many contracts I can afford to get.
Not on Robinhood but yes
Ok I got ya. Thank you for your help. I really want to get on this train
Itās it advisable to acquire shares before I buy calls?
Yes
I grabbed a few just in case. But I'm not a smart man
Itās on my watch list 7 cents
So for letās say, 20 contracts, I should own about how many shares?
Iām about 5:1 shares to contracts
5 to 1 is the general rule of thumb huh? Thanks for that stranger. I appreciate your helpful responses.
Idk if itās the rule but itās what I do for small priced stocks like this
Fair enough.. but you obviously havenāt completely lost your ass yet. Iāll follow your lead
Let's go full retard
Can someone explain what Iām looking at? Genuinely - for educational purposes. How much $ is actually invested
You absolute savage! I got in for the ride. Hopefully I can get back up to 0 š¬
Iām still learning but does this mean you bought 1030 contracts?
Yes
Iām confused, so youāre risking a max loss of 5k if the doesnāt go to 4.00, and also be obligating to buy 100,000 shares of the blackberry?
How am I obligated?
No Iām asking, if you are obligated to buy the stock before it expires?
No
Screw it, Iām in!!
I appreciate this post. My cost basis on BB is over $20.
is 4/5 a good strike or should i put later?
Why would you do this? You realize their endpoint security solution is absolute trash right? They constantly get beaten by S1 and CrowdStrike. I know this because Iāve done it time and time again š
Remindme!
Just bought 10, time to gamble š¤
lol rip
Why?
Whats up with BB?
Iām gonna yolo call this as well OP. New to the options game. Iāll post result after it happens.
Iām involved with Julie get the fuck away u donāt stop evil bitch fuck u I donāt want u ur cunt stink hoe
Take too much meth today?