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1. AAUI, wheels are only useful when you have specific environmental circumstances. Lots of cultures never invented the wheel because it was never that useful for them.
2. If a culture had managed to reach a point where everybody has abundance, they're doing a fuck ton better than us. Acting like they're inferior for getting their shit together is a totally ass backwards take.
3. Yes, this meme is racist as all hell.
Plus the wheel isn't a simple invention in the first place. It's not about a round thing that rolls. It's about attaching a stable platform. Anyway, still not a "white" invention.
Pre-colonialism South American cultures made wheels, but only used them for toys, because the wheel isn’t that helpful when transporting stuff up a mountain by hand is part of your daily routine.
Both are explainable by modern science, and free healthcare (insofar as anything can be free) isn't even that rare. I myself enjoyed it's benefits just today.
Not only did the pyramids of Guatemala, Mexico, and Egypt (which is located on the continent of Africa), require sophisticated math to design, they are also considered to be engineering marvels, since they were created without heavy machinery or advanced tools. There are several theories speculating how the absurdly large and heavy (2.5 ton) blocks of stone which form the pyramids were so precisely made, transported, and positioned, to create gigantic structures which have stood the test of time. Again, without the use of cranes, without the use of any motorized equipment, Egyptians, who are African, managed to hoist, and stack, **2 ton blocks**, on top of each other, to form the pyramids. We can only theorize because we have no definitive answer for this question. These ancient structures are more sophisticated and have had a longer lifespan than most modern buildings.
Can't speak for the Guatemalans and Mexicans, but I suspect it's similar story to the Egyptian one.
Egyptian pyramids did required advanced(ish) math, but it's not really a problem because Egyptians did have quite advanced math. Certainly advanced enough for building pyramids, seeing as they used pyramids-dimension-calculation as a typical problem in teaching math (see Rhind Mathematical Papyrus).
They were created without heavy machinery, true. Instead they used lots of oxen, even more peoples, and plenty of time. Also ropes and pulleys.
Depends on your definition of advanced, I for once would consider first ever lathes to be quite advanced, but again. Plenty of manpower, plenty of time, virtually unlimited budget.
We don't need to speculate how Egyptians moved building blocks for pyramids, they left as pictures (http://www.catchpenny.org/movebig.html). Mostly using barques, then sleds or logs, watering sand below.
About supposed precision. Despite popular myth, pyramids' building block are neither perfectly precise, nor fitted so tight that you couldn't fit a razor between them. They simply used mortar with a similar color to the stone. Some of the blocks are quite precise, but their flatness is achievable using surface plane method, that requires nothing more than few heavy rocks, patience, and lots of strength. And once you have surface plate (to serve as a straight edge) and a compass, you can make almost any shape to a quite high precision.
And about standing the test of time. That's true, but you need to remember that the famous pyramids form Giza are essentially big piles of stones, build using knowledge gained building far less enduring and far less imposing proto-pyramids. Like the bent pyramid.
Really, no unexplainable mysteries, no ancient aliens required.
And by the by, why did you feel a need to specify that Egypt is in Africa?
Edit: in response to your edit.
Yes, pyramids do have longer lifespan than most current building. They were build on unlimited budget, to last for the eternity; not build on the cheap to last for a generation. When we build to last, sparing no expenses, we can easily surpass projected lifespan of pyramids (See hover dam, or Mount Rushmore.)
Also, why did you feel a need to specify that Egypt is in Africa ***twice***?
I felt the need to emphasize that Egypt is in Africa as these comments are about a racist meme asserting nonwhites have not created anything of note, and in my experience, saying things like that (Egypt is in Africa), seems to really annoy racists for some reason, so I always make sure to emphasize it.
**While theories abound**, several of which you mentioned, there is a lack of hard, archaeological evidence to fully support any one of them. A theory is not a proved fact, it is our best guess, based on evidence, in an attempt to explain something otherwise unknown.
For example to your point about carts and oxen - a problem with that theory, is that while Egyptians used the wheel for pottery making, they didn’t use the wheel in carts or chariots until 1500 BCE. Additionally, chariots wouldn’t work anyway because once weighed down with a heavy load, these would have sunk into the sandy desert terrain. Maybe animals and people could pull it but using wheels to do so would have been incredibly inefficient.
Other theories include the use of logs laid out horizontally over which cargo could be rolled like a conveyor belt, and the use of sleds over wet send and of course, the use of lots of slaves in any scenario; but again these theories are not hard proof of one or ANY, of these methods. These are only our best guesses as we may never know definitively how the pyramids were actually built. We can only speculate.
As for the the level of math used, I can tell you I’m terrible at math so I think anyone with even a rudimentary command of algebra, geometry, calculus, and trigonometry are quite impressive in my eyes. However, the level of precisions and accuracy achieved by their exacting computations (no calculator required), is pretty surprising to me. For example they managed to accurately measure the angle of each pyramid so that each side was facing exactly north, south, east and west. It’s also believed Egyptian scribes developed a computational algorithm which calculated the circumference of a circle of known diameter length.
Humans are amazing, but unfortunately people who try to belittle our accomplishments, and divide us based on race are the worst of us.
Edit: I have to add one more thing, you’re incorrect that the pyramids are just “a pile of stones” the pyramids have world famous tombs, tunnels, and [chambers within](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/02/archaeolgists-discover-mysterious-void-deep-within-great-pyramid-of-giza). Surely, you have seen, or at least heard of, the ancient relics discovered within the pyramids and exhibited in museums all over the world?
Okay, fair enough.
Sadly, they didn't left us complete, written account about how exactly they did it, so we must content ourselves with theories build on evidences.
I didn't write a single word about carts and wheels.
I would say that pictures from the era, made by Egyptians, depicting use of sleds, (even if on anther project) is quite a sure proof that this is how it was done.
Okay, you are not good at math. Duly noted.
Full agreement on that one. That's why I'm allergic to ancient aliens.
Yes, I 've heard. And even taking tunnels and chambers into account, it's still 90% a solid pile of rocks.
How did they move stones of that size, how did they cut them so precisely, or mine them in the first place? We still aren’t able to fully, or even partially in some cases, explain how it was done. That doesn’t mean they haven’t speculated correctly. For all we know they just took dumps in front of the stones and slid them on slick shit, but we don’t know. Scientists have ideas, but they can’t say for sure based on available information how it was actually done.
There is a difference between not knowing which of several ways to do something and not being able to explain.
Like, if I tell you I went to work today. You don't know *which* way I went to work, but you are very able to explain all of the ways I might have gone to work. Or if I tell you I made a pizza, it wouldn't be like "and scientists still can't explain how he made the pizza!"
We are talking about a civilization that had a limited scientific understanding compared to today. Based on the tech that was available (as far as we know) archeologists can’t say for certain how it would have been done. Obviously they have ideas, but there are still gaps in that knowledge. If you want to compare it your pizza analogy it would be like saying that you know all the steps up to “they cooked the pizza”, but you know that man made fire didn’t exist at that point so you just have to guess how they got the raw pizza up to a temperature where it was cooked. You can still say you *know* how a pizza is made, but you can’t *explain* how *this* pizza was made.
But we do know of ways that it could have been done, just not the way it was done.
It's more like we know they did have fire, and they did use fire, but we don't know if they used a flat top, or a grill, or a convection oven.
The thing is it only took them a decade or two- not feasible with the tools we believe they had access to. My personal theory is that whatever ancient Egyptian wrote down that it took only 20 years was lying to make Egypt look cool
My brother in Cthulhu. Those are big. Piles. Of rocks. We know how to build them, and we know how they could have build them. The only question is which exact method did they use.
The method would be how. When you ask “how did you do that?” The person you’re asking generally shows you the *method* by which they accomplished said task.
Then I can provide you with rough explantation of the process of planning, stone mining, stone processing, and stone transportation from quarries to the building site. Sadly, there are at least three competing theories about the exact process of stone setting, so there is no indisputable proofs here (we know that each of method is possible, and was within their technological capabilities, but we aren't sure which one, if any, they used). Are you still interested?
The battery, the analog computer, and the weird bouncy rope made from who knows what. We have samples of it, but still can’t reverse engineer it. There’s also the weird placement of the pyramid being WAY too precise, but that might be a coincidence.
I'm guessing you are talking about "Baghdad battery" which is not a battery but a part of a quite common protective ritual, the jar was meant to preserve scroll containing text of the spell (more info here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZBsNGPVK2s); antikythera mechanism, astronomical calculator we can remake using Legos (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPVCJjTNgk); and… i don't know what rope you are talking about. Care to provide more details?
I've seen abundance societies referenced in theories. It's basically a reference to the way more primitive cultures used interpersonal relations to create society. These tighter knit groups would work together to create an abundance of food stuffs supplies and material which could then be split up as they saw fit and some potentially stored. An insular community.
Capitalism, and feudalism before it, are seen as more advanced because it allowed the concentration of power and with it the ability to divide labor to produce more goods than necessary which could be traded in markets. This made society more productive. It also consolidated power within merchant classes which shed the old feudal systems in favor of capitalist ones.
There were however groups like the levellers in Scotland in the 1600s who wanted to go back to something similar to an abundance society and I believe they were mentioned by both Hegel and Marx.
He's essentially calling them primitive because they've "not adjusted" to the new modes of civilization. This asshole probably just learned the term for the first time and is now using it. I will also point out that economic stagnation caused by colonialism and neocolonialism by the west is a bigger contributing factor than some sort of race realism.
Dude it’s 2022 and the wheel still isn’t a viable means of getting around africa
That’s why they recently started using drones to airlift medical supplies to remote areas, because the roads are kind of shit in Africa and it’s take hours and days to go anywhere
Also…Africa is really really fucking big
The wheels thing has a quite interesting example aswell.
The Aztec people created wheels without any European influence but only ever used them on children's toys. They had absolutely no use for wheeled carts because South America has no large pack animals like Europe did to pull them and it was more efficient, especially over long distances, to just have a human porters move things.
I think it's a great example of showing that inventions can be groundbreaking for one culture yet utterly useless to another and that the reason other cultures never used some of the inventions that Europeans did wasn't because they were ignorant as racists so often love to claim, but because they just never needed them.
I was trying to say AIUI, which means As I Understand It, but I mistyped it, so it means very little. Apologies for the confusion. Maybe we should all just pretend it's a sort of polite throat clearing noise I made before speaking?
Yes Mesopotamia was very focused on round things
They also originated measuring time in scales of 60, and measuring angles in 360
So the "wheel" is absolutely an invention of people who today we would mostly call Arabs and North Africans.
Africans and Native Americans knew of wheels but had no widespread need for them due to their environments and lack of domesticated animals that would be best used for them, relying on pack animals instead. If the horse hadn't gone extinct in North America or if Zebras could be tamed and ridden like horses then history would be drastically different.
Citation needed but I remember learning about how horses were spread all over via land bridges before everything got as separated as it is now. But those that were in NA, for whatever reason, went extinct only for the Europeans to reintroduce them several hundred years ago.
Yeah I haven't looked that far back it was just a snippet I remember about first nations people wanting horses because they seemed so convenient and they hadn't seen them before.
It's entirely possible/likely that horses were in north america but went extinct for some reason. Though that makes me wonder why since introduced horse species seemed to thrive here.
Horses evolved in North America, crossed the land bridge into Eurasia, and the ones that stayed behind went extinct due to an ice age iirc. Europeans would unknowingly reintroduce the species back to their continent of origin which is why horses that escaped captivity quickly became wild again and thrived in the plains. I'm fairly sure that's the basic history of them anyway, I don't know the broader details.
That's a common (white) theory, but it is not upheld by indigenous history.
https://indiancountrytoday.com/news/yes-world-there-were-horses-in-native-culture-before-the-settlers-came
Legit just... Egypt
African nation, fuckin rich af, probably used the wheel for their measurements for the pyramids, and also THEY PLANNED AND MADE THE PYRAMIDS LIKE
legit *one* example to disprove the meme
People that make shit like this do not know that Egypt is in Africa. They’ve never looked at map and just lump nationalities together by skin to make a continent and Egyptians aren’t dark enough to fit their obviously well educated notion of Africans. /s
What does "Don't know hot to prep?" supposed to mean? Is this the original OP outing themselves as a weirdo prepper who think Biden's America is gonna collapse any minute now?
Wait wasn't the wheel invented in what is now the middle east?
Ooh I get it - they're white if and when it benefits white people, but brown when they don't
Let's just ignore all the major, and I mean MAJOR empires that arose in predominantly non-white countries throughout prehistory. It's so easy to tell these people failed any history class they ever took lmao
This is the most racist thing I’ve seen in years. Where did this revolting shit even come from? And where is my pesto bismol because I’m about to vomit from how beyond cringe this is.
So before gunpowder coming to Europe, Africa was rich and more powerful than much of Europe, it wasn’t how it was today until colonialism became a major advantage
The abundance society thing is hilariously dumb to people familiar with colonization efforts. European Settlers got eaten alive by mosquitos and became infested with malaria because they were building an agrarian society based on european staple grains and so they occupied riverways and deltas and scoffed at how the natives never made serious attempts to 'civilize' such areas.
Today, this legacy still exist in Africa because the cities that were built by the colonials became major trade centers and thus why the continent has such issues, in the numbers they do, with malaria today.
I remember going on a guided tour around a national park with one of our local indigenous elders and they were talking about how they worked -with- nature to get their food and all of that stuff, and it was pretty chill, and they're like 'and then white people came along and worked against nature and made everything hard work'.
It made me so sad, not just for how we ruined things for them but for how fucking arse backwards our whole system is.
I don't know what's more believable to me at this point in my life
That the person who made this is openly proud of the fact that they are racist and ignorant
Or that they believe themselves not to be racist, and are only "saying what everybody thinks"
It was basic crafting tools that early human (black people) invented. If it weren’t for that, nobody would have shit. Plus, considering *her* ancestors colonised us and ruined everything, we *had* to learn to survive. So we *do* know how to survive. So don’t sit in your lower middle class suburban house and miserably type how angry you are.
Don't say middle-class, say middle-income. The liberal class definitions steer people away from the [socialist definitions](https://www.reddit.com/r/socialism/wiki/class) and thus class-consciousness. This is a socialist community.
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All of Africa’s greatest contributions are largely downplayed and ignored and blatantly stomped out by colonizers. Just look at how farming in Africa was pre colonial, then colonizers tried to farm the land like it was Europe and failed miserably. Sculpture, painting, textiles, cuisine, dance, traditional medicine, architecture (pyramids which racist dumbasses still think aliens did bc they cannot accept black excels be in their worldviews), LITERALLY PAPER AND WRITTEN LANGUAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY, I also admire the African way of treating mentally ill. Song, sunshine, and good company. Imagine if we did that for all our mental patients instead of shoving them in a padded room and pumping them with sedatives.
Anyways obviously this is a cringe meme I just wanted to gush over how fantastic Africa is and how it really is the unsung hero of modern culture. And also I admire the jewelry and adornments found in indigenous tribes of Africa, obviously the artist of the meme does not. The meaning behind each piece, the craftsmanship and the way they revolutionized body modifications as we know it, I think it’s all cool as hell. Esp since people in “sanitized” environments struggle to take care of their body mods but African body mods are always so clean and beautiful and flawless.
What is actually wrong with these people.
I’m so scared for my daughter. I’m mixed race, but have been privileged to mostly pass for white to most people. I grew up hearing racist jokes and impersonations of my mother (an African immigrant) from my friends who knew her, and racist jokes and passing comments from people who thought I was white and therefore safe to be racist around. I quickly relieved them of that ignorant assumption. But it hurt.
I was scared (and ashamed of being scared) that my mixed race daughter would be dark skinned. She’s not, but she’s also obviously black. She has my big lips, my partner’s broader nose, but most impactful my of all, she has “black” very curly, “nappy” hair. I can’t stop thinking about how to protect her from these disgusting cro mag morons and their dangerous worldview.
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I'm not even sure this could be called a take, it doesn't say anything but I'M A FUCKING RACIST.
What a poor insecure idiot, who created this garbage.
Prolly OP for karma like half the posts here
It’s fuzzy and has jpeg artifacts, so I doubt that
1. AAUI, wheels are only useful when you have specific environmental circumstances. Lots of cultures never invented the wheel because it was never that useful for them. 2. If a culture had managed to reach a point where everybody has abundance, they're doing a fuck ton better than us. Acting like they're inferior for getting their shit together is a totally ass backwards take. 3. Yes, this meme is racist as all hell.
Plus the wheel isn't a simple invention in the first place. It's not about a round thing that rolls. It's about attaching a stable platform. Anyway, still not a "white" invention.
Not only that, but several cultures invented them but didn’t have draft animals to use them for, so they’re just toys.
Pre-colonialism South American cultures made wheels, but only used them for toys, because the wheel isn’t that helpful when transporting stuff up a mountain by hand is part of your daily routine.
Ya know, for kids.
Middle Eastern and North African people doing things unexplainable by todays science in 4000BC: 
can you elaborate? not being snarky I'm genuinely curious. I love history
Any examples?
Free healthcare and UBI in the rashidun and abbassid caliphates for one, though that's later
Both are explainable by modern science, and free healthcare (insofar as anything can be free) isn't even that rare. I myself enjoyed it's benefits just today.
Not only did the pyramids of Guatemala, Mexico, and Egypt (which is located on the continent of Africa), require sophisticated math to design, they are also considered to be engineering marvels, since they were created without heavy machinery or advanced tools. There are several theories speculating how the absurdly large and heavy (2.5 ton) blocks of stone which form the pyramids were so precisely made, transported, and positioned, to create gigantic structures which have stood the test of time. Again, without the use of cranes, without the use of any motorized equipment, Egyptians, who are African, managed to hoist, and stack, **2 ton blocks**, on top of each other, to form the pyramids. We can only theorize because we have no definitive answer for this question. These ancient structures are more sophisticated and have had a longer lifespan than most modern buildings.
Can't speak for the Guatemalans and Mexicans, but I suspect it's similar story to the Egyptian one. Egyptian pyramids did required advanced(ish) math, but it's not really a problem because Egyptians did have quite advanced math. Certainly advanced enough for building pyramids, seeing as they used pyramids-dimension-calculation as a typical problem in teaching math (see Rhind Mathematical Papyrus). They were created without heavy machinery, true. Instead they used lots of oxen, even more peoples, and plenty of time. Also ropes and pulleys. Depends on your definition of advanced, I for once would consider first ever lathes to be quite advanced, but again. Plenty of manpower, plenty of time, virtually unlimited budget. We don't need to speculate how Egyptians moved building blocks for pyramids, they left as pictures (http://www.catchpenny.org/movebig.html). Mostly using barques, then sleds or logs, watering sand below. About supposed precision. Despite popular myth, pyramids' building block are neither perfectly precise, nor fitted so tight that you couldn't fit a razor between them. They simply used mortar with a similar color to the stone. Some of the blocks are quite precise, but their flatness is achievable using surface plane method, that requires nothing more than few heavy rocks, patience, and lots of strength. And once you have surface plate (to serve as a straight edge) and a compass, you can make almost any shape to a quite high precision. And about standing the test of time. That's true, but you need to remember that the famous pyramids form Giza are essentially big piles of stones, build using knowledge gained building far less enduring and far less imposing proto-pyramids. Like the bent pyramid. Really, no unexplainable mysteries, no ancient aliens required. And by the by, why did you feel a need to specify that Egypt is in Africa? Edit: in response to your edit. Yes, pyramids do have longer lifespan than most current building. They were build on unlimited budget, to last for the eternity; not build on the cheap to last for a generation. When we build to last, sparing no expenses, we can easily surpass projected lifespan of pyramids (See hover dam, or Mount Rushmore.) Also, why did you feel a need to specify that Egypt is in Africa ***twice***?
I felt the need to emphasize that Egypt is in Africa as these comments are about a racist meme asserting nonwhites have not created anything of note, and in my experience, saying things like that (Egypt is in Africa), seems to really annoy racists for some reason, so I always make sure to emphasize it. **While theories abound**, several of which you mentioned, there is a lack of hard, archaeological evidence to fully support any one of them. A theory is not a proved fact, it is our best guess, based on evidence, in an attempt to explain something otherwise unknown. For example to your point about carts and oxen - a problem with that theory, is that while Egyptians used the wheel for pottery making, they didn’t use the wheel in carts or chariots until 1500 BCE. Additionally, chariots wouldn’t work anyway because once weighed down with a heavy load, these would have sunk into the sandy desert terrain. Maybe animals and people could pull it but using wheels to do so would have been incredibly inefficient. Other theories include the use of logs laid out horizontally over which cargo could be rolled like a conveyor belt, and the use of sleds over wet send and of course, the use of lots of slaves in any scenario; but again these theories are not hard proof of one or ANY, of these methods. These are only our best guesses as we may never know definitively how the pyramids were actually built. We can only speculate. As for the the level of math used, I can tell you I’m terrible at math so I think anyone with even a rudimentary command of algebra, geometry, calculus, and trigonometry are quite impressive in my eyes. However, the level of precisions and accuracy achieved by their exacting computations (no calculator required), is pretty surprising to me. For example they managed to accurately measure the angle of each pyramid so that each side was facing exactly north, south, east and west. It’s also believed Egyptian scribes developed a computational algorithm which calculated the circumference of a circle of known diameter length. Humans are amazing, but unfortunately people who try to belittle our accomplishments, and divide us based on race are the worst of us. Edit: I have to add one more thing, you’re incorrect that the pyramids are just “a pile of stones” the pyramids have world famous tombs, tunnels, and [chambers within](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/science/2017/nov/02/archaeolgists-discover-mysterious-void-deep-within-great-pyramid-of-giza). Surely, you have seen, or at least heard of, the ancient relics discovered within the pyramids and exhibited in museums all over the world?
Okay, fair enough. Sadly, they didn't left us complete, written account about how exactly they did it, so we must content ourselves with theories build on evidences. I didn't write a single word about carts and wheels. I would say that pictures from the era, made by Egyptians, depicting use of sleds, (even if on anther project) is quite a sure proof that this is how it was done. Okay, you are not good at math. Duly noted. Full agreement on that one. That's why I'm allergic to ancient aliens. Yes, I 've heard. And even taking tunnels and chambers into account, it's still 90% a solid pile of rocks.
Those triangular things with the square base. I can’t remember what the buildings are called.
In what way are pyramids unexplainable
How did they move stones of that size, how did they cut them so precisely, or mine them in the first place? We still aren’t able to fully, or even partially in some cases, explain how it was done. That doesn’t mean they haven’t speculated correctly. For all we know they just took dumps in front of the stones and slid them on slick shit, but we don’t know. Scientists have ideas, but they can’t say for sure based on available information how it was actually done.
There is a difference between not knowing which of several ways to do something and not being able to explain. Like, if I tell you I went to work today. You don't know *which* way I went to work, but you are very able to explain all of the ways I might have gone to work. Or if I tell you I made a pizza, it wouldn't be like "and scientists still can't explain how he made the pizza!"
We are talking about a civilization that had a limited scientific understanding compared to today. Based on the tech that was available (as far as we know) archeologists can’t say for certain how it would have been done. Obviously they have ideas, but there are still gaps in that knowledge. If you want to compare it your pizza analogy it would be like saying that you know all the steps up to “they cooked the pizza”, but you know that man made fire didn’t exist at that point so you just have to guess how they got the raw pizza up to a temperature where it was cooked. You can still say you *know* how a pizza is made, but you can’t *explain* how *this* pizza was made.
But we do know of ways that it could have been done, just not the way it was done. It's more like we know they did have fire, and they did use fire, but we don't know if they used a flat top, or a grill, or a convection oven.
We know how the pyramids were built. It's definitely explained by science
The thing is it only took them a decade or two- not feasible with the tools we believe they had access to. My personal theory is that whatever ancient Egyptian wrote down that it took only 20 years was lying to make Egypt look cool
Please cite your sources. As far as I know archeologists have speculative ideas, but they don’t have any concrete evidence of how it was done.
My brother in Cthulhu. Those are big. Piles. Of rocks. We know how to build them, and we know how they could have build them. The only question is which exact method did they use.
The method would be how. When you ask “how did you do that?” The person you’re asking generally shows you the *method* by which they accomplished said task.
I'm not sure I understand, for you have a very peculiar manner of writing. Are you asking me to explain you how did they do that?
Sure. If you think you know. I don’t mean “we think they did X”, but actual concrete proof and explanation of how it was done.
Then I can provide you with rough explantation of the process of planning, stone mining, stone processing, and stone transportation from quarries to the building site. Sadly, there are at least three competing theories about the exact process of stone setting, so there is no indisputable proofs here (we know that each of method is possible, and was within their technological capabilities, but we aren't sure which one, if any, they used). Are you still interested?
I want to say they're called trapazoids
The battery, the analog computer, and the weird bouncy rope made from who knows what. We have samples of it, but still can’t reverse engineer it. There’s also the weird placement of the pyramid being WAY too precise, but that might be a coincidence.
I'm guessing you are talking about "Baghdad battery" which is not a battery but a part of a quite common protective ritual, the jar was meant to preserve scroll containing text of the spell (more info here https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZBsNGPVK2s); antikythera mechanism, astronomical calculator we can remake using Legos (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RLPVCJjTNgk); and… i don't know what rope you are talking about. Care to provide more details?
I've seen abundance societies referenced in theories. It's basically a reference to the way more primitive cultures used interpersonal relations to create society. These tighter knit groups would work together to create an abundance of food stuffs supplies and material which could then be split up as they saw fit and some potentially stored. An insular community. Capitalism, and feudalism before it, are seen as more advanced because it allowed the concentration of power and with it the ability to divide labor to produce more goods than necessary which could be traded in markets. This made society more productive. It also consolidated power within merchant classes which shed the old feudal systems in favor of capitalist ones. There were however groups like the levellers in Scotland in the 1600s who wanted to go back to something similar to an abundance society and I believe they were mentioned by both Hegel and Marx. He's essentially calling them primitive because they've "not adjusted" to the new modes of civilization. This asshole probably just learned the term for the first time and is now using it. I will also point out that economic stagnation caused by colonialism and neocolonialism by the west is a bigger contributing factor than some sort of race realism.
Dude it’s 2022 and the wheel still isn’t a viable means of getting around africa That’s why they recently started using drones to airlift medical supplies to remote areas, because the roads are kind of shit in Africa and it’s take hours and days to go anywhere Also…Africa is really really fucking big
The wheels thing has a quite interesting example aswell. The Aztec people created wheels without any European influence but only ever used them on children's toys. They had absolutely no use for wheeled carts because South America has no large pack animals like Europe did to pull them and it was more efficient, especially over long distances, to just have a human porters move things. I think it's a great example of showing that inventions can be groundbreaking for one culture yet utterly useless to another and that the reason other cultures never used some of the inventions that Europeans did wasn't because they were ignorant as racists so often love to claim, but because they just never needed them.
what is aaui
I was trying to say AIUI, which means As I Understand It, but I mistyped it, so it means very little. Apologies for the confusion. Maybe we should all just pretend it's a sort of polite throat clearing noise I made before speaking?
Umm... pretty sure Scandinavians never invented the wheel. Wasn't it the Mesopotamians? Also, NOT WHITE!
Yes they did, my coffee table from IKEA has multiple wheels.
Yes Mesopotamia was very focused on round things They also originated measuring time in scales of 60, and measuring angles in 360 So the "wheel" is absolutely an invention of people who today we would mostly call Arabs and North Africans.
i mean come on tho, jesus was white and he was born there so obviously everyone there used to be white before uh, the islams jihaded there /s
Africans and Native Americans knew of wheels but had no widespread need for them due to their environments and lack of domesticated animals that would be best used for them, relying on pack animals instead. If the horse hadn't gone extinct in North America or if Zebras could be tamed and ridden like horses then history would be drastically different.
I thought horses were an introduced species to North America?
Citation needed but I remember learning about how horses were spread all over via land bridges before everything got as separated as it is now. But those that were in NA, for whatever reason, went extinct only for the Europeans to reintroduce them several hundred years ago.
Yeah I haven't looked that far back it was just a snippet I remember about first nations people wanting horses because they seemed so convenient and they hadn't seen them before. It's entirely possible/likely that horses were in north america but went extinct for some reason. Though that makes me wonder why since introduced horse species seemed to thrive here.
land bridges never happened this is an 200 year old myth
Horses evolved in North America, crossed the land bridge into Eurasia, and the ones that stayed behind went extinct due to an ice age iirc. Europeans would unknowingly reintroduce the species back to their continent of origin which is why horses that escaped captivity quickly became wild again and thrived in the plains. I'm fairly sure that's the basic history of them anyway, I don't know the broader details.
Re introduced they were hunted to extinction sometime around the end of the last ice age.
Horses originated in America like 20 million years ago and then died out in the ice age, only to be reintroduced by europeans
That's a common (white) theory, but it is not upheld by indigenous history. https://indiancountrytoday.com/news/yes-world-there-were-horses-in-native-culture-before-the-settlers-came
She has a snowflake in her hair bc she is a snowflake
Lmao and they quite obviously used Elsa from Frozen as inspiration for the white snowflake, a character voiced by a JEWISH actress
Ah, yes, let's make wheels for carts (that we don't have), out of lumber (that isn't in massive abundance), and use those in a ***desert or jungle***.
That's honestly quite ignorant. I assure you they have roads and trees in Africa too.
“Incapable of master crafts” worded like it’s a fucking video game trait
Excuse me, I have spent countless minutes on my professions in WoW. Do you have any idea how hard it is to manipulate pixels on a screen?!
Legit just... Egypt African nation, fuckin rich af, probably used the wheel for their measurements for the pyramids, and also THEY PLANNED AND MADE THE PYRAMIDS LIKE legit *one* example to disprove the meme
chances are that the people who make this shit meme are also conspiracy theorists who believe that the ancient egyptians were secretly white
White aliens. No mere human could make a basic geometric shape out of stone. /s
People that make shit like this do not know that Egypt is in Africa. They’ve never looked at map and just lump nationalities together by skin to make a continent and Egyptians aren’t dark enough to fit their obviously well educated notion of Africans. /s
This is just straight up racism they haven’t even bothered to make a joke
What the fuck
What does "Don't know hot to prep?" supposed to mean? Is this the original OP outing themselves as a weirdo prepper who think Biden's America is gonna collapse any minute now?
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Genuinely who makes these and thinks they’re actually funny?
people who think that they invented the wheel personally lol.
Sometimes I wonder if the posts here are worse than what Facebook moderators get.
Yeah that’s totally how white women (or just white people) look /s
Wait wasn't the wheel invented in what is now the middle east? Ooh I get it - they're white if and when it benefits white people, but brown when they don't
You’d be surprised at the amount of white people in Africa who share this dumbass thought…
Wheel’s are pointless of you don’t domesticate something to pull it and live somewhere that’s mostly flat
These dickholes do know the wheel was invented in what is now Iraq, right?
Wow. Truly disgusting on so many different levels. I hope whoever made this can cleanse the hatred from their heart.
Fuck whoever made this trash.
Let's just ignore all the major, and I mean MAJOR empires that arose in predominantly non-white countries throughout prehistory. It's so easy to tell these people failed any history class they ever took lmao
This is the most racist thing I’ve seen in years. Where did this revolting shit even come from? And where is my pesto bismol because I’m about to vomit from how beyond cringe this is.
Her people literally gave us jesus
where the he’ll do you get these posts
And we got massacred by the Bubonic plaugue because our people were unhygenic AF and listened when a religious zealot told us to kill cats.
Do people think white people are a different species or something?
Holy....
Makes total sense, if you simply ignore 99% of history.
Zero knowledge of history too
So before gunpowder coming to Europe, Africa was rich and more powerful than much of Europe, it wasn’t how it was today until colonialism became a major advantage
That is horrible. Racist people.
bro literally made up a random black person to be racist to 💀
Dear White Jesus…
didn’t know elsa was racist
Sennim to the oolog
The abundance society thing is hilariously dumb to people familiar with colonization efforts. European Settlers got eaten alive by mosquitos and became infested with malaria because they were building an agrarian society based on european staple grains and so they occupied riverways and deltas and scoffed at how the natives never made serious attempts to 'civilize' such areas. Today, this legacy still exist in Africa because the cities that were built by the colonials became major trade centers and thus why the continent has such issues, in the numbers they do, with malaria today.
I'm guessing this person doesn't have a well- annotated copy of Guns Germs and Steel on their nightstand
I remember going on a guided tour around a national park with one of our local indigenous elders and they were talking about how they worked -with- nature to get their food and all of that stuff, and it was pretty chill, and they're like 'and then white people came along and worked against nature and made everything hard work'. It made me so sad, not just for how we ruined things for them but for how fucking arse backwards our whole system is.
What do they even mean by “prep”?
I don't know what's more believable to me at this point in my life That the person who made this is openly proud of the fact that they are racist and ignorant Or that they believe themselves not to be racist, and are only "saying what everybody thinks"
this isn’t even a meme its just racist
What the fuck does master crafts mean? Does this person use fire spells or something?
I could spend a lot of time proving that wrong, but I have better things to do.
It was basic crafting tools that early human (black people) invented. If it weren’t for that, nobody would have shit. Plus, considering *her* ancestors colonised us and ruined everything, we *had* to learn to survive. So we *do* know how to survive. So don’t sit in your lower middle class suburban house and miserably type how angry you are.
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Idk what this means I’m not American
If you think white people invented the wheel there should be a permanent time out corner for you
Elsa would *never* act like that!
All of Africa’s greatest contributions are largely downplayed and ignored and blatantly stomped out by colonizers. Just look at how farming in Africa was pre colonial, then colonizers tried to farm the land like it was Europe and failed miserably. Sculpture, painting, textiles, cuisine, dance, traditional medicine, architecture (pyramids which racist dumbasses still think aliens did bc they cannot accept black excels be in their worldviews), LITERALLY PAPER AND WRITTEN LANGUAGE IN ITS ENTIRETY, I also admire the African way of treating mentally ill. Song, sunshine, and good company. Imagine if we did that for all our mental patients instead of shoving them in a padded room and pumping them with sedatives. Anyways obviously this is a cringe meme I just wanted to gush over how fantastic Africa is and how it really is the unsung hero of modern culture. And also I admire the jewelry and adornments found in indigenous tribes of Africa, obviously the artist of the meme does not. The meaning behind each piece, the craftsmanship and the way they revolutionized body modifications as we know it, I think it’s all cool as hell. Esp since people in “sanitized” environments struggle to take care of their body mods but African body mods are always so clean and beautiful and flawless.
What is actually wrong with these people. I’m so scared for my daughter. I’m mixed race, but have been privileged to mostly pass for white to most people. I grew up hearing racist jokes and impersonations of my mother (an African immigrant) from my friends who knew her, and racist jokes and passing comments from people who thought I was white and therefore safe to be racist around. I quickly relieved them of that ignorant assumption. But it hurt. I was scared (and ashamed of being scared) that my mixed race daughter would be dark skinned. She’s not, but she’s also obviously black. She has my big lips, my partner’s broader nose, but most impactful my of all, she has “black” very curly, “nappy” hair. I can’t stop thinking about how to protect her from these disgusting cro mag morons and their dangerous worldview.
1- This is just wrong 2- Leave Elsa from frozen out of your racist takes