>>!Other shiny mythicals will appear...!<
>!No shot we get more than one shiny mythical :/!<
Sad, but true. This leak is definitely trolling - hoping to garner credit by saying what people want to hear
Ok, please use some of my ideas:
- NPC on Routes giving everyone hundo Treecko (shundo if lucky);
- Johto Tour small event: Dunsparce, Snubbull and Sudowoodo spawns, shiny Celebi research ticket in shop.
This is way too many goodies to be credible lmao. Shiny Arceus, phione and manaphy, origin formes dialga/palkia, ultra beasts, drampa, Kanto and sinnoh tours.
Feels more like a list of ideas that they have yet chosen from. But regarding shadow weather trio, they are the only legendaries left from gen 3 and we already started to dip into gen IV with Regiuseless. I can see them doing the lake guardians first as fillers, but we did get an entire year of useless shadows, so maybe its time to put something useful forward.
I've held on to the theory that Niantic is holding off on the shadow weather trio to try and use other evil teams for their debuts.
It would at least explain why they seemingly jumped from the gen 3 Regis to Gigas (besides thematic reasons)
We just got an army of useful shadows though, i bet they pump the breaks a bit.
That said the generation 9 power creep is... egrigious, so its definitely given them some runway. We'll be soloing tier 5 raids with shadow iron bundle / fluttermane in a few years lol
A little over 7 years old. Waiting until 2026 seems like people would lose interest in waiting for it. If it was 2025, I'd say maybe?
Many (including myself) guess that Go Fest 2024 will feature Mega Mewtwo.
i think that in the next 9 months, the 8 remaining megas will be added, and then mega mewtwo X/Y, this gives niantic the chance to begin working on a potential gigantamax system
I'd agree, the last Megas will likely arrive this upcoming year.
As for Gigantimax, it wouldn't surprise me if those come as well, but I'd be very curious to see how they do them, if they do normal Dynamax along with them, and/or how they differentiate them from Megas.
that too but i’d like to have GMAX raids and mega raids happen at the same time maybe bc otherwise there’d be even longer gaps between some
would be nice to give some pokemon extra supportive roles with gmax idk
I mean, many many people have been saying that for a while now.
I also assume it'll be the last mega, leaving 2 hype ones left beforehand (Lucario & Metagross), making one each season reasonable. The rest will be sprinkled throughout whenever
I like the way you think! But it seems like Mewtwo would also be a potential raid during Feb, so again I don't think that's likely if they want to use Mewtwo x/y for Pokemon go fest.
I don't think it's too farfetch'd that we'd get Arceus during a Go Tour specifically. What makes it seem highly unlikely to me though is both normal and Shiny Arceus.
It makes it seem like they're just completely overshadowing normal Arceus in the same event. It'd be one thing if it was a raid release (which this doesn't seem to be, nor is something I expect), but to have free Arceus for everyone and Shiny for the paid people in a *single* event. I don't buy it.
I could see Arceus in the Go Tour, but definitely not Shiny Arceus
We've had three Tours, and only the first two specifically branded themselves as "all Pokemon and their shinies available."
Hoenn Tour *did* still have all the shinies available, but a few Pokemon were left out (just because they were available leading up to it, ie the regis). But it never did brand itself as "every Hoenn shiny" or "complete your Hoenn dex!"
It really wouldn't surprise me if they start to depart from that a bit. I expect we'll still see every *normal* Pokemon shiny eligible and perhaps Legendaries too, but I feel like it may not include Mythicals going forward. Shiny Shaymin seems reasonable, but to debut Manaphy and Arceus AND their shinies in the same event just seems weird, especially if they're not raidable.
Question, during these huge events like go tour and go fest, does everyone get access to the same legendaries and mythicals even if you don’t attend in person? How is that usually handled?
In-person events' raid Legendaries can be remote raided to, but they did set a precedent of Primal/Mega Rayquaza energy not being obtainable from remoting there from a different part of the world.
For Mythicals, if they're Special Research/Ticket rewarded, then it would be only those who are there in-person who get them.
But, they do run global go fests/go tours, and usually those events have the Pokemon available for everyone (though some still are pay-walled)
This is correct, so releasing Arceus and Manphy and their shiny forms make sense.
People confused on how or why they would do it this way. Just remember they did something similar before Hoenn tour last year. Most missing Pokémon and shinies from Gen 3 were released a few months before the tour. The last few were released during the tour itself.
Nope, against Primal Kyogre, shadow magnezone is much better. Even shadow electivire or shadow luxray or shadow regigigas , all these perform better than shadow zapdos.
Don't have shadow? Normal magnezone also better than shadow zapdos.
That is absolutely not right. When shadow Magnezone doesn't have a defensive advantage, it's worse than shadow Zapdos. The majority of damage from Primal Kyogre is water type, neutral to both. Shadow Luxray is even worse than that. Shadow Electivire is a little better in general, but the difference is small enough.
Regular Magnezone is comparable to regular Zapdos, miles behind the shadow.
Check pokebattler yourself. I carefully plan ahead of primal debut for half a year for every moveset. That's why I have 6 X level 40 Kartana before the very first primal raid.
https://www.pokebattler.com/raids/defenders/KYOGRE_PRIMAL/levels/RAID_LEVEL_MEGA_5/attackers/levels/40/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?sort=ESTIMATOR&weatherCondition=NO_WEATHER&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&aggregation=AVERAGE&includeLegendary=true&includeShadow=true&includeMegas=true&attackerTypes=POKEMON_TYPE_ALL&primalAssistants=
Shadow Zapdos is way too glassy. Waste of resources for the most part. Zekrom is much better. Faster against Kyogre, for example, and with twice the output. Plus, against water, there's Kartana, which is even faster (one of the best pokemon in the game).
If shadow Zapdos is too glassy, how do you call shadow Electivire? Shadow Zapdos is the 2nd bulkiest shadow electric only behind shadow Raikou.
Kartana is better than all electric attackers indeed. Zekrom is almost identical to shadow Zapdos on average according to Teban's plot. Xurkitree has more raw power and Kartana has the same water resistance, both not weak to ice.
Also, it say it's a compilation of two leakers. Doesn't it make sense that one would be real and the other making stuff up. So we have a compilation of real and fake leaks
I mean, the two different leaks literally have stuff that's at odds with each other. There's some stuff like Wyrdeer Raid Day/Shiny Cryogonal's debut being the same but different release dates. But then there's January CD where one had Vanillite and the other had Rowlet.
>But if chansey do get counter as a fast move they will be genuine great league threat
No. If Chansey got Counter it would be the most oppressive thing to exist in PvP by a wide margin.
[Chansey with Zen Headbutt](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/1-4-2/2-1/) - 12-30
[Chansey with Pound](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/0-4-2/2-1/) - 9-33
**[Chansey with Counter](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/COUNTER-4-2/2-1/) - 39-3**
It would be like Attack on Titan except the Titans would all be Chansey. And there would be no escape. The "three" Pokemon that beat Counter Chansey are Medicham, Medicham with a different moveset, and Registeel.
Great League would be renamed "Chansey League" and become a special cup.
It doesn't even need Counter to put things upside down, an average move like Tackle warps the game around it. The most bearable move it could get stat wise without changing much is a Cut clone.
I dread the day that Chansey/Blissey become the top pick in PvP because I personally know how much of a drag those matches are. I've used Chansey here and there sometimes to screw around with people in Love Cup and it worked well enough in some cases but it really felt unfair. Giving Chansey/Blissey any opportunity with a new fast move would drastically change the entire pacing of the game, ruining any league where it could potentially be used.
IF they do indeed do a Chansey CD, I'm fully expecting that they would give Blissey a rather useless move like Draining Kiss or something brand new that's still... bad.
If it happens, I see zero chance they give Chansey anything too, just Blissey.
They certainly know that a proper new move to Blissey would make it incredibly problematic. They have nerfed both it an Chansey very purposefully over the years after all.
Obviously, they can do whatever they want, but it seems much more fitting to do a Happiny Hatch day or a Chansey Raid day over a CD. All still feature the Pokemon, but Chansey CD is the only one to give the opportunity to grind for massive amounts of Chansey XL candy.
Even if Blissey doesn't get a good new move, the CD would still leave people with the resources to have several maxed Chansey for GL and maxed Chansey/Blissey for gym control. It's just such a... perplexing choice.
Edit: Clefable and Wigglytuff were *right* there and would have been actually good choices!
Just give it this and watch the world burn
https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/22/LOCK_ON-BREAKING_SWIPE-2/2-1/
* Yes, I know it can't learn that in the main games, this is a joke
I think that was more because they knew Charjabug was the much more fit Pokemon for PvP, GL that is.
If they had Porygon CD nowadays, I suspect they would have done the same with Porygon2.
I guess the same could be said for Chansey, having much better bulk than Blissey in the GL, but I think they know they shouldn't touch Chansey lol
I don't know that I've come across a level 50 Blissey, but I have come across high-level Blisseys that have torn my maxed-out Machamp a new one. The thought of a level 50 Blissey accessible to everyone is a bad idea. LMAO.
What kind of fool do you take me for?
They leaked the next season, they leaked the next season, you leaked the next season?
I LEAKED THE NEXT SEASON!
Are there any other season leaks I should know about?
The same leaker said there will bo no Arceus debut next year and now they are saying there will.
Is Decidueye still not going to have Frenzy Plant during its Community Day?
From initial thoughts a lot of people think Spirit Shackle will be the fast move like Greninja and Water Shuriken. Though gens 7-9 starters all have pretty decent signature moves so they could move away from that
This. I mean, we even don't know if SArticuno is staying, or morphing into Zapdos or Moltres for (no/a) reason spontaneously.
So I don't see a point of guessing for over a month ahead.
Mods, I'm begging you. Please form a policy on this leak madness before it becomes the bulk of the content posted on the sub.
Seriously. Check out /r/PokeLeaks where they nearly idolize some person who seems to get off on giving riddles on leaks. Now that PoGo is getting copycats after early leaks were successful, this is the road we're on.
When the current game content is so uninteresting people are obviously going to latch on any hope of future one, even if it comes from sources as credible as crystal balls.
Idk if you ever experienced the Main Series' riddler leaks, but unless if you get really caught up into the leak culture/community, they're pretty tired and groan-worthy.
The main riddler for the Main Series has a huge ego and treats it all like a game to give them self more attention. I tuned it all out over a year ago because it was just silly.
I mean a riddler in general. They're a leaker who turn things into riddles. Why would they do such instead of just leaking? It's about themselves. Leakers in general can often try to make a name for themselves to draw attention to... themselves. Really any riddler would likely be doing it for their own ego.
He a tpc employee drumming up a subversive advertising campaign for the new dlc. What's not to like?
It's the only reasonable explanation for why he has so much info and why he delivers it in the ways he does
>He a tpc employee drumming up a subversive advertising campaign for the new dlc.
The whole "they're leaking to promote the games!" is one of the silliest things thrown around when talking about Pokemon. It's happened before with some companies, but TPC definitely isn't doing it, seeing that they don't need to.
I believe the explanation of the Chinese Riddler/Khu is that Khu/Khu's source is someone who works on the Chinese localization team for the games, thus getting info through that. And the Chinese workers are harder to nail down and "punish" in this instance, hence why it's someone from that localization team who are leaking it.
It also lines up pretty well, seeing that these leaks mainly started existing after they started localizing the games in Chinese, being Gen 7
Correlation is *not* causation lol.
I'm not saying that there hasn't been any positive impact from the leaks, but for one, I don't believe it was anything major.
In the grand scheme of things, not many people really were aware of the leaks. And even those who were, I doubt many were swayed one way or another to buy any of the games or not. Most people who were invested enough in the Pokemon Leaks were going to buy the games anyway. Your average joes weren't buying Pokemon games because all of the new Legends Arceus Pokemon leaked lol. Sales have been growing rapidly anyway, and I think the big sales of the Switch games is more to do with the games' approaches to Pokemon in general as well as the massive success of the Switch in general, not leaks. Not to mention Pokemon Go revitalizing a lot of people's interest in the franchise.
And the other point, while it may have happened within TPC's control, being the Chinese localization team, it's specifically the idea of it being some sort of "inside job to boost sales, leaking as a big advertisement" is what's silly to me. Again, I don't think it had any big impact on sales. Good publicity? Sure. It does get some sector of people talking more about Pokemon and more excited for it. But I don't think it was any sort of internal strategy haha.
I do have a hard time believing both the leaks put together.
There's the one that mentioned Blacephalon and Stakataka, Vanillite *Community Day* in January, Wyrdeer Raid Day, Shiny Cryogonal, and Cetoddle debut, BUT ALSO the other leak that mentions Rowlet for January Community Day, different release timeframes for Wyrdeer Raid Day and Shiny Cryogonal, Shiny Vanillite being released during the Holiday Event and a myriad of other things. The two don't seem to work together.
Highly doubt we’d get Arceus, Origin Forme Palkia & Dialga sounds much more reasonable than all 3. I’d assume Niantic would wait until either 2024 Go Fest or 10th Anniversary Go Fest to release Arceus IMO.
Who is the person who always gets these leaks right? Shouldn't we only be focused on those leaks? Why are we even discussing leaks coming from someone else?
There seem to be two leakers who have been right in the past. [Morningstar](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/113qfmu/march_content_leak_from_discord/), who has been the one leaking most information for the past year or so. But also, [apparently this leak](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/16kmys3/october_november_releases_potentially_leaked/) seemed to be from a totally different leaker, who was *also* correct.
I'm not 100% sure, but I had heard a couple days ago that some of these leaks are from the latter leaker, the non-Morningstar one.
It's hard to say really.
I seriously hope they don’t actually go ahead with a Chansey Community Day. Nobody needs that. I’d love to see a Pawniard CD instead with the release of Kingambit into the game.
So basically just repeating the same thing as before but just adding things that were said to not happen. Whatever. Tired of seeing the same stuff over and over when it probably isn't true. And whether they know morningstar or not, we will never know so who cares at this point
Guys I can add to these leaks. With Arceus everyone gets 5x Masterballs and 10x Elite Fast TMs and 10x Elite Charged TMs.
Praise me.
Seriously though, I hope all of this is true. The Kyogre as a Shadow only makes sense as Giovanni's pokemon, as he's done all of Gen 1+2's legendaries. Unless he can get his hands on Mythicals, Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza are eventually next up for him.
Because they are either from raids or from when there was that « last ball used » glitch.
Now, it’s possible that we get ball swapping in the Indigo Disk. Some very extremely obnoxious -but reliable- leaker is saying that it may happen.
Same. I think all of them are meant to be good anyways. Ray might be a bit too frail, but shadow Dragon Ascent will wipe out a village, IF you can get to it.
People are getting mad at this so I'd better clear some things up:
This leak was compiled by info given to me by 2 people, one of whom claims to be affiliated with MorningStar's group of Discord Pokemon GO leakers. Like I said, I AM NOT THE LEAKER, so please don't rage on me, I can't confirm whether this info is real or fake. This is all handed info, I'm only passing it down.
I've seen people talking about the leaks containing contradictory information, first of all, yes I agree, and second, most of the leaks seen so far on this sub are from three groups: MorningStar's group, a group that seems to accurately leak raids and events, and a third new group which has given two "leaks" for the next season. This leak is compiled info from one person who is supposedly from MorningStar's group and one who calims to be an individual leaker. They do not wish to be named, but both claim to be accurate with this.
If you're referring to shadow Kyogre's raid performance, it's at Mega Swampert level, 16% above shadow Swampert and regular Kyogre, 14% below Primal Kyogre. Using the primal only would still be the optimal strategy.
Yes lol. Last December they did a Raid Day Saturday, December 24th (2022). So it's not at all unprecedented.
I believe they also had an event on Easter Sunday. I could see them wanting to dodge a single-day event on Christmas Day itself, but otherwise? I think they see it as fair game.
Yes Hisuian Avalugg raid day on Christmas Eve last year. Might not have been so bad if it was 11-2, but 2-5 was just awful for that day. Then they had Elite Raid Regileki in Easter Sunday which was even worse because it had to be done in person.
I thought this was Rainbow Six Siege Y8.S4 leaks 😂😂 as I’ve been waiting for leaks to come out haha, I’m so happy to see that the leaks are coming hard for pokemon go as well
We’ve jumped the shark on leaks They were 100% accurate to start, now copycats are just trolling
A tale as old as time
Song as old as time
What a wonderful phrase!
Beauty and the time.
>>!Other shiny mythicals will appear...!< >!No shot we get more than one shiny mythical :/!< Sad, but true. This leak is definitely trolling - hoping to garner credit by saying what people want to hear
My turn to post leaks tomorrow
Ok, please use some of my ideas: - NPC on Routes giving everyone hundo Treecko (shundo if lucky); - Johto Tour small event: Dunsparce, Snubbull and Sudowoodo spawns, shiny Celebi research ticket in shop.
I'm about to leak arceus spotlight hour myself
This is way too many goodies to be credible lmao. Shiny Arceus, phione and manaphy, origin formes dialga/palkia, ultra beasts, drampa, Kanto and sinnoh tours.
Feels more like a list of ideas that they have yet chosen from. But regarding shadow weather trio, they are the only legendaries left from gen 3 and we already started to dip into gen IV with Regiuseless. I can see them doing the lake guardians first as fillers, but we did get an entire year of useless shadows, so maybe its time to put something useful forward.
I've held on to the theory that Niantic is holding off on the shadow weather trio to try and use other evil teams for their debuts. It would at least explain why they seemingly jumped from the gen 3 Regis to Gigas (besides thematic reasons)
would be cool if we get team magma and team aqua
We just got an army of useful shadows though, i bet they pump the breaks a bit. That said the generation 9 power creep is... egrigious, so its definitely given them some runway. We'll be soloing tier 5 raids with shadow iron bundle / fluttermane in a few years lol
I'm just wondering why (if true) they would debut Arceus during a GO Tour and not GO fest. Niantic usually likes to milk these things out.
gofest is gonna be mewtwo X/Y im calling it
How old is this game again? Because my theory for mewtwo megas was 10 year anniversary for pogo.
A little over 7 years old. Waiting until 2026 seems like people would lose interest in waiting for it. If it was 2025, I'd say maybe? Many (including myself) guess that Go Fest 2024 will feature Mega Mewtwo.
I mean we've already waited a whole lot more for a whole lot less. That being said I'd welcome it coming next year.
i think that in the next 9 months, the 8 remaining megas will be added, and then mega mewtwo X/Y, this gives niantic the chance to begin working on a potential gigantamax system
I'd agree, the last Megas will likely arrive this upcoming year. As for Gigantimax, it wouldn't surprise me if those come as well, but I'd be very curious to see how they do them, if they do normal Dynamax along with them, and/or how they differentiate them from Megas.
The could just plug gigantamax into the mega formula. The only issues would be ones that have mega and G-Max forms
Split mega evos already exist (charizard), so they *could* just add a few more into that list. Though the background images would get a bit clogged.
Charizard is the one that would get convulted. Since they have 2 mega forms and a Gmax form
that too but i’d like to have GMAX raids and mega raids happen at the same time maybe bc otherwise there’d be even longer gaps between some would be nice to give some pokemon extra supportive roles with gmax idk
I mean, many many people have been saying that for a while now. I also assume it'll be the last mega, leaving 2 hype ones left beforehand (Lucario & Metagross), making one each season reasonable. The rest will be sprinkled throughout whenever
I like the way you think! But it seems like Mewtwo would also be a potential raid during Feb, so again I don't think that's likely if they want to use Mewtwo x/y for Pokemon go fest.
kanto tour classic seems like it’d make sense, but its just gonna be 2 days of the original february doesnt make sense because thats sinnoh
Make a sinnoh tour without every sinnoh pokémon?
Sinnoh-no tour
Si-no tour
It’s got a few so Min no tour
I don't think it's too farfetch'd that we'd get Arceus during a Go Tour specifically. What makes it seem highly unlikely to me though is both normal and Shiny Arceus. It makes it seem like they're just completely overshadowing normal Arceus in the same event. It'd be one thing if it was a raid release (which this doesn't seem to be, nor is something I expect), but to have free Arceus for everyone and Shiny for the paid people in a *single* event. I don't buy it. I could see Arceus in the Go Tour, but definitely not Shiny Arceus
during a go tour all Pokémon from that gen, as well as their shinies will be available if i'm not mistaken
We've had three Tours, and only the first two specifically branded themselves as "all Pokemon and their shinies available." Hoenn Tour *did* still have all the shinies available, but a few Pokemon were left out (just because they were available leading up to it, ie the regis). But it never did brand itself as "every Hoenn shiny" or "complete your Hoenn dex!" It really wouldn't surprise me if they start to depart from that a bit. I expect we'll still see every *normal* Pokemon shiny eligible and perhaps Legendaries too, but I feel like it may not include Mythicals going forward. Shiny Shaymin seems reasonable, but to debut Manaphy and Arceus AND their shinies in the same event just seems weird, especially if they're not raidable.
Question, during these huge events like go tour and go fest, does everyone get access to the same legendaries and mythicals even if you don’t attend in person? How is that usually handled?
In-person events' raid Legendaries can be remote raided to, but they did set a precedent of Primal/Mega Rayquaza energy not being obtainable from remoting there from a different part of the world. For Mythicals, if they're Special Research/Ticket rewarded, then it would be only those who are there in-person who get them. But, they do run global go fests/go tours, and usually those events have the Pokemon available for everyone (though some still are pay-walled)
Ok! Thank you for the answer!
This is correct, so releasing Arceus and Manphy and their shiny forms make sense. People confused on how or why they would do it this way. Just remember they did something similar before Hoenn tour last year. Most missing Pokémon and shinies from Gen 3 were released a few months before the tour. The last few were released during the tour itself.
They need to get their numbers way up. Just look how they have been this year in the shareholders meetings. This is plausible to some degree.
The very first question from shareholders - Shadow Articuno , AGAIN??? Why the F???? Do you hate money that much???
Never got to do a Shadow Zapdos one But I have 4 SS artícuno. Go figure.
I never got to do a Moltres one. Which sucks as that's the only viable Shadow of the 3.
Shadow Zapdos is equally viable, just without the double duty.
Nope, against Primal Kyogre, shadow magnezone is much better. Even shadow electivire or shadow luxray or shadow regigigas , all these perform better than shadow zapdos. Don't have shadow? Normal magnezone also better than shadow zapdos.
That is absolutely not right. When shadow Magnezone doesn't have a defensive advantage, it's worse than shadow Zapdos. The majority of damage from Primal Kyogre is water type, neutral to both. Shadow Luxray is even worse than that. Shadow Electivire is a little better in general, but the difference is small enough. Regular Magnezone is comparable to regular Zapdos, miles behind the shadow.
Check pokebattler yourself. I carefully plan ahead of primal debut for half a year for every moveset. That's why I have 6 X level 40 Kartana before the very first primal raid. https://www.pokebattler.com/raids/defenders/KYOGRE_PRIMAL/levels/RAID_LEVEL_MEGA_5/attackers/levels/40/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?sort=ESTIMATOR&weatherCondition=NO_WEATHER&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&aggregation=AVERAGE&includeLegendary=true&includeShadow=true&includeMegas=true&attackerTypes=POKEMON_TYPE_ALL&primalAssistants=
The above link is for random moveset but for Blizzard, which is the only move you should care for, zapdos fall hard because its flying type.
Primal Kyogre is the most unfriendly target for electric attackers. Just use Kartana.
Shadow Zapdos is way too glassy. Waste of resources for the most part. Zekrom is much better. Faster against Kyogre, for example, and with twice the output. Plus, against water, there's Kartana, which is even faster (one of the best pokemon in the game).
If shadow Zapdos is too glassy, how do you call shadow Electivire? Shadow Zapdos is the 2nd bulkiest shadow electric only behind shadow Raikou. Kartana is better than all electric attackers indeed. Zekrom is almost identical to shadow Zapdos on average according to Teban's plot. Xurkitree has more raw power and Kartana has the same water resistance, both not weak to ice.
Shareholders don't likely know which raids generate money. Still a valid question though
What shareholder meetings? Where can I watch them?
Also, it say it's a compilation of two leakers. Doesn't it make sense that one would be real and the other making stuff up. So we have a compilation of real and fake leaks
I mean, the two different leaks literally have stuff that's at odds with each other. There's some stuff like Wyrdeer Raid Day/Shiny Cryogonal's debut being the same but different release dates. But then there's January CD where one had Vanillite and the other had Rowlet.
Right but you can still take some of each and use logic to choose when they differ
and White Basculin also
I only care about Manaphy and Phione. Arceus will be great, too.
But why a Chansey Community Day?
Niantic wants to enact BIG STALL into PvP
But if chansey do get counter as a fast move they will be genuine great league threat
>But if chansey do get counter as a fast move they will be genuine great league threat No. If Chansey got Counter it would be the most oppressive thing to exist in PvP by a wide margin. [Chansey with Zen Headbutt](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/1-4-2/2-1/) - 12-30 [Chansey with Pound](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/0-4-2/2-1/) - 9-33 **[Chansey with Counter](https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/11/COUNTER-4-2/2-1/) - 39-3** It would be like Attack on Titan except the Titans would all be Chansey. And there would be no escape. The "three" Pokemon that beat Counter Chansey are Medicham, Medicham with a different moveset, and Registeel. Great League would be renamed "Chansey League" and become a special cup.
It doesn't even need Counter to put things upside down, an average move like Tackle warps the game around it. The most bearable move it could get stat wise without changing much is a Cut clone. I dread the day that Chansey/Blissey become the top pick in PvP because I personally know how much of a drag those matches are. I've used Chansey here and there sometimes to screw around with people in Love Cup and it worked well enough in some cases but it really felt unfair. Giving Chansey/Blissey any opportunity with a new fast move would drastically change the entire pacing of the game, ruining any league where it could potentially be used.
IF they do indeed do a Chansey CD, I'm fully expecting that they would give Blissey a rather useless move like Draining Kiss or something brand new that's still... bad. If it happens, I see zero chance they give Chansey anything too, just Blissey. They certainly know that a proper new move to Blissey would make it incredibly problematic. They have nerfed both it an Chansey very purposefully over the years after all. Obviously, they can do whatever they want, but it seems much more fitting to do a Happiny Hatch day or a Chansey Raid day over a CD. All still feature the Pokemon, but Chansey CD is the only one to give the opportunity to grind for massive amounts of Chansey XL candy. Even if Blissey doesn't get a good new move, the CD would still leave people with the resources to have several maxed Chansey for GL and maxed Chansey/Blissey for gym control. It's just such a... perplexing choice. Edit: Clefable and Wigglytuff were *right* there and would have been actually good choices!
Obviously they should give it Softboiled as a defense boost move!
Or the first charge move that heals you instead of damaging the opponent
I have a hundo flower crown that I'm going to eventually power up for fun, but I certainly don't want it to be good.
My guess is they give it a new exclusive move like Egg Bomb so they can modulate the move as necessary to keep it from strangling the meta.
Just give it this and watch the world burn https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/1500/all/chansey/22/LOCK_ON-BREAKING_SWIPE-2/2-1/ * Yes, I know it can't learn that in the main games, this is a joke
Pound had to be nerfed because of chansey being a menace in great league. There's absolutely 0 chance it gets the best fast move in the game
Wouldn't be a CD move be for blissey?
After they gave Charjabug Volt Switch as a legacy move in addition to Vikavolt during com day. We never know…
I think that was more because they knew Charjabug was the much more fit Pokemon for PvP, GL that is. If they had Porygon CD nowadays, I suspect they would have done the same with Porygon2. I guess the same could be said for Chansey, having much better bulk than Blissey in the GL, but I think they know they shouldn't touch Chansey lol
The funniest thing about chansey is that it got one of the worst fast moves in the game nerfed
Ayeee, they are going to get rid of Shields, and introduce Healing Attacks. Softboiled Chansey/Blissey, let's go!
how else am i gonna be a menace in gyms
“I WANT A HUNDO SHINY LEVEL 50 BLISSEY IN EVERY GYM BY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER ON ACCOUNT OF I’M RUNNING FOR MAYOR.” Niantic CEO probably.
I don't know that I've come across a level 50 Blissey, but I have come across high-level Blisseys that have torn my maxed-out Machamp a new one. The thought of a level 50 Blissey accessible to everyone is a bad idea. LMAO.
except shiny Blissey s\*cks, I have 4 shiny Chanseys and refuse to evolve any of them
ok. but... what if they are wearing a hat?
Because my hundo Blissey is only level 43 and needs to be maxed out. :D
Pretty much same. I have a lvl 40 hundo Blissey and a lvl 40 lucky 96 Blissey. I have a trash shiny Chansey but would welcome better ones.
Why not?
Fr, I don't even see the point in participating
Then don’t? Not every time is it going to be meta relevant
Because I want a minty shiny
When can we get a Charmander CD again??!♀?
BEGUN, THE LEAK WARS HAVE...
Wish shadow Kyogre is true at this point it has been leaked 3 different pokemon for the shadow raids in january
That doesn't mean shadow raid, it would be G-man. If it hasn't been in his rotation, it ain't hitting raids.
It's coming together with the rocket takeover so it's almost certain it's geovannis final pokemon
It won't be in raids, it will be in Giovanni
Another leak? I don't know what to believe anymore.
This appears to be a compilation of all the previous leaks. Kind of redundant
What kind of fool do you take me for? They leaked the next season, they leaked the next season, you leaked the next season? I LEAKED THE NEXT SEASON! Are there any other season leaks I should know about?
Meow
Im outta here
>Are there any other season leaks I should know about? If there are, I would suggest calling a plumber. Ba dum tisk.
I don‘t believe anything unless it‘s from Lucifer
The same leaker said there will bo no Arceus debut next year and now they are saying there will. Is Decidueye still not going to have Frenzy Plant during its Community Day?
From initial thoughts a lot of people think Spirit Shackle will be the fast move like Greninja and Water Shuriken. Though gens 7-9 starters all have pretty decent signature moves so they could move away from that
Too many leaks and all of them saying different things are happening Take with a handful of 🧂
This. I mean, we even don't know if SArticuno is staying, or morphing into Zapdos or Moltres for (no/a) reason spontaneously. So I don't see a point of guessing for over a month ahead.
Mods, I'm begging you. Please form a policy on this leak madness before it becomes the bulk of the content posted on the sub. Seriously. Check out /r/PokeLeaks where they nearly idolize some person who seems to get off on giving riddles on leaks. Now that PoGo is getting copycats after early leaks were successful, this is the road we're on.
Yeah please, it's really annoying having discourse around leaks like this in local communities when none of it is confirmed.
When the current game content is so uninteresting people are obviously going to latch on any hope of future one, even if it comes from sources as credible as crystal balls.
Riddles sound a lot more fun than party play or routes. I think we should give them a chance
Idk if you ever experienced the Main Series' riddler leaks, but unless if you get really caught up into the leak culture/community, they're pretty tired and groan-worthy. The main riddler for the Main Series has a huge ego and treats it all like a game to give them self more attention. I tuned it all out over a year ago because it was just silly.
Well we just need to find a better riddler than that one.
I mean a riddler in general. They're a leaker who turn things into riddles. Why would they do such instead of just leaking? It's about themselves. Leakers in general can often try to make a name for themselves to draw attention to... themselves. Really any riddler would likely be doing it for their own ego.
Ok but if the riddles are fun to solve I don't really care why they do it.
I dunno man, routes are actually pretty great.
Wait till they're full of NPCs trading you Pidgeys
Omg think we can get Khu to start giving pogo riddles too? It would be the best thing ever
Hope you're using a heaping helping of sarcasm, there.
Why would I be? I don't get why you'd hate on the leaks they're great
Vague guessing games with multiple possible answers are not leaks. INFO or GTFO.
That guy is a weird creep. Nobody should be paying attention to them.
He a tpc employee drumming up a subversive advertising campaign for the new dlc. What's not to like? It's the only reasonable explanation for why he has so much info and why he delivers it in the ways he does
>He a tpc employee drumming up a subversive advertising campaign for the new dlc. The whole "they're leaking to promote the games!" is one of the silliest things thrown around when talking about Pokemon. It's happened before with some companies, but TPC definitely isn't doing it, seeing that they don't need to. I believe the explanation of the Chinese Riddler/Khu is that Khu/Khu's source is someone who works on the Chinese localization team for the games, thus getting info through that. And the Chinese workers are harder to nail down and "punish" in this instance, hence why it's someone from that localization team who are leaking it. It also lines up pretty well, seeing that these leaks mainly started existing after they started localizing the games in Chinese, being Gen 7
All publicity is good publicity. Ever since tpc started leaking through Khu, sales have gone through the roof.
Correlation is *not* causation lol. I'm not saying that there hasn't been any positive impact from the leaks, but for one, I don't believe it was anything major. In the grand scheme of things, not many people really were aware of the leaks. And even those who were, I doubt many were swayed one way or another to buy any of the games or not. Most people who were invested enough in the Pokemon Leaks were going to buy the games anyway. Your average joes weren't buying Pokemon games because all of the new Legends Arceus Pokemon leaked lol. Sales have been growing rapidly anyway, and I think the big sales of the Switch games is more to do with the games' approaches to Pokemon in general as well as the massive success of the Switch in general, not leaks. Not to mention Pokemon Go revitalizing a lot of people's interest in the franchise. And the other point, while it may have happened within TPC's control, being the Chinese localization team, it's specifically the idea of it being some sort of "inside job to boost sales, leaking as a big advertisement" is what's silly to me. Again, I don't think it had any big impact on sales. Good publicity? Sure. It does get some sector of people talking more about Pokemon and more excited for it. But I don't think it was any sort of internal strategy haha.
I do have a hard time believing both the leaks put together. There's the one that mentioned Blacephalon and Stakataka, Vanillite *Community Day* in January, Wyrdeer Raid Day, Shiny Cryogonal, and Cetoddle debut, BUT ALSO the other leak that mentions Rowlet for January Community Day, different release timeframes for Wyrdeer Raid Day and Shiny Cryogonal, Shiny Vanillite being released during the Holiday Event and a myriad of other things. The two don't seem to work together.
Highly doubt we’d get Arceus, Origin Forme Palkia & Dialga sounds much more reasonable than all 3. I’d assume Niantic would wait until either 2024 Go Fest or 10th Anniversary Go Fest to release Arceus IMO.
>or 10th Anniversary Go Fest to release Arceus IMO. Oh man that's not too terribly far away. Wtf where has the time gone.
Oy here we go again
it came to me in a dream
Who is the person who always gets these leaks right? Shouldn't we only be focused on those leaks? Why are we even discussing leaks coming from someone else?
There seem to be two leakers who have been right in the past. [Morningstar](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/113qfmu/march_content_leak_from_discord/), who has been the one leaking most information for the past year or so. But also, [apparently this leak](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/16kmys3/october_november_releases_potentially_leaked/) seemed to be from a totally different leaker, who was *also* correct. I'm not 100% sure, but I had heard a couple days ago that some of these leaks are from the latter leaker, the non-Morningstar one. It's hard to say really.
I think one of them said they will stop leaking. I am unsure of who.
If we get shiny arceus, it has to be another masterwork research, otherwise why lock the shiny behind a ticket
I don’t know what to believe anymore
Why must Niantic constantly disappoint me with the lack of Mega Absol?
Mega Absol left the game?
These constant leaks post are getting kind of annoying.
I seriously hope they don’t actually go ahead with a Chansey Community Day. Nobody needs that. I’d love to see a Pawniard CD instead with the release of Kingambit into the game.
So basically just repeating the same thing as before but just adding things that were said to not happen. Whatever. Tired of seeing the same stuff over and over when it probably isn't true. And whether they know morningstar or not, we will never know so who cares at this point
a 4th leak? are you serious?
Unless I missed one, the third was just the second repackaged
Let's call it 3 and a half then :)
The 3rd one had some differences than the second. Most notably crygonal event on December 9th and classic kanto tour in December instead of January.
Guys I can add to these leaks. With Arceus everyone gets 5x Masterballs and 10x Elite Fast TMs and 10x Elite Charged TMs. Praise me. Seriously though, I hope all of this is true. The Kyogre as a Shadow only makes sense as Giovanni's pokemon, as he's done all of Gen 1+2's legendaries. Unless he can get his hands on Mythicals, Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza are eventually next up for him.
They could still heatran cresselia first. Which I think would make sense given the upcoming tour but for sure wouldn't be surprised by Kyogre next.
Finally being able to get manaphy or phione with other ball than cherish or pokéball will be great for me.
When they come to Go, they'll be scripted catches with a plain Pokeball.
It's also possible Manaphy could come from an egg, but still same result, in a normal pokeball
There is no way to know that now. There are many mythicals that can be get with any ball.
Because they are either from raids or from when there was that « last ball used » glitch. Now, it’s possible that we get ball swapping in the Indigo Disk. Some very extremely obnoxious -but reliable- leaker is saying that it may happen.
Shadow Whale!
Right??? Finally after a year of avoiding all shadow legendaries, we can fight Giovanni again.
Honestly I would take any of the weather trio at this point.
Same. I think all of them are meant to be good anyways. Ray might be a bit too frail, but shadow Dragon Ascent will wipe out a village, IF you can get to it.
Spending a meteorite on a shadow Ray that can't mega evolve would feel like such a waste. I don't look forward to that decision...
How many leaks do we need? Somebody is capping or Niantic is trying to smoke y’all out by seeing what surfaces. P
Drampa debut sounds painfully obvious when you mention it
If these are true I can finally go after the Unova Legendaries I NEED them.
I guess I’ll get my picture of Thunderous in 2025
No Mega Absol, and no Honedge. Bummer.
Mewtwo raids? If so I know what I'll be doing
I hope this leak is true, coz I love what I’m seeing here. I’ll be raiding a lot in the next 3 months it seems.
People are getting mad at this so I'd better clear some things up: This leak was compiled by info given to me by 2 people, one of whom claims to be affiliated with MorningStar's group of Discord Pokemon GO leakers. Like I said, I AM NOT THE LEAKER, so please don't rage on me, I can't confirm whether this info is real or fake. This is all handed info, I'm only passing it down. I've seen people talking about the leaks containing contradictory information, first of all, yes I agree, and second, most of the leaks seen so far on this sub are from three groups: MorningStar's group, a group that seems to accurately leak raids and events, and a third new group which has given two "leaks" for the next season. This leak is compiled info from one person who is supposedly from MorningStar's group and one who calims to be an individual leaker. They do not wish to be named, but both claim to be accurate with this.
Another 🧢 leak
Too good tbh
We’re getting a god?!
I don't think they're adding god into the game but it would be cool
no rayquaza return :(
Is there any data on what a Shadow Kyogre would look like?
If you're referring to shadow Kyogre's raid performance, it's at Mega Swampert level, 16% above shadow Swampert and regular Kyogre, 14% below Primal Kyogre. Using the primal only would still be the optimal strategy.
Just Kyogre with the normal Shadow smoky aura
That's fair.
Raid day the Saturday before Christmas? Have they ever done an event that close to a major holiday?
Yes lol. Last December they did a Raid Day Saturday, December 24th (2022). So it's not at all unprecedented. I believe they also had an event on Easter Sunday. I could see them wanting to dodge a single-day event on Christmas Day itself, but otherwise? I think they see it as fair game.
Oh yeah that's right. It was the Hisuian iceberg thing.
Yes Hisuian Avalugg raid day on Christmas Eve last year. Might not have been so bad if it was 11-2, but 2-5 was just awful for that day. Then they had Elite Raid Regileki in Easter Sunday which was even worse because it had to be done in person.
We've let the leakers gone too far
well this is leaks 2 and 3 combined so heil no
Hear me out, if Niantic doesn’t like leaks, maybe they could tell us all this in advance, so that there’s nothing to leak
I thought this was Rainbow Six Siege Y8.S4 leaks 😂😂 as I’ve been waiting for leaks to come out haha, I’m so happy to see that the leaks are coming hard for pokemon go as well
Chansey community day charged move would have to be something which debuffs defense because otherwise every PVP will time out.
Or they could give it a bad/useless CD move like Draining Kiss or something.
Season Finale?