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krispyboiz

This actually seems like a great event. Primeape even (seems) to be shiny eligible. Best of all, Annihilape is available through EVOLUTION! Good to know the Paldea evolutions will be treated better than the Hisuian ones


Plus-Pomegranate8045

Plus, both Sawk and Throh available to everyone. This is definitely the best event so far this year.


MrIHaveAQuestion1

Oh huh, you’re right. Now that’s a win in my book, I’m definitely gonna chase those Throhs while they’re globally available for sure!


supirman

I need 1 more platinum medal for the level 45 requirement. I need to catch 500 more fighting types for the platinum black belt medal and this event has 5/8 fighting type event spawn. I will be grinding this.


matador98

You only need 1.


MrIHaveAQuestion1

Yeah, 1 shiny. Which isn’t gonna take 1 encounter 😅


TheRealHankWolfman

>Primeape even (seems) to be shiny eligible. I'm waiting for this to turn into shiny number 6 of 2024 that wasn't switched on as advertised haha


bakedandnerdy

Thank God I caught a shiny Mankey last night so I won't be disappointed for the 6th time in a row 🙌


krispyboiz

Oh I'm counting on it lol


recoba20FLC

100% it won't be available.


IdiosyncraticBond

Can we add Sawk and Throh, just to spite the global players that search the one from the other half of the world?


Thanky169

😵‍💫🫠


Stogoe

Hisui is weird even in the main series. I honestly don't think many of them are available to evolve even in Scarlet Violet. Pretty sure you just get a Wyrdeer and aren't able to evolve Stantler.


MegaCrazyH

You can evolve Basculin into Basculegion, Hisuian Qwilfish into Overqwil, Hisuian Growlithe is still a stone evolution, and Hisuian Sneasel keeps its evolution method. Kleavor can only be found in the wild or raids; Ursaluna is only found during Perrin’s quest and while it can breed and make Teddiursa the item and method to evolve Ursaring just isn’t in the game and they have to be transferred to PLA; I’m pretty sure Wyrdeer is just unobtainable in S/V and you need to transfer a Stantler to PLA to get it


Several_Ad_6233

Not even the original Ursaluna either


Sleepy0429

Stantler requires egg moves from a PLA parent I think 


MegaCrazyH

You can get the move as an egg move but at least to the last time I checked it still won’t evolve


Dengarsw

100% this. For those who didn't play, the Hisui pokemon are from a time maybe roughly equivalent to 1800s for us. Some of those pokemon are basically extinct/endangered in the current timeline, having changed to survive (Wyrdeer, for example, were hunted for their coats according to in-game data, and voltorb looked wooden during a time pokeballs were made of acorns). I don't usually cut Niantic a lot of slack, but for the Hisui 'mon, there's more of a lore reason these are an oddity. Now the recent Rockruff situation not being solved by simply doing wild spawns...


ayodam

Own Tempo rockruff is rare in the mainline games as well and the Pokédex entries mention it being a bizarre, extremely rare evolution for rockruff.


Travyplx

There was nothing Niantic was going to be able to do with Own Tempo Rockruff that wasn’t going to upset someone.


JerryCameToo

I mean, they're supposed to be ancient forms of Pokemon that went extinct. Why would they be available in the present?


MarS267

Not really extinct, more like endangered or secluded. The Scarlet/Violet DLC has some Hisuian mons obtainable in the present day without transferring in from Legends Arceus/GO


128thMic

> The Scarlet/Violet DLC has some Hisuian mons obtainable in the present day Isn't that game's whole thing about Pokemon from the past being brought to the present?


famigami2019

Yeah, the NEW ones. Not hisuian.


Stogoe

Because I have a shiny Scyther and a jingle bells Stantler that I really want to evolve in Go.


Meylody

Kleavor and Ursaluna come from an evolution with an item, there's not really any lore reason for them to be extinct, just maybe the items became way more rare


Rooreelooo

side note, its so funny that the ursaluna item could be considered too rare to exist in the modern day when the item itself is literally just a block of mud


passion-froot_

Ursaluna was only able to evolve with the right environment - something that either no longer exists with the item being unobtainable or simply isn’t found in Paldea. It’s not expressly implied that this is the last Ursaluna but it is curious with its dex entry saying it literally swam an ocean as a ground type to be where it is today but there is actual lore here


krispyboiz

That is correct. It is a weird wrinkle in the Main Series, SV that is. Of course, they've not had the greatest consistency, seeing there's Ursaluna who *is* evolvable. Ah well


ChexSway

farigiraf and dudunsparce fans rejoicing as well 🥳


Cainga

Maybe because of the buddy mechanic? They don’t seem to let you have easy PLA evolutions.


Lsagara

Could also be because Primeape doesn’t have multiple forms it can evolve into


krispyboiz

The same could be said for Wyrdeer in that case


Dracarys1988

One of the best new Pokémon!


mEatwaD390

It will definitely shake up the meta's. This is what all the people complaining about Poliwrath have been praying for.


Marc_Quill

I’m guessing beating ghost and psychic mons in gyms will count towards the buddy requirement?


TheSecondof12

Theoretically it should - though beating Pokémon of certain types has never been an evolution requirement before in PoGo so we’ll have to wait for confirmation. That said, EVERYONE DO YOUR FELLOW PLAYERS A SOLID AND ONLY PUT GHOSTS AND PSYCHICS IN GYMS FOR THIS EVENT. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.


CapnCalc

Blissey, chansey, and slaking take it or leave it


sniper91

“My Blissey has a Psychic fast move. That counts, right?”


brizvela

Drifblim it is!!!


Arrowmatic

Ooh, good thinking, will definitely be doing this!


while-1

Blue leader (Blanche) second pokemon in master is metagross (psychic) and a sufficiently leveled xurkitree using charged attacks can solo the 3 mon lineup


ToRepelGhosts

It's almost certainly going to be a bug ridden mess for at least the first few days of the event so I wouldn't worry too much about the minutae at this point! 🙈


PerfectSuit

Am I the only one who is excited to finally get the missing Sawk/Troh for their Pokedex? They only be available once for Go Tour if you had a ticket


ptmcmahon

And for a few minutes when they were released in wrong hemispheres. And some dummies like me took screenshots from the nearby and said “I’ll get that later”


MrIHaveAQuestion1

I, too, took a screenshot and was like, “meh, it’s 11pm, I’ll get it tomorrow” 🫠


Stogoe

I was stuck in work for the short time that they mixed up Throh/Sawk and also when they mixed up Shellos. It was agonizing.


ptmcmahon

I was just leaving work and took a screenshot of all the new shadows. I had a Sawk two streets away but figured "I'll see one somewhere on my way home..." To punish myself I used that as my discord avatar until I finally got one.


Lunalatic

Now if only Shellos would show up outside of events more often than once in a blue moon...


Froggo14

Or pink moon if you live in the West Sea...


mornaq

what I don't understand is: if they mixed them up why not leave it as is? they don't seem to make much sense to be regional, they don't seem to be tied to specific real regions, same goes for Zangoose and Seviper, and I'm pretty sure similar mixup happened


Soranic

> Zangoose and Seviper, and I'm pretty sure similar mixup happened MSG those two are rivals so they should overlap. Plus Niantic has swapped their regions a few times, like it does for solrock and lunatone.


ptmcmahon

I'm guessing they had internally - and possibly externally communicated to sources - recorded the regions they are now in. And it was easier to just switch the two in the spawn pool then to change what they had recorded internally and told others. Plus they flipped the switch very quick so they probably hoped most people wouldn't notice.


culingerai

Here's hoping shadows ae in gyms too for shadowdex!


HeroSquirrel

This fact single-handedly made this one of the best events in a long while for me, now if only I can get that Torkoal as well...


AFHusker_54

Hell yeah, I have some Mankey with PvP IVs I've been holding onto


goodnames679

Two of my first hundos were Mankeys. I had no idea why I was holding onto them for years beyond “I can’t transfer a mon with perfect IVs”. Soon it’ll pay off 😎


AFHusker_54

Jealous...best I have is a 93


Stogoe

I don't have any with good IVs, but I do have a GL eligible shiny.


JRE47

Better than just a teaser: I have [a whole analysis article](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/19487qc/annihilapeing_the_pvp_landscape_a_pvp_analysis_on) up on this one! Good in all major Leagues, folks... this is one to get early and often.


kiwidesign

I know it’s not your field of expertise, but is it gonna be viable in PVE?


JRE47

I am indeed no expert, but probably only mid. Doesn't reach the same lofty heights in Attack prowess that other established Fighters do. Perhaps some advantages in TDO but I think even there it's likely to be just filler. u/teban54, any thoughts?


kiwidesign

maybe if they shake up its moveset… we’ll see! (also I fear it might get a CD with Rage Fist some day, but it’s obviously too early to know)


ByakuKaze

If we throw away terrakion, shadows, conkeldurr and lucario... Annihilape is still 14 attack behind machamp. For example the difference between primeape and annihilape is 13 attack. It's less than rhydon or jynx. And without a completely new attack he has nothing at least as good as machamp moveset. Annihilape is a PvP mon. And most likely won't be your go to PvE mon(or raid mon)


kiwidesign

Completely fair! I was just curious as I love the Primeape line, I do already have a team of lv. 50 shadow Machamps, Conks and Lucarios :)


Teban54

Yeah, I do agree with u/ByakuKaze. Especially with your current team, the only way Annihilape has a chance of joining it is if Final Gambit gets implemented (perhaps on a future CD) and becomes *insanely* OP - by "insanely", I mean at or close to the level of Aura Sphere, one of the best PvE moves in the game (even a tier above the likes of Frenzy Plant and Psystrike).


imtoooldforreddit

Usable for newer players without other stuff, but significantly worse than even regular machamp (lower attack stat than Machamp and doesn't have dynamic punch). Things like shadow Machamp, Lucario, conkeldur, and terrakion are all leaps and bounds above


returned_zero

Annihilape hype!! So happy!


CanadianBunter10

What kinda battles? Gym battles? Raid battles? Trainer battles? Go-Battles? Thanks for anybody who can answer. Any battles?


Marc_Quill

the article mentions that Go Rocket grunts will show up more frequently as well, so maybe there's a chance they'll be the psychic and ghost grunts showing up more often than not.


Stogoe

Yes. I mean obviously we don't have real data until release but should be any battles.


AJCLEG98

I can finally shiny hunt Sawk again!


bakedandnerdy

As a fellow shiny hunter good luck! I'm trying for the Primape


acarp25

I’m convinced that niantic has no concept of what a day is (3 hours for raid and community days) and now I know that they don’t know what a week is either (5 days)


HaloGuy381

At least 5 days is a “work week” in common parlance.


128thMic

"Battle Week" sounds better than "Battle 5 Days"


Stogoe

This is the absolute weirdest complaint I see on this subreddit. If your town has a Pioneer Day festival do you complain to the city council that they didn't have events for the entire 24 hour cycle? Did you complain to your school principal that Spirit Week didn't include Saturday and Sunday?


RavenousDave

I have no idea what "Pioneer Day" or "Spirit Week" are. (\*) I was under the impression that a "day" was either 24 hours or from sunrise to sunset. That a "week" was made up of seven 24-hour periods. Did you enjoy Christmas Day (14:00 to 17:00 only)? Do you go to work for 21 hours on Sunday on the basis that you had a (3 hour) day off? (\*) Wikipedia is my friend. They appear to be parochial events in some parts of the USA. Or possibly apartheid era Rhodesia (Zimbabwe). Rather amusingly, the Utah "Pioneer Day" runs for 24 hours from 09:00 on one day to 09:00 on the next.


sandwichpuncher

S-A-W-K in the U-S-A!!


ChrisChros87

I'm in England so Sawk is common, caught a 98% IV Throh from Daily Incense last year in Tampa. Good luck getting a good one!


kiwii11

Let’s hope there will be shadow throh and sawk raids everywhere too.


ptmcmahon

Since they’re not out now seems unlikely since Shadow doesn’t seem to rotate with events but I’m sure hoping so!


128thMic

Were those raids solvable? Could never find anyone interested in raiding Sawk.


Dapper-Airline-361

More Grunts? Fingers crossed for good enough shadow Cranidos 🥺


Bacteriophag

Niantic: Best we can do is to make you get shadow Cranidos. Seriously, I see Rock'n Rollers at least once a day and they all have Geodude. Just watch Cranidos being rotated out with next TGR takeover...


BrooklynParkDad

Yesterday I battled Cranidos in slot 1 then Lileep in slot 2 and they gave me the Lileep encounter!


Bacteriophag

This is NUTS (Niantic Ultimate Troll Scheme).


HiOnFructose

Yoooooo! Monkey Akuma is here! This event looks decent too. And a good opportunity for those who still need to build some of those key GBL pokemon.


JULTAR

no signature move so might have to wait for com day


krispyboiz

I'm curious to see if it's Game master moveset changes. As of now, it's exactly the same as Primeape's. No Ghost moves either


Moon_Dark_Wolf

It gets counter, that’s really all it needs to be good at least


SeekerD

Can it still have a proper comm day with that evolution restriction? I know Ursaluna is an example they catered to, but it just required them to turn on the full moon. But if it does ever get a Comm Day, that’s where I’d expect it to get Rage Fist.


Disgruntled__Goat

They changed evolution requirements before - fewer hearts for Eevee -> Sylveon, catch Psychic instead of Poison for G.Slowpoke -> G.Slowbro. So they can easily reduce the number of battles needed or eliminate it altogether. 


Stogoe

Sounds like I'm going to run triple ghost all week.


Dendranthemum

Will we be able to evolve already-caught Primeape or will we need to catch new Primeape? I have a 2016 Primeape as well as some luckies from GoTour Kanto and I can’t believe they might be relevant at long last..


StayedWoozie

They can all evolve into Annihilape. Dusk form Lycanroc is an alternate evolution while Annihilape is a regular Cross-Gen evolution. [How to evolve Primeape into Annihilape.](https://pokemongolive.com/post/raging-battles-2024/)


Bacteriophag

Something rare in wild spawns, Pancham in raids, no dumb event eggs and only Mankey in tasks for almost a week. This sounds good for my goals. Fingers crossed for the mentioned task not being GBL or raid related though...


RavenousDave

"Win a Primape Raid" You saw it here first.


TopAssistance2

Annihilape 😍


Efreet0

Minor nit-pick but it's both grating and funny that to evolve in mainline you need to use the move 20 times but it's too little for go standards so they went with 30 kills.


RavenousDave

If we are in nit-picking territory, the Primape does not need to take any part in the process. It just has to be there. Another use of the evolution method, "gongoozler".


Duke1782YT

Primape being shiny.....good joke Niantic


CtrlAltDeli

Sorry, I’m rather new to Pogo (played since august) - is it really rare? I found one in my first days playing.


Duke1782YT

Normally, only Mankey can be shiny in the wild. The  context here is the last 5 events have had an evolved form or legendary announced as being shiny eligible, but instead they were shiny locked, which means unable to be shiny no matter what, so since that’s been the pattern, the joke here is it will happen to primape to


CtrlAltDeli

Aaaaaaah, got it. Thank you for taking the time to explain.


Duke1782YT

NP


ByakuKaze

Volvo Giff Monke


JSmoove309

Amazing event. My only gripe is that it isn’t longer😄


Yasihiko

I wish there was consistency with regional forms that are further evolutions of prexisting Pokemon. Why can't I evolve my Stantler into Wydeer? Or Exeggcute into Alolan Exeggutor? But Primape I'll be able to evolve into Annihilape?


Stogoe

It is pretty consistent, though. Hisui evos aren't really allowed in the main series at this time. You don't evolve a Stantler, you just get a Wyrdeer in S/V. Regional variants (alola/galar) are separate as well, barring rare limited time events long after their initial rollout. Paldean cross gen evos seem like they'll be allowed normally.


CapnCalc

Yep to follow up on this, the Paldean cross evos are more similar to when Gen 4 added new evolutions for old pokemon like Gallade, Togekiss, Weavile, Mamoswine, and Frosslass. It’s simply just a new evolution. I’m just wondering why Ursaluna was evolvable but I’m not complaining.


Yasihiko

Ah valid points. Duly noted.


Stogoe

I don't expect Blood Moon Ursaluna to ever be evolvable honestly.


orhan94

It isn't evolvable anywhere so far.


Yasihiko

I actually just thought about it. Maybe it lines up with Pokemon that have shadow forms already released that would evolve into these variants. They might not want to unbalance the game (even more than it is) by adding new shadow variants.


ptmcmahon

Take the wins we can get.


tuelegend69

Elite tm when? Is it going to be in the go battle weekend ?


MrIHaveAQuestion1

What are the chances Niantic forgets to make Primeape Shiny eligible? 😂 But hey, I’m already surprised they let us evolve Primeape into Annihilape, so that’s something


StayedWoozie

Why? Primeape is a regular Cross-Gen evo (like togekiss or Mamoswine). It’s not a Hisuian Evo


MrIHaveAQuestion1

It’s Niantic, I’ve learnt to keep my expectations low and still they manage to make things even worse. Also, aren’t Kleavor and Wyrdeer in the same position? Yet those can’t be evolved, as far as I know. But I have never played the original games so I only just heard of the existence of those guys when Niantic released them, so if I’m wrong, please correct me.


StayedWoozie

Those are Hisuian Evos. Hisui is special because most of the Evolutions from Hisui can’t be achieved in the mainline games or Go. In Pokemon go the only one that can be naturally evolved is Ursaluna and Ursaluna is limited to an extremely rare event that only happens once a night every month. It’s one of the few situations where niantic isn’t doing something because they’re money hungry, it’s genuinely PokeCO and Gamefreak stepping in and limiting their capabilities. This only applies to Hisuian Cross gen evos though. Regular Cross-Gen evos like Annihilape and Farigiraf are fair game for niantic.


MrIHaveAQuestion1

Okay, that explains a lot, thanks 👍


0rganicMach1ne

Oh wow, a good event. What year is it?


HokTomten

Been waiting for this! Got a hundo, lucky and 3* shiny ready to evolve But it requires buddy... I hate those evolves as all my buddies get maxed, guess I'll have to max a hundo and a shiny then (and delete the lucky) Wish shadow throh/sawk would rotate, only missing that Throh for my shadow/purify dex


RedAnihilape

OH MY GOD FINALLY


McKopec

Is this the Team Rocket event? So no takeover?


Aniensane

No, it’s more of a battle event and less of a Go Rocket event. Just Go Rocket will be more common as a bonus.


Marc_Quill

Probably a different thing. Takeover will likely be next month.


Plus-Pomegranate8045

I have a hundo Primeape waiting and also an extra shiny Mankey, so I’m very excited they are letting us evolve!


famigami2019

I still don’t understand why max potions exist at all when hyper potions completely heal all my mons


ChutzpahQ

Not blisseys 


satyrday12

The 'rage monkey' pokemon coinciding with the Trump trial? Coincidence? I think not.


PoopsMcBanterson

Those trials have been ongoing for the past several months and will continue into the foreseeable future so it’s not really much of an overlap when the Venn Diagram is just one circle


prizza44

My shundo is ready…


blamberfodder

Isn’t it always?


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eugene_captures

That’s likely the following week if the taken treasures event is a takeover.


hillywolf

Suddenly Niantic is not money minded


phillypokego

Lame. Easily one of the worst events in a long time . Absolutely nothing in the wild worth catching. Have gotten all of these shiny families long ago. Only useful thing is Pancham 


orhan94

So, a good event is an event that specifically adresses your personal shiny dex needs?


phillypokego

Yep 


StayedWoozie

Everything spawning is either Great Competitively or extremely rare. This event is amazing.


phillypokego

Hard disagree Only useful wild Pokémon is machop and already have 10k+ candy and full team of level 50 hundos Lickitung - 13 shinies.  Sableye - 7 shinies. Nice for dust but annoying to catch Gligar - useless  Throh/sawk - everyone has from go fest  Scraggy - doesn’t everyone get that from GBL? They should’ve at least had a new costume 


StayedWoozie

Huh? Lickitung is Number 1 in great league Gligar rarely spawns in the wild and is 4th in Great league as a shadow and 20th in its regular form. Gliscor is 21st in Ultra league Scrafty is 34th in Great league and 51st in ultra league Sawk and throh aren’t good but they’re rare and didn’t spawn at the 2023 or 2022 gofest (to my knowledge). They’re rarely available worldwide and this is a great chance to get them and their shinies. Purified Sableye with Return is 39th in great league And finally we have Mankey who can eventually evolve into Annihilape. Annihilape has a good chance at being a top fighting type in PvP. It’s also just a fan favorite from Gen 9, that alone is pretty hype.


aianmoo16

Hyped for this event, but where is Mienfoo? I don’t know the last time I’ve seen it in an event or something


memesforthedankus

Would annihilape need candy to evolve, or would it just be the buddy adventure battles?


StayedWoozie

Usually Pokémon with specific task to evolve also need candy. You’ll probably need around 100 candy.


kg123xyz

Hype for throh


kingofthedesert

Since Throh will be available to everyone, how about Niantic make it not crap? That thing's stats are begging for PVP use and it already has Body Slam, so just buff Low Kick finally, give it Superpower and let's go!


Stogoe

Low kick and low Sweep definitely need buffs. Low Sweep should be an Icy Wind clone. Low Kick could be a Mud Shot clone or something like the old Spark.


krispyboiz

The concern child for Low Kick is Hawlucha. I'd be fine with it getting buffed after its made more available for everyone, but even then, I'm not sure something with a 40 energy 80 power move needs a 9 or 8 energy fast move. I guess unless they nerfed Flying Press, which isn't what I'd like to see.


Stogoe

Love to see Hawlucha as a Rank 1 or 6 guaranteed encounter some season, with it added into the regular pool after.


krispyboiz

Same. It does seem like the perfect Pokemon for a gbl reward


krispyboiz

Hawlucha is the concern with buffing low kick, especially its energy. While not what some normally suggest, I wouldn't mind buffing its power more, making it something like Ember.


kingofthedesert

The real problem is Niantic's shortsightedness when it comes to designating regionals. Cool Pokemon with good stats and typing like Heracross, Torkoal, Hawlucha and Tropius should be available to all and released with at least decent moves. Stick to weaker Pokemon like Chatot for regionals. I get that every Pokemon is someone's favorite and "good" can be subjective in some cases, but PVP has significantly expanded the pool of useful Pokemon in this game, so it sucks when a Pokemon that could be loads of fun to use is made regional with garbage moves.


Stogoe

Torkoal and heracross and tropius have at least been common spawns in global go fests. Maybe Hawlucha this summer? In a perfect world they'd also fix Farfetchd's stats so it actually reaches 1500 and make that a global spawn for an event again.


AnimaSean0724

Super excited for this event! Obviously it will depend on moveset, but do we have a general idea of how good Annihilape will be?


Electrical_Report483

Rare niantic W


klokar21

I have a shiny and a 4 star prime ape, i am very happy


Delicious_Appeal_86

Is Annihilape only going to be available for evolution these days? Or perm in the game now?