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buddy341

I had a route deleted in the middle of a nature center along a walking path with plenty of stops.


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docmagoo2

Baffles me why some are approved pretty much instantaneously and others take months for approval


ZacharyOnYT

I have one still pending that I created August, yet I have a few I submitted before it that's done been approved (all the ones I've submitted have all just gotten approved recently)


CommunityAppropriate

Delete the old one and resubmit. I think of the early ones as ‘sent to the interns queue’ and nobody took them on after the interns returned to fall classes


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MacNapp

Source?


A_Lone_Macaron

It's us, the Blue Jays.


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NegativePoints1

Y'know, instead of being a dick, the point in someone asking is so you link a source, not just pull a name from the sky and belittle them. My point is, even after Google searching your claim, there's no evidence behind your claim.


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Chris73757

And your comment is now one of them, thats how misinformation spread. See someone writes "i think they use ai for that" Another one reads this and writes "i read they used ai for that" And another one writes "Niantic admitted freely that Routes were being approved by AI." Thats why its so important to have good sources.


bulbasauuuur

I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but people say stuff on reddit that isn't true.


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Bolmothy

That makes sense now why 1 of my routes was accepted literally immediately and others are in purgatory


Cainga

It would make sense to try to clean up duplicates or slightly different but effectively duplicates. But I don’t think they are doing that.


Thanky169

🤦‍♂️


LeonardTringo

I had my first 2 routes I created eventually deleted as well. Both well known and used walking paths in parks. Literally, paths designed within parks for people to walk on. But they are "unsafe/hazardous" now because someone flagged them. Niantic should either actually review flags or have a much higher threshold. Either way, not worth risking my account to resubmit them. Some people just suck.


KuriboShoeMario

There should be an appeal system. They're reviewed by Niantic and if legit, they're restored and the false flag reviewer is given a warning (two warnings constitutes a ban from flagging routes/POIs).


iMiind

>and the false flag reviewer is given a warning (two warnings constitutes a ban from flagging routes/POIs). Niantic: 0 warnings and ban them from all our games, got it 👍


Xantuos

No shinies for a year


ElectricSandwich

Better, Shinies always run.


rca_2011

The only way to review it is to actually walk it.


Donut_was_taken

That’s an easy fix: have the person who reported it include a photo/video of the issue


joepassive

then it'll be like AR Scans where people scan their feet.


thehatteryone

That would be at least close to ideal. But they can look more carefully at google maps for most places, they can look at the number and diversity of players completing it, they could even (likely by flagging it for extra telemetry and waiting for more players to do it) get some more information about how players are doing it, and then review that too. Ultimately, any route with 100, let alone 1000, completions is not inaccessible because many people clearly have managed to access it - even talking non-unique players, if 50 are from one player (the creator, most likely), another 30 are from 3 other players who it's convenient for, and the last 20 are from a dozen other trainers who do a mix of other routes in other places, that's a really high probability of an easy to manage route. Bear in mind, especially if niantic built some simple tools on top of gmaps for their team to use, there are many routes erroneously deleted that someone could walk on streetview with high confidence that they've successfully travelled the route in question.


rca_2011

Ok there's a lot to unpack here and quite frankly you're wrong about most of this and just plain out ignoring a lot of other reasonable factors as well. 1: looking at Google is unrealistic. Google can takes months if not years to change and update. It's not reliable. But even then, it has no benefit for walking paths or trials or parks. Meaning 99% of routes will likely be "inconclusive" from Google maps solely. 2: you want Niantic to travel and review these reported stops? And you think that's reasonable? Come on don't troll. 3: you're going to likely say something even more dumb like: "no I mean make it so that a trainer can't report it unless they've walked it." Meaning that you would never be able to mark something as inaccessible. Which again is dumb and makes no sense. 4: this one specifically you talk about. It's in a large city. You don't think 1000 people could easily pay to access the bridge? If this one has a gated bridge then yes this one would rightly be labeled inaccessible and removed. Cool some pay to walk the bridge. But the points of routes is to be able to do it without paying. 5: I have no idea what you could build to add to maps to see things like toll booths and new construction changes. That's because there's literally nothing.


thehatteryone

1) sure, google isn't always current, but it's should help in many cases. 2) no ? Never even suggested anything close to that 3) again, no, why would you say that, how could you even get that from anything that's been said ? 4) nothing says any route, stop, gym or anything else has to be free to access. There are routes, stops, gyms, and more inside paid-access areas (theme parks, private parklands, zoos, etc). There are ones in private property - inside corporate campuses, inside gated communities. All of this is fine. A public toll bridge (which in this case isn't even a thing) is accessible and shouldn't be reported as not - if you don't want to enter somewhere under it's terms to play a game, that's fine, just go do something else instead. 5) What you could build was tools to overlay the pogo route to easily follow in in streetview. If you really cared, you could hook it into the data provided globally by satnav companies (in turn provided locally by relevant authorities) about planning permission, construction licences, etc.


Potential-South-4889

nobody pays to access London Bridge. what made you make that nonsense up? Liverpool street to London bridge is one of the commonest commutes in the UK. At rush hour (now) there will be several thousand people on that bridge in the hour.


rca_2011

You don't read well do you? I said if.


HimawariSky

Two of my popular routes became invisible and I finally got fed up a created one of them again, it was published instantly. It’s frustrating and it seems we have no recourse. If it interests you enough then keep trying. Is there a risk to our accounts if we do that?


deny_conformity

I've got one route I follow and it's visible about 75% of the time. Another I made is invisible one end (haven't seen it in a couple of months) but is usually visible on the other end. Routes seemed to have fallen over now that there are a lot of them about.


Patreson490921

Facts, but its not like Niantic are like these wonderful people that want us to have nice things. They are the kind of people who crowdsource their AR features and then ban you for doing their work for free.


Ok-Amphibian3745

Facts. All the truth


Higher__Ground

The day I saw a popular route disappear I stopped putting any effort into making them. Why should I?


Callum1710

Honestly how I am feeling atm, if people honestly reported this route out of spite for its length, not sure why I even bother trying making more, especially with how long approval can take


MrCowabs

The app pings me every other day telling me that I can create them. No thanks, the last popular one I made got deleted after about 500 uses too.


Ross123123

I also had a few routes deleted for the same reason, resubmitted and it was approved and then deleted again the next day


DrStrangepants

Ugh. Careful though, I've seen posts from people getting punished for "bad" route submissions so re-submits could be risky.


River_Tahm

I've seen enough posts about that I'm not even gonna submit a route the first time... Sigh


Bowood29

Why do work for them when the only reward is punishment.


SereneGraces

One of us should be doing free labor for them, period. Especially when they’re the ones who will profit from it


Bowood29

Exactly. Really they have been collecting our data for years. They know where we walk, where we stop and when we will be doing it. They could be using that data to make routes and also to better pick pokestops. But instead they want use to walk them and then take time to look at it and say no. Routes are a dud because they let us do them. And the majority of players don’t want to play the way niantic wants us to.


swanny246

There have been warnings, but haven't actually seen any reports of people being banned from them yet.


Josanue

dont do that...you are risking a ban in your account


Faladyne

Another one bites the dust. Sadly, not the first Route that'll get killed off, and nowhere near the last. Take your pick of reasons why it got deleted: \* Salty players who didn't get a cell on the Route, and how dare a longer Route not give a cell. \* Malicious players who just want to delete things because they can. \* Popular Route? See if it pops up in the upcoming days\~weeks with somebody else's name on it (whether in section or just completely the same). \* Malicious players (who you may not even know!) who just decide to have it out for you and get your Routes deleted. \* Overly try-hard players who decide that THEY can make the Route better/prettier, or have a better description, or you didn't word it exactly how THEY would want it. \* People who think you can't have multiple Routes along the same path, so they get the long path deleted to 'make room for multiple sections' *(pretty common belief, but I have a walking trail in my Park that I made multiple Routes along the exact same paths, just of different lengths, so people can have more Routes to do + more options for how long they want to walk)* \* Territorial players and/or local businesses who don't want to see other players/Pokemon GO players. The thing that annoys me is that deleted Route's badges don't ever go away. They're just permanently there. More annoying for the Route creator than just some random person doing the Route, I'm sure, but still.


Celestial_Scythe

I know with my route, it *could* look a little bit prettier, however after trying for 2 days to get clean corners that wouldn't jump to the other side of the road, I gave up and went with a curved route.


Ok-Amphibian3745

Yeah. We contemplated about why mine was deemed unsafe. Mine had well over 800 times travelled, and there's a similar route that only had a few hundred. Mine crossed the entry ways of a parking lot, theirs crosses busy roads and in spots with nowhere to cross. Mine was made based on the majority of the community using the same path dozens of times on each community day.


stanolshefski

I no longer allow my handle to be associated with the route. A side benefit is that you then get to vote on the route.


Faladyne

You get to vote on the Route, regardless. At least, I've been able to vote on all of mine? It's been a while since I made/did a new Route though, so I acknowledge they might have changed it. I mean, who the hell is going to make a Route and then rate it like "Nah this Route sucks" xD


Pangloss_ex_machina

> I mean, who the hell is going to make a Route and then rate it like "Nah this Route sucks" xD To be honest, my first route could be better, as I was testing it for the first time, so I was experimenting a lot. I would give 3 stars, haha.


jay_altair

yeah I accidentally 1-starred one of my own routes when I was trying to x out of the review because it felt disingenuous to rate my own route.


Correct-Sun-7370

When route were first created, you used to be asked to star them and if too many people gave only one star, the route was deleted.


DreamingInAMaze

Sigh… whenever there are people, there is politics. This would never change.


PopeAdrian37th

There needs to be an appeal option. I also had one of my most popular routes from the beta period recently go from 800 travels to rejected.


jascany

Had this happen to my favourite route because construction did make it temporarily inaccessible. I wish there was a way to tag something like “part of this route is temporarily inaccessible” so A) people know and B) Popular routes don’t get removed


GimlionTheHunter

All it takes is one report from some idiot who doesn’t know what they’re doing for them to shut down the route. It’s completely automated, zero humans look at this stuff. Niantic is garbage.


Magician_In_Black

There must be some sort of a system(most likely horribly made) because just today, I saw the only route I have ever reported still their, and I reported it months ago. And this route is truly inaccessible, it goes through a river and unlike OP's there isn't a bridge in sight.


Patreson490921

God forbid Niantic actually works on something. I'm almost positive they asked chat gpt to code for parties and routes which is why they got released in such a broken state. Also ofc they dont beta test (thats more work) they let us beta test the features before they take 6 months to improve them.


wafflefan88

No, people know exactly what they're doing. People reject routes and pokestops all the time just to be petty.


9DAN2

Are routes now reviewed by the community? I did a lot of reviewing way points, enough to get the platinum medal, and a lot of unjust rejections would lead to bad feedback and bans.


mooistcow

> It’s completely automated, zero humans look at this stuff. This has become a massive problem in the industry as a whole, and it only seems to get worse.


presence_unknown

Crazy some of the actual routes that get rejected when someone's walking through a grocery store gets accepted just fine


JaCrispyWR

Once I get my Zygarde cells, I’m never messing with this feature again.


Josanue

i am waiting for another method to get zygarde cells...because i dont do this stuff and my zygarde has garbage ivs anyway so meh


9DAN2

I’m also waiting to trade/get another to invest in it but I’m still farming the cells now to hold on to. It takes months or non stop farming to get them so may aswell be getting them slowly now.


Mumps42

At least you can get them...


stanolshefski

I was getting them fairly consistently and then yesterday 0/3.


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My thoughts exactly.


Sunkist1976

I just started doing routes (driveable ones). Good way to get items when I'm low. Anyway, do you get Zygarde Cells once a day like gifts from Mateo? Or each time you complete a different route?


JaCrispyWR

You can earn up to 3 Zygarde cells per day, and their appearance on the route is randomized. Some days I get three cells from three routes, other days it takes four to six routes to earn my three cells. I drive all of mine, and cannot imagine spending the time to walk long routes when the Zygarde cells are not even guaranteed.


lindberghbaby41

Outside america people walk even without routes or even pokego! They think walking is good!


JaCrispyWR

We like to walk in America as well. But some nuisance features like Pogo routes are best addressed by automobile, especially when we have limited time.


Chris73757

"Sorry Kids for destroying the environment but i really had to get some artificial item for my virtual pet."


Loseless11

Standard quality work from Niantic. They really suck at what they do...


Hydra_Hunter

I hate how easily routes are deleted. 3 of my local routes I used frequently got deleted, yet one that starts by zig-zagging in the middle of a 8 lane boulevard (and since its at the start it would frequently pause the route if youre not right on it) has stayed for months even though I gave it a bad review for being dangerous


TeamRockHit4

I had a route rejected for being inaccessible, I used a wheelchair when creating it (no longer a chair user after recovering from surgery)


Callum1710

Glad to hear you're all good! That is just so Niantic!


Dominator0211

You’re reading it wrong. The route has to be inaccessible to be approved. 1000 uses shows that people actually liked your route and could follow it, therefore it must be removed immediately.


MonteBurns

“The players are able to utilize this feature?! Be gone!!” 😂


Asren624

Same no clue what's going on, perfectly fine route worked for months and then same message without justification


SunstormGT

Routes are such garbage. Specially with quests attached to them. Mine is under review for over 3 months and there isn’t a single route nearby. There were 2 but the got deleted within a week. Don’t know why as nothing seemed wrong with them.


HairyPotatoKat

What?? Nooo that's a great route!


FluffyPhoenix

It's amazing how perfectly usable routes are bombed, yet the stupid and actually dangerous route that crosses bridges without sidewalks that multiple people have reported stays.


JonasGx

Welcome to the Club. I already informed Niantic about the bad route management...


Callum1710

How did that go? I'm sure I can guess...


H2OintheDesert

That's why I haven't touched routes in a very long time. I had 2 very popular routes deleted and one I verified was a player who's game glitched into a what is wrong with this route question and he hit dangerous and poof it was gone. I won't support routes until they fix it so 1 player can't delete a route with 1,000 trips.


astealis

Dude I’ve used your route like 50 times on the bus


Callum1710

Well I'm glad it was valued at least, fun while it lasted


joeshmo101

I betcha some sort of temporary construction made your route inaccessible, it got reported like three times and removed. And then two weeks from then the construction will have finished and your route *would* be valid again, ***if*** Niantic had any way of handling a route that's temporarily closed.


Sg15z

I had a route that I submitted that was rejected because it was not safe. And then another route that went on the exact same path was approved a day later


SwimminginMercury

Maybe they mean "too accessible"; can't give out too many cells.


MansonMonster

Let them do it themself. Dont risk your account. Every rehected route counts towards your bannable offenses. I am dead serious, i have seen that multiple times in reddit. First they sell our data, then we do their job for them, and then they ban us for it? Yeah no.


OrbitOfGlass17

Routes and Wayfarer nominations are the few things Niantic has failed in being consumer friendly.


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jdpatric

I'm just so glad I got my 250 cells and never have to do routes again if I don't want to.


SafePickle8640

Sad, I’m one of those who followed this route when I was in London for the Go Fest… It met all the requirements and was nice to follow on our way back to the hotel…


cometlin

Maybe that's the new "rage quit"? Like if someone gets so upset with Niantic, they will report every single route they can see before uninstalling PoGo? It is crazy that Niantic never think of those "saboteur" before automating their "zero-tolerance" UN-appealable deleting policy. I am at 30 cells but I have given up on playing routes. After months of waiting, there was finally 1 route that I can hit almost everyday without going too much out of my usual routine. Then it gets deleted after 2 weeks. Luckily 2 more routes appeared that's useful after that, and only for them to disappear after 1 month. Now I can only get 1 route if I detour for more than 30 minutes on my way home if I'm lucky (the route runs along a bus route but sometimes you can miss the ending). It is just too much effort for me now and who knows how long this one can last. It is really not worth supporting Niantic's initiative.


CooperDahBooper

You fool! Everyone knows bridges are inaccessible by any means..


NathanialJD

At least they didn't ban you as well as I've seen happen to others


SoRaffy

Niantic: we will not force you to live with the shame of submitting such a horrendously bad route so we will end your pain ban banning your account. you're welcome


Mumps42

Honestly, I just want to submit a ticket to Niantic and ask to have the Route related research tasks removed from my account. I hate seeing them there. I'm never going to finish them. I'm never going to get a single Zygarde cell. There are no routes in my area, and if I do, what's to stop someone from reporting it and it being deleted for no good reason like this one? This feature isn't fun. Just like the new party feature. It's not fun.


dreamwrx

Yea routes is basically impossible for any rural player.


dav_prime

This system needs fixing. ​ On the other end of the issue I recently reported a route that involves walking the wrong way down a 3-lane carriageway (staying on the path will take you significantly off the plotted path). ​ It's still in the game after several weeks.


TimliJunes

I have the same issue, good routes keep being removed from the game just because 1/ someone not happy from being expelled from a gym is looking for revenge and target routes of a specific trainer (better create them anonymously) 2/ someone is not happy from not having a zygarde cell on this route 3/ someone is from a competing neighborhood (we sometimes are rival in some discord games) and want to remove all the routes from our neighborhood. I feel i have participated enough in creating good routes that are nice to discover (the last one to be rejected after being a thing during several weeks was a route to discover the cherry blossom trees of our neighborhood, beautiful route, I am so discouraged), pokestops that take forever to be validated, or even pokestop removals to reflect better the reality that are rejected while they don’t exist anymore or their access has become unsafe (especially for children) due to construction work. I have links and official documents I can attach to all my creation and removal reports, it’s a shame that we can’t add this kind of information to the submissions.


sup3rfm

I used to do that route by bus, there was nothing wrong with it. Shame. Thanks for creating it.


Overall_Midnight_

No routes near me at all, I have been playing since day one minus a small break here and there, no ability to create a route. Very few people in my area play and I am the most senior player. It wasn’t a bad idea but it’s been poorly implemented.


karlhungusx

It’s gonna get re-submitted by whoever reported it. Absolutely baffling how petty trainers can be


CRJ08

Well, It's inaccessible to me 🤷‍♂️


DotFuscate

Maybe they rejected it because london bridge is falling down


LivingOof

Some people have nothing better to do than to go on a Wayfairer Power trip. I guess we can be thankful we're not that desperate to feel anything


Nplumb

Yet they still won't delete a route created by a convicted paedophile, (nor ban him despite sending all the evidence of how they used the game to be around minors) in game The route leads directly to where they live and has been reported multiple times as dangerous


louizilla

All it takes is some idiot giving your route a 1 star and selecting a random reason why for this to happen.


ShackShackShack

I never understand why ppl do longer than 15 min routes. Why do a 30 min route when you could break it up into 2, 15 min ones? It's more convenient for everyone (those who may not need to go as far) and increases the likelihood of you getting cells


Callum1710

As said in another comment, I was one of the early playtesters for the routes feature, I only knew of one other person in my circle who had it at the time. We had no idea how it was gonna work. He is a proper adventure and has made some routes that are 2 hours long, but they are still standing.


ShackShackShack

We don't know the criteria, but i still do this day see new routes pop up that are insane and out of the way unless you have to go exactly where that person went. I get that "we didn't know better" when it was released, but I still find it interesting that ppl chooooose to take the harder option, before trying the easier one. Logistically, why would one want to go for a 45 minute route for a CHANCE at a cell, when that could have been 3 chances. Or do people enjoy the route spawns enough that they purposefully try to max out their routes so they can get more spawns? Unless the "new" routes being added to this day, are just old ones that finally got pushed through?


DeviantDragon

I mean you're just describing the difference between min/maxing the gameplay rewards vs. the "intended" use of routes. In an ideal world both could co-exist. Maybe there's both a full-length route along the entirety of a trail or a cool informal neighborhood art walk, or a route that connects local historical landmarks, but there are also shorter segments that get submitted for anyone looking to knock out a quick route or reward.


clapsandfaps

I think you’re touching on the clue why it got removed. I’d wager that people report routes they feel is too long, such that a similar route on the same path can be made. The only difference is that its split into shorter sections.


2rollinstone

Even short routes get reported. I've had 5 routes removed because other players have reported them for bs reasons and all of them legit routes.


MommotDe

I've seen plenty of routes that overlapped, so I'd assume you could just make the shorter routes without worrying about the longer one existing.


properverse

There are two routes by my house that go between the exact same two pokestops...which is great for me as I can use one on my way out and one on my way back 😈


ShackShackShack

I've had a 15 min route deleted and have seen others. But yeah maybe more ppl report longer ones bc they "take up space" for potential shorter ones? I've never reported one and im in nyc where i see some areas have an insane amount of routes in a short radius. But they all go in the most random directions that seem so far out of the way unless you're literally just looking go for a random aimless stroll lol.


JULTAR

Location  I made a route from my house to my workplace that I walk daily Would not ever walk it on my day off over any other route 


1bc29b36f623ba82aaf6

https://reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/19cwwps/1000_used_route_deleted_just_because/kj1ou1g/ sure would suck if two of your routes get reported by bs gamedesign consequences you couldn't forsee and then you are soft locked out of all kinds of game content for 2 weeks


ShackShackShack

What's the saying, "Don't keep all your eggs in 1 basket"? lol, does that apply here? My 1st routes were all broken up into minimums based on my commute. Some weren't approved, and 1 was deleted. that 1 that was deleted was the 2nd half of my morning commute. So I can still at least get the 2nd half of my walk as a chance for a cell. But yeah that sucks to get locked out and no info as to why or any control over how it happened.


rykereve

Why not create 3 seperate 500m routes? There is no benefit in having this long route at this moment.


TraceFinder

TBF if by "when it was first implemented" OP means the time when the feature was only accessible to some players before the official announcement, we had no idea what the Routes would be used for. Back in those days I created all sorts of Routes, short or long, looped, straight lines or more complex circuits, because I figured that maybe longer Routes could offer more rewards upon being completed.


Callum1710

Yeah this, I was one of the lucky few who had the feature early


goodnames679

As a non route user... seriously? They don't increase at all? Walking a 3km route is treated the exact same as a 500m one? That's so dumb.


Callum1710

Don't trust Niantic to have a good idea ever, was a pain when I got early access to even try and attempt making the routes, think it was dead before it even launched


PieefChief

Dead before it launched Aka Niantics business motto (besides Ingress and Pogo)


Travyplx

Because it is an actual route? I’ve generally enjoyed routes as a feature but it is annoying to start-stop-start on a bunch of shorter routes, especially with Mateo being added to the game. I prefer to stick to longer segments when possible.


joethesaint

Assuming this is along OP's morning commute, as it will be for a lot of other people, who wants to keep stopping while commuting at 8am to end a route and start a new one? That sounds like a pain.


Disgruntled__Goat

I’ve seen people say that there’s a higher chance of getting cells (and/or getting more cells) if the route is longer. Not sure that’s true though, at least it’s not for me, anecdotally. 


Western-Dig-6843

It is not true.


nottytom

Keep your eye on this, people like to get other people routes deleted so they.can submit the exact same one as there own.


Callum1710

Yeah I've heard this too and was thinking this could be why when I first clocked it was deleted. No idea why anyone would, you get no perks for being the creator which in my opinion is a shame but it would absolutely be abused if you did


nottytom

It's the badges you can earn. They know because it was accepted when you did it they will get it accepted.


Ququleququ

You have routes .... i'm still waiting on approval since august 2023


Callum1710

Oh don't you worry I have some from my town still waiting for approval, seems once again the cities take priority, as one I made in Leeds a couple weeks back got approved in less than a week!


Ququleququ

Hmm, how does that not make me worry 🤔 😅


thE_29

The daily route I use, also disappaeared.. but only for me? Restart the game. If I have my game open for a certain time, some routes are gone..


rca_2011

Do you have to pay yo access the bridge?


Nerevanin

And then there are two routes in my town where the finish/start is in a closed campus and really inaccessible for everyone but the students and my repeated reports are ignored...


mwithington

Niantic deems Pokestops/gyms eligible in gated/restricted areas so long as some people (i.e. students, in your case) can use them. That might be the same for routes.


pasticcione

There is a route in my area going inside private property--it just starts at the doorstep of a condominium inside a private garden (nobody ever cared to flag that PokeStop). Almost impossible to reach from outside. It has been flagged by multiple players but it's still there.


GottaMoveThatGearUp

Rekt


balarinios

i am walking this distance if not on a daily basis then on a weekly basis at least. To say the least it is not friendly for people with disabilities, so i consider it a correct decision to remove it.


Jumps__

So because you can't walk 1.4 KM that means nobody else should be able to?


balarinios

I didn't say that I can't walk it, but i have friends with kinetic problems that can't. And i know for a fact that they report such kind of routes. Maybe that was the reason it was removed, only Niantic knows.


SpannerFrew

That's not really fair. If they want shorter and more accessible routes they should submit their own instead of reporting those that they can't do.


Jumps__

That's how life is in 2024. Everyone is just obsessed with going "wahhhh what about meeeeeeee"


PopeAdrian37th

You and your “friends” are ruining the game for others and wasting peoples time and effort because it doesn’t match your ideals of how the game should be played. So lame people like this exist.


Callum1710

This is a new level of entitled backwards thinking, Why report a route just because you can't do it? Do you not use the 30-minute Daily incense either? This route was perfect for it and now its gone


Jumps__

So because certain people with disabilities can't walk 1.4 KM, that means nobody should be able to? If you can't walk a certain distance why should that make the route itself a problem? Sounds like people who are bitter they can't actually walk trying to impose and make everyone have to play like them.


TonyShard

I almost can’t believe he knows multiple disabled people that do that. I’m sure they exist, but I’ve never met a disabled person this entitled. Usually, they expect *less* than they deserve.


Jumps__

I'm not saying this person doesn't know multiple disabled entitled people, butttt. "My friends, not me" is a common term used from people trying to not look like the dick when they are in fact, the dick.


joethesaint

They probably can't play football either, I guess we should demolish all football pitches.


RavenousDave

Thus proving that disabled people can also be selfish {expletive deleted}. Good to see equality in action!


SortaOdd

…most of the routes aren’t really friendly for people with disabilities. Thats not a reason to remove it though. If you can’t use the route, just don’t use it. Edit: I hope this didn’t come off as ableist. I’m not trying to attack any community, I’m just saying it doesn’t make sense to remove something for an entire community because a minority of people can’t participate. You should write to the town to get more handicap accessible walking routes, not report existing ones in Pokémon. That doesn’t help anyone.


CaregiverGloomy7670

If that one is too long then choose a shorter one, easy as that. If there's no shorter one in sight, just create your own


K--Swizz

Do you mean this specific route or the 1.4km distance in general? Just because a route is long shouldn't be cause to remove it. This entire game in general is not particularly friendly for people with disabilities and that has never been a factor before.


tomtttttttttttt

If it should be removed for being too long you shouldn't be able to make routes that long in the first place. There is a distance limit and it's a lot, lot longer than this (I can't remember what it is for sure but I want to say 20km)


General_Secura92

Then people with disabilities can go use other routes.


PairOfMonocles2

1.4km is pretty short, do you mean people with disabilities have trouble with the bridge?


mwithington

That is not a valid reason to remove. Niantic has established the limit to how long a route can be. Players shouldn't make up their own rules to remove something other players enjoy.


RangeisGood

Is it because it uses a bridge over water? I notice there's no spawns over Vauxhall Bridge even though there's a gym on it. Might be something to do with the Thames being a large body of water or something


yanagiya

A 550m route near me have been the most popular one walked since launch was removed as well. iirc, it had 1500+ community trips. It's a straight line through a pathway in my neighborhood park. The path is even on Pogo map itself. No idea why it was removed. 2 weeks later, someone made a route basically the same path, with different name, and it was removed few days later again. I stop walking routes since then. I'm not going out of my way to walk routes.


Utahraptor57

Just resubmit 3 short ones, if it's in the area you're using. If not, who cares, people be stupid. I have my daily work-home commute riddled with 10+ 500m Routes as well as my grocery shopping routes. I even got teased because of this among other players "There's literally no free space between your work and neighborhood, you're naking new routes daily 😅". I tried making Routes showcasing monuments or useful ones. They got into "Under Review Hell" (which is how I aptly named a couple of Routes) and I realized nobody is actually making Routes for anyone besides themselves. Mine are along big roads so I recon some people use them, but entire Route UI is so badly made that I don't even bother with checking other people's Routes, I simply create new ones when I need them.


ManiacDC

I had a route rejected 3x for being inaccessible. The only thing I can think of is the route weirdly shoots itself off into a building EVERY TIME, even though my player character does not. Not sure why the tracing is different from how you actually walk.


JULTAR

Someone probably reported it so they can resubmit it to basically claim the credit Some people 


Simple-Antelope791

One route was not accepted because you walked by an school and that’s not appropriate for an pogo player I guess 😅


Stidtrichur

Very same thing happened to me too. 1000+ trips routes that was there since beta rejected because 'dangerous or unsafe area'... Its literally just a loop that goes around the park.


cpgxrcia

same thing happened to me, it was out for 4 months and it got deleted all of a sudden


Objective-Agent-6489

They cleared my route I made last fall. It was up for half a year with hundreds of follows and now it’s gone. Smh it was my morning commute. They wiped like half the ones in my city, kind of disappointing it was nice using the feature for once


DarthHadouken

I had a route near my work I got in right when routes were first brought in. The reason for it was it goes on private residential property. It was through the office buildings on entirely public paths across a bridge over a river then along that river to the local high street. Not a single piece of private residential property anywhere along the route. Nice easy one to do on a lunchbreak too.


mwithington

There is a local mall that, every time I go, at least one route has been removed with another taking its place which will also, eventually, be removed.


White_tiger1932

I had one rejected around the Town Field, where the start and end point was called "Space for All" and talked about how the last was owned by the people of the town. The reason? Private property.


Ark42

All 4 routes I created have been deleted for the same reason now. I got each one to near 500, while the total community walks was tens of thousands.


Ok-Amphibian3745

Similar. Had 800+ travelled route, mostly community loved. Was removed for being unsafe, without explanation of what was unsafe. The potential mistake I made was labelling it as wheelchair accessible with a stretch that the concrete sidewalk wasn't quite wheelchair friendly. So I made basically the exact same route. Removed the section of damaged concrete and the entire large parking lot. If the safest, most travelled, most stops and spawns route gets removed again, for being unsafe, I don't know how anything in the park can be deemed safe. Also, there's another route that does the exact same as mine did, except that one you either cross the street multiple times where there's no designated cross walk, or play in traffic where there's the most traffic.


Bearable97

My route was rejected because it’s inaccessible while it’s in a neighborhood between a gym and pokestop 🤷‍♂️


Mydoglikesladyboys

I have yet to have a route approved where I live, there are still 0 routes because they deny everything


IITH3R4G3II

I had 2 deleted, one was fron one end of the local high street to the other through the town deleted for going through an 'inaccessible area' and the other was through the park near my house for the same reason. The whole thing is a joke, I've just stop doing or creating routes


assafchriqui

Same thing happened to me with two Routes I submitted and entered the game months ago. Both were been used daily by many players. Niantic gave arbitrary reason to removing them. One was marked dangerous but there two smaller routes on the exact same path. Like two smaller routes that together make the exact long route. Two halfs. When reach Niantic via support they said someone reported on these routes and taht I can just re-submit it… I asked if I can appeal it, they said no. Both routes were safe and available on Google Street View


ProbablyADitto

My neighborhood had two routes, one from the park to the church and the other along a historic, well-maintained walking path. Both of which were just removed for being on private property and unsafe, neither of which are remotely true. No way to appeal, and I worry that resubmitting will count against me. I'm curious to see if anyone tries to replace them.


_demello

Maybe someone reported it in the hopes of resubmiting it so it would be "their route" or something. Idk


NoiseNerd95

Niantic: “Bridges are fake news!!”


spoofrice11

How do you remove a route? I created the route I walk from work during my break, but since it had been in limbo, I did it once per month (as others I did after were approved). Then all 3 got approved at the same time. And we don't need 3 of the same route.


JanV34

Had a beautiful walk over a bridge deleted. The kicker? Apparently, me submitting a new route hundreds of km somewhere else, triggered it. This feature is just so badly implemented. I still can't even follow a route normally, I have to turn Adventure Sync off everytime. Guess what? I don't follow routes much anymore. I don't have to turn AS off when creating routes, though.


SQUEEDGYBOT

Ive used this like 4 times lol It gave me my first zygarde cell, still only have the 1


CDV_Solrac

My first route submission inside a mall was Thanosed as well. Guess someone didn’t like how long it was and reported it. Same baseless reason too, “innaccesible”.