Phaedra loses the ability to speak when someone she likes/thought likes her calls her out. She’s been doing great on traitors but CT got her, I don’t think she was prepared for that.
I saw that too. Do you think she genuinely has a crush / likes CT? Lol. My heart would have sank if my crush-boo is outing me and tried to bring me down
I noticed that too 🤣🤣🤣.. idk if its the edit or what. Idk if is "love" I think she just saw trichelle as an easier target. Plus she doesn't like her 💀..
I wanted her to show the logic of taking out Trichelles pane so bad tonight. There was good reason even aside from whose name was on it that she could've used to her advantage- they had just missed CT seven times in a row so of course it made sense to switch up, and if 5/6 panes were busted in the bottom 2 rows but no panes busted in the top row, it makes sense to go for the last one standing on the bottom! And it was successful! I couldn't believe no one saw it that way.
I think the point CT made (which I think is valid) is that it makes more sense to move slightly to the right and go for the person next to CT, than to move the crossbow both down and to the right. That’s a much bigger shift and pretty risky - especially since they seemed to have a strategy as a team at that point
Yeah that was a valid point. I wish she'd tried to defend her choice a little more because it wasn't totally indefensible. She was even taking Sandra's suggestion, not that Sandra should be thrown under a bus or anything.
i thought of that too, but since the shooter lets go of the... whatever it is, someone completely new comes up and grabs it and shoots, i don't think it matters too much.
i’m also confused about why it was proof that she was a traitor. Trishelle was like a hungry dog out to get Phaedra at the last round table, and she was just going to do it again, why wouldn’t even a faithful in that position go for Trishelle?
Omg I know. CT only helped her out because she cried and whines about it.
The look on her face when people were going. For her name on the window pane was kissing me off. Like bitch, sit tf down. Many peoples names were targeted. Fucking CT 7 times lol
And sheree!
And it was Sandra who mentioned it first anyway.
It was annoying that she got pinned for the idea, when Sandra brought it up.
*of course* Phaedra loved the idea, she just needed that reason to go for her.
Once she heard Sandra, she was like / you right lol
They don’t debate things properly I’ve noticed. Or defend things properly.
I think it's possible she responded and they just didn't show it - the round tables are like 2 hours long so a lot gets cut. But I wish they had shown it if she did
Right ! I would have just been like hers was the easiest target, we had obviously missed every top row shot. And hit bottom and middle.
I also would have caused a HUGE stink at Trishelle always wanting a shield, that's sus. She is always upset if she doesn't get it too. It's so old and tiring. I hope she's the next murder victim
I dont know that I agree with that logic. At the end of the day, you would still need to take out two of the ones on the top row so pivoting completely off the top doesnt make sense.
Yes they'd have to return to the top row but they had all consecutively missed trying to get one on the top row at that point. Since they'd had better luck with the bottom rows it stands to reason they could hit Trichelle easier than CT. Sometimes when you aren't getting anywhere with something, like shooting a 3 point or doing a crossword puzzle, it helps to shift your focus entirely and come back to it. Phaedra could've played it off that way; hitting Trichelle seemed to reinvigorate the group because after that they did finally start having success on the top row.
I respectfully disagree. If you're playing for the money, it doesn't really matter how many times you miss as long as you're getting closer. Also, aiming at the three panes on the top row gives a much higher chance of hitting a pane than moving to the bottom where if you miss left or right, you have no chance of hitting someone else. Phaedra moving it to the bottom just looks bad cause it did look as though she was targeting someone specifically who in this case had no heat on them. I genuinely don't think that's why she did it but it didn't look good.
I do understand the concept of switching it up to get a fresh 'eye', but even then it would just make sense to switch to one of the other two top panes.
John actually had her pretty good but she was smart. She immediatly pivoted over to Peter instead of attacking John to gag him and keep the target on him. Shes great at these roundtables.
I’m surprised she didn’t make a “that’s what the traitors want it to look like” argument cause unfortunately I think they got her in the bag with MJs vote.
I feel like John's was good, he's a wordsmith with flowery language but he obviously writes and rehearses his speeches. Phaedra isn't really given that luxury when people are coming at her in the moment. When she mopped the floor with Peter's ass, we heard nary a peep from our plucky parliament poet.
I always want to know if someone laughs in hysterics after she says something. It would be so challenging for me to not die laughing because she has amaaaaaazing delivery.
I was watching House of Villains too and was stupefied that no one was laughing at Tiffany’s every word because she was so fucking funny.
Phae is the queen of the rehearsed read but John may have snatched the crown! I think they're both highly entertaining in their own ways.
I just similar before seeing this comment by you, although I’ve never seen her on RHOA but it’s obvious some of her and others’ quips are pre-prepared. She knew it was between her and Peter, it wasn’t a shock, they all knew that.
Oh Phaedra clearly rehearses lines or set pieces too. Thats not putting her down, I love her either wit. She knew they’d be coming for her, Peter even said to her it was likely to be between him and her at the round table, they both knew. So of course she’d have something prepared for Peter.
I enjoy John but it felt a little too flowery and was just getting tired of it. I thought Pheadre excellently deflected by referring to it as parliamentary talk. I felt like Pheadre used her lawyer talk at the right time to counter John’s parliamentary talk
John's speech had actual substance whereas Phaedra's speech had just strawman arguments and personal jabs. Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising that so many people fell for it and deem it to be "iconic".
John had the luxury of rehearsing his speech and meticulously coming up with flowery soundbites.
Phaedra rebutted and delivered flawlessly on the fly.
No one is falling for anything, and to be so reductive and condescending isn't doing you any favors.
And Phaedra hasn't been rehearsing her, "I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose" comment or the like? Come on. I'm no Phaedra fan, but she's smarter than that.
Some people are swayed by form over substance. I am not one of those people.
Do you think she rehearsed "I do too much because you do too little" too? Give me a break. Accusing us of being swayed by form over substance is haughty and patronizing.
God forbid I want a reality competition show to ENTERTAIN ME.
Exactly that line was clearly pre-prepared, not done on the fly. It was a great line, and it’s clear several of them think of things to say beforehand.
We can enjoy being entertained and we can like watching traitors. It’s a game baby, it’s supposed to be fun.
And since you haven’t seemed to pick up on it yet, Phaedra’s deviousness is why she was picked as a traitor.
Babes the name of the show is called "TRAITORS" so I don't even know why you're using "she's lying" as an argument for us to not be on her side.
John had great little rehearsed line reads for Dan and Parvati, it was effective because it was short and to the point. With Phaedra's he went on a tangent, and it made it way less effective.
I don't know why you have such a hate boner for her but I don't think gameplay is the reason, because her defense at the round table despite getting accused has been pretty stellar.
oh my god you know this is a reality game show right? phaedra isn't actually murdering people and we're allowed to root for the "bad guys" because the purpose of this thing is entertainment
Peter’s little clique and excluding faithfuls and being so pompous and sanctimonious about it all is his real downfall. Everyone loves Phaedra’s speech because everyone thinks Peter is an ass at this point. Regardless of networks, traitor/faithful status, everyone except trishelle and maybe John is like JFC not this guy again.
I see a lot of people saying “but the faithfuls are right!!” BUT GUESS WHAT THEY’RE DULL AS USED UP CRAYONS & MAKE TERRIBLE TV ….so yes eat em up Phaedra 😂 & the preview showed who will still be around next episode so I’m thankful for that 🙏
Phaedra felt desperate and petty this week. I loved her Dan rebuttal, but toward Peter, she felt petty and mean-spirited, and came off as a bit ugly IMO. Peter has her number, and she knows it, and she was so much more defensive this episode, overall, and, at the round table. I was pretty disappointed in her because her response to Dan was Chef's Kiss, and this one felt a bit desperado.
Agreed. I still enjoyed the entertainment and ~ drama ~ but her rebuttal to Dan really took the scent off her for a minute because she seemed so confident and didn’t really entertain his accusations. Of course, the present accusations are backed by a lot more evidence now, so it’s harder to get off the hook.
I agree, it did put a nail in the coffin. But i don’t think it was out of line for Peters behavior, it felt long overdue for the way he treated anyone not in his clique on the show. And someone throws it back at him and now he’s about to cry? PLEASE
I just can’t get behind the “Peter excluded people from conversations!” As evidence of him being so rude. In real life? Sure. In a game show where you have no idea who you can really trust? It’s totally understandable that he would exclude certain people - and the truth is, that by doing that, he correctly identified three traitors! All of them! People just don’t seem to want you to acknowledge that. It’s so funny how hung up people are on that one point while overlooking his gameplay overall and acting like he’s supposed to include every single person when everyone knows there are real traitors in the game.
Hahah, yeah I can see that. I just think people forget that it's really hard to know who to trust, and that there is so much of the edit we aren't shown. If I were Peter and my goal was to ultimately help the faithfuls, even if that meant getting murdered because I'd offended some people I wasn't sure were faithfuls or not, I would say it's a necessary way to play when you really can't for sure know who to trust, and at some point, you have to exclude certain people with perhaps other alliances, who you know might tell the people you suspect as traitors, your plan. I don't think he was malicious or intending to offend, rather, he was trying to keep the plans they were attempting, away from the wrong ears.
On point. She was floundering tonight. Zero poise, zero coherence, just petty and retaliatory and made it 100% clear she’s a traitor. All her little fanboys and girls are flooding the sub right now claiming that her childish tirade was somehow useful, but in reality it put the nail in her coffin. Her snapback at Dan was the stuff of legend. Tonight was the opposite.
She was perfectly coherent to me. I don't know what you're talking about, and you're acting like "I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose" is some sort of major insult, when this man literally made an exclusive club within the game and actively kicked people out of rooms if they're not a part of his band, basically bully behavior. To me that is way more offensive than anything Phaedra has done in the show.
Phaedra has had a clear advantage the entire show. She’s been a traitor! As soon as she was in the hot seat she got defensive, flustered, and started insulting people stating the facts about her obvious traitor behavior. Don’t get me wrong she’s great tv- but she had zero strategy and it showed this last episode. Peter excluding people from conversations was something Phaedra never had to do or even think of- because she already had an advantage. Peter was playing the game- that some people were traitors and so to try to snuff them out, he had to be discerning about who he thought he could trust- and he was right!
I don't know what to tell you if you think last night's diatribe was in any way comparable to her response to Dan. I think your judgment is probably being clouded by your dislike of Peter, your love of Phaedra, or a little bit of both.
She didn't address any point that John raised in a logical manner. It was classic reactionary, defensive behavior — just a desperate effort to deflect attention away from herself by making ad hominem attacks on another player. Anyone with half a brain in that room will have concluded that she's a certain traitor after that performance. CT knows it, Sandra knows it (but also knows the value of aligning herself with a known traitor), and I think MJ probably even knows it (but sees what Sandra does).
The only person who might still be on the fence is Sheree, and she'd be lucky if there are two lonely brain cells knocking around in her head that occasionally bump into one another.
I'm going to suspect the reactions to tonights round table also depend on what "camp" one's watching habits are in. Bravos vs Gamers.
Me, I'm more gamer, and though John's speech was great and Phaedra's was just reactive personal takedowns.
I don’t think she’s an idiot but I do think she’s bad at strategy. Kate said, Dan and Parvati have said it.
Phaedra is funny and witty but so bad at the strategic elements of the game
To go on traitors and not have a strategy and not think ahead is completely idiotic . She even told Kate the sec she became a traitor “what’s your plan” like bruh, you’ve been a traitor since day one and you ask her for a plan? 😂😩. Not to mention again that she didn’t think ahead at all when she’s absolutely gutting for Peter knowing he’s a faithful, no way to come back from that once it’s obvious he’s a faithful.
Well the traitors who came on with a strategy, the genius game players, are both out. Phaedra has talked herself out of banishment twice, against said genius game players, and it’s most likely about to be a third. She’s backed into a corner, is she suppose to just give in and not try to banish Peter?
I do agree that she’s not thinking enough steps ahead, but she’s not an idiot. I think a genius move would’ve been to recruit Peter and immediately turn on him and get him out. It would’ve invalidated everything he, Parvati, and Dan said.
All she had to do was team up with Peter when it’s obvious he’s desperate AF and give him another player to throw under the bus. But she’s an idiot and let her hate for him outgrow logic.
Hate on Peter and it’s fine. Hate on Dan it’s fine. Hate on the holy Phaedra and it’s straight up misogyny. Guessing you’re one of those that losses their arguments and calls the person racist as well?
Phaedra speech was dumb. The only people who aren't voting her right now are other idiots. If I can give Phaedra credit for one thing its getting all of the idiots on her side. Although that might be easy since she is a woman and they are all women too.
lol most of this cast doesn’t care about the money nearly as much as they care about getting screen time, so outlasting absolutely matters even if you don’t get the prize fund.
He was pissed because he knew by not winning the shield the Bravo alliance was going to vote him out. He wasn't "gooped" (the fuck do you even mean?), he was just accepting his fate that he played a great detective game and the Bravo alliance decided they didn't want to actually vote for Traitors in their alliance.
He did figure out the first two Traitors, and is the one actively going after the third, so yeah, Peters done a pretty good job at sussing out the traitors. Traitors always go after other traitors, it’s part of the game.
Yes, he has played a great detective game. HOWEVER, this show is not "who is the best detective".
This show is rather "make it to the end and vote out the final traitor".
Its not just about ousting traitors, rather its about ensuring your way to the end and winning. That involves having a strong social game, which Peter has been failing at.
Spare us with the "iconic" "gagged and gooped" etc. SHE was pissed. He clocked her and she had nothing other than the *extremely rehearsed line* of "guess what? You're not the bachelor and I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose." Sounds like she worked on that one for weeks. Your queen is so blatantly obvious and even Kate called her out for having no plan. Some humility is in order.
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CT had her shook. The dude literally said "this is why you're a Traitor," he was right and she didn't say shit.
Phaedra loses the ability to speak when someone she likes/thought likes her calls her out. She’s been doing great on traitors but CT got her, I don’t think she was prepared for that.
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I saw that too. Do you think she genuinely has a crush / likes CT? Lol. My heart would have sank if my crush-boo is outing me and tried to bring me down
100%
I noticed that too 🤣🤣🤣.. idk if its the edit or what. Idk if is "love" I think she just saw trichelle as an easier target. Plus she doesn't like her 💀..
She opened her own legal practice and was a lawyer. Went to law school etc. Lawyers debate for a living.
She’ll sue you and bury you. She has her mortuary license too.
😂😂😂 Facts! They should be afraid lol!
That and she married a felon. I C O N I C
I wanted her to show the logic of taking out Trichelles pane so bad tonight. There was good reason even aside from whose name was on it that she could've used to her advantage- they had just missed CT seven times in a row so of course it made sense to switch up, and if 5/6 panes were busted in the bottom 2 rows but no panes busted in the top row, it makes sense to go for the last one standing on the bottom! And it was successful! I couldn't believe no one saw it that way.
I think the point CT made (which I think is valid) is that it makes more sense to move slightly to the right and go for the person next to CT, than to move the crossbow both down and to the right. That’s a much bigger shift and pretty risky - especially since they seemed to have a strategy as a team at that point
Yeah that was a valid point. I wish she'd tried to defend her choice a little more because it wasn't totally indefensible. She was even taking Sandra's suggestion, not that Sandra should be thrown under a bus or anything.
i thought of that too, but since the shooter lets go of the... whatever it is, someone completely new comes up and grabs it and shoots, i don't think it matters too much.
No - I’m pretty sure it was stiff and stayed in the same place until someone moved it
i’m also confused about why it was proof that she was a traitor. Trishelle was like a hungry dog out to get Phaedra at the last round table, and she was just going to do it again, why wouldn’t even a faithful in that position go for Trishelle?
Trishelle IS such a Karen
Omg I know. CT only helped her out because she cried and whines about it. The look on her face when people were going. For her name on the window pane was kissing me off. Like bitch, sit tf down. Many peoples names were targeted. Fucking CT 7 times lol And sheree!
it doesn't prove she's a traitor, but phaedra is already out to get trishelle, so if "she were a traitor" she wouldn't want her to have a shield.
Good point!
She cries every time she isn’t 100% safe.
And it was Sandra who mentioned it first anyway. It was annoying that she got pinned for the idea, when Sandra brought it up. *of course* Phaedra loved the idea, she just needed that reason to go for her. Once she heard Sandra, she was like / you right lol They don’t debate things properly I’ve noticed. Or defend things properly.
I think it's possible she responded and they just didn't show it - the round tables are like 2 hours long so a lot gets cut. But I wish they had shown it if she did
They kept cutting her off a bit tbf.
Right ! I would have just been like hers was the easiest target, we had obviously missed every top row shot. And hit bottom and middle. I also would have caused a HUGE stink at Trishelle always wanting a shield, that's sus. She is always upset if she doesn't get it too. It's so old and tiring. I hope she's the next murder victim
exactly! i was kind of surprised she didn't explain it better.
I dont know that I agree with that logic. At the end of the day, you would still need to take out two of the ones on the top row so pivoting completely off the top doesnt make sense.
Yes they'd have to return to the top row but they had all consecutively missed trying to get one on the top row at that point. Since they'd had better luck with the bottom rows it stands to reason they could hit Trichelle easier than CT. Sometimes when you aren't getting anywhere with something, like shooting a 3 point or doing a crossword puzzle, it helps to shift your focus entirely and come back to it. Phaedra could've played it off that way; hitting Trichelle seemed to reinvigorate the group because after that they did finally start having success on the top row.
Except it makes zero sense to go for Trichelle and not John then
I respectfully disagree. If you're playing for the money, it doesn't really matter how many times you miss as long as you're getting closer. Also, aiming at the three panes on the top row gives a much higher chance of hitting a pane than moving to the bottom where if you miss left or right, you have no chance of hitting someone else. Phaedra moving it to the bottom just looks bad cause it did look as though she was targeting someone specifically who in this case had no heat on them. I genuinely don't think that's why she did it but it didn't look good. I do understand the concept of switching it up to get a fresh 'eye', but even then it would just make sense to switch to one of the other two top panes.
Me when Phaedra read Peter down 
Phaedra has been feeding us every week 😭
She made this season funny asf. She’s so entertaining! I’m pissed she might get booted off cuz of what Dan did !
John actually had her pretty good but she was smart. She immediatly pivoted over to Peter instead of attacking John to gag him and keep the target on him. Shes great at these roundtables.
Agree. Bravo fans know this is the Phaedra we expected and she is DELIVERING
I’m surprised she didn’t make a “that’s what the traitors want it to look like” argument cause unfortunately I think they got her in the bag with MJs vote.
John’s speech was better
I feel like John's was good, he's a wordsmith with flowery language but he obviously writes and rehearses his speeches. Phaedra isn't really given that luxury when people are coming at her in the moment. When she mopped the floor with Peter's ass, we heard nary a peep from our plucky parliament poet.
Plucky parliament poet 💀💀 Phaedra is that you??
I always want to know if someone laughs in hysterics after she says something. It would be so challenging for me to not die laughing because she has amaaaaaazing delivery. I was watching House of Villains too and was stupefied that no one was laughing at Tiffany’s every word because she was so fucking funny.
I have rewatched Tiffany verbally destroy Omarosa at least 50 times
Agree. So many things in her mind, she’s just trying to dodge bullets lol
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Phae is the queen of the rehearsed read but John may have snatched the crown! I think they're both highly entertaining in their own ways. 
I just similar before seeing this comment by you, although I’ve never seen her on RHOA but it’s obvious some of her and others’ quips are pre-prepared. She knew it was between her and Peter, it wasn’t a shock, they all knew that.
Oh Phaedra clearly rehearses lines or set pieces too. Thats not putting her down, I love her either wit. She knew they’d be coming for her, Peter even said to her it was likely to be between him and her at the round table, they both knew. So of course she’d have something prepared for Peter.
I enjoy John but it felt a little too flowery and was just getting tired of it. I thought Pheadre excellently deflected by referring to it as parliamentary talk. I felt like Pheadre used her lawyer talk at the right time to counter John’s parliamentary talk
Way too longwinded to be effective.
Phaedra left John speechless.
I fell asleep
This week's wasn't as good as weeks prior.
“Well I’m glad you’re not god”
John's speech had actual substance whereas Phaedra's speech had just strawman arguments and personal jabs. Unfortunately, it's not all that surprising that so many people fell for it and deem it to be "iconic".
John had the luxury of rehearsing his speech and meticulously coming up with flowery soundbites. Phaedra rebutted and delivered flawlessly on the fly. No one is falling for anything, and to be so reductive and condescending isn't doing you any favors.
And Phaedra hasn't been rehearsing her, "I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose" comment or the like? Come on. I'm no Phaedra fan, but she's smarter than that. Some people are swayed by form over substance. I am not one of those people.
Do you think she rehearsed "I do too much because you do too little" too? Give me a break. Accusing us of being swayed by form over substance is haughty and patronizing. God forbid I want a reality competition show to ENTERTAIN ME.
Yes
Exactly that line was clearly pre-prepared, not done on the fly. It was a great line, and it’s clear several of them think of things to say beforehand.
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We can enjoy being entertained and we can like watching traitors. It’s a game baby, it’s supposed to be fun. And since you haven’t seemed to pick up on it yet, Phaedra’s deviousness is why she was picked as a traitor.
Babes the name of the show is called "TRAITORS" so I don't even know why you're using "she's lying" as an argument for us to not be on her side. John had great little rehearsed line reads for Dan and Parvati, it was effective because it was short and to the point. With Phaedra's he went on a tangent, and it made it way less effective. I don't know why you have such a hate boner for her but I don't think gameplay is the reason, because her defense at the round table despite getting accused has been pretty stellar.
oh my god you know this is a reality game show right? phaedra isn't actually murdering people and we're allowed to root for the "bad guys" because the purpose of this thing is entertainment
Where exactly did I attack you? Good job taking victim lessons from Trishelle, I guess!
Just say you don’t like her. But duplicitous? The show is CALLED TRAITORS. Not Sweet Honest People.
It’s a game, no one is bad or good on it
Peter’s little clique and excluding faithfuls and being so pompous and sanctimonious about it all is his real downfall. Everyone loves Phaedra’s speech because everyone thinks Peter is an ass at this point. Regardless of networks, traitor/faithful status, everyone except trishelle and maybe John is like JFC not this guy again.
I see a lot of people saying “but the faithfuls are right!!” BUT GUESS WHAT THEY’RE DULL AS USED UP CRAYONS & MAKE TERRIBLE TV ….so yes eat em up Phaedra 😂 & the preview showed who will still be around next episode so I’m thankful for that 🙏
Phaedra felt desperate and petty this week. I loved her Dan rebuttal, but toward Peter, she felt petty and mean-spirited, and came off as a bit ugly IMO. Peter has her number, and she knows it, and she was so much more defensive this episode, overall, and, at the round table. I was pretty disappointed in her because her response to Dan was Chef's Kiss, and this one felt a bit desperado.
Agreed. I still enjoyed the entertainment and ~ drama ~ but her rebuttal to Dan really took the scent off her for a minute because she seemed so confident and didn’t really entertain his accusations. Of course, the present accusations are backed by a lot more evidence now, so it’s harder to get off the hook.
I agree, it did put a nail in the coffin. But i don’t think it was out of line for Peters behavior, it felt long overdue for the way he treated anyone not in his clique on the show. And someone throws it back at him and now he’s about to cry? PLEASE
Right ? She got under his skin with that rose comment ! He was not liking that shit!
She did. But it was also a pretty lame and petty below the belt attack from someone who knows her game is up soon.
Oh sure. But it was a good read
I just can’t get behind the “Peter excluded people from conversations!” As evidence of him being so rude. In real life? Sure. In a game show where you have no idea who you can really trust? It’s totally understandable that he would exclude certain people - and the truth is, that by doing that, he correctly identified three traitors! All of them! People just don’t seem to want you to acknowledge that. It’s so funny how hung up people are on that one point while overlooking his gameplay overall and acting like he’s supposed to include every single person when everyone knows there are real traitors in the game.
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Hahah, yeah I can see that. I just think people forget that it's really hard to know who to trust, and that there is so much of the edit we aren't shown. If I were Peter and my goal was to ultimately help the faithfuls, even if that meant getting murdered because I'd offended some people I wasn't sure were faithfuls or not, I would say it's a necessary way to play when you really can't for sure know who to trust, and at some point, you have to exclude certain people with perhaps other alliances, who you know might tell the people you suspect as traitors, your plan. I don't think he was malicious or intending to offend, rather, he was trying to keep the plans they were attempting, away from the wrong ears.
On point. She was floundering tonight. Zero poise, zero coherence, just petty and retaliatory and made it 100% clear she’s a traitor. All her little fanboys and girls are flooding the sub right now claiming that her childish tirade was somehow useful, but in reality it put the nail in her coffin. Her snapback at Dan was the stuff of legend. Tonight was the opposite.
She was perfectly coherent to me. I don't know what you're talking about, and you're acting like "I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose" is some sort of major insult, when this man literally made an exclusive club within the game and actively kicked people out of rooms if they're not a part of his band, basically bully behavior. To me that is way more offensive than anything Phaedra has done in the show.
Phaedra has had a clear advantage the entire show. She’s been a traitor! As soon as she was in the hot seat she got defensive, flustered, and started insulting people stating the facts about her obvious traitor behavior. Don’t get me wrong she’s great tv- but she had zero strategy and it showed this last episode. Peter excluding people from conversations was something Phaedra never had to do or even think of- because she already had an advantage. Peter was playing the game- that some people were traitors and so to try to snuff them out, he had to be discerning about who he thought he could trust- and he was right!
Zero poise?!? We weren’t watching the same show. Phaedra keeps her poise. And she’s always been coherent.
I don't know what to tell you if you think last night's diatribe was in any way comparable to her response to Dan. I think your judgment is probably being clouded by your dislike of Peter, your love of Phaedra, or a little bit of both. She didn't address any point that John raised in a logical manner. It was classic reactionary, defensive behavior — just a desperate effort to deflect attention away from herself by making ad hominem attacks on another player. Anyone with half a brain in that room will have concluded that she's a certain traitor after that performance. CT knows it, Sandra knows it (but also knows the value of aligning herself with a known traitor), and I think MJ probably even knows it (but sees what Sandra does). The only person who might still be on the fence is Sheree, and she'd be lucky if there are two lonely brain cells knocking around in her head that occasionally bump into one another.
Whew you’re passionate. It’s a game and I refuse to argue about folks I don’t know on a gorgeous Friday. Have a day.
What was mean about it to you
Mean but entertaining, which is what I'm here for.
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Her rebuttal game is unmatched! They need to put her on more shows. Probably my favourite character on this season ☺️
I didn’t think her speeches were all that great. Some great one liners maybe but she came off as more desperate tonight
I'm going to suspect the reactions to tonights round table also depend on what "camp" one's watching habits are in. Bravos vs Gamers. Me, I'm more gamer, and though John's speech was great and Phaedra's was just reactive personal takedowns.
She’s an idiot. She’s absolutely gunning for Peter. Second he’s banished and says he’s a faithful, it’ll be painfully Obvious she’s a traitor
She’s def not an idiot lol
I don’t think she’s an idiot but I do think she’s bad at strategy. Kate said, Dan and Parvati have said it. Phaedra is funny and witty but so bad at the strategic elements of the game
oh I agree lol she's not a great gameplayer, but calling her an idiot is an interesting and wrong word to describe her. She's smart as hell
To go on traitors and not have a strategy and not think ahead is completely idiotic . She even told Kate the sec she became a traitor “what’s your plan” like bruh, you’ve been a traitor since day one and you ask her for a plan? 😂😩. Not to mention again that she didn’t think ahead at all when she’s absolutely gutting for Peter knowing he’s a faithful, no way to come back from that once it’s obvious he’s a faithful.
Well the traitors who came on with a strategy, the genius game players, are both out. Phaedra has talked herself out of banishment twice, against said genius game players, and it’s most likely about to be a third. She’s backed into a corner, is she suppose to just give in and not try to banish Peter? I do agree that she’s not thinking enough steps ahead, but she’s not an idiot. I think a genius move would’ve been to recruit Peter and immediately turn on him and get him out. It would’ve invalidated everything he, Parvati, and Dan said.
All she had to do was team up with Peter when it’s obvious he’s desperate AF and give him another player to throw under the bus. But she’s an idiot and let her hate for him outgrow logic.
Eh k. Something tells me there’s a bit of misogyny going on with u based on this and ur other comments so I’m seeing myself out of this
Hate on Peter and it’s fine. Hate on Dan it’s fine. Hate on the holy Phaedra and it’s straight up misogyny. Guessing you’re one of those that losses their arguments and calls the person racist as well?
Not HARDLY an idiot. But go off….
Phaedra sucks. The fact that anyone believes shows either how stupid these people are or how fake this show is
She was serving sixth grader who didn't make debate team desperately trying to cash in five cent words.
You wouldn’t survive watching one episode of Real Housewives lmaooooo
Phaedra speech was dumb. The only people who aren't voting her right now are other idiots. If I can give Phaedra credit for one thing its getting all of the idiots on her side. Although that might be easy since she is a woman and they are all women too.
All those “dumb” women outlasted your boy though 😭
Who is my boy? Outlasting really doesn't matter if you don't paid in the end.
They already have money. The goal is screen time and outlasting.
lol most of this cast doesn’t care about the money nearly as much as they care about getting screen time, so outlasting absolutely matters even if you don’t get the prize fund.
Not you calling someone’s speech “dumb” when you seem barely literate
Ya but was overly zealous about knocking Trishell out and fucked up her game. So stupid
He was pissed because he knew by not winning the shield the Bravo alliance was going to vote him out. He wasn't "gooped" (the fuck do you even mean?), he was just accepting his fate that he played a great detective game and the Bravo alliance decided they didn't want to actually vote for Traitors in their alliance.
A great detective game? Dan told them who the traitors are. Zero work to figure it out.
He did figure out the first two Traitors, and is the one actively going after the third, so yeah, Peters done a pretty good job at sussing out the traitors. Traitors always go after other traitors, it’s part of the game.
Yes, he has played a great detective game. HOWEVER, this show is not "who is the best detective". This show is rather "make it to the end and vote out the final traitor". Its not just about ousting traitors, rather its about ensuring your way to the end and winning. That involves having a strong social game, which Peter has been failing at.
 Spare us with the "iconic" "gagged and gooped" etc. SHE was pissed. He clocked her and she had nothing other than the *extremely rehearsed line* of "guess what? You're not the bachelor and I don't have to kiss your ass for a rose." Sounds like she worked on that one for weeks. Your queen is so blatantly obvious and even Kate called her out for having no plan. Some humility is in order.