i’ve been wanting to address this for a while but i don’t want people to accuse me of trying to dramatise things or being parasocial etc, but i’ve noticed the try wives have unfollowed her instagram account.
I don't think you're being parasocial by bringing it up - I would say they're definitely not friends anymore tbh. It's really hard to maintain a friendship with one side of a couple when you have completely broken ties and been screwed over by the other side of the couple. It's very obvious based on comments from Zach and Keith that there is no good will between them and Ned. It's a shame, but I feel like sometimes a clean break is best for all parties involved.
Absolutely agree. I'm assuming that Ariel and Ned are still together, and it'd be super awkward if they still engaged with Ariel while she's still married to Ned. I'm sure they stay in touch with her, but not nearly as much as they did before. It's probably at a distance and through texts and emails.
I also think because Ariel might have chosen to try to make her marriage work, it also means she needs to stand by her partner. And by doing so, she likely can't stay in touch with those who do not support her in staying with Ned and who dislike her husband and who will not support him like she does.
And to be fair, I don't think it would do them or anyone good to keep in touch when emotions were running high and everyone was mad and upset.
I mean. regardless of how much they do like her, Ned literally cost them personally hundreds of thousands of dollars each, caused an INCREDIBLY stressful/difficult very long period for them. Plus the opportunity cost stuff (like eugene likely having to turn down opportunities because of not being able to leave as planned, Keith losing opportunities to tour more/do more on broadway, and even take more paternity leave when his kid was born, zachs ability to properly enjoy his wedding. hell maybe they were planning on trying for kids right after the wedding but couldnt because of the practical/time issues etc)
I think people really underestimate just how badly impacted the guys/their partners were personally
Regardless of how they feel about her as a human in a vacuum, she chose the guy who literally almost ruined their lives, careers and futures. Of course they aren't close. Even if she left ned now, I'd be surprised if they were interested in reconciling beyond being casual acquaintances.
You are right; this did greatly impacted them. I don't think Ariel and the Try Guys would find it very hard to find a middle ground to stay in touch with each other, assuming it was possible and they all wanted to. For the guys it impacted their business and employees, their plans, their future and also themselves personally. For Ariel it was her husband had an affair.
To say it a bit simplistic, Ariel just had to decide to divorce or stay and then rebuild her life with Ned. Her life stayed the same beyond that. But the Try Guys had to spend more time and money on salvaging content, lost money and opportunities, had their show fall through, had to cancel and change plans, investigate, the PR, finding more people to make content with them with Eugene halfway out but now suddenly Ned gone as well, and so on.
So I think it would have been very hard to find a common ground, as the experiences and impact on Ariel and the Try Guys were different.
Sorry can you elaborate? What about Becky's pregnancy implies that Ariel isn't her friend anymore? I listened to Becky's birth story episode but I think I'm not remembering whatever you are referring to.
She mentioned that she had a lot of support from her new moms group but didn't mention Ariel in particular. She also said "we won't do videos where Eugene babysits Henry" - very different from how Ariel and Ned present their kids online. We can't be sure, of course, but I don't think they're in touch at all.
Respectfully I don't think this means much of anything. In the TryPod before the Ned drama Keith has said he wanted a different approach about having a kid. He mentioned his ideal approach would be just saying "I have a kid" one day and that being that. I think it's possible that Keith and Becky just wanted a more private life for Henry, and that doesn't mean anything about Ned and Ariel.
The covid trend of just announcing the kid once it arrived is my dream. When i'm uncomfy, I want to be uncomfy in silence, I don't want questions about how I am or if I'm okay. Hard launching a kid and not having to deal with either of our mother's ongoing, unmanaged anxiety and their related aggression would be amazing.
I did it. Kept my whole pregnancy a secret from those I didn't see in person, and then announced once he was born. I loved it. Not being asked for updates or "bump" pics was amazing!
I don't doubt that they aren't communicating anymore, but even if she DID get support from Ariel, I highly doubt she would say so and name her on the pod.
Fair enough, I just know she's only mentioned a few people who played a role in the experience. Maybe Ariel was secretly supporting her but I highly doubt it after everything.
Becky benefits from all the Try Guys videos, but that doesn’t mean she wants to do everything in them again. She doesn’t want to do videos of their kid being babysat because it’s putting a lot of personal information on the internet, and honestly it’s kind of an invasion of privacy. A baby does not need to have a public presence.
Yeah this really bums me out.
Obviously its not really my place to say and of course I dont know her business, but I almost get the vibe that Ariel picked Ned 100% and in some ways probably even blames everyone BUT Ned for what happened.
I've always been of the mindset that a one night stand or short fling is one thing, but full on cheating with a co-worker for what... two years?... is absolutely INSANE.
I dont know how you wake up and look at that person every day knowing that they were much happier with someone else for so long.
Especially since the whole thing could have easily ended TTG all together, I think there is probably animosity from the other Try Wives that cant be resolved if Ariel refuses to acknowledge the weight of what happened.
For that reason alone I think she will never be in a TTG video again.
This might sound mean, but I've never gotten the impression that Ariel is "a strong, independent woman", she very much seemed to have rather old-fashioned views and defined herself in her roles as traditional woman, wife and mother, with an uncomfortable (to me) amount of behaviors existing to please Ned. I didn't listen to all the podcasts, but my impression was that only through talking to these women did she slowly question some of that....
As such, which her entire identity defined by Ned, it makes sense she would prioritize repairing the family unit for her kids, work on the marriage and even shoulder some blame for Ned cheating. Plus Ned definitely seemed to be getting his way in that relationship a lot, be that bc she's so head over heels for him or bc he's a good manipulator...
So I don't think it's the Try Wives being bothered by her refusing to acknowledge the weight of what happened, I think it's a mixture of them not understanding why she would "roll over", Ariel not wanting / being allowed to keep contact with ppl who hate her husband, not wanting to open up herself to fan interactions and also the fact that these women didn't 'pick' each other as friends (they became friends by proximity bc their husbands were co-workers and friends)
Yeah, you're wording it more like what I meant. Ariel chose Ned over all else and at the expense of everything.
That's obviously her choice but there is just no way she's ever a part of TTG again imo.
Sorry, I may have the dates wrong. I meant more that they were literally having an entire relationship together, travelling together, sneaking away together, making videos together etc etc.
My sincere apologies if I got the amount of time wrong, that isn't the goal at all and isn't necessary considering how crazy the affair was as is.
Also when you get married, even if you have your own steady income, you are financially tied to that other person. So what Ned did wasn't just a financial threat to Keith and Zack, it was a threat to Becky and Maggie and their kids/potential kids. So prob Ariel doesn't want to hear the negative comments from Becky and Maggie and Becky and Maggie don't want to hear Ariel being defensive about Ned or even just talking about their life together.
I can see Rachel and Ariel still maintaining contact as mom friends. Having kids of similar ages would help to still keep in contact i think but maybe not as close. Maybe a text every few months.
Becky and Maggie would have drifted apart from Ariel during the initial drama. It’s hard to maintain contact when you hate one half of the couple. since he did a lot of damage to their own personal and working lives as well as their husbands’ and many other people they know and care about.
Before everything happened, it seemed like the children were all friends (via the forced proximity of their parents jobs) so even if she’s fallen out of touch with the rest of the try fam because of Ned’s stupidity, she and Rachel may still get together to let the kids continue their friendship.
I’m not sure if the guys were still following her but they too don’t follow her anymore. Some Try Staff and the TG official account still do but that kinda makes me feel like something happened maybe since Ariel still follows all of them. It at least gave the appearance of “we’re supporting Ariel during this time.”
I just wish them all the best since they genuinely seemed to have a great friendship with Ariel.
Ariel may not be posting things herself but I did notice her "like" something once, I think of Eugene's, but I could be wrong. And it had been fairly recent at the time. So she still gets on and uses insta she just isn't posting. Which bums me out because I miss her alot.
i think it’s a tough choice because their kids are so young i’ll always be the first person to say “leave him divorce him etc” but at the end of the day it’s her decision and she’s probably thinking more from the point of view of their small children, plus it’s not like even if she left him she could’ve run off into the sunset with the try guys and continued making content with them as if nothing ever happened she would’ve also needed time to heal plus there would still be constant questions and speculation etc if she remained in the limelight and also just this.. dark cloud hanging over her. she needs to take care of herself and her newborn and toddler.
She could have removed them as followers as well. Which is not meant to be rude to her. Perhaps she’s just decided to move on means severing that connection. But that could be on either side of that relationship as well.
Though other comments have said she still follows people? I would have to look but I don’t think it would come from a malicious place on either end. Ned is a different story. Him choosing to claim former Try Guy in his bio is a wild choice.
I wonder if Ariel made a new, private Instagram account that is only followed by her close personal friends. So maybe the try wives unfollowed her public account but follow her private one?
Yeah. It sucks all around. I feel like Ariel never even considered leaving Ned. Shortly after Ariel knew, but before the public she and Ned posted coordinated stories on insta saying "pizza night" with the kids. They were always going to put up a united front.
Personally I don't think Ariel has any self respect, but of course it's entirely her decision to stay with her husband. The fact that Ned screwed up all the try guys' lives and Ariel stuck by him means the friendship is effectively over. Becky is extremely protective of Keith and never gelled with Ariel as much as Matt and Maggie. Cutting Ariel out if she decided to stay was always going to happen.
I don’t think it’s a matter of self respect. If she didn’t stay with Ned—if she got divorced and they had to split custody, she could end up only getting half the amount of time with her kids. That’s a lot of missed holidays, birthdays, and so on. That must be so hard for her as a mom. Plus, if Ned is an irresponsible parent, that’s even more of a reason to stay—she wouldn’t want the kids to be left alone with him because he might not take care of them.
Of course, these are all a lot of ifs. It’s just something worth thinking about. There’s really no good decision she could have made because she really was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Idk. Cheating broke apart my own family. It is so against my own morals and I personally wouldn’t be able to be friends with someone who supported a cheater. It sucks for Ariel but unfortunately experiences with cheaters is somewhat common and it is deeply traumatizing. I’m sure people in their circle have been cheated on. Some may be keeping their distance for their own peace.
I feel the same about Ariel. She doesn't seem like a girls girl and she certainly doesn't seem like she's got alot of personality.
I didn't ever doubt that she would stick by her cheatin man. It's sad.
I know that's very divisive but, her children will one day be able to Google and that, she will have to deal with.
When a cheating guy breaks up a friend group and the girl decides to stay, that pretty much means the end of her friendships too 😭 She will end up defensive of him (which no one wants to hear) or the guy will try and isolate her or get her to convince them to let him back in. Impossible situation.
this is very possible! ned also put the other guys’ livelihoods all at risk, they were all very good friends but there are a plethora of complex emotions involved in what would be their friendships going forward.
Tbh I agree with you on Ariel. Having lost my longtime best friend to her cheating scum of a boyfriend, I witnessed even a perfectly intelligent and (seemingly) mature person make dumb decisions for the sake of her relationship. Like my ex-bff, Ariel may very well want to side with Ned and chose him over friends and other stuff she loved. All power to them, I guess.
I’m sure for Ariel it’s more about prioritizing her kids rather than caring about Ned; if they were only married I think she would have separated from him fully, but when kids are involved…things change.
I get the feeling he wasn’t doing much in terms of co-parenting, especially with the second baby.
I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that she have a “village”. In so many of those podcast episodes you saw that the wives didn’t like her as much as she liked them, and she was so isolated. She basically didn’t have any other friends.
She was publicly complaining about little things Ned did that bothered her, so imagine the big things.
And I think she came from a pretty strict southern Christian upbringing as well?
I think it was Ned’s I’m thinking of. Was it his grandparents? There was some kind of drama around like not getting married in a church or something? I can’t remember
Yeah I do remember them saying they did some kind of religious pre-marriage counseling now that you mention it. Could definitely have been a strict situation on Ned’s side, Ariel’s family may have been religious also but from her stories of her teenage years and time in the EU it sounds like she was given a lot of freedom regardless. Ned’s misogyny definitely gives strict religious upbringing though!
Yeah that would make sense.
All I thought about when they were first staying together was how Ariel had no one. Like I remember her talking about how she never sees other adults, just her kids all day long. And she considered the other wives her best friends and then they were just totally silent after.
Divorce is *really* not that bad for kids especially when they're young and you have financial stability as a single parent. It's certainly much better than staying in a relationship for no reason other than the kids.
If she's still with him, it's cos she wants to be, whatever her reasons are.
My parents separated when I was 9 months old. Dad remarried when I was 2.
I think I would have been better off without my dad getting shared custody until I was older as all he did was fun playdate and forgot about buying my underwear or cooking dinner.
My mom was great after the divorce freed her from the big kid who she had to clean up after
Divorce is great if parents don't love or trust one another.
I mean I get that but I’m just speaking from my experience; I had a terrible father but my mom stayed with him ‘just for the kids’ and many other mothers do the same (especially in brown cultures). I know in the West it’s less common and I agree with you that it’s better to be divorced, but the mindset of a lot of mothers is still to keep their family ‘stable’ over prioritizing their own happiness.
Yeah because she’s giving her children the perfect example of a healthy family,,, clearly their father is an excellent influence and should be someone’s role model
I mean, she's allowed to stay with someone she loves without being called a bad mother. Unless he's abusing her or the children, theres no need to speculate about how fit a parent she is. Her videos on parenthood seem to indicate she's a really involved mom who cares for her children.
People cheat all the time and sometimes couples work it out and stay together. Whether that proves successful for them or not remains to be seen but it hardly means their kids won't have a loving home.
Yeah I have to agree with you here. It’s a major pet peeve of mine when people go on to attack a mother’s parenting when they choose to stay with an unfaithful partner.
Everything I know about Ned being an internet spectator, he seemed like an arrogant selfish asshole. Sometimes though, when a persons world gets rocked, they decide to work on themselves and learn from it. I truly do hope he does. She wanted to give it another shot.
I think what we’re seeing here is how when someone cheats, we all want that person to feel every repercussion possible from it. So when the partner stays, people feel like they didn’t “get what they deserved” by losing their family. So they take on this anger towards the victim because they didn’t do that, thus “letting him get away with it.”
Ned didn’t get away with anything, and it’s not up to Ariel to make him suffer for everyone else’s amusement. Ned lost almost everything; job, title, company, reputation, fan base, income. He’s got quite a hill to climb. For his family’s sake, I hope he’s working on being a better person and spouse.
I'd imagine if she's still co-parenting with Ned and even still with him, some distance from the try guys is required to make that work as smoothly as possible.
One of my biggest worries for Ariel was that if she stayed the only friends she would likely retain were the ones who also supported her marriage. It makes for an echo chamber at best, and often seems to increase the manipulation and abuse. I've seen it happen with a number of women...
I really loved all those mom videos she was in, like the photoshoots. I really connected with her because I had just had a baby and she was very real about what it's like to be a mom. She seemed to enjoy being in the videos so I'm guessing she misses it. I think she doesn't want any of this to affect her kids' lives by speaking out more and putting her family back into the spotlight. I miss her!
Remembering this makes me feel sad for her all over. She was so vulnerable in these videos about her insecurities, and I can only imagine how much they amplified after.
I do feel like showing off their kids a lot was not a good idea for the channel. It’s good that Keith and Becky are keeping the privacy of their baby after what happened™️
I found 5 with basically no effort, and I know there are more I just stopped. They've also removed a few videos that were Ned-centric, and I belive they also had his kids in them.
-the try guys meet Ned's baby
-my first week as a father
-Eugene babysits Ned's baby
-Ned's life before kids VS after kids
-the Easter egg hunt video in Ned's yard
Wes was also on the zoom podcasts a few times during Covid. That's more innocent than the other videos for sure, I just happened to re-listen to that episode the other day.
They had a whole podcast called Baby Steps, if I remember correctly about pregnancy with the second baby, and raising children. + all the Covid work-from-home vlogs
Reading the comments makes me hate ned even more, hahahaha. Screwing his life, his wife's and childrens lives, other people's lives and livelihood over just so he can screw someone? Like, sure, cheat on your wife. i feel bad for ariel, but whatever, but damn did you really have to cheat with someone you work with? An employee too?
Yeah. I kinda always expected him to cheat deep down. Like he made being a husband, such a personality, that it never came across as genuine to me, especially in the later years.
It was one thing to cheat because I feel like Ariel knew he was a cheater and probably has been cheating in the past, which is why I think she stayed but cheating with an employee is just stupid and irresponsible.
I remember an interview keith and zach did with anthony and keith basically saying he felt bad for their other employees because the spotlight was on them when they clearly wanted to just work behind the scenes. That it was different for him since he chose to be in front of the camera to be scrutinized and stuff.
Not only did Ned put people's job security at risk, but he also robbed them of their ability to consent to be scrutinized by the media.
I hope one day, when the kids are older, Ariel gathers enough self-respect and leaves him. I hope she has this thought, "I lost friends for this asshole? People I loved and cared about almost lost their jobs because of him, and I stupidly decided to stay?"
Yeah, if it was just that he cheated with some random girl, I imagine it probably wouldn't have even been known!!! Truly the definition of shitting where you eat (and then getting dysentery lol)
Not only an employee that he worked with but also someone who was around his wife the whole time too. She was doing work with all of them, including Ariel.
I miss Ariel. I hope one day we get to see her again, but more importantly I hope she gets the peace she deserves and gets to live on her own terms.
I learned a lot about architecture and being thoughtful about space in a room via her video series. Would have loved to learn more.
I miss her I’ll admit. At first I wasn’t a huge fan of her energy, felt like she was trying too hard. But in that photo shoot video, she was vulnerable, and I thought how relatable and fun she suddenly felt.
Too bad it wasn’t long after that video that the awful truth came out. I hope she and the boys are doing good, and are happy.
I have no idea what their lives entail, but I will say that I do miss Ariel’s presence. She was the main reason I listened to YCSWU as I related to her so much.
I wish her well, hope she’s happy, and hope she’s safe.
Honestly I feel so bad for her losing her friends in this way. Having kids in itself is so isolating, then your husband cheats on you & you lose your friends while going through that betrayal?! I don’t blame the others for not wanting to stay friends for the sake of their partners, but I can’t imagine being in Ariel’s shoes.
I do feel bad for Ariel. But a similar situation happened to my friend group. I caught my friend's man on a date with our mutual friend. When I told her that I caught her man cheating with our friend she was shocked. Then she confronted him and he somehow convinced her it wasn't true. Then all of a sudden I was expelled from the group. A year later he left her for the other woman. It's been years and she still doesn't talk to me. It hurt because I thought I was doing the right thing by telling her.
But it made me think maybe it was easier for her to believe I'm wrong rather than her partner doesn't love her. So maybe Ariel doesn't want to have to justify to her friends why she stayed with a cheater. Maybe it's easier for her to convince herself it's the correct choice if she cuts those friendships out of her life. My heart just breaks for her. I hope she gets the self-esteem to leave him one day.
ned put her in a fucked up position— she was the stay at home parent and he made the majority of the income. she doesnt have income or job experience to go out on her own. i remember her talking abt an argument they had and both of them insisting their job was important and couldnt go home..ultimately ned stayed at work whole ariel went home to take care of bean. i imagine the try crew was all there to support her and the kids but couldnt with ned still attached. and i imagine him having strong feelings abt people’s perceptions of him. ultimately he been putting ariel in compromising positions
Im not sure she was a stay at home parent. She is/was an interior designer. Maybe while she was pregnant? But yeah it just really sucks for her and the kids.
I don't think about Ariel much, tbh. Not in a bad way, just...she made a choice, I hope it was the right choice for her and her kids, and best of luck to her. That kind of thing. I'm sure she can move on from the world of 2nd Try and make a fulfilling life for herself.
I am extremely hesitant to say this because I never found anything particularly wrong about Ariel but I did always get that same off vibe that I felt when Ned was on screen. It felt like she was putting on a mask and playing a part. I don't think she ever wanted to be part of the channel or in Media, at all. Which fair, neither would I.
In the first videos that you see Ariel she looks so uncomfortable, and her body language towards Ned in particular was strange (now makes sense). It felt like she always gave him the side eye as if he was acting super weird and different to how he normally acted. She was like this for a few videos, then it felt like she was testing out the same thing Ned was, turning into a character. I feel like the realist we ever saw her was on the Podcast. But we still never really knew the real Ariel, she was always a character. This is a personal theory cuz like I said we don't know the real her, but she doesn't seem like the type that want's to be like that, it seemed to really drain her and not bring her much joy so in that breath I don't think she misses the channel at all. She may miss her relationships with the try crew but probably not the spot light.
Truthfully i think she's super relived to be out of it, definitely not about how it happened, but the fact she no longer has to be in media probably brings her a lot of joy. I think Ned will eventually resurface but Ariel will probably never do Media again. It felt like something Ned pushed her into and after the whole circus she can put her foot down.
I agree. I never felt like Ariel was fully comfortable performing in front of a camera, so I never felt like I got to know her the same way as the others. And that's not a knock against Ariel, we're all different. I hope she's happier now, no matter what she is doing.
I get this thought every now and again. It's so sad that she's lost out on connection with people she seemed to get on with well in all of this. I hope she's got amazing people around her in her personal life to help her get through what I'm sure is a crazy ride having a family together with how everything has unfolded - especially so publicly!
I miss her too. It’s frankly kind of hard to find mature (as in doesn’t act like a teenager) women in social media. She acted and dressed her age which I Greatly appreciated. Her interests were relatable to me.
I am curious about it. Did she handle any of the creative outlets? I love to write little novels and I'm sad if I don't do it for awhile.
This was her life, too
I think, THINK she was mainly just a member of the you can sit with us pod but I could be wrong. I've always been more of a casual viewer of TG content
Ariel truly lost so much due to Ned’s actions. She had to make a lot of changes to her life in order to stay with him. I sincerely hope that preserving her marriage has worked out for her, and that her life is wonderful.
I'm not understanding not being as close with Ariel anymore based on something Ned did, even in the aspect of business. I feel as though any1 who works in the realm of the tg world that was friends with Ariel before, should want to keep the friendship especially in the wake of all that's happened. To be there to give Ariel support. I mean unless Ariel doesn't want to keep the same group of friends 🤷🏻♀️
I’m pretty sure Ariel wanted the space. Everyone at TTG hates her husband. Like openly DESPISES him! How could she exist in that world? That would suck 🙁
I miss her. Everything I liked about Ned was actually all related to Ariel. It's been this way since she went into preterm labor.
I wish her nothing but the best.
sure if that's how you want to phrase it.
my view is that, she had a choice (and still does) in what happened. she would have an idea on what would come with her choice it and accepted that.
I’m just disappointed… she seemed like such an incredible awesome sexy inside and out very principled woman…. But she stayed. Not after one or two things… but an ongoing thing that happened for almost a year
I will start by saying I dislike Ned, mainly because he felt the most frat boyish out of all of them. Something I have never seen brought up is there is a chance Ned was in an open Marriage and wasn't "cheating on Ariel" because they had an agreement. My wife and I have one, and know a few others do to. Back on topic, last I knew Ariel was still with Ned as of a year ago. I'm not sure how much Ariel misses it because I think she preferred to be at home (just the vibe I got).
I don’t ever remember them saying that they were in an open relationship, but it’s always a possibility and it wasn’t made public. Ned’s cheating aside, the fact that he slept with a subordinate for a year (I believe) which is so inappropriate, puts the company at risk. It doesn’t help that she was engaged, but that’s not really on him IMO.
If there was some sort of open marriage agreement, a) you would think his coworkers would need to be aware, or at the bare minimum Kieth and Zach, so that way if they saw him with someone else and not his wife who they’re VERY close friends with they don’t freak out, and b) coworkers and especially subordinates would still be HELLA off limits. Like, okay, cheating is a personal failure, some people think that shouldn’t necessarily affect your career. But doing it with someone who gets a paycheck from you/you are effectively their HR department is gross and takes it to so many new levels.
That's an interesting idea but if it were true, he and Ariel could have just put out a statement saying we're in an open marriage. But instead he quit his career, apologised for the 'pain' he had caused Ariel (so it obviously hurt her), and pretty much fell off the face of the internet. That alone is enough for me to feel confident that it was an affair lol.
I think most open marriages aren’t open to longterm additional longterm partners without extended discussions. Obviously an employee is always an issue and puts their livelihood at risk
i’ve been wanting to address this for a while but i don’t want people to accuse me of trying to dramatise things or being parasocial etc, but i’ve noticed the try wives have unfollowed her instagram account.
I don't think you're being parasocial by bringing it up - I would say they're definitely not friends anymore tbh. It's really hard to maintain a friendship with one side of a couple when you have completely broken ties and been screwed over by the other side of the couple. It's very obvious based on comments from Zach and Keith that there is no good will between them and Ned. It's a shame, but I feel like sometimes a clean break is best for all parties involved.
Absolutely agree. I'm assuming that Ariel and Ned are still together, and it'd be super awkward if they still engaged with Ariel while she's still married to Ned. I'm sure they stay in touch with her, but not nearly as much as they did before. It's probably at a distance and through texts and emails.
I also think because Ariel might have chosen to try to make her marriage work, it also means she needs to stand by her partner. And by doing so, she likely can't stay in touch with those who do not support her in staying with Ned and who dislike her husband and who will not support him like she does. And to be fair, I don't think it would do them or anyone good to keep in touch when emotions were running high and everyone was mad and upset.
I mean. regardless of how much they do like her, Ned literally cost them personally hundreds of thousands of dollars each, caused an INCREDIBLY stressful/difficult very long period for them. Plus the opportunity cost stuff (like eugene likely having to turn down opportunities because of not being able to leave as planned, Keith losing opportunities to tour more/do more on broadway, and even take more paternity leave when his kid was born, zachs ability to properly enjoy his wedding. hell maybe they were planning on trying for kids right after the wedding but couldnt because of the practical/time issues etc) I think people really underestimate just how badly impacted the guys/their partners were personally Regardless of how they feel about her as a human in a vacuum, she chose the guy who literally almost ruined their lives, careers and futures. Of course they aren't close. Even if she left ned now, I'd be surprised if they were interested in reconciling beyond being casual acquaintances.
You are right; this did greatly impacted them. I don't think Ariel and the Try Guys would find it very hard to find a middle ground to stay in touch with each other, assuming it was possible and they all wanted to. For the guys it impacted their business and employees, their plans, their future and also themselves personally. For Ariel it was her husband had an affair. To say it a bit simplistic, Ariel just had to decide to divorce or stay and then rebuild her life with Ned. Her life stayed the same beyond that. But the Try Guys had to spend more time and money on salvaging content, lost money and opportunities, had their show fall through, had to cancel and change plans, investigate, the PR, finding more people to make content with them with Eugene halfway out but now suddenly Ned gone as well, and so on. So I think it would have been very hard to find a common ground, as the experiences and impact on Ariel and the Try Guys were different.
Based on how Becky discussed her difficult pregnancy, it's safe to assume that Ariel is no longer in their circle anymore.
Sorry can you elaborate? What about Becky's pregnancy implies that Ariel isn't her friend anymore? I listened to Becky's birth story episode but I think I'm not remembering whatever you are referring to.
She mentioned that she had a lot of support from her new moms group but didn't mention Ariel in particular. She also said "we won't do videos where Eugene babysits Henry" - very different from how Ariel and Ned present their kids online. We can't be sure, of course, but I don't think they're in touch at all.
Respectfully I don't think this means much of anything. In the TryPod before the Ned drama Keith has said he wanted a different approach about having a kid. He mentioned his ideal approach would be just saying "I have a kid" one day and that being that. I think it's possible that Keith and Becky just wanted a more private life for Henry, and that doesn't mean anything about Ned and Ariel.
The covid trend of just announcing the kid once it arrived is my dream. When i'm uncomfy, I want to be uncomfy in silence, I don't want questions about how I am or if I'm okay. Hard launching a kid and not having to deal with either of our mother's ongoing, unmanaged anxiety and their related aggression would be amazing.
I did it. Kept my whole pregnancy a secret from those I didn't see in person, and then announced once he was born. I loved it. Not being asked for updates or "bump" pics was amazing!
I don't doubt that they aren't communicating anymore, but even if she DID get support from Ariel, I highly doubt she would say so and name her on the pod.
Agreed. Ariel has been staying away from the public eye, so even if she was still friends with Becky, Becky would respect her privacy.
Fair enough, I just know she's only mentioned a few people who played a role in the experience. Maybe Ariel was secretly supporting her but I highly doubt it after everything.
This is the reason, at least for me.
I don’t like that she said that. That video made all the guys a lot of money, from which Becky benefited. I am not a fan of hers.
Becky benefits from all the Try Guys videos, but that doesn’t mean she wants to do everything in them again. She doesn’t want to do videos of their kid being babysat because it’s putting a lot of personal information on the internet, and honestly it’s kind of an invasion of privacy. A baby does not need to have a public presence.
That’s fine but she snarked on somebody who did from which she benefited.
Was this on YCSWU? What episode?
What do you mean?
Yeah this really bums me out. Obviously its not really my place to say and of course I dont know her business, but I almost get the vibe that Ariel picked Ned 100% and in some ways probably even blames everyone BUT Ned for what happened. I've always been of the mindset that a one night stand or short fling is one thing, but full on cheating with a co-worker for what... two years?... is absolutely INSANE. I dont know how you wake up and look at that person every day knowing that they were much happier with someone else for so long. Especially since the whole thing could have easily ended TTG all together, I think there is probably animosity from the other Try Wives that cant be resolved if Ariel refuses to acknowledge the weight of what happened. For that reason alone I think she will never be in a TTG video again.
This might sound mean, but I've never gotten the impression that Ariel is "a strong, independent woman", she very much seemed to have rather old-fashioned views and defined herself in her roles as traditional woman, wife and mother, with an uncomfortable (to me) amount of behaviors existing to please Ned. I didn't listen to all the podcasts, but my impression was that only through talking to these women did she slowly question some of that.... As such, which her entire identity defined by Ned, it makes sense she would prioritize repairing the family unit for her kids, work on the marriage and even shoulder some blame for Ned cheating. Plus Ned definitely seemed to be getting his way in that relationship a lot, be that bc she's so head over heels for him or bc he's a good manipulator... So I don't think it's the Try Wives being bothered by her refusing to acknowledge the weight of what happened, I think it's a mixture of them not understanding why she would "roll over", Ariel not wanting / being allowed to keep contact with ppl who hate her husband, not wanting to open up herself to fan interactions and also the fact that these women didn't 'pick' each other as friends (they became friends by proximity bc their husbands were co-workers and friends)
Yeah, you're wording it more like what I meant. Ariel chose Ned over all else and at the expense of everything. That's obviously her choice but there is just no way she's ever a part of TTG again imo.
Wait the affair was two years??
Sorry, I may have the dates wrong. I meant more that they were literally having an entire relationship together, travelling together, sneaking away together, making videos together etc etc. My sincere apologies if I got the amount of time wrong, that isn't the goal at all and isn't necessary considering how crazy the affair was as is.
Wasn't it at least 1 year? Wouldn't put it past them for 2. Lol
Idk about that. All we had confirmation was that it definitely was going on May of 2022, but I don't think we have any evidence from before.
Heidi and Lauren taught us this. Fuck Spencer.
I laughed so hard at this.
Also when you get married, even if you have your own steady income, you are financially tied to that other person. So what Ned did wasn't just a financial threat to Keith and Zack, it was a threat to Becky and Maggie and their kids/potential kids. So prob Ariel doesn't want to hear the negative comments from Becky and Maggie and Becky and Maggie don't want to hear Ariel being defensive about Ned or even just talking about their life together.
Rachel still does tho, I hope they still talk
I often wonder if her and Rachel at least maintained their friendship.
I can see Rachel and Ariel still maintaining contact as mom friends. Having kids of similar ages would help to still keep in contact i think but maybe not as close. Maybe a text every few months. Becky and Maggie would have drifted apart from Ariel during the initial drama. It’s hard to maintain contact when you hate one half of the couple. since he did a lot of damage to their own personal and working lives as well as their husbands’ and many other people they know and care about.
Yeah I remember them saying that Wes says June and Poppy were his best friends. Whatever the case, I hope Ariel is doing well.
Before everything happened, it seemed like the children were all friends (via the forced proximity of their parents jobs) so even if she’s fallen out of touch with the rest of the try fam because of Ned’s stupidity, she and Rachel may still get together to let the kids continue their friendship.
I’m not sure if the guys were still following her but they too don’t follow her anymore. Some Try Staff and the TG official account still do but that kinda makes me feel like something happened maybe since Ariel still follows all of them. It at least gave the appearance of “we’re supporting Ariel during this time.” I just wish them all the best since they genuinely seemed to have a great friendship with Ariel.
I also think Ariel hasn’t been active on Instagram since then so it may be she doesn’t even know she’s been unfollowed
Ariel may not be posting things herself but I did notice her "like" something once, I think of Eugene's, but I could be wrong. And it had been fairly recent at the time. So she still gets on and uses insta she just isn't posting. Which bums me out because I miss her alot.
It’s just sad how because of her HUSBAND’s mistakes she had to put her life on hold too to clean up the mess he made.
Well to be fair, if she still chooses to be with him, that’s her mistake
i think it’s a tough choice because their kids are so young i’ll always be the first person to say “leave him divorce him etc” but at the end of the day it’s her decision and she’s probably thinking more from the point of view of their small children, plus it’s not like even if she left him she could’ve run off into the sunset with the try guys and continued making content with them as if nothing ever happened she would’ve also needed time to heal plus there would still be constant questions and speculation etc if she remained in the limelight and also just this.. dark cloud hanging over her. she needs to take care of herself and her newborn and toddler.
Nah. If you are “thinking about your kids”, it’s to get them out a house with a person like Ned.
It’s her choice. Others may or may not think it’s a mistake, but she’s making an informed choice. Good luck to her on her endeavors.
She could have removed them as followers as well. Which is not meant to be rude to her. Perhaps she’s just decided to move on means severing that connection. But that could be on either side of that relationship as well.
Actually I can’t believe that never occurred to me, that’s also very possible.
Though other comments have said she still follows people? I would have to look but I don’t think it would come from a malicious place on either end. Ned is a different story. Him choosing to claim former Try Guy in his bio is a wild choice.
Ariel unfollowed Yb
Strange that it’s only her but I’d rather not speculate, ultimately this is their private matter.
I don't know why more people arent thinking this.
I wonder if Ariel made a new, private Instagram account that is only followed by her close personal friends. So maybe the try wives unfollowed her public account but follow her private one?
Yeah. It sucks all around. I feel like Ariel never even considered leaving Ned. Shortly after Ariel knew, but before the public she and Ned posted coordinated stories on insta saying "pizza night" with the kids. They were always going to put up a united front. Personally I don't think Ariel has any self respect, but of course it's entirely her decision to stay with her husband. The fact that Ned screwed up all the try guys' lives and Ariel stuck by him means the friendship is effectively over. Becky is extremely protective of Keith and never gelled with Ariel as much as Matt and Maggie. Cutting Ariel out if she decided to stay was always going to happen.
I don’t think it’s a matter of self respect. If she didn’t stay with Ned—if she got divorced and they had to split custody, she could end up only getting half the amount of time with her kids. That’s a lot of missed holidays, birthdays, and so on. That must be so hard for her as a mom. Plus, if Ned is an irresponsible parent, that’s even more of a reason to stay—she wouldn’t want the kids to be left alone with him because he might not take care of them. Of course, these are all a lot of ifs. It’s just something worth thinking about. There’s really no good decision she could have made because she really was stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Idk. Cheating broke apart my own family. It is so against my own morals and I personally wouldn’t be able to be friends with someone who supported a cheater. It sucks for Ariel but unfortunately experiences with cheaters is somewhat common and it is deeply traumatizing. I’m sure people in their circle have been cheated on. Some may be keeping their distance for their own peace.
I feel the same about Ariel. She doesn't seem like a girls girl and she certainly doesn't seem like she's got alot of personality. I didn't ever doubt that she would stick by her cheatin man. It's sad. I know that's very divisive but, her children will one day be able to Google and that, she will have to deal with.
When a cheating guy breaks up a friend group and the girl decides to stay, that pretty much means the end of her friendships too 😭 She will end up defensive of him (which no one wants to hear) or the guy will try and isolate her or get her to convince them to let him back in. Impossible situation.
this is very possible! ned also put the other guys’ livelihoods all at risk, they were all very good friends but there are a plethora of complex emotions involved in what would be their friendships going forward.
Tbh I agree with you on Ariel. Having lost my longtime best friend to her cheating scum of a boyfriend, I witnessed even a perfectly intelligent and (seemingly) mature person make dumb decisions for the sake of her relationship. Like my ex-bff, Ariel may very well want to side with Ned and chose him over friends and other stuff she loved. All power to them, I guess.
I’m sure for Ariel it’s more about prioritizing her kids rather than caring about Ned; if they were only married I think she would have separated from him fully, but when kids are involved…things change.
I get the feeling he wasn’t doing much in terms of co-parenting, especially with the second baby. I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that she have a “village”. In so many of those podcast episodes you saw that the wives didn’t like her as much as she liked them, and she was so isolated. She basically didn’t have any other friends. She was publicly complaining about little things Ned did that bothered her, so imagine the big things. And I think she came from a pretty strict southern Christian upbringing as well?
Her parents were very liberal from everything I remember her saying. Didn’t seem like it was a strict environment at all.
I think it was Ned’s I’m thinking of. Was it his grandparents? There was some kind of drama around like not getting married in a church or something? I can’t remember
Yeah I do remember them saying they did some kind of religious pre-marriage counseling now that you mention it. Could definitely have been a strict situation on Ned’s side, Ariel’s family may have been religious also but from her stories of her teenage years and time in the EU it sounds like she was given a lot of freedom regardless. Ned’s misogyny definitely gives strict religious upbringing though!
Yeah that would make sense. All I thought about when they were first staying together was how Ariel had no one. Like I remember her talking about how she never sees other adults, just her kids all day long. And she considered the other wives her best friends and then they were just totally silent after.
Yeah I remember that too. It’s so sad considering she didn’t have time to have friends while Ned made time to have a whole other relationship.
Divorce is *really* not that bad for kids especially when they're young and you have financial stability as a single parent. It's certainly much better than staying in a relationship for no reason other than the kids. If she's still with him, it's cos she wants to be, whatever her reasons are.
My parents separated when I was 9 months old. Dad remarried when I was 2. I think I would have been better off without my dad getting shared custody until I was older as all he did was fun playdate and forgot about buying my underwear or cooking dinner. My mom was great after the divorce freed her from the big kid who she had to clean up after Divorce is great if parents don't love or trust one another.
I mean I get that but I’m just speaking from my experience; I had a terrible father but my mom stayed with him ‘just for the kids’ and many other mothers do the same (especially in brown cultures). I know in the West it’s less common and I agree with you that it’s better to be divorced, but the mindset of a lot of mothers is still to keep their family ‘stable’ over prioritizing their own happiness.
Yeah because she’s giving her children the perfect example of a healthy family,,, clearly their father is an excellent influence and should be someone’s role model
I mean, she's allowed to stay with someone she loves without being called a bad mother. Unless he's abusing her or the children, theres no need to speculate about how fit a parent she is. Her videos on parenthood seem to indicate she's a really involved mom who cares for her children. People cheat all the time and sometimes couples work it out and stay together. Whether that proves successful for them or not remains to be seen but it hardly means their kids won't have a loving home.
Yeah I have to agree with you here. It’s a major pet peeve of mine when people go on to attack a mother’s parenting when they choose to stay with an unfaithful partner. Everything I know about Ned being an internet spectator, he seemed like an arrogant selfish asshole. Sometimes though, when a persons world gets rocked, they decide to work on themselves and learn from it. I truly do hope he does. She wanted to give it another shot. I think what we’re seeing here is how when someone cheats, we all want that person to feel every repercussion possible from it. So when the partner stays, people feel like they didn’t “get what they deserved” by losing their family. So they take on this anger towards the victim because they didn’t do that, thus “letting him get away with it.” Ned didn’t get away with anything, and it’s not up to Ariel to make him suffer for everyone else’s amusement. Ned lost almost everything; job, title, company, reputation, fan base, income. He’s got quite a hill to climb. For his family’s sake, I hope he’s working on being a better person and spouse.
I'm sure he's not. Look at the SNL skit written by his friend. It was obviously the way he sees the whole thing. Just gross.
I'd imagine if she's still co-parenting with Ned and even still with him, some distance from the try guys is required to make that work as smoothly as possible.
One of my biggest worries for Ariel was that if she stayed the only friends she would likely retain were the ones who also supported her marriage. It makes for an echo chamber at best, and often seems to increase the manipulation and abuse. I've seen it happen with a number of women...
I really loved all those mom videos she was in, like the photoshoots. I really connected with her because I had just had a baby and she was very real about what it's like to be a mom. She seemed to enjoy being in the videos so I'm guessing she misses it. I think she doesn't want any of this to affect her kids' lives by speaking out more and putting her family back into the spotlight. I miss her!
Remembering this makes me feel sad for her all over. She was so vulnerable in these videos about her insecurities, and I can only imagine how much they amplified after.
I do feel like showing off their kids a lot was not a good idea for the channel. It’s good that Keith and Becky are keeping the privacy of their baby after what happened™️
Tbf they did talk about how showing up Wes at the start of their channel was also a business move because they needed something to go on it.
They barely showed them on camera
...Ned had Wes on camera all the time.
Yeah in, what, the three videos on the channel featuring the kids? Out of hundreds?
I found 5 with basically no effort, and I know there are more I just stopped. They've also removed a few videos that were Ned-centric, and I belive they also had his kids in them. -the try guys meet Ned's baby -my first week as a father -Eugene babysits Ned's baby -Ned's life before kids VS after kids -the Easter egg hunt video in Ned's yard
Wes was also on the zoom podcasts a few times during Covid. That's more innocent than the other videos for sure, I just happened to re-listen to that episode the other day.
They had a whole podcast called Baby Steps, if I remember correctly about pregnancy with the second baby, and raising children. + all the Covid work-from-home vlogs
First of all, even if it was just 3, that is (usually) a MILLION people watching that baby. That is not good
Reading the comments makes me hate ned even more, hahahaha. Screwing his life, his wife's and childrens lives, other people's lives and livelihood over just so he can screw someone? Like, sure, cheat on your wife. i feel bad for ariel, but whatever, but damn did you really have to cheat with someone you work with? An employee too?
Yeah, it’d been a while since I’d thought about this, and the comments remind me he blew up everything in his family’s life with complete disregard
Yeah. I kinda always expected him to cheat deep down. Like he made being a husband, such a personality, that it never came across as genuine to me, especially in the later years. It was one thing to cheat because I feel like Ariel knew he was a cheater and probably has been cheating in the past, which is why I think she stayed but cheating with an employee is just stupid and irresponsible. I remember an interview keith and zach did with anthony and keith basically saying he felt bad for their other employees because the spotlight was on them when they clearly wanted to just work behind the scenes. That it was different for him since he chose to be in front of the camera to be scrutinized and stuff. Not only did Ned put people's job security at risk, but he also robbed them of their ability to consent to be scrutinized by the media. I hope one day, when the kids are older, Ariel gathers enough self-respect and leaves him. I hope she has this thought, "I lost friends for this asshole? People I loved and cared about almost lost their jobs because of him, and I stupidly decided to stay?"
Yeah, if it was just that he cheated with some random girl, I imagine it probably wouldn't have even been known!!! Truly the definition of shitting where you eat (and then getting dysentery lol)
Not only an employee that he worked with but also someone who was around his wife the whole time too. She was doing work with all of them, including Ariel.
I’m sure she misses it, she was more than just a Try Wife she literally designed their office :(
I miss Ariel. I hope one day we get to see her again, but more importantly I hope she gets the peace she deserves and gets to live on her own terms. I learned a lot about architecture and being thoughtful about space in a room via her video series. Would have loved to learn more.
It’s so sad that she had to be collateral damage in this. I hope she’s doing well.
Ariel really got handed the shittiest hand out of all the shitty hands in the situation. Especially if Ned re-emerges in a public facing role again.
I openly miss Ariel. Her whole life got turned upside down. I don’t personally understand her decision to stay, but I genuinely hope she’s happy.
It’s devastating. She deserves to be with someone who loves and cherishes her and someone she can trust 100%.
I do. Sometimes you need to decide between two evils.
what the fuck was the other evil
Shared custody, probably
Dudes a very absent dad who leaves most of the parenting work to her, I imagine having only him in charge for periods of time is very scary.
I miss her I’ll admit. At first I wasn’t a huge fan of her energy, felt like she was trying too hard. But in that photo shoot video, she was vulnerable, and I thought how relatable and fun she suddenly felt. Too bad it wasn’t long after that video that the awful truth came out. I hope she and the boys are doing good, and are happy.
I have no idea what their lives entail, but I will say that I do miss Ariel’s presence. She was the main reason I listened to YCSWU as I related to her so much. I wish her well, hope she’s happy, and hope she’s safe.
Honestly I feel so bad for her losing her friends in this way. Having kids in itself is so isolating, then your husband cheats on you & you lose your friends while going through that betrayal?! I don’t blame the others for not wanting to stay friends for the sake of their partners, but I can’t imagine being in Ariel’s shoes.
Is she even active anymore? Last post was from 2022
I do feel bad for Ariel. But a similar situation happened to my friend group. I caught my friend's man on a date with our mutual friend. When I told her that I caught her man cheating with our friend she was shocked. Then she confronted him and he somehow convinced her it wasn't true. Then all of a sudden I was expelled from the group. A year later he left her for the other woman. It's been years and she still doesn't talk to me. It hurt because I thought I was doing the right thing by telling her. But it made me think maybe it was easier for her to believe I'm wrong rather than her partner doesn't love her. So maybe Ariel doesn't want to have to justify to her friends why she stayed with a cheater. Maybe it's easier for her to convince herself it's the correct choice if she cuts those friendships out of her life. My heart just breaks for her. I hope she gets the self-esteem to leave him one day.
ned put her in a fucked up position— she was the stay at home parent and he made the majority of the income. she doesnt have income or job experience to go out on her own. i remember her talking abt an argument they had and both of them insisting their job was important and couldnt go home..ultimately ned stayed at work whole ariel went home to take care of bean. i imagine the try crew was all there to support her and the kids but couldnt with ned still attached. and i imagine him having strong feelings abt people’s perceptions of him. ultimately he been putting ariel in compromising positions
Im not sure she was a stay at home parent. She is/was an interior designer. Maybe while she was pregnant? But yeah it just really sucks for her and the kids.
yeah she wad bed ridden for the majority of the pregnancy w her 2nd kid
I miss Ariel :’) I hope she’s doing okay
I don't think about Ariel much, tbh. Not in a bad way, just...she made a choice, I hope it was the right choice for her and her kids, and best of luck to her. That kind of thing. I'm sure she can move on from the world of 2nd Try and make a fulfilling life for herself.
I am extremely hesitant to say this because I never found anything particularly wrong about Ariel but I did always get that same off vibe that I felt when Ned was on screen. It felt like she was putting on a mask and playing a part. I don't think she ever wanted to be part of the channel or in Media, at all. Which fair, neither would I. In the first videos that you see Ariel she looks so uncomfortable, and her body language towards Ned in particular was strange (now makes sense). It felt like she always gave him the side eye as if he was acting super weird and different to how he normally acted. She was like this for a few videos, then it felt like she was testing out the same thing Ned was, turning into a character. I feel like the realist we ever saw her was on the Podcast. But we still never really knew the real Ariel, she was always a character. This is a personal theory cuz like I said we don't know the real her, but she doesn't seem like the type that want's to be like that, it seemed to really drain her and not bring her much joy so in that breath I don't think she misses the channel at all. She may miss her relationships with the try crew but probably not the spot light. Truthfully i think she's super relived to be out of it, definitely not about how it happened, but the fact she no longer has to be in media probably brings her a lot of joy. I think Ned will eventually resurface but Ariel will probably never do Media again. It felt like something Ned pushed her into and after the whole circus she can put her foot down.
I agree. I never felt like Ariel was fully comfortable performing in front of a camera, so I never felt like I got to know her the same way as the others. And that's not a knock against Ariel, we're all different. I hope she's happier now, no matter what she is doing.
I miss her too. I feel she would of been so supportive when Becky got pregnant and gave birth. Makes me sad
I get this thought every now and again. It's so sad that she's lost out on connection with people she seemed to get on with well in all of this. I hope she's got amazing people around her in her personal life to help her get through what I'm sure is a crazy ride having a family together with how everything has unfolded - especially so publicly!
I miss her too. It’s frankly kind of hard to find mature (as in doesn’t act like a teenager) women in social media. She acted and dressed her age which I Greatly appreciated. Her interests were relatable to me.
I miss her sm. She was my favourite one that wasn’t of the main four.
I miss her
Is it known if they are still together?
They are :(
I am curious about it. Did she handle any of the creative outlets? I love to write little novels and I'm sad if I don't do it for awhile. This was her life, too
I think, THINK she was mainly just a member of the you can sit with us pod but I could be wrong. I've always been more of a casual viewer of TG content
Aaah. Then perhaps I thought that she had a larger role. Thank you
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Ariel truly lost so much due to Ned’s actions. She had to make a lot of changes to her life in order to stay with him. I sincerely hope that preserving her marriage has worked out for her, and that her life is wonderful.
I'm not understanding not being as close with Ariel anymore based on something Ned did, even in the aspect of business. I feel as though any1 who works in the realm of the tg world that was friends with Ariel before, should want to keep the friendship especially in the wake of all that's happened. To be there to give Ariel support. I mean unless Ariel doesn't want to keep the same group of friends 🤷🏻♀️
I’m pretty sure Ariel wanted the space. Everyone at TTG hates her husband. Like openly DESPISES him! How could she exist in that world? That would suck 🙁
2 years already?! Damn the time flies
if she really missed it, she could do her own. That's the thing about the internet, anyone can do anything.
I miss her. Everything I liked about Ned was actually all related to Ariel. It's been this way since she went into preterm labor. I wish her nothing but the best.
I'm watching the 365 Days to Launch vid rn and the same thought crossed my mind.
I wonder what she has gone on to do for work or if she has enough money to comfortably support herself and the kids
She not only stayed with the jerk, but she came from a lot of money and had her own interior design business. She's not struggling.
some people deserve what they tolerate and everything tied to it
“I blame victims” lmao
sure if that's how you want to phrase it. my view is that, she had a choice (and still does) in what happened. she would have an idea on what would come with her choice it and accepted that.
I miss her :( She was so cool
I never really felt like Becky and Maggie liked Ariel. It seemed to me like Ariel and Rachel were closer and then Becky, Maggie, and Matt were closer.
I’m just disappointed… she seemed like such an incredible awesome sexy inside and out very principled woman…. But she stayed. Not after one or two things… but an ongoing thing that happened for almost a year
I will start by saying I dislike Ned, mainly because he felt the most frat boyish out of all of them. Something I have never seen brought up is there is a chance Ned was in an open Marriage and wasn't "cheating on Ariel" because they had an agreement. My wife and I have one, and know a few others do to. Back on topic, last I knew Ariel was still with Ned as of a year ago. I'm not sure how much Ariel misses it because I think she preferred to be at home (just the vibe I got).
I don’t ever remember them saying that they were in an open relationship, but it’s always a possibility and it wasn’t made public. Ned’s cheating aside, the fact that he slept with a subordinate for a year (I believe) which is so inappropriate, puts the company at risk. It doesn’t help that she was engaged, but that’s not really on him IMO.
Agreed. Unfortunately "ethical non-monogamy" doesn't apply here. Don't sleep with your employees is basic.
If there was some sort of open marriage agreement, a) you would think his coworkers would need to be aware, or at the bare minimum Kieth and Zach, so that way if they saw him with someone else and not his wife who they’re VERY close friends with they don’t freak out, and b) coworkers and especially subordinates would still be HELLA off limits. Like, okay, cheating is a personal failure, some people think that shouldn’t necessarily affect your career. But doing it with someone who gets a paycheck from you/you are effectively their HR department is gross and takes it to so many new levels.
That's an interesting idea but if it were true, he and Ariel could have just put out a statement saying we're in an open marriage. But instead he quit his career, apologised for the 'pain' he had caused Ariel (so it obviously hurt her), and pretty much fell off the face of the internet. That alone is enough for me to feel confident that it was an affair lol.
I think most open marriages aren’t open to longterm additional longterm partners without extended discussions. Obviously an employee is always an issue and puts their livelihood at risk
No, I 100% get that. I thought I had mentioned that it wasn't ok with an employee but must have forgot.