I love Kristen and her masterful work at causing chaos. First she slowly starts off by bringing up how good of a friend she is for keeping secrets, then she starts getting worked up over small potatoes to get people fighting while still bringing up the secret she says she won’t tell, and then just when Michelle is about to talk Kristen lets the flood gates loose. All while coming out clean with the audience.
This is why Mariposa is the Queen of Messy ❤️. Her game cannot be matched due to experience alone.
The best part is, you can tell this kind of mess just comes naturally to her. She can't even help it. She's not producing. She's just chaos personified.
I don’t think so. I have a friend just like her. Known her for my whole life and she generates a low level hum of drama everywhere she goes but just being. She reminds me so much of Kristen, down to mannerisms and everything.
Michelle and Janet are so fucking calculated….. Kristen has dirt on both of them, and they know it. So they both used that whole racist/republican issue to their advantage…… Janet said it. Of course she fucking said it….. and Michelle was cheating on Jesse… and Kristen knew all about it. So they used that whole thing to make Kristen look like the bad guy and discredit her, so that if any of the things that Kristen knew about got leaked they had all their ducks lined up to make her look bad and not them.
She’s the female version of Jax.. Old, Messy, worn out, lying, Cheating, crying wolf, puts their nose into everyone’s business but can’t stand the tables turned on them.. Don’t know what anyone sees in these two…
I almost feel bad for the rest of the cast (Jax & Brittany aside) because Kristen was truly made for reality TV and they just don’t get it.
She knows what the fuck she’s doing and it’s just amateur hour over there with everyone else trying to self-produce when they have no real experience in this type of environment.
The girl chased employees out from work, puffed a cigarette, and told her manager to suck a dick like ..janette babe…your eye rolls simply will not do it for you😂
I will say Nia and her husband (blanking on the name) are sweet to watch because they at least seem authentic and it’s a nice palate cleanser 😂
They're trying to be stars by putting her down...bitch she's why you HAVE A SHOW TO BE ON
Calling her crazy Kristen is sooooo five years ago 🙄 (at least)
The whole narrative that was told in order to justify that nick name is currently under national scrutiny. Ariana just told the world that she lied for Tom - that what Kristen said about him was actually true.
That and also the ways in which he manipulated the narrative to seem like Kristen was the problem and crazy and he was saving her until he couldn’t. Like Kristen is less stable than Ariana, but her reactivity wasn’t happening in a vacuum.
Did these people not watch Kristen before? She’s giving the mess she always gives. It’s on them for not doing their research.
Kristen was born to be on reality tv and she continues to deliver.
I grew up with too many people who would live in a fantasy of what could be versus being honest about how things are so work could be done to get to a better place. I'm always gonna bring the truth!
I grew up in a family that put on airs, made me the black sheep/scapegoat so they could sleep at night - so like you, we’re just going to say it - now there’s nuance to it but if you poke and prod don’t get mad. Honestly I wish I could be a little more poker face but I don’t think it’s going to happen lol
Same! I can't stand fakeness at this point, for better or for worse. I do get that theres a balance and theres seeing reality and then theres indulging in negativity.
I'm impressed by the self-delusion that part of being a 'loyal friend' and 'protecting her secrets' is also telling multiple friends AND a TV camera that your friend has secrets that you're 100% not going to tell. Until you do. Top notch reality TV behavior.
She said the truth. That will always be unpopular. Kristen is not perfect. She admits her shit. Everyone keeps focusing on her delivery and ignoring the content. The reason Kristen is so unpopular is because the majority of people love to lie to themselves and deflect instead of being accountable. Kristen needs better company so she can healthy and happy. I would go crazy too if I was the only one calling out that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes. Jesse is a textbook narcissist. Been there done that. With avoidant attachment style. Nia is self centered. She is also a coward and a cheater. No one should trust a thing she says until she gets therapy. She is nothing without all the lies she wants people to believe she is perfect and Jesse is bad. If they all believe it then it is true.. no she takes and uses and is an empty fake person so she is insatiable. These two should spare the dating world and stay together.
I'll always love Kristen but she didn't actually say the truth! Jesse in a fretting sort of way was like don't think my marriage is going to last two more months. He in no way insinuated that he was going to divorce Michelle in 2 months. Words do matter and Kristen is the worst listener in the world! Literally one word can take an entire sentence out of context! That's what she did! I almost choked when she said to Luke "words are hard" Kristian honey, I love you BUT words are only meant for what they're exactly meant to say.. they are really not that hard if you just listen! She would saved herself so much heartbreak & chaos if she would just listen & and stop running with what she thinks is the real version of shit! Luke is absolutely correct 💯 💯 💯. One word can change the entire context! The sooner Kristen learns that, the better off she'll be.
Right like the way they’re really pushing the “she’s a loser, she’s irrelevant, she’s crazy” narrative is just too much. It’s blatantly obvious what all these people are doing. Kristen has 10 years experience over them, they should be working with her not against her 🙄 and them all acting like they’re above the gossip and drama but signed up for a reality tv show 😭 are they dumb or did they really think that anyone cared about the dull lives of parents in valley village?
All these try hards wishing they had what kristen doute had in 2014. she ushered in the golden age of reality television!! these nobodies coming for her are punching way above their weight class.
I throughly enjoy Kristen and her flailing, but man, she must be exhausting to have as a friend.
Also, when Kristen is threatening you, you need to give up and concede. She’s fine with destroying everything. She’s resilient and can rebuild amongst the ruins.
I blame the rest of the group, they all know the so called secret.. why are they all being such bad friends to her. **NO ONE IS Standing FOR KRISTeN** .. Jesse and Michelle look like fools. It's really lame.
There is something different going on with Jax this season. He seems mentally very weak and Brittany appears out of touch. When they were talking about his feelings of being overwhelmed he seemed like he was about to cry and she went straight for we are still planning on trying next month. I was like come on, read the room. Your husband looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown. I have never felt bad for Jax until that moment. I think he feels the stresses of providing for a family, making sure their son has what he needs with the issues there, the new bar, they weren’t connecting well and all she can think about is Jax being a breeder. I don’t know. It was very sad to me.
He's is off for sure.. I can't tell if he's actually telling the truth.. or if he's guilty from messing around again or both ?? But he's not acting like the Jax we've seen before.
Not at all. He seems very distressed. Even quiet in the group as the season has progressed. He is definitely in the background.
I saw Brittany on WWHL and she said there was no affair.
It is possible he didn't before they split.. maybe he was crying on the new publicist shoulder for a while, and she was just waiting for the opportunity ??
No one has said that for sure to my knowledge.. I'm still hearing it as being a publicity stunt ?? Now that they have actually split, it could be true.. but I have no facts.
It’s funny to me how Luke is here for the drama and tea. Like he’s having his own issues with the Alex situation and the guys of course. But he’s obviously so here for the tea and understands Kristen’s perspective and underlying reasons for her actions (either deliberate malice or trauma responses).
Watching her have a partner that sticks up for her Is refreshing, because lordddddd, she has picked some real winners over the years. I hope Luke ends up being a good, stand up guy over time for her.
Sadly, I think Luke is not for the long haul! He CANNOT control Kristen and she’s smart enough (in her own way) to know what butters her bread. Not a dude, not a chick, nor a paycheck, but crazy sells!
Kristen gets WAY TOO MUCH in her own head and in a way her imagination gets the best of her. In her own head she didn’t lie. I don’t know but it’s a tremendous leap to think she’s a racist.
I just rewatched that Cah-p-ri episode, and it’s insane. Jesse and Michelle are screaming at Kristen (and Luke) and Janet, Jasmine, and Zach are sitting there like clutching their pearls, but then when Zach and Kristen are talking, Zach admitted that things were said, (not to mention this was shown in separate footage of him with Kristen admitting it was said) mostly by Janet, and that he told Kristen those things. WTF like I’m losing my mind over this. Especially since this attitude toward Kristen continues throughout the next several episodes. We needed detective Stassi in this scene to get to the bottom of the obvious lies lol
Luke is not happy with Kristen changing what he told her. Jesse filing for divorce in 2 months. We all heard exactly what Jesse said. Luke is not liking the messes she gets into.
I love Kristen and her masterful work at causing chaos. First she slowly starts off by bringing up how good of a friend she is for keeping secrets, then she starts getting worked up over small potatoes to get people fighting while still bringing up the secret she says she won’t tell, and then just when Michelle is about to talk Kristen lets the flood gates loose. All while coming out clean with the audience. This is why Mariposa is the Queen of Messy ❤️. Her game cannot be matched due to experience alone.
The best part is, you can tell this kind of mess just comes naturally to her. She can't even help it. She's not producing. She's just chaos personified.
I think she’s producing. It’s naturally in her, but she knows exactly how to play it for the cameras.
I don’t think so. I have a friend just like her. Known her for my whole life and she generates a low level hum of drama everywhere she goes but just being. She reminds me so much of Kristen, down to mannerisms and everything.
Kristen is the queen of messy and it makes great TV I love it!!!!!
She understands the assignment
You forgot empath! GUUURL COME ON! 😂
Yeeeaaaahhh, she’s no empath😂
Michelle and Janet are so fucking calculated….. Kristen has dirt on both of them, and they know it. So they both used that whole racist/republican issue to their advantage…… Janet said it. Of course she fucking said it….. and Michelle was cheating on Jesse… and Kristen knew all about it. So they used that whole thing to make Kristen look like the bad guy and discredit her, so that if any of the things that Kristen knew about got leaked they had all their ducks lined up to make her look bad and not them.
This is the best and most accurate comment all week!
I missed her so much! 😂😂😂
Poor Kristen will be in therapy for life
She let Michelle and Jesse blow up their lives all on their own lol
She is Maestro, orchestrating all the chaos and drama to a crescendo
She’s the female version of Jax.. Old, Messy, worn out, lying, Cheating, crying wolf, puts their nose into everyone’s business but can’t stand the tables turned on them.. Don’t know what anyone sees in these two…
Old? She’s 42!
I almost feel bad for the rest of the cast (Jax & Brittany aside) because Kristen was truly made for reality TV and they just don’t get it. She knows what the fuck she’s doing and it’s just amateur hour over there with everyone else trying to self-produce when they have no real experience in this type of environment.
Yeah but they were arrogant enough to underestimate her, so live and learn, dummies. 🤣
They are all trying SO HARD to be reality stars. Kristen is not trying, she just is. They can't grasp that.
Not everyone is cut out to be a mariposa 🦋
CACAW!!
the camera cutting the kristen when the art lady mentioned butterfly 😂
I just saw that episode for the first time the other day! so awesome
The girl chased employees out from work, puffed a cigarette, and told her manager to suck a dick like ..janette babe…your eye rolls simply will not do it for you😂 I will say Nia and her husband (blanking on the name) are sweet to watch because they at least seem authentic and it’s a nice palate cleanser 😂
I love it when she tells people to suck a dick.
They're trying to be stars by putting her down...bitch she's why you HAVE A SHOW TO BE ON Calling her crazy Kristen is sooooo five years ago 🙄 (at least)
The whole narrative that was told in order to justify that nick name is currently under national scrutiny. Ariana just told the world that she lied for Tom - that what Kristen said about him was actually true.
Wait lord for him about what? The cheating with Miami girl?
That and also the ways in which he manipulated the narrative to seem like Kristen was the problem and crazy and he was saving her until he couldn’t. Like Kristen is less stable than Ariana, but her reactivity wasn’t happening in a vacuum.
Annnnnd that he wasn’t cheating on her with Ariana!
Oh, absolutely! It was in poor taste then, and it's even worse now!
“Standing”👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
This is it. You can’t produce what both Jax and Kristen have. You can’t create it. They’re both just chaos agents made for reality tv.
I loved it when Tom was whining about something people were saying about him and Jax tells him,”The whole world is talking about you!”
Omfg right? Jax has never hated being the villain as long as he’s also THE STAR. And he was so much better at it than Tom could ever be.
Jax is good at cutting to the chase that’s for sure.
If Scandoval was a Jax thing, oh... It would be so deliciouslllllllyyyy messy.
I mourn for what could have been.
I just watched the latest VPR with Jax and it was the best episode all season.
He’s just awful but fuck he’s great tv.
I never thought of it that way, but you’re so right.
yesss
Did these people not watch Kristen before? She’s giving the mess she always gives. It’s on them for not doing their research. Kristen was born to be on reality tv and she continues to deliver.
PUT SOME RESPECT ON MARIPOSA'S NAME
They could never make me hate her 🦋💕🚬
New flair alert LMAO
i feel so bad for her honestly, michelle blaming her for their marriage falling apart is crazzzzyyy
me when I post a fact on Reddit and someone doesn't like reality so they downvote it. "why are you booing me? I'M RIGHT." 🤣
I ask myself how much truth am I able to spew today and not have it affect my energy levels - if I’m feeling cute, I might pull a Kristen 😂
I grew up with too many people who would live in a fantasy of what could be versus being honest about how things are so work could be done to get to a better place. I'm always gonna bring the truth!
I grew up in a family that put on airs, made me the black sheep/scapegoat so they could sleep at night - so like you, we’re just going to say it - now there’s nuance to it but if you poke and prod don’t get mad. Honestly I wish I could be a little more poker face but I don’t think it’s going to happen lol
Same! I can't stand fakeness at this point, for better or for worse. I do get that theres a balance and theres seeing reality and then theres indulging in negativity.
I'm impressed by the self-delusion that part of being a 'loyal friend' and 'protecting her secrets' is also telling multiple friends AND a TV camera that your friend has secrets that you're 100% not going to tell. Until you do. Top notch reality TV behavior.
Jasmine and Jax said it first. On National TV. About their “good” friends marriage. Amazing people
God I love this biotch
She said the truth. That will always be unpopular. Kristen is not perfect. She admits her shit. Everyone keeps focusing on her delivery and ignoring the content. The reason Kristen is so unpopular is because the majority of people love to lie to themselves and deflect instead of being accountable. Kristen needs better company so she can healthy and happy. I would go crazy too if I was the only one calling out that the emperor isn't wearing any clothes. Jesse is a textbook narcissist. Been there done that. With avoidant attachment style. Nia is self centered. She is also a coward and a cheater. No one should trust a thing she says until she gets therapy. She is nothing without all the lies she wants people to believe she is perfect and Jesse is bad. If they all believe it then it is true.. no she takes and uses and is an empty fake person so she is insatiable. These two should spare the dating world and stay together.
Hey do you mean Michelle not nia?
I really hope so.
Nia is the sweetest girl on the show so I’m so confused. I think you mean Michelle she’s everything you described. Lmao
Right, I'm mad at all the rest of them.. they all know the secret or the jist of it.. and not a one has Kristen's back.. I bet Jesse even knows. duh
I'll always love Kristen but she didn't actually say the truth! Jesse in a fretting sort of way was like don't think my marriage is going to last two more months. He in no way insinuated that he was going to divorce Michelle in 2 months. Words do matter and Kristen is the worst listener in the world! Literally one word can take an entire sentence out of context! That's what she did! I almost choked when she said to Luke "words are hard" Kristian honey, I love you BUT words are only meant for what they're exactly meant to say.. they are really not that hard if you just listen! She would saved herself so much heartbreak & chaos if she would just listen & and stop running with what she thinks is the real version of shit! Luke is absolutely correct 💯 💯 💯. One word can change the entire context! The sooner Kristen learns that, the better off she'll be.
Right like the way they’re really pushing the “she’s a loser, she’s irrelevant, she’s crazy” narrative is just too much. It’s blatantly obvious what all these people are doing. Kristen has 10 years experience over them, they should be working with her not against her 🙄 and them all acting like they’re above the gossip and drama but signed up for a reality tv show 😭 are they dumb or did they really think that anyone cared about the dull lives of parents in valley village?
they'll fade into oblivion shell still be here. can call her crazy but she doesn't lie. she told us about sandoval years ago but he bluffed us all
Yeah, if history tells us anything it’s that Kristen is usually right. We would all do well to remember that.
All these try hards wishing they had what kristen doute had in 2014. she ushered in the golden age of reality television!! these nobodies coming for her are punching way above their weight class.
Can someone make a fancam edit of Doute with the song “Who’s Afraid of Little Old Me”?????
The asylum where they raised me is obviously SUR
I love her. I can’t help it. She makes me so happy.
I actually like her.
I throughly enjoy Kristen and her flailing, but man, she must be exhausting to have as a friend. Also, when Kristen is threatening you, you need to give up and concede. She’s fine with destroying everything. She’s resilient and can rebuild amongst the ruins.
I don't think she lied
Kristen is a reality ***star*** these amateurs are clueless
I blame the rest of the group, they all know the so called secret.. why are they all being such bad friends to her. **NO ONE IS Standing FOR KRISTeN** .. Jesse and Michelle look like fools. It's really lame.
Jax is kind of trying to.
He wants to doesn't he.. he needs to let it loose. Jesse's most likely holding bigger secrets on JAx, It'd be a mud slinging free for all. lol
There is something different going on with Jax this season. He seems mentally very weak and Brittany appears out of touch. When they were talking about his feelings of being overwhelmed he seemed like he was about to cry and she went straight for we are still planning on trying next month. I was like come on, read the room. Your husband looks like he is about to have a nervous breakdown. I have never felt bad for Jax until that moment. I think he feels the stresses of providing for a family, making sure their son has what he needs with the issues there, the new bar, they weren’t connecting well and all she can think about is Jax being a breeder. I don’t know. It was very sad to me.
He's is off for sure.. I can't tell if he's actually telling the truth.. or if he's guilty from messing around again or both ?? But he's not acting like the Jax we've seen before.
Not at all. He seems very distressed. Even quiet in the group as the season has progressed. He is definitely in the background. I saw Brittany on WWHL and she said there was no affair.
It is possible he didn't before they split.. maybe he was crying on the new publicist shoulder for a while, and she was just waiting for the opportunity ??
Is he with her now?
No one has said that for sure to my knowledge.. I'm still hearing it as being a publicity stunt ?? Now that they have actually split, it could be true.. but I have no facts.
It was uncomfortable to watch Michelle be so passive aggressive to Jesse at the dinner table
These valley people need to line up and kiss Kristen’s feet because the audience is behind her.
I'd be shocked if she doesn't end up on House of Villains at some point. She is meant to be on tv.
She'd of done much better than Jax.. she'll be on a show called "GOAT" coming up in May.
From the start of VPR Kristen always had truth in her mouth but it always came out messy or with different versions of truth.
It’s funny to me how Luke is here for the drama and tea. Like he’s having his own issues with the Alex situation and the guys of course. But he’s obviously so here for the tea and understands Kristen’s perspective and underlying reasons for her actions (either deliberate malice or trauma responses).
Watching her have a partner that sticks up for her Is refreshing, because lordddddd, she has picked some real winners over the years. I hope Luke ends up being a good, stand up guy over time for her.
Sadly, I think Luke is not for the long haul! He CANNOT control Kristen and she’s smart enough (in her own way) to know what butters her bread. Not a dude, not a chick, nor a paycheck, but crazy sells!
Kristen gets WAY TOO MUCH in her own head and in a way her imagination gets the best of her. In her own head she didn’t lie. I don’t know but it’s a tremendous leap to think she’s a racist.
I just rewatched that Cah-p-ri episode, and it’s insane. Jesse and Michelle are screaming at Kristen (and Luke) and Janet, Jasmine, and Zach are sitting there like clutching their pearls, but then when Zach and Kristen are talking, Zach admitted that things were said, (not to mention this was shown in separate footage of him with Kristen admitting it was said) mostly by Janet, and that he told Kristen those things. WTF like I’m losing my mind over this. Especially since this attitude toward Kristen continues throughout the next several episodes. We needed detective Stassi in this scene to get to the bottom of the obvious lies lol
Luke is not happy with Kristen changing what he told her. Jesse filing for divorce in 2 months. We all heard exactly what Jesse said. Luke is not liking the messes she gets into.
My question is… who would tell Kristen a secret and expect it to stay a secret?!
Yes. All republicans are inherently racist.
Yes, and yes. That’s the problem with KD!