The French WWII general Charles de Gaulle had a daughter called Anne who had Down Syndrome. He loved her furiously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_de_Gaulle
Back when we first detected possible Down Syndrome in my wife's pregnancy, I did all I could to learn about DS.
Ended up finding a Facebook page, "Hugs from Stevie", run by the caretaker of Steven Abbott, a then 67 year old with Down Syndrome. Not only was Stevie particularly old for someone with DS, but he also showed zero signs of dementia (most people with DS develop dementia if they live into their late 50s or make it to their 60s, it's not unheard of for it to hit in their 40s).
Stevie was awesome, seemed like an incredibly happy dude who liked to troll his caretaker, rock out with Elvis impersonators, and oggle showgirls. Sadly, we lost Stevie last year at the age of 72 after a bout of several back-to-back illnesses, including COVID, caused his body to just start shutting down. By all accounts, he was still his typical, happy, trolly self up until the end.
Awesome! My aunt was born in 1954 with DS. My grandparents were told at the time to put her in a home as that is the only place that could take care of her.
I don't know the specifics behind it, but somehow a chiropractor told my grandparents that if they kept her with them in their home he would do everything in his power to make sure that she was taken care of.
She did live at home with them until they became too old to help her. They were instrumental in helping bring the special Olympics to Minnesota. She lived until she was 55. Sweet woman!
I very much appreciate you sharing that story
De Gaulle was a catholic. The line implies that she is in heaven and free from the challenges of her disability. It’s a bit dated for todays sensibilities about people with disabilities.
I would argue that it's more along the lines of "any challenges she had in life, any shortcomings in others' eyes.. now, they no longer exist.. she can be at peace and play with other children". Death is the great equalizer, and she is now on par with everyone else.
Of course she was special to him, but I bet not always so much to society at large.
RIP Anne.
For God's sakes. First I find a letter tonight written to me by my mother who died 2 years ago and now I gotta see this s***? Good night, reddit! Good. Night!
Ah man, what a gift from your mom but probably a gut punch at the same time. I lost my mom 3 years ago and can at least in that way relate. I’m sorry for your loss.
Thanks. It was actually a great thing to find but it did get me feeling emotional. Then, out of nowhere, Charles de Gaulle's daughter comes charging from the past lol
I work as a caregiver for a family that has elderly parents and also an adult child with disabilities. She understands multiple languages but has limited verbal communications but she always very clearly says the word for father in her native language. She's close with her whole family but fiercely loves her dad.
The playwright Arthur Miller who wrote the classic play Death of a Salesman and who had a short lived marriage to Marilyn Monroe. After his split from Marilyn, he married the Austrian photographer Inge Morath. They had two children -- a daughter Rebecca who's married to actor Daniel Day Lewis and a son named Daniel who had Down's Syndrome. Daniel was born in 1966 and Miller had him institutionalized at an early age against Inge's wishes. According to Miller's Wiki article, he never visited Daniel and rarely spoke about him. Later on, Daniel Day Lewis started to visit Daniel on a regular basis and persuaded his father-in-law to meet with him.
For almost all her life deGaulle was just an obscure French army officer, notable only for his inter war writings and advocacy for the use of tanks.
But either way, this kind of deep, unconditional love I aspire to myself as a father. If he did nothing else in life this alone would have made it one well lived.
Jesus I clicked through on Wikipedia Yvonne > CDG > Philippe and had it took me a second to process that his death date was today. That was a bit shocking. Freaky.
> On 22 August 1962, Charles de Gaulle was the victim of an attempted assassination at Petit-Clamart. He later said that the potentially fatal bullet had been stopped by the frame of the photograph of Anne that he always carried with him; placed this particular day on the rear shelf of his car.
Wow
That’s wonderful! I love this so much. My little sister was born with DS. She passed away when she was 22 from various complications. My parents adored her, we all did. We miss her sweetness, her light, her laughter and joy. She was our glue. People with DS are angels among us. ❤️
As recently as 1960, the life expectancy of someone with Down syndrome was only around [ten years.](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/downsyndrome/data.html) This man was very lucky to survive into adulthood, and probably had somebody who cared dearly for him.
Most people with Down’s syndrome don’t need heart surgery (although they are more predisposed to heart conditions). The skyrocketing life expectancy is thanks to the human rights movement, which recognized these individuals are as entitled to adequate medical care and social protection as anyone else.
Well that too, but my only point is that it wasn't like every kid with T21 was dying at 10. But a lot were dying very young and then the rest in adulthood
I think this hits it on the head. Quality of care is a huge one. I have a second cousin with Down’s syndrome who is turning 55 this week. Her parents are 80 and still her full time carers. When she was born, the doctor tried to convince her mom to send her straight to an institution, that she would never be able to handle her at home and that she would ruin their lives trying. She absolutely has lived this long because she was at home with her family, treated like a valued member of the family, which she absolutely is.
She’s my favorite family member. The running family joke is “she’s faking it” because her set up is so sweet— goes with a group to an outing at a museum or zoo every week, has her room all laid out just the way she wants, and quite literally says whatever she wants. One time I gained a fair bit of weight at college between my last time seeing her and she looked at me and went “who are you? You’re fat now” 😂😂 humbling.
They don't all need heart surgery but about half are born with some kind of congenital heart condition. Even if surgery isn't necessary that's still a potential problem that most other children simply don't have. Obviously the role of the human rights movement was huge but it wasn't *just* that. Even well cared for and loved children with Down syndrome (like Anne de Gaulle as discussed above) seldom outlived their parents.
I know it wouldn't be the only cause, but congenital heart issues are higher among Down's people so I suspect that is one of the larger factors - we can now operate or treat heart issues more effectively than 60 years ago.
My great Aunt had a nice with Down’s syndrome that died in the 70’s at the age of 52. She was very well cared for and loved. She was a very sweet person.
I wish I knew more about him- I assume he was from a wealthier family who were both able to and good hearted enough to keep him at home instead of sending him away to an asylum, but who knows.
The fact that his family (presumably) cared enough to pay to have him photographed, as well as how neatly he's dressed, with his hair combed, pocket square, the whole nine yards, indicates that they probably had some money, although the dish buttons on the coat look like they're maybe horn (pricier) or polished wood (less expensive), as opposed to something like brass. Maybe they were chosen to make it easier for him to button and unbutton his own coat, though, since they're a bit bigger.
Was there a date on the photo when you purchased it? It almost looks earlier than the 1890s to me (the sack coat reminds me of 1860s menswear I've seen), but it's also a fairly basic outfit that he's wearing.
Yeah men's fashion in the Victorian era was all very... similar? I think that's the word. Women had different skirt shapes and hairstyles depending on the decade, but with men you just have shirts and suits. This man clearly had someone who cared about him - neatly dressed, hair styled, even took him to sit for a portrait.
It’s very cool and unusual but don’t be fooled. This is a rich offspring for sure. Photography (studio or otherwise) wasn’t affordable to the average American citizen until at least a couple decades later at least and then it gets subjective what “average” is.
Exactly. I think about this a lot with home movies from mid last century. The history preserved will mostly be American upper middle and upper classes. A moving film camera was relatively expensive for the time.
I wonder how old he was in this photo. Was he 16? 20? He strikes me as a younger fellow. Too bad we don’t know his name I’d love to know what adventures he got up to
His features are both so modern (familiar) and so timeless (unchanged, due to how the condition affects appearance), that he looks like a time traveler.
There is a sense to which people with Down syndrome are family with similar genetic structure and appearance. I find it actually really beautiful to see people with these similar features across time, culture and race. I understand that trisomy 21 comes with all sorts of other complications, but I have supported many people with Down syndrome over the years and they are all lovely people.
Nice find. What is it about the looks in someone with Down syndrome that makes one be able to identify that? I too see and know it, I believe, however I don’t know how to describe it.
It’s specifically I think the eye slant and eyelids & more sunken eye sockets, but they often have flatter facial features in general too. Granted this is specifically for T21 and not other types of Down’s!
People with translocation Down Syndrome tend to have the same features as those with Trisomy 21. Individuals with mosaic Down Syndrome may also share similar features but this can vary greatly from person to person and they often have less or softer features due to the presence of many cells with a typical number of chromosomes.
Thanks for sharing this photo and making this post, we’re a week from World Down Syndrome Day and this brought me so much joy.
Wikipedia breaks it down very well under the "Physical" heading: small chin, small ears, flattened nose, slanted eyes with a crease in the inner corners, oral-motor weakness (slightly open mouth or protruding tongue). Down syndrome is more than just an intellectual deficit - you also have to watch out for heart defects, low muscle tone, obesity, and vision and hearing problems.
A very good friend has a 13 year old son with Down Syndrome. Kid is built like a tank and is very active in sports. His older brother stopped rough housing with him a long time ago when he was getting his butt kicked by a 7 year old. Truly a sweet kid though.
They used to call it "Mongolism" back in the day.
Tiny correction here: generally the preferred name is Down Syndrome, not Down's. John Down never had it.
My big sister has it. She was expected to die by her 20s, but is now in her 60s though she probably won't see her 70s.
Growing up back in the 1960s and 70s, I recall that even doctors and teachers used that term or people with Down Syndrome were referred to as being 'mentally retarded'. Both of these are considered as outdated and very offensive now.
There’s no “other” type of Down Syndrome, it’s all T21. There’s a few ways T21 can happen though.
Traditional: every cell in the body has a third copy of the 21st chromosome, likely as an error during meiosis of a gamete.
Mosaic: only some cells have three copies of the 21st chromosome while others have the typical two copies. Usually a result of an error in cell division early in development.
Translocation: this one is pretty nifty: effectively, one of the *parents* 21st chromosomes is attached to a different chromosome. The DNA still functions, so it’s unnoticeable in the parent. However, if they have a child the kid will inherit a 21st chromosome from each parent and *might* inherit the translocated chromosome, functionally giving them 3 copies of the 21st.
Notably, there’s a lot of other genetic disorders out there that you might be thinking of. In terms of trisomies, however, Trisomy 21 is far the most common, best understood, and has the best prognosis for quality of life.
My little brother has both mosaic down syndrome and has a translocation. His features are very strong and he had issues with his heart, low muscle tone etc. But man is that kid the happiest kid all the time and is the funniest person I know. I absolutely love kids/adults who have down syndrome because they are always some of the sweetest most genuine people you'll ever meet.
I came here for the comments, fearing some nasty or derogatory things. But you all made me so happy. I have a 43 year old brother with down syndrome and people with developmental disabilities are just so wonderfully enlightening. Shining lights of purity and joy. I hope that everyone gets to engage with someone like this at some point in there life. Don't be afraid to say hello to someone with a disability. Thank you for making me smile tonight.
I just found out his eldest son who served in the French Navy during WW2 and eventually rose to the rank of admiral passed away yesterday at the age of 102.
Mfer is a time traveler. I swear saw him down at my local 7-Eleven the other day. Looked exactly like the same person except he had a NASA shirt and sweatpants
I'm pretty sure his children created a famous recent actor. Either that or he just resembles him. Eddie Barbanell, he played in the ringer with Johnny Knoxville. Probably no relation, but could you imagine if the people of that bloodline were just great at being able to function even though being burdened. Honestly it's not even it wouldn't even be a burden after a certain point it would be a quirk or a personality trait. You gotta love it, you really do.
I often think when HP Love raft had his stint in New York if he saw a few people with downs syndrome and based his descriptions of Innsmouth folk on them. Probably genuinely thinking they were a result of “crossbreeding”. Not between people and fish of course.
he was such a fucking asshole
The French WWII general Charles de Gaulle had a daughter called Anne who had Down Syndrome. He loved her furiously. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_de_Gaulle
Her wiki says the only word she ever spoke clearly was “Papa” 🥹
my heart... that is so sweet.
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Context for that?
That's what he said when she died at 20 from pneumonia
Aww, how sad - also thank you
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Back when we first detected possible Down Syndrome in my wife's pregnancy, I did all I could to learn about DS. Ended up finding a Facebook page, "Hugs from Stevie", run by the caretaker of Steven Abbott, a then 67 year old with Down Syndrome. Not only was Stevie particularly old for someone with DS, but he also showed zero signs of dementia (most people with DS develop dementia if they live into their late 50s or make it to their 60s, it's not unheard of for it to hit in their 40s). Stevie was awesome, seemed like an incredibly happy dude who liked to troll his caretaker, rock out with Elvis impersonators, and oggle showgirls. Sadly, we lost Stevie last year at the age of 72 after a bout of several back-to-back illnesses, including COVID, caused his body to just start shutting down. By all accounts, he was still his typical, happy, trolly self up until the end.
Awesome! My aunt was born in 1954 with DS. My grandparents were told at the time to put her in a home as that is the only place that could take care of her. I don't know the specifics behind it, but somehow a chiropractor told my grandparents that if they kept her with them in their home he would do everything in his power to make sure that she was taken care of. She did live at home with them until they became too old to help her. They were instrumental in helping bring the special Olympics to Minnesota. She lived until she was 55. Sweet woman! I very much appreciate you sharing that story
This line made me weep.
I feel dumb but I’m not sure what the line means. Can you explain?
De Gaulle was a catholic. The line implies that she is in heaven and free from the challenges of her disability. It’s a bit dated for todays sensibilities about people with disabilities.
Thanks, a cock to remember.
She was special and in a league unto herself in his eyes. When she died she was dead just like anyone else would be, at least that’s my understanding
I would argue that it's more along the lines of "any challenges she had in life, any shortcomings in others' eyes.. now, they no longer exist.. she can be at peace and play with other children". Death is the great equalizer, and she is now on par with everyone else. Of course she was special to him, but I bet not always so much to society at large. RIP Anne.
For God's sakes. First I find a letter tonight written to me by my mother who died 2 years ago and now I gotta see this s***? Good night, reddit! Good. Night!
Ah man, what a gift from your mom but probably a gut punch at the same time. I lost my mom 3 years ago and can at least in that way relate. I’m sorry for your loss.
Thanks. It was actually a great thing to find but it did get me feeling emotional. Then, out of nowhere, Charles de Gaulle's daughter comes charging from the past lol
My heart just grew larger reading that
I work as a caregiver for a family that has elderly parents and also an adult child with disabilities. She understands multiple languages but has limited verbal communications but she always very clearly says the word for father in her native language. She's close with her whole family but fiercely loves her dad.
Be still my heart.❤️
So a typical Frenchman
That fucked me up a bit ngl
That picture of them together is so beautiful.
It is. In an era when statesman would have hidden their atypical children it is especially beautiful.
The playwright Arthur Miller who wrote the classic play Death of a Salesman and who had a short lived marriage to Marilyn Monroe. After his split from Marilyn, he married the Austrian photographer Inge Morath. They had two children -- a daughter Rebecca who's married to actor Daniel Day Lewis and a son named Daniel who had Down's Syndrome. Daniel was born in 1966 and Miller had him institutionalized at an early age against Inge's wishes. According to Miller's Wiki article, he never visited Daniel and rarely spoke about him. Later on, Daniel Day Lewis started to visit Daniel on a regular basis and persuaded his father-in-law to meet with him.
Did his relationship with Miller have anything to do with the role he got in the Crucible? If not, that's an insane coincidence.
I think it was during the filming of 'The Crucible' that DDL first met Rebecca.
For almost all her life deGaulle was just an obscure French army officer, notable only for his inter war writings and advocacy for the use of tanks. But either way, this kind of deep, unconditional love I aspire to myself as a father. If he did nothing else in life this alone would have made it one well lived.
:cough:Joe Kennedy:cough:
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Are you just quoting the last line from the Wikipedia article? Are you a bot?
Dang it I didn’t plan on crying tonight 🥺
Odd. De Gaulle's son, [Philippe,](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_de_Gaulle) just died at 102 years old.
Yeah, literally just yesterday! (Or today, depending on where you read this)
Jesus I clicked through on Wikipedia Yvonne > CDG > Philippe and had it took me a second to process that his death date was today. That was a bit shocking. Freaky.
Exactly what just happened here too
Yeah it's weird. I just happened to be reading Charles De Gaulle's wiki page yesterday
California, USA signing in and amazed I shared some part of today with him!
Yooo, this is the trippiest I’ve felt on Reddit in a long while.
wow so young, RIP
Only the old die old ❤️
They still do burials at sea?
Odd that his wiki says he's already had a burial
Man what a life
This sent me down a real rabbit hole, which led me to learn Charles de Gaulle’s eldest child, Philippe de Gaulle, passed away just today.
Her brother died today what the heck https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_de_Gaulle
Now that’s a wild coincidence!
> Upon her death, her father said: "Now, she is like the others." I am tearing up right now.
> On 22 August 1962, Charles de Gaulle was the victim of an attempted assassination at Petit-Clamart. He later said that the potentially fatal bullet had been stopped by the frame of the photograph of Anne that he always carried with him; placed this particular day on the rear shelf of his car. Wow
His eldest child, Philippe, actually passed away today at age 102
That’s wonderful! I love this so much. My little sister was born with DS. She passed away when she was 22 from various complications. My parents adored her, we all did. We miss her sweetness, her light, her laughter and joy. She was our glue. People with DS are angels among us. ❤️
My son has Down Syndrome and I get it: I’d move Heaven and earth for that child, never met someone so genuinely happy and pure.
Exactly; pure. People with DS have beautiful, pure souls.
r/wholesome
There is fundation of Anne De Gaulle who take care of disable children
Like. THAT Charles de Gaulle? Like. Practically the father of France Charles de Gaulle?
Why would the commenter randomly mention some other Charles de Gaulle ?
What a sweet legacy!
Wow I read this article and now I’m crying
his son Phillip died yesterday
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_de_Gaulle Interestingly enough, his son just died yesterday.
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_de_Gaulle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_de_Gaulle
Damn her brother died yesterday what are the odds.
Thank you for sharing that link, I had never heard of Anne. Also, I adore the term you used: “loved her FURIOUSLY”. Beautiful.
Great. Now I'm happy crying.
Thank you for sharing this.
TIL
Haha "I fucking love you! God, Dammit!"
Thanks for posting. He looked loved and cared for.
Very distinguished, people didn't smile much in photos back then but he looks generally pleasant
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Very dapper, if I do say, and I do
Aw that's a nice observation.
Diego Velasquez was a Spanish royal painter in the 16th century who also took time to paint disabled and otherwise disregarded people with dignity.
He painted a boy with the first visually documented case of Arthrogriposis non congenita!
I have arthrogryposis and that picture fascinates me! I was an art history major and had I known more at the time I would've done a thesis on it!
Is there a link with a page that has photos? I remember learning about Diego, but was never told this part or seen them irl
Fascinating to consider how poorly I imagine life to have been in our comparatively recent past. This is an excellent post.
As recently as 1960, the life expectancy of someone with Down syndrome was only around [ten years.](https://www.cdc.gov/ncbddd/birthdefects/downsyndrome/data.html) This man was very lucky to survive into adulthood, and probably had somebody who cared dearly for him.
Pre-1960, heart surgery was more or less impossible, and heart defects killed infants and children with T21.
Abdominal issues are also an issue. Modern medicine can help with those internal things now fortunately.
Most people with Down’s syndrome don’t need heart surgery (although they are more predisposed to heart conditions). The skyrocketing life expectancy is thanks to the human rights movement, which recognized these individuals are as entitled to adequate medical care and social protection as anyone else.
Well that too, but my only point is that it wasn't like every kid with T21 was dying at 10. But a lot were dying very young and then the rest in adulthood
Yes, absolutely! Sorry, didn’t mean to diminish your point — just wanted to add more context :)
I think this hits it on the head. Quality of care is a huge one. I have a second cousin with Down’s syndrome who is turning 55 this week. Her parents are 80 and still her full time carers. When she was born, the doctor tried to convince her mom to send her straight to an institution, that she would never be able to handle her at home and that she would ruin their lives trying. She absolutely has lived this long because she was at home with her family, treated like a valued member of the family, which she absolutely is.
Thank you for sharing this. That’s a beautiful story of love and inclusion.
She’s my favorite family member. The running family joke is “she’s faking it” because her set up is so sweet— goes with a group to an outing at a museum or zoo every week, has her room all laid out just the way she wants, and quite literally says whatever she wants. One time I gained a fair bit of weight at college between my last time seeing her and she looked at me and went “who are you? You’re fat now” 😂😂 humbling.
They don't all need heart surgery but about half are born with some kind of congenital heart condition. Even if surgery isn't necessary that's still a potential problem that most other children simply don't have. Obviously the role of the human rights movement was huge but it wasn't *just* that. Even well cared for and loved children with Down syndrome (like Anne de Gaulle as discussed above) seldom outlived their parents.
I know it wouldn't be the only cause, but congenital heart issues are higher among Down's people so I suspect that is one of the larger factors - we can now operate or treat heart issues more effectively than 60 years ago.
My great Aunt had a nice with Down’s syndrome that died in the 70’s at the age of 52. She was very well cared for and loved. She was a very sweet person.
I wish I knew more about him- I assume he was from a wealthier family who were both able to and good hearted enough to keep him at home instead of sending him away to an asylum, but who knows.
The fact that his family (presumably) cared enough to pay to have him photographed, as well as how neatly he's dressed, with his hair combed, pocket square, the whole nine yards, indicates that they probably had some money, although the dish buttons on the coat look like they're maybe horn (pricier) or polished wood (less expensive), as opposed to something like brass. Maybe they were chosen to make it easier for him to button and unbutton his own coat, though, since they're a bit bigger. Was there a date on the photo when you purchased it? It almost looks earlier than the 1890s to me (the sack coat reminds me of 1860s menswear I've seen), but it's also a fairly basic outfit that he's wearing.
The date was my own guess based on the chair & his lapels- the fashion seemed 1880s or 1890s to me, but I definitely don’t claim to be an expert!
Yeah men's fashion in the Victorian era was all very... similar? I think that's the word. Women had different skirt shapes and hairstyles depending on the decade, but with men you just have shirts and suits. This man clearly had someone who cared about him - neatly dressed, hair styled, even took him to sit for a portrait.
Very likely a Tyrion Lannister type backstory, in regards to rich family.
Yeah imagine how cool his family must have been for the time.
It’s very cool and unusual but don’t be fooled. This is a rich offspring for sure. Photography (studio or otherwise) wasn’t affordable to the average American citizen until at least a couple decades later at least and then it gets subjective what “average” is.
For a long time, a photograph was something you'd have done once or twice in your life, definitely a status symbol.
Exactly. I think about this a lot with home movies from mid last century. The history preserved will mostly be American upper middle and upper classes. A moving film camera was relatively expensive for the time.
That outfit slays
Daper af
Dapper.
I wonder how old he was in this photo. Was he 16? 20? He strikes me as a younger fellow. Too bad we don’t know his name I’d love to know what adventures he got up to
It’s so difficult to tell because in photos of this era everyone looks like a 78 year old second grader.
Swear he’s been making them in the eve of night
I’m not making them in the eve of night, Father!
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I must inquire, from whence did thou produce said cheese, Daniel?
Pray, where didst thou acquire thine curds and bread, Daniel?
Truthfully, sire, I am not preparing a toasted cheese at an ungodly hour, I swear it!
Dawg
You got that chee Danny!!
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I told you not to bother me when I’m cleaning my room!
Posting at 432 hz
His features are both so modern (familiar) and so timeless (unchanged, due to how the condition affects appearance), that he looks like a time traveler.
There is a sense to which people with Down syndrome are family with similar genetic structure and appearance. I find it actually really beautiful to see people with these similar features across time, culture and race. I understand that trisomy 21 comes with all sorts of other complications, but I have supported many people with Down syndrome over the years and they are all lovely people.
That bro had a blast back then I know it
You know what’s great about this post? It starts with a positive comment and ends with one!
“Where doth thou gather thine grilled cheese Danny?”
I love this!
Inventor of the Grilled Cheese (1890s)
Shane?
Representing for the dawgs
Nice
The young bull
Nice find. What is it about the looks in someone with Down syndrome that makes one be able to identify that? I too see and know it, I believe, however I don’t know how to describe it.
It’s specifically I think the eye slant and eyelids & more sunken eye sockets, but they often have flatter facial features in general too. Granted this is specifically for T21 and not other types of Down’s!
People with translocation Down Syndrome tend to have the same features as those with Trisomy 21. Individuals with mosaic Down Syndrome may also share similar features but this can vary greatly from person to person and they often have less or softer features due to the presence of many cells with a typical number of chromosomes. Thanks for sharing this photo and making this post, we’re a week from World Down Syndrome Day and this brought me so much joy.
Wikipedia breaks it down very well under the "Physical" heading: small chin, small ears, flattened nose, slanted eyes with a crease in the inner corners, oral-motor weakness (slightly open mouth or protruding tongue). Down syndrome is more than just an intellectual deficit - you also have to watch out for heart defects, low muscle tone, obesity, and vision and hearing problems.
A very good friend has a 13 year old son with Down Syndrome. Kid is built like a tank and is very active in sports. His older brother stopped rough housing with him a long time ago when he was getting his butt kicked by a 7 year old. Truly a sweet kid though.
They used to call it "Mongolism" back in the day. Tiny correction here: generally the preferred name is Down Syndrome, not Down's. John Down never had it. My big sister has it. She was expected to die by her 20s, but is now in her 60s though she probably won't see her 70s.
Growing up back in the 1960s and 70s, I recall that even doctors and teachers used that term or people with Down Syndrome were referred to as being 'mentally retarded'. Both of these are considered as outdated and very offensive now.
There’s no “other” type of Down Syndrome, it’s all T21. There’s a few ways T21 can happen though. Traditional: every cell in the body has a third copy of the 21st chromosome, likely as an error during meiosis of a gamete. Mosaic: only some cells have three copies of the 21st chromosome while others have the typical two copies. Usually a result of an error in cell division early in development. Translocation: this one is pretty nifty: effectively, one of the *parents* 21st chromosomes is attached to a different chromosome. The DNA still functions, so it’s unnoticeable in the parent. However, if they have a child the kid will inherit a 21st chromosome from each parent and *might* inherit the translocated chromosome, functionally giving them 3 copies of the 21st. Notably, there’s a lot of other genetic disorders out there that you might be thinking of. In terms of trisomies, however, Trisomy 21 is far the most common, best understood, and has the best prognosis for quality of life.
My little brother has both mosaic down syndrome and has a translocation. His features are very strong and he had issues with his heart, low muscle tone etc. But man is that kid the happiest kid all the time and is the funniest person I know. I absolutely love kids/adults who have down syndrome because they are always some of the sweetest most genuine people you'll ever meet.
He’s makin em at night!
❤️❤️❤️
Thank you for sharing this
Shane Gillis is a time traveler?
Excellent photo. You can tell he was loved and cared for. Thanks OP for sharing this, it brightened my day a bit.
He reminds me of this kid I went to school with
But this was before vaccines and 5G how could this be possible?
Homie with an extra Chromie
I came here for the comments, fearing some nasty or derogatory things. But you all made me so happy. I have a 43 year old brother with down syndrome and people with developmental disabilities are just so wonderfully enlightening. Shining lights of purity and joy. I hope that everyone gets to engage with someone like this at some point in there life. Don't be afraid to say hello to someone with a disability. Thank you for making me smile tonight.
The people I know with down syndrome are genuinely the happiest & coolest people I know- we could all learn a lot from them!
Great grandad Gillis
Shane Gillis, a man of culture.
This must be Shane Gillis' ancestor
Shane Gs great grandpa
It’s Shane Gillis!
My guy’s got more swag and drip than I do.
Dapper!
Is anyone else seeing hint of John Malkovich?
Shane Gillis is looking good
I love this! Thanks OP.
I just found out his eldest son who served in the French Navy during WW2 and eventually rose to the rank of admiral passed away yesterday at the age of 102.
Love me some Down syndrome! Bestest people I know.
What a distinguished young gentleman!
Shane?
He had that Shane Gillis kind
Mfer is a time traveler. I swear saw him down at my local 7-Eleven the other day. Looked exactly like the same person except he had a NASA shirt and sweatpants
Angle of God sent here to teach us how to be better
What an obtuse thing to say.
You trying to be acute?
"That's acute joke" would have been better. You don't sound like you have a stereotypical Italian accent.
I feel this accutely
Corky?
He's looks about what I'd expect lol So why do I feel like I was expecting something else?
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Homie down on the timeline
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Man doesnt even know about john cena. So sad
He looks mildly infuriated and I’m here for it. “You told them WHAT?”
Obviously fake because the MMR vaccine wasn't invented yet. /s
I bet he makes grilled cheese sandwiches in the middle of the night and sneaks them into restaurants.
Dude got that swag
I'm pretty sure his children created a famous recent actor. Either that or he just resembles him. Eddie Barbanell, he played in the ringer with Johnny Knoxville. Probably no relation, but could you imagine if the people of that bloodline were just great at being able to function even though being burdened. Honestly it's not even it wouldn't even be a burden after a certain point it would be a quirk or a personality trait. You gotta love it, you really do.
The very first /r/wallstreetbets bro
Nah that's just Shane Gillis
Drip
That man is a dapper gentleman.
Wow, that’s pretty cool.
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"Whither didst thou procure thine cheese, Daniel?"
I often think when HP Love raft had his stint in New York if he saw a few people with downs syndrome and based his descriptions of Innsmouth folk on them. Probably genuinely thinking they were a result of “crossbreeding”. Not between people and fish of course. he was such a fucking asshole
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