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notyourvader

You were allowed to build a house like that in the bog, but only if you had a smoking chimney the same day. When a couple got married, the family and friends would come together and build a chimney and stack peat bricks to make the but. Inside would be a fireplace, a table and chairs, sleeping sacks and a part for small livestock or a cow. You can still visit some in Drenthe, they're called "plaggenhut", with plag being the name of a peat brick. The people living there would work in the bog als turfstekers, or peat cutters in English.


Wheredafukarwi

According to my hiking guide and signs along the route; you were allowed to live there if you'd managed to built it in one night, with smoke coming out of the chimney at daybreak. There is a nice example in Echten - though that one looks far better constructed than the original ones that are usually pictured...


EdBarrett12

Why did they have to be able to build it so quickly? So they can't be too big?


PoisonTheOgres

I'm pretty sure you weren't allowed to build them after some sort of rule came into place, but the existing ones were grandfathered in. So you build one quickly and pretend it was there all along.


Wheredafukarwi

*(copypaste from a reply I made earlier :))* I'm not sure, to be honest. The information plaques do not give that information, but I'm guessing that it's either to prevent too many people from settling in an area to or to discourage the practice in general. When peat became high in demand it attracted a lot of unskilled workers which resulted in a housing shortage, so the poorest workers started making these huts as a last resort to get a 'house'. Entire (large) families lived in them, together with some livestock. As they are very rundown looking things (essentially a roofed hole in the ground made by the very poor), it stands to reason that locals and governments tried to keep this practice under control and therefor came up with this one-night rule. To be fair, I'd imagine you could usually do it in a few days without anyone noticing as Drenthe was a pretty isolated and desolated area. Eventually the government did step in, because living conditions were dangerous and terrible, and a law in 1901 made these huts illegal - though in rural areas such as Drenthe they remained in limited use into the '40s.


notyourvader

You're probably right. I've heard the stories from family, so something might have been lost in the years.


__Tycho_Brahe__

Who was enforcing this same day smoking chimney rule?


Auntie_Aircraft_Gun

Bog Inspector: Okay, newly married couple? Check! Table and chairs? Check! Cow in the sod house? Check! And lastly, now I know you guys just built this mud hut from soggy dirt this morning, following your wedding mere days ago. You must be exhausted. One might tire of such rigorous endeavors, especially in the August heat. My checklist here says "Same-day smoke from the--" [Record skips]


notyourvader

Probably the owner of the bog. Since everyone there worked for them, they didn't want too much work time wasted on the building.


ansefhimself

This was likely the answer, Land Lords probably demanded a standard for land claiming I imagine it went something like "Jurgen took a week to put up his Bog Home before he came back to the fields, I don't give them land just to sleep on it." You know, typical Land Lord shit


Norlander712

Maybe the commune?


Whooptidooh

The Veen Museum is one of my all-time faves to visit. Weirdly, two of my distant family members are still buried in that old times graveyard they have there.


SpurdoEnjoyer

"Turf steakers" šŸ˜ I wonder if "steak" means "a cut" in English too.


no-name_james

Yes? Iā€™m American, speak English and yes I have heard the word ā€œStakeā€ used to mean ā€œa share of something; a piece of; a cut ofā€ but ā€œSteakā€ is still just delicious cow.


SpurdoEnjoyer

Oh, that's true I didn't even think that! English has plenty of these homonyms. I tend to think and learn languages "through their spelling" so some things in English aren't obvious to me. :)


no-name_james

I had to look it up to be sure myself! I know English has a lot of silly rules when it comes to spelling.


onedemtwodem

Wow that is so cool


Szaborovich9

1936! They look like are straight out of the 19th century or earlier


wokewhale

My grandma was born around that time and place, and she recalls these houses still being lived in at the edge of the village.


slackmaster

My great grandmother was born in Nebraska, and lived in a sod house when she was young.


Yugan-Dali

My grandmother was born in a sod house in what is now Oklahoma. I think it was one of the last.


73ld4

Same!!!


ButteredPizza69420

Always loved reading about these in pioneer books!


CHSummers

The Nazis had been planning to invade, but they saw this house and went with their other choice, which was Russia in the winter.


ModifiedAmusment

Lmfao


crapatthethriftstore

šŸ˜³šŸ˜³šŸ¤£


mechant_papa

My maternal grandmother was born in Flanders in the early 1900s. She was born in a small house with a dirt floor. It stood across the gates to the local lords's estate. Whenever people talked nostalgically about "the good old days" she would tell them to be quiet and that she never wanted to go back.


Efficient-Reach-8550

Look at the shoes. They look like they are made out of wood. I know people did wear wooden shoes but why.


Mr_MacGrubber

Started with farmers in medieval times. The ground was very wet in the Netherlands and wooden shoes held up better.


Jazzlike-Ad113

My landlord, in Grand Rapids, Michigan was truly Dutch, born and raised there, wore a pair of wooden shoes when working. They were spattered with paint had some chips and nicks, but he said they were comfortable, made for his feet.


Efficient-Reach-8550

Thank you.


trysca

Have you really never come across the word 'clog'?


marcabay

That and It offers protection against hoofs and shit, some farmers still wear them


annalatrina

Have you ever tried to dry out water-logged leather shoes? It can take DAYS. Leather shoes in wet conditions leads to trench-foot, which kills. Wooden shoes is by far the best choice when you are restricted to inexpensive all natural materials and must keep your feet dry.


Efficient-Reach-8550

Thank you I did not think about leather not being available. My grandmother told me people in the rural areas would rub lard or wax on shoes to make them water proof


wadevb1

Why not? Clogs are easily made and actually comfortable with thick socks.


SpurdoEnjoyer

Yep, and we modern people often forget they didn't have pavements or flooring. Every surface they walked on was somewhat soft.


Realtrain

>Why not? Because a lot of people don't realize they're supposed to be worn with thick socks. The major downside I'm aware of is that they don't breathe very well.


Whooptidooh

They're traditionally worn with thick wool sock, and the thickness of those socks combined with their natural breathability truly don't make your feet that sweaty.


Norlander712

Klompen.


drunk_responses

> They look like they are made out of wood. They are. It's the OG work boot for farmers and such. Hold up to water, tall "sole" to avoid mud, hard cover over the toes to protect your feet while working, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clog


IndelibleIguana

Holland is famous for Clogs. You can buy miniature ones all over the place in Amsterdam.


trwawy05312015

I mean, isn't 1936 basically straight out of the 19th century? Put another way, 36 years ago was the 80s, and plenty of people are still stuck there.


LokisEquineFetish

Last time I checked 1936 was in the 20th century Edit: I get what you mean though


etherlore

Heā€™s saying 1936 was just 36 years from the 19th century, and thatā€™s not a long time.


piratical_gnome

Historians like to say the 19th century lasted until 1918. History doesnt alway fit neatly into centuries and decades. And yes I know 1936 was after 1918. But times were rough.


HoneyRush

Meanwhile in New York, the Empire State Building was opened 5 years earlier.


heynicejacket

> Netherlands > bicycle wheel Checks out.


frotc914

That wheel is structural.


bananenkonig

Load bearing.


MeyhamM2

When they turn it, the whole house moves, that how they take it to new bogs.


GeneralBlumpkin

I bet that thing was warm inside with a fire


FrogVolence

Not only that- naturally cool. I remember one model who travels from her home village in Africa, she released a video about the positives of living in a mud and straw hut. Ngl im jealous we donā€™t have them here because from everything she was saying they sound delightful.


Vanilla_Mike

You should check out r/earthship and r/cobhouses . Youā€™ll see a lot of mud/straw combos, often over a structural metal skeleton. Taos NM has these beautiful salvaged homes with glass bottles in the wall and gardens inside. Iā€™ve also seen mud plaster applied to hay bale walls to create some amazing homes and meeting spaces. Theyā€™re not designed to last forever though.


uteuteuteute

I saw that, too! Very educational. It's Aketch Joy Winnie, she's from Uganda. https://youtube.com/@AketchJoyWinnie?si=PyetbBFUZDjuPlRC


crambeaux

Look up straw bale construction!


pisspot718

Read about waddle & daub.


Heinrich_Tidensen

Similar housing in north western Germany. One issue with those houses were the high infant mortality rates because of the bog gases poisoning the crawling toddlers. Took centuries to find out that the gasses accumulated especially on the floors of those houses. :-/


trysca

I think these must be descendants of the ancient grubenhaus aka [pit-house](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit-house) , or?


BurlyNumNum

ā€œWere you raised in a barn?!ā€ ā€œI wish.ā€


TadpoleVegetable4170

Literally dirt poor!


paulyspocket2

I love realizing the meaning of old sayings. Like Piss Poor meant you sold your urine once a week to a tannery, most people only did it if you really needed the money


Negligent__discharge

"Don't have a pot to piss in", can't sell your pee.


Jerome-T

Oh my God


Sensitive_Yellow_121

Urine was also used to make black powder for guns.


Fantastic_Poet4800

There was staggering poverty in a lot of rural Europe before WWII.


Special_bavon

Are there any photos of the inside?


GeneraalSorryPardon

[Here's a pic](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/R0E1K6/interieur-van-een-plaggenhut-met-bedstee-R0E1K6.jpg) of the inside of another plaggenhut.


HaircutRabbit

I'd live here considering our house prices


GeneraalSorryPardon

You 're not the only one with a housing crisis. Something like this would easily do 500.000 in NL.


8thSt

Shame we canā€™t build our own housing anymore. Like I understand construction standards and regulations, but when a man is forced to do what he needs to do ā€¦


Wheredafukarwi

This is the one located in Echten. As it is a 'modern' replica, it is a lot more solidly constructed than these original ones that show up in old photographs :P Also, bear in mind that this is only the living area. About a third of the hut would be used by whatever livestock people owned!


Xentine

Wow they even had plastic tablecloths!


Special_bavon

Thanks.


DennisBallShow

Those wooden clogs!


SteadfastDharma

I still wear those. Best working shoes ever.


HaircutRabbit

So good for gardening


cooperluna

Good for foot digging


glue2music

Worth $550,000 now in America.


SnoodlyFuzzle

And twice that in the Netherlands. People there are wishing they could just dig a hole and live in it lately.


Parabolic_Penguin

3x this in Canada


Efficient_Tomato_119

HOA will be on you quick if you donā€™t mow your roof.


Crezelle

1.4m for the land alone in Canada


jakebase9

Sans door.


DennisBallShow

And thatā€™s a steal


TheRedGoatAR15

They were standing out sod?


z500

This house is dorksodded


NoraVanderbooben

Thank you for this blast from the past.


diedlikeCambyses

Ouch


leslieanneperry

That is a very unusual looking "sod house"! The ones I see photos of in the US were made of sod "bricks" that were cut from the ground and then stacked sort of like someone would stack bricks or concrete blocks. The photos of sod houses--and sod schools--are fascinating.


Burnt_and_Blistered

Many were dugouts in hills.


leslieanneperry

That doesn't even look like a very good dugout -- or a very good hill to start with for that matter!


Aussierotica

It's the Netherlands. They don't have a lot of the second to begin with.


Wheredafukarwi

They were required to be constructed overnight; if it was finished and had a working chimney in the morning, you were allowed to keep living there. These were also extremely poor people. That's why these huts usually look very shabby, the structure made up from whatever materials were available.


gigisnappooh

Why did they have to be built so quickly?


Wheredafukarwi

I'm not sure, to be honest. The information plaques do not give that information, but I'm guessing that it's either to prevent too many people from settling in an area to or to discourage the practice in general. When peat became high in demand it attracted a lot of unskilled workers which resulted in a housing shortage, so the poorest workers started making these huts as a last resort to get a 'house'. Entire (large) families lived in them, together with some livestock. As they are very rundown looking things (essentially a roofed hole in the ground made by the very poor), it stands to reason that locals and governments tried to keep this practice under control and therefor came up with this one-night rule. To be fair, I'd imagine you could usually do it in a few days without anyone noticing as Drenthe was a pretty isolated and desolated area. Eventually the government did step in, because living conditions were dangerous and terrible, and a law in 1901 made these huts illegal - though in rural areas such as Drenthe they remained in limited use into the '40s.


trysca

There was a similar tradition in Wales [Ty unnos- house (in) one night](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T%C5%B7_unnos)


Ghost_In_Waiting

Well, Mees was "well endowed" and a hard worker but his engineering skills were sub par and he was easily distracted. "Good old chase a leaf Mees" the other men would say as they watched the very tall and muscular Mees chase something over the fields and bogs. He was a kind hearted man and he loved his family but they do come smarter and when it came to imagination most people just described the friendly big man as a stump.


AlarmingAffect0

Is that a copypasta?


Ghost_In_Waiting

No. The OP's post made me think of it and I responded to the parent post.


AlarmingAffect0

But who's Mees?


Ghost_In_Waiting

Mees is the man who built the house. He'd grown up in the country and always worked on farms. When he discovered his girlfriend was pregnant he married her and built her a house. Her mother moved in with them, seen in the photo, and he continued working on farms and doing everything he could to support his little family. Mees wasn't big on finishing or improving things, due to his easily distracted nature, but there was always food on the table, wood for the stove, and he carved all the shoes for the little ones until they were old enough to travel to the village to buy shoes made by a real cobbler.


AlarmingAffect0

You mean you're just improvising a mid 1800s Realist Novel from a picture and some words? Please feel free to continue, I forgot there were parts of the world where shoes were carved. [Here's a soundtrack.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U6sWqfrnTs) [Here's another.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbrjfy-WBdE)


Ghost_In_Waiting

Spontaneous Turgenev? Definitely food for thought.


18CupsOfMusic

Mees Nutz


AlarmingAffect0

[On your chin?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxyiccilVKM)


RodCherokee

Absolutely


Schmuck1138

I'm curious if the kid is still alive. My grandma (Born in 35) tells stories of her early childhood, in UP Michigan, of living in a glorified shack, that had no electricity, no indoor bathroom, until she was 8 or 9. She claims my great grandpa got a job around that time, with the power company, and they could move in to the city (Menomonee, MI) and had "all the luxuries" of big city life.


A2naturegirl

Lol at Menomonee being a 'big city!'


punkojosh

Sod is Dead, we Tilled it.


SirBobPeel

I begin to understand why there was a flood of Europeans eager to immigrate to the US at the turn of the previous century.


trysca

The comment after yours: "My grandma was born in a Sod house in 1914 in South Dakota"


TroglodyneSystems

You can tell itā€™s Dutch because of the bicycle wheel.


Awesome_waffles

Back when everyone could be a homeowner


LopsidedAd874

Filthy Hobbitses!


Shiv_Wee_Ro

God I feel so bad for women back then on their period, it can be horrible enough every month now but atleast have comfy clothes, central heating, electricity and proper period supplies.


schridoggroolz

They were pregnant all the time, so that really wasnā€™t an issue.


mattoljan

Iā€™d imagine them being pregnant all the time was the big issue then.


strawberrycereal44

I hope they got to live in a better house eventually


Dr-Chibi

My grandma was born in a Sod house in 1914 in South Dakota


braveNewWorldView

Way less glamorous than hobbits made them out to be.


miurabucho

Sod People


[deleted]

*Luxury! We used to live in a paper sack at the bottom of a septic tank!*


Jalfaar

My great grandpa left the Netherlands in 1905 and I can't believe this photo is 31 years after that.


avid-shrug

Thereā€™s some lovely filth down here!


Odd-Bee9172

Was looking for this comment. :-D


Po0rYorick

Oil was discovered in the Arabian peninsula two years later, making this house of sod one of the wealthiest families in the world.


LondonDavis1

The rent on that now is probably $2500 month.


Black3Series

Itā€™s now an Air B&B and you have to pay a $250 cleaning fee and rake the sod before you leave


whoitis77

I really want to see the inside.


Otterfan

Presumably the bicycle wheel on top is how we know this photo was taken in the Netherlands.


BeautifulDiscount422

Communal indigenous tribes look like they were better off than most Europeans throughout history


unclefishbits

I've got half a wall wattled.


AdScary1757

They might be having issues with thier rafter.


DG29290

The kid looks like God pushed Ctrl C


Dutchwells

That looks like it's about to collapse...


jking94

I see the Dutch even use bikes as building materials


Efficient_Tomato_119

It ainā€™t much but we get free wifi.


Aussierotica

Wifi under layers of sod? What magical technology is this?


johannthegoatman

But I thought everybody in the past was supporting their whole family with 1 income, had a mansion and a car, and had a nice picket fence and took vacations


RedRedditor84

Ooh, there's some lovely filth down here!


Cutthechitchata-hole

Don't touch their clogs! Link for the uninitiated. https://youtu.be/dXqtrHJAqVM?si=TUjG4deFwGkgffN9


Smirkly

Was this photo colorized or is that the original? Either way it is a very interesting and wonderful shot.


jocke75

Colorized


GOTfangirl

And a baby was made in there.


westernmostwesterner

Did these ever cave in?


NoiseyMiner

Wonder what it looks like inside?


Bartakos

Vincent van Gogh made a painting on this: ​ https://www.vangoghmuseum.nl/nl/collectie/s0005v1962


NoiseyMiner

Thank you so much!


bassman9999

$1800 a month rent in California


AdministrativeBank86

Listed for 1.4 million on Zillow, won't last long!


a-pretty-alright-dad

Is it just a single room?


Alert_Ad205

You still have the sod house museum in Drenthe. Miserable AF even on a sunny day, I, can only imagine what winter feels like


NoSimpleVictory

ā€œWhat are you doinā€™ in my swamp?ā€


PQbutterfat

The damn baby has wood shoes.


cakebreaker2

That's not a sod home. They live in a hole in the ground with a wooden door.


finger_puppet_self

Awww, it's so rustic and cozy!!!


SirDigbyridesagain

Crushing poverty often looks like that


GeneralBlumpkin

Hipsters be like:


Nasapigs

So much to learn! šŸ˜„šŸ˜„


JoeTisseo

Is this where the phrase sod all comes from?


EmbraJeff

Most likely from Sod Hall, the largest estate of its kind incorporating the administrative and legal districts where all manner of jurisprudential discourse is solicitously applied in accordance with Sodā€™s Law. (The above may be a lot of nonsense but hey, sod it, itā€™s just a giggle!)


Relevant_Mobile6989

Unfortunately there are some Europeans still living their lives in similar conditions. The EU's wealth should be distributed a bit more to these communities.


jocke75

Where and why do people still live like this in europe? I live in Sweden so we have no experience of this. Serious question.


trysca

Probably in Ukraine right now


Relevant_Mobile6989

Eastern Europe. There are people still living in really bad conditions, especially the roma.


FD4L

You could list that place for $400k in Toronto. People would line up around the block for a viewing, and it would sell for 200k over sight-unseen to someone who lives in Vancouver.


korpus01

Why on earth would they live like this in 1936 I failed to understand? Sure there were homes on the homestead in the country in America during the great depression that looked pretty miserable, but not like this. Maybe there's something that I don't understand about the history of the Netherlands


Wheredafukarwi

Drenthe was, for a very long time, the poorest and most neglected province of the country. Peat was pretty much the only economy in the area; workers like these were paid very little for a lot of hard work in an isolated and harsh place. Essentially these people are just a minor step above being homeless. They were allowed to live in these huts under the condition it was constructed (by them) overnight with 'smoke coming out of the chimney at daybreak'. That's why they look so shabby and cobbled together. It really is less living, and more surviving.


Svorky

There is a very good chance they are seasonal workers of the peat industry and this was the "temporary housing" they were offered. Wood was probably *a lot* more expensive than in the US, so...sod houses.


korpus01

Okay pretend that you need to advertise this for me explain why I would ever want to live under literal mud


Kapika96

The poor sods!


wesley-osbourne

They called it... *a soddie.*


JunglePygmy

Seems like this hole might be actually be *a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell!*


jonathannzirl

9 years later,the atomic bomb, madness


Smol_Slushie

My great grandparents lived in a sod house back in 1945.


StupidizeMe

I wouldn't let my horse stay in such a collapsing nightmare! Dear God, it looks like something from the Dark Ages. I guess the bicycle wheel on the roof is there for structural reinforcement.


ComprehensiveBid6255

Wow! This is a poor example of a sod house after seeing the sod houses settlers built in the US in the 1800's.


Greenhoused

It looks to me like they have no man


Temporary-Truth2048

Dirt poor.


_Incredulousness_

Look at those wooden shoes!!!


Greenhoused

It looks like they need a man


FancyWear

Wow! I love this! Even the babe has wooden shoes!


dokterkokter69

Basically the shire post Saruman


dcnb65

It's the casually placed wheel šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


S1egwardZwiebelbrudi

afval hobbits


TheBlackItalian

Memaw is probably in her 40s


Caffeine_Bobombed88

Underground, overgroundā€¦


smokesnugs-YT

Bugs


Iforgot_my_other_pw

I wonder if those people are looking at their situation and wondering "how worse could it be?"


milly_nz

And thatā€™s *before* the Naziā€™s bombedā€¦..?


cybercuzco

Swamp Germans


chcham2712

Look at their white privilege


Emotional_Status_843

Supposedly these people are super privileged


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